Medical issues

[Robert A Whit]

A Missouri couple filed a lawsuit Sept. 28 against four defendants for a birth gone horribly wrong. The New York Daily News reports Friday that Arteisha Betts and Travis Ammonette of Florissant, Mo., claim their newborn son, Kaden Travis Ammonette, died while in the birth canal. The baby's head was allegedly decapitated from its neck (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/couple-baby-decapitated-delivery-article-1.1181731?localLinksEnabled=false) when the doctor tried pulling the baby out of the birth canal.

Isn't that what an abortion is?

[007]

Abortion is the act of ending a pregnancy( abort, to end or abandon)!
abortion can be by human act or natural causes.

ending a pregnancy by human act is a legal act according to roe v wade.

A fetus is not a life, according to some!

yet sometimes people are charged with murder when they kill a fetus.

not much clarity there!!

[gabosaurus]

If the fetus has develop to the point where it can exist outside the womb, that is human life.
Zygotes and cell embryos are not human life.

[007]

If the fetus has develop to the point where it can exist outside the womb, that is human life.
Zygotes and cell embryos are not human life.
So when a violent crime ends a pregnancy why is the criminal charged with murder?
you can't murder something that is not a life, can you?

Define ability to sustain life outside the womb?
Barbie Boxer insists an infant is considered to be a life only when it arrives home from the hospital, that averages 2 days in uncomplicated pregnancies or months for other complicated deliveries!!
a little clarity please?

[aboutime]

Let's all just suppose....what you see below...could have been you, or one of your children.
Would you insist....they were NOT human??


CLICK TO ENLARGE...PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION...
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[007]

We know, I would love a little clarity from the fanatical liberal Totalitarians!!
they seem to be incapable of clarity!!

Hello Fanatical Liberal Totalitarians!!!

Any of you allowed to offer any clarity?

[jimnyc]

Is this a debate someone is asking for a one on one debate with? That's what this section is for... Let me know, if not, I'll move it to an appropriate forum.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If the fetus has develop to the point where it can exist outside the womb, that is human life.
Zygotes and cell embryos are not human life.

So you say... Who made you God?

[gabosaurus]

Apparently there are those who are unclear on the concept of which forum is which. :rolleyes:

[007]

Any chance of clearing up the contradictions I pointed out?

If an embryo is not life, why are people charged with killing an unborn if the embryo is killed during a violent act?
It isn't a life but it is even though it isn't???

Fanatical liberal totalitarians don't make sense!!

[007]

Oops!
bit tricky for ya?
perhaps you should re assess your opinions, so that they make sense!

[Robert A Whit]

Abortion is the act of ending a pregnancy( abort, to end or abandon)!
abortion can be by human act or natural causes.

ending a pregnancy by human act is a legal act according to roe v wade.

A fetus is not a life, according to some!

yet sometimes people are charged with murder when they kill a fetus.

not much clarity there!!

In the case I spoke of, the same thing happened to that child that happens in abortions. The baby was torn apart. It was never born.

[Robert A Whit]

If the fetus has develop to the point where it can exist outside the womb, that is human life.
Zygotes and cell embryos are not human life.

Names like you used were not intended to dehumanize. And that is all you accomplished.

Seems if you dehumanize them, you don't care.

[Robert A Whit]

Is this a debate someone is asking for a one on one debate with? That's what this section is for... Let me know, if not, I'll move it to an appropriate forum.

I am learning the ropes.

If it needs to be moved, and you can move it, fine with me. I had hoped it was correctly placed.

[007]

Still nothing?
so in liberalspeak it is not a life, but it is a life although it is not!

[Robert A Whit]

Why explain it when you can simply watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/J2NqqL0CnaU?rel=0