Now, the real first shots have been fired..

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If you do not have a sword , sell your cloak and buy one. Better to buy several. Only blades do not cut it any more. So advance on up to a few guns. Your future survival may very well depend on actions you choose to take now. The attack upon our Republic are soon going to get hard and heavy and the giving up of freedoms for supposed security will reap its harvest soon.! Obama just got given free reign to finish the job that he started folks.

I suggest extreme caution and a well stocked arsenal. Its better than being totally defenseless and completely at the mercy of the coming destuctive obama storm! First they destroyed the education system as they were taking over the free press and now its harvest time.. That this damn traitor got 8 years clearly says its about over for our nation. He is there to make damn sure it happens and we that knew it were powerless to convince the lazy, ignorant and supposed "enlightened" that selling your freedoms was not the path to take!!--Tyr

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, ... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it.
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Our Founders warned us that all republics have eventually fallen into tyranny -- the only difference being the relative timeline of each republic's descent. ... From the summer of 1787 when our Framers deliberated over their magnificent Constitution, we have recognized that the clear statement and equal application of the Law is among the most critical duties of any government. If we allow ourselves to lose this, we may as well be back in ancient Rome, subject to the whim of every petty tyrant in the taxing bureau or the zoning board. For it doesn't matter whether the regulator's foot is shod in a jack boot or a Roman sandal; if he can hold you down with that boot upon your neck, then we are no longer in the America that our Founding Fathers intended for us.
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The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom.
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The Constitution is not neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of people.
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[fj1200]

Oh geez.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Oh geez.

That one as blind as you fails to see means nothing. The majority of suckers never see what hit them until well after the scammers have fleeced them and are long gone. America has bought onto a well engineered scam and soon when its too late the costs will hit so hard that it becomes known to even many of the fools that cheered and begged for it!-Tyr

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I am certain that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice.
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[fj1200]

That one as blind as you fails to see means nothing.

Just seeing if you had put me back in ignore yet. But I didn't mean to get in the middle of another go nowhere rant that will end up alienating 90% of the people who might have agreed with you. :thumb:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Just seeing if you had put me back in ignore yet. But I didn't mean to get in the middle of another go nowhere rant that will end up alienating 90% of the people who might have agreed with you. :thumb:

What do I care why people reject the truth? It is enough that they chose to do so. I care not to hear the reasons for they are always the same -- selfish greed, lust for power, failure to fight for right and embracing of dishonor for temporary gain of safety ! The historic examples of this are many. Man's greatest folly is his failure to learn from history. We that truly learn from it know that dying to safeguard our children's future is the highest honor and a duty no true man will shirk. This will not end well and obama is the start of the end. His entire purpose for being is to destroy that which he hates--thats our culture and our nation. May his worthless ass rot in hell. I speak truth, others opinions of my words are not my concern.
They accept or reject does not matter. Only my decision to never yield matters now...-Tyr

[gabosaurus]

Just seeing if you had put me back in ignore yet. But I didn't mean to get in the middle of another go nowhere rant that will end up alienating 90% of the people who might have agreed with you. :thumb:

No one with any sense agrees with tyr. :p

[jafar00]

"Lorks a lordy, my bottom's on fire! - Joan of Arc

When's the revolution starting Tyr? You realise of course, those troops, secret agents and police guarding the Whitehouse and other govt buildings are also heavily armed so take care.

Oh, and speaking of "giving up of freedoms for supposed security", that started with G W Bush and his "Patriot Act" and the general battening down of hatches in the name of the "War on Terror". Obama is just continuing what Bush began.

Speaking of the war on terror. Your post in the OP could be construed as a terrorist threat against the President. Careful what you say.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

"Lorks a lordy, my bottom's on fire! - Joan of Arc

When's the revolution starting Tyr? You realise of course, those troops, secret agents and police guarding the Whitehouse and other govt buildings are also heavily armed so take care.

Oh, and speaking of "giving up of freedoms for supposed security", that started with G W Bush and his "Patriot Act" and the general battening down of hatches in the name of the "War on Terror". Obama is just continuing what Bush began.

Speaking of the war on terror. Your post in the OP could be construed as a terrorist threat against the President. Careful what you say.


Dont give me advice about how I post . I do not give a damn how they choose to construe my post as no threat was made upon the person of the president. I gave advice to people on how to defend themselves against the coming storm. Had I chosen to do as you want to make believe I wouldnt post a damn word about it here or anywhere else.
You defend obama because you know damn well he is your boy. A "muslim in hiding" pushing the globalist agenda to destroy America.... -Tyr

[fj1200]

What do I care why people reject the truth? ... Only my decision to never yield matters now...

:rolleyes: Do you want to be seen as a loon or do you want to convince people to side with you?

[mundame]

It is interesting how much desire for violence is expressed on political forums these days. I've seen it elsewhere, too, including pretty explicit threats against politicians. Apparently it's accepted these days!

That's a change.

Don't know what it means, but I'm guessing it is another step down the road to dissolution.

[tailfins]

No one with any sense agrees with tyr. :p

You're making the opposite error. Why not just evaluate the statements irrespective of who made them? Evaluate doesn't always mean checking veracity, it also involves relevance. Your post above is lazy.

[gabosaurus]

:rolleyes: Do you want to be seen as a loon or do you want to convince people to side with you?

I see him as a loon who other loons side with.

[tailfins]

I see him as a loon who other loons side with.

Give the guy a break. He thinks he has a future marked by unthinkable poverty. I don't agree with his methods, but I appreciate the sentiment. As a result of this election, I'm staying mobile. There will probably be a pocket of prosperity somewhere; it's a good idea to be prepared to go to that place when it reveals itself during bad times. Make no mistake, things are going to get worse. Cubans (both on and off the island) have the best street smarts when it comes to being ruled by a dictator. People that want free stuff are the gasoline that propels the current dictator in the White House, just like the ones in Caracas and Havana.

In Havana, I have seen people willing to have their neighbor unjustly beaten and imprisoned for a sack of rice and some bath soap (free stuff).

[jafar00]

Dont give me advice about how I post . I do not give a damn how they choose to construe my post as no threat was made upon the person of the president. I gave advice to people on how to defend themselves against the coming storm. Had I chosen to do as you want to make believe I wouldnt post a damn word about it here or anywhere else.
You defend obama because you know damn well he is your boy. A "muslim in hiding" pushing the globalist agenda to destroy America.... -Tyr

I dunno but going on about arming yourself and ranting about how Obama is a traitor seems a little extremist to this Muslim. :laugh:

[avatar4321]

What shots are you talking about?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I dunno but going on about arming yourself and ranting about how Obama is a traitor seems a little extremist to this Muslim. :laugh:

A MUSLIM TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE BEING EXTREME..-:laugh::laugh::laugh:--Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I see him as a loon who other loons side with.

You a pisspoor excuse for a human see me as a loon. :laugh2:
I'd be worried if you didnt because you are cracked like all your liberal friends.
Its scum like you that have helped destroy this nation..
Just remember if the worm turns you may not like what comes about.:laugh:--Tyr

[jafar00]

A MUSLIM TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE BEING EXTREME..-:laugh::laugh::laugh:--Tyr

There must be something in it then eh? :poke:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

There must be something in it then eh? :poke:

Sure is, we patriots see the enemy and will now gobble up the propaganda. Islam will have to face us someday and we will not back down or give an inch. Islam can not stand against the truth .
THE TRUTH DEFEATS IT EVERYTIME.
Thats what you fear and rightly so. You fear we that reject the lies...-Tyr

[tailfins]

You a pisspoor excuse for a human see me as a loon. :laugh2:
I'd be worried if you didnt because you are cracked like all your liberal friends.
Its scum like you that have helped destroy this nation..
Just remember if the worm turns you may not like what comes about.:laugh:--Tyr


I like loonies, they even take any I have left over at the toll booth. You have to wonder about any country who calls their currency "loonie toonie".

http://commons.bcit.ca/broadcastnews/files/2012/05/coins.jpg

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

sure is, we patriots see the enemy and will now gobble up the propaganda. Islam will have to face us someday and we will not back down or give an inch. Islam can not stand against the truth .
The truth defeats it everytime.
Thats what you fear and rightly so. You fear we that reject the lies...-tyr

correction , the word - now - should be not.

[fj1200]

correction , the word - now - should be not.

Freud would disagree.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Freud would disagree.


Freud is as dead as a can of tuna! That you think Freud is much more than the arrogant fraud that he was means nothing to me. You could just as well said, Wiley Coyote disagrees. It would hAve had FAR more standing ..-;)-TZ

[fj1200]

Freud is as dead as a can of tuna! That you think Freud is much more than the arrogant fraud that he was means nothing to me. You could just as well said, Wiley Coyote disagrees. It would hAve had FAR more standing ..-;)-TZ

:whoosh:

[jafar00]

:whoosh:

:meep meep:

[Robert A Whit]

If you do not have a sword , sell your cloak and buy one. Better to buy several. Only blades do not cut it any more. So advance on up to a few guns. Your future survival may very well depend on actions you choose to take now. The attack upon our Republic are soon going to get hard and heavy and the giving up of freedoms for supposed security will reap its harvest soon.! Obama just got given free reign to finish the job that he started folks.

I suggest extreme caution and a well stocked arsenal. Its better than being totally defenseless and completely at the mercy of the coming destuctive obama storm! First they destroyed the education system as they were taking over the free press and now its harvest time.. That this damn traitor got 8 years clearly says its about over for our nation. He is there to make damn sure it happens and we that knew it were powerless to convince the lazy, ignorant and supposed "enlightened" that selling your freedoms was not the path to take!!--Tyr

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Our Founders warned us that all republics have eventually fallen into tyranny -- the only difference being the relative timeline of each republic's descent. ... From the summer of 1787 when our Framers deliberated over their magnificent Constitution, we have recognized that the clear statement and equal application of the Law is among the most critical duties of any government. If we allow ourselves to lose this, we may as well be back in ancient Rome, subject to the whim of every petty tyrant in the taxing bureau or the zoning board. For it doesn't matter whether the regulator's foot is shod in a jack boot or a Roman sandal; if he can hold you down with that boot upon your neck, then we are no longer in the America that our Founding Fathers intended for us.
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Every bit of that is true.

When one depends on the Feds for food and clothing and shelter, why work?

[avatar4321]

Every bit of that is true.

When one depends on the Feds for food and clothing and shelter, why work?

Sheer boredom? Joy? Pleasure?

[jafar00]

Every bit of that is true.

When one depends on the Feds for food and clothing and shelter, why work?

I was on welfare at one stage of my life. I hope never to repeat it. I was at the lowest point taking whatever cash jobs I could in order to survive. Being on welfare just sux. I would rather work.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I was on welfare at one stage of my life. I hope never to repeat it. I was at the lowest point taking whatever cash jobs I could in order to survive. Being on welfare just sux. I would rather work.

You mean that you put aside your religion to take charity from infidels?? To beg alms from unbelievers!
TSK,TSK, my how unmuslim was that...;)-Tyr

[jafar00]

You mean that you put aside your religion to take charity from infidels?? To beg alms from unbelievers!
TSK,TSK, my how unmuslim was that...;)-Tyr

I wasn't Muslim at the time and I have been working hard ever since. I went from unemployed, taking whatever I could get to being the Managing Director of a financial company currently enjoying 160% growth monthly.