A BBC scandal in the making ?

[Drummond]

For the past several days, in the UK, we've had a scandal emerging about a disc jockey who was a household name here, and who died several months ago. His name was Jimmy Savile (latterly SIR Jimmy Savile). He earned considerable respect for what appeared to be a tireless fundraising / charity drive .. he was into all sorts of 'good civic works', and was very well liked, trusted, valued as an all-round 'good egg'.

The scandal that's emerged is one alleging he was a paedophile, and that for much of his career, he had that 'darker side' to him. A TV channel here that's a rival to the BBC (Savile was a BBC employee) did an in-depth investigation on him, and aired the results in a TV programme earlier this week.

Now, we have the prospect of there having been a 'sex ring' operating from within the BBC, decades ago. Partial quote below ... see .....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213608/Was-sex-ring-inside-BBC-Jimmy-Saviles-Radio-1-colleague-procured-girls-him.html


Police are to investigate claims that Sir Jimmy Savile and an accomplice ran a sex ring at the BBC.

The Mail has been told that a BBC employee was allegedly given the task of procuring girls for the presenter and other men to molest.

The member of staff sometimes attacked them himself, it is alleged. Gary Glitter has already been accused of being a member of the sex ring.

Now two women have separately named the former BBC employee. One, a former beauty queen, claims she was raped by him on BBC premises.

The second woman, Kim Anderson, claims Savile's alleged accomplice invited her on to a tour bus to meet the star when she was waitressing at a Marylebone drinking club as a 19-year-old.

About 40 women have now stepped forward to allege they were raped or molested by the late Jim’ll Fix It star.

As the crisis threatened to engulf the BBC, newly-appointed director general George Entwistle last night wrote to all his staff urging them to help the police.

He promised: ‘I am absolutely determined that we will leave no stone unturned in our efforts to support the police. I know I can rely on your co-operation.’

Last night Savile’s alleged accomplice told the Mail: ‘Absolutely not’, when asked if he had committed rape.
Until now, the corporation had assumed the star was working alone when he allegedly abused girls in the 1960s and 1970s.
Yesterday the beauty queen - named only as Sandra - and Mrs Anderson independently named the BBC employee they say was working as an accomplice with the Jim’ll Fix It star.

Their accounts follow earlier statements from women who say they saw Savile and others assaulting girls in his BBC dressing room.

Sandra was 23 when she won a beauty contest and wrote to Savile asking for work experience – an offer he quickly took up.

She said she was invited to Savile’s caravan in 1970, which he kept in the car park outside the BBC studios in West London.

At the time, Savile worked for Radio One. After discussing her career, she says Savile started ‘to get heavy with her’. The pair had sex in the caravan on a double bed draped with a goat-skin rug. She said: ‘I certainly didn’t fancy him. I just thought “this might make me famous” – it all happened very quickly. I just thought he was a bit of a dirty old man.’

If anyone in America decides there's something 'respectable' about the BBC, this might - just might - be an effective counter to such opinions. The fact is that, whether or not all of what's now being reported is entirely accurate, the BBC has for a very long time operated as though it's a law unto itself. If all of the above turns out to be completely accurate, I can but hope that this deals a heavy dent in their self-satisfied, broadly Left-wing, arrogant complacency.

[Noir]

This is the man in question, doesn't look like a sex offender at all...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/74753557-BB22-4ED1-BBCF-B228CEE27EB6-626-0000006DD45A3724.jpg

Anyways I don't know much about this story myself Durm, but like, he is being accused of paedophilia, but the only women mentioned in the article were 19 and 24, what were the ages of the young'uns involved?

[red states rule]

For the past several days, in the UK, we've had a scandal emerging about a disc jockey who was a household name here, and who died several months ago. His name was Jimmy Savile (latterly SIR Jimmy Savile). He earned considerable respect for what appeared to be a tireless fundraising / charity drive .. he was into all sorts of 'good civic works', and was very well liked, trusted, valued as an all-round 'good egg'.

The scandal that's emerged is one alleging he was a paedophile, and that for much of his career, he had that 'darker side' to him. A TV channel here that's a rival to the BBC (Savile was a BBC employee) did an in-depth investigation on him, and aired the results in a TV programme earlier this week.

Now, we have the prospect of there having been a 'sex ring' operating from within the BBC, decades ago. Partial quote below ... see .....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213608/Was-sex-ring-inside-BBC-Jimmy-Saviles-Radio-1-colleague-procured-girls-him.html



If anyone in America decides there's something 'respectable' about the BBC, this might - just might - be an effective counter to such opinions. The fact is that, whether or not all of what's now being reported is entirely accurate, the BBC has for a very long time operated as though it's a law unto itself. If all of the above turns out to be completely accurate, I can but hope that this deals a heavy dent in their self-satisfied, broadly Left-wing, arrogant complacency.

Since the BBC is run by liberals, for liberals, and is not owned by Rupert Murdoch - the liberal media will yawn and ignore this story

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

This is the man in question, doesn't look like a sex offender at all...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/74753557-BB22-4ED1-BBCF-B228CEE27EB6-626-0000006DD45A3724.jpg









Really, what does one look like!???--Tyr

[red states rule]

Really, what does one look like!???--Tyr


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[Noir]

Really, what does one look like!???--Tyr

http://www.alanplaysgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cropped-957.jpg
Serious or sarcasm?

[red states rule]

http://www.alanplaysgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cropped-957.jpg
Serious or sarcasm?



as far as serious


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/y/B/clinton_liberty.jpg

[Abbey Marie]

For the past several days, in the UK, we've had a scandal emerging about a disc jockey who was a household name here, and who died several months ago. His name was Jimmy Savile (latterly SIR Jimmy Savile). He earned considerable respect for what appeared to be a tireless fundraising / charity drive .. he was into all sorts of 'good civic works', and was very well liked, trusted, valued as an all-round 'good egg'.

The scandal that's emerged is one alleging he was a paedophile, and that for much of his career, he had that 'darker side' to him. A TV channel here that's a rival to the BBC (Savile was a BBC employee) did an in-depth investigation on him, and aired the results in a TV programme earlier this week.

Now, we have the prospect of there having been a 'sex ring' operating from within the BBC, decades ago. Partial quote below ... see .....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213608/Was-sex-ring-inside-BBC-Jimmy-Saviles-Radio-1-colleague-procured-girls-him.html



If anyone in America decides there's something 'respectable' about the BBC, this might - just might - be an effective counter to such opinions. The fact is that, whether or not all of what's now being reported is entirely accurate, the BBC has for a very long time operated as though it's a law unto itself. If all of the above turns out to be completely accurate, I can but hope that this deals a heavy dent in their self-satisfied, broadly Left-wing, arrogant complacency.


Their accounts follow earlier statements from women who say they saw Savile and others assaulting girls in his BBC dressing room.


Want to bet that the women who allegedly saw the assaults all those years ago and did nothing will never be sued, but the execs at the BBC will be? Just look at the US Sandusky/Penn State situation for the reasoning.

[Little-Acorn]

For the past several days, in the UK, we've had a scandal emerging about a disc jockey who was a household name here, and who died several months ago. His name was Jimmy Savile (latterly SIR Jimmy Savile). He earned considerable respect for what appeared to be a tireless fundraising / charity drive .. he was into all sorts of 'good civic works', and was very well liked, trusted, valued as an all-round 'good egg'.

The scandal that's emerged is one alleging he was a paedophile, and that for much of his career, he had that 'darker side' to him. A TV channel here that's a rival to the BBC (Savile was a BBC employee) did an in-depth investigation on him, and aired the results in a TV programme earlier this week.

Now, we have the prospect of there having been a 'sex ring' operating from within the BBC, decades ago. Partial quote below ... see .....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213608/Was-sex-ring-inside-BBC-Jimmy-Saviles-Radio-1-colleague-procured-girls-him.html



If anyone in America decides there's something 'respectable' about the BBC, this might - just might - be an effective counter to such opinions. The fact is that, whether or not all of what's now being reported is entirely accurate, the BBC has for a very long time operated as though it's a law unto itself. If all of the above turns out to be completely accurate, I can but hope that this deals a heavy dent in their self-satisfied, broadly Left-wing, arrogant complacency.

Same sort of thing happened here with an assistant football coach at a big, famous university. The asst coach AND the head coach (who did nothing but failed to report the asst coach) got fired, the asst coach is up on charges, the entire athletic program was blacklisted, the university is getting sued out of its socks, and there are rumors the university might lose its entire accreditation (might stop being a university).

[Drummond]

This is the man in question, doesn't look like a sex offender at all...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/74753557-BB22-4ED1-BBCF-B228CEE27EB6-626-0000006DD45A3724.jpg

Anyways I don't know much about this story myself Durm, but like, he is being accused of paedophilia, but the only women mentioned in the article were 19 and 24, what were the ages of the young'uns involved?

You don't know much about the story ? I'm surprised. The police are certainly taking it seriously ..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/04/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse?intcmp=239


The Metropolitan police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/police) will take the national lead on assessing the sexual abuse complaints made by women about Sir Jimmy Savile (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/jimmy-savile).

The Met's child abuse unit will examine the flood of information which has come to light this week after several women said they were assaulted by the Jim'll Fix It star in the 1960s and 1970s.

The appointment of a lead force signals that police have received a significant number of fresh allegations over the past 72 hours. Four separate police forces around the UK had received complaints against Savile by Thursday afternoon, including Surrey police and Northamptonshire police.

Scotland Yard will now decide whether to launch a full investigation into the Savile allegations after an assessment by detectives, led by detective superintendent David Grey.

The Met said it would work closely with the BBC (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/bbc) investigations unit, the body tasked earlier this week to assist with claims relating to abuse alleged to have taken place on BBC premises in London (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/london).

Scotland Yard said in a statement: "Our priority will be to ensure a proportionate and consistent policing response putting the victims at the heart of our inquiries. It is too early to say how many individual allegations there are, and we will be making contact with all those concerned in due course."

Several woman have broken their silence about the claims for the first time this week, prompted by the ITV documentary Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, which aired on Wednesday evening.

Mark Williams-Thomas, the former Surrey police child protection detective behind the ITV documentary, said a "significant number" of women had come forward to him with fresh allegations of abuse in the past 72 hours, since plans to air the ITV film were first made public. He added that the women had come forward with significant information that will be passed to police.

Woman have recounted harrowing details of how they were allegedly abused by the TV star when they were as young as 14. Former pupils of the Duncroft Approved School for girls with behavioural problems have said that they were assaulted by Savile, as have several women who went to his popular BBC shows, including Jim'll Fix It and Top of the Pops.

Once hailed as a national treasure, Savile's reputation now appears to be damaged irreparably by the claims. Archive editions of his Top of the Pops show have been pulled by the BBC and on Wednesday a memorial in Scarborough bearing his name was vandalised with the words "paedophile" and "rapist".


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/06/dj-liz-kershaw-routinely-groped-bbc


A former Radio 1 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/radio-1) DJ has claimed she was routinely groped by another presenter while working for the BBC (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/bbc) during the 1980s.

Liz Kershaw described the atmosphere at the station as intimidating and said that when she tried to complain she was accused of being a lesbian.
The BBC said it was shocked by allegations that anyone working for the corporation could have behaved that way.

A spokesperson said: "They are allegations which the police have the proper powers to investigate. We would encourage anyone with information on such issues to also speak to the police."

Kershaw's comments came as the corporation also pledged to fully co-operate with an investigation by the Metropolitan police into claims that the late presenter Sir Jimmy Savile (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/jimmy-savile) regularly abused young girls.

Kershaw, who now works for Radio 6 Music, said that when she joined Radio 1 in 1987 – the year Savile left – his behaviour was an "open secret" within the station.

"The rumours were there, the jokes were there. It was an open secret," she told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme.

[glockmail]

Since the BBC is a liberal icon, Noir chooses to ignore any controversy about it, or make excuses (like the age of consent remark, or question the motives of those who express concerns.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Since the BBC is a liberal icon, Noir chooses to ignore any controversy about it, or make excuses (like the age of consent remark, or question the motives of those who express concerns.


Libs tend to stick together like dogturds on a hot August day.:laugh:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

You don't know much about the story ? I'm surprised. The police are certainly taking it seriously ..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/04/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse?intcmp=239




http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/06/dj-liz-kershaw-routinely-groped-bbc

The BBC's Sacrosanct status is not to be trifled with Drummonds. That was Noir's point when attempting his poo-pooing it all. Noir being a lib he was compelled to defend the BBC.
OVER HERE THEY CRUCIFY ANY CONSERVATIVE OR REPUBLICAN FOR THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY IGNORE OR EVEN APPLAUD WHEN ITS ONE OF THEIR OWN DOING IT.. We see that time and time again.. -Tyr

[red states rule]

Since the BBC is a liberal icon, Noir chooses to ignore any controversy about it, or make excuses (like the age of consent remark, or question the motives of those who express concerns.

Reminds me of the Clinton years when libs did the same thing. Of course the Kennedy's got a pass as did Chris Doo when he joined Ted and made a "waitress sandwhich" at a DC eatery

[red states rule]

Libs tend to stick together like dogturds on a hot August day.:laugh:


Yep, one hand whitewashes the other

[glockmail]

Yep, one hand whitewashes the otherYou mean one turd dirties the other.

[gabosaurus]

Since the BBC is a liberal icon...

The BBC? :eek: Really? :eek:
I always knew John Peel was a communist.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The BBC? :eek: Really? :eek:
I always knew John Peel was a communist.

Sure, just bet you know a lot of communists.. you are the type.. stupid and gullible.-Tyr

[revelarts]

BBC's a big org.
to the left on most issues for sure.

but I wouldn't attach it's leftist attitudes with it's cover-up of pedos
Just as i wouldn't connect college football or ALL of Penn ST gereally with pedos
or the Roman Catholic Church with pedos (well if theyed sack the pope and do more about it i wouldn't anyway.)

Sadly anywhere there are children and adults there's some potential for problems no matter what the professed purpose of the institutions or gatherings.

generally, If anything , people in power seem to be prone to weird BS and can cover it up longer and get away with it without repercussions.

But there's a special place in Hell for people that abuse kids.

[Drummond]

The BBC? :eek: Really? :eek:
I always knew John Peel was a communist.

I'm not necessarily saying that you're wrong about Peel. However .. I'm unaware of evidence which confirms that he was one.

If you 'knew' Peel was a Communist, what did you base this on ?

[aboutime]

This is the man in question, doesn't look like a sex offender at all...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/74753557-BB22-4ED1-BBCF-B228CEE27EB6-626-0000006DD45A3724.jpg

Anyways I don't know much about this story myself Durm, but like, he is being accused of paedophilia, but the only women mentioned in the article were 19 and 24, what were the ages of the young'uns involved?



You could say the very same thing about Catholic Priests. Do they All look like YOU noir?

[Noir]

Lol at the the 'Noir ha to defend the BBC' posts, it could happily close down tomorrow for all I care, but don't you guys stop with the assumptions =p

[Drummond]

Want to bet that the women who allegedly saw the assaults all those years ago and did nothing will never be sued, but the execs at the BBC will be? Just look at the US Sandusky/Penn State situation for the reasoning.

Actually, I'd be surprised if the BBC executives you're thinking of don't escape from all of this unscathed (.. or at least, relatively so). The BBC is nothing if not arrogant in protecting its own.

These links might be of interest ...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-bbc-snub-david-1366691

.. from one of the UK's trashier papers .. the Daily Mirror, a staunch Left-wing publication. No doubt with some satisfaction .. they published this, on their front page today >>


David Cameron has told of his horror at the sickening allegations of child abuse against Jimmy Savile.

He described the claims he had heard from a number of alleged victims as “truly shocking”.

And the PM called on the BBC to launch a full investigation into the scandal that has engulfed the Top of the Tops presenter almost a year after his death at the age of 84.

Speaking on BBC1’s Andrew Marr show, he said: “These allegations need to be properly looked at, properly investigated.

“And it seems to me it is very important that the organisation, the BBC, does that itself.”

His call came after two more celebrities, Sandi Toksvig and Liz Kershaw, came forward to tell of a culture of sexual abuse at the corporation in the 80s when Savile was at the height of his fame.

New Director General George Entwistle had promised on Friday that he would leave “no stone unturned” to find the truth about Savile.

But yesterday the BBC insisted it would NOT be carrying out an inquiry.

A spokesman said: “The police are the proper authority to look into these serious allegations.”

He added: “They have made it clear that an internal inquiry run in parallel would risk impeding their work.”

The snub to Mr Cameron came after a number of alleged victims spoke out against Savile.

No doubt they have been hoping that any police inquiry might miss important evidence .. a damage limitation exercise ? Cameron's statement on the Andrew Marr show would've been made mid-morning, on Sunday, when his show is aired on BBC-1. A DAY LATER, after initially issuing their snub .. the BBC have begrudgingly given some ground .. and said they'll investigate, AFTER the police have done their own work on this.

It takes quite a lot of arrogance to defy the Prime Minister in such a fashion.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-allegations-1366986


BBC director general George Entwistle was today forced into an embarrassing U-turn as he ordered an investigation into the Jimmy Savile child abuse scandal.

Following pressure from David Cameron and the Mirror, Mr Entwistle said the BBC would conduct an inquiry after the police have completed their probe into the numerous complaints.

The boss also apologised to the victims on behalf of the BBC.

On Sunday the PM called the Savile abuse claims “truly shocking” and said the BBC should investigate. But the corporation insisted the job should be left to cops.

Just 14 hours later, Mr Entwistle backtracked and said the BBC will carry out a “comprehensive examination” of what went on. He told Radio 4’s Today programme: “These are awful allegations that have been made and they are criminal allegations.

“The first thing I want to say is that the women involved here have gone through something awful, something I deeply regret they should have to go through.

"I would like to apologise on behalf of the organisation to each and every one of them for what they had to endure here.”

It surprises me that the Mirror would support Cameron on anything ! They are normally quite rabidly Left-wing. However .. this time, they apparently have.

[Noir]

You could say the very same thing about Catholic Priests. Do they All look like YOU noir?

They do!
Not to mention the nuns, I guess that's why they have specific uniforms, so you can tell the presets from the nuns...

[aboutime]

They do!
Not to mention the nuns, I guess that's why they have specific uniforms, so you can tell the presets from the nuns...


Really? You are telling us they all look like YOU? You really should learn to read, understand, and comprehend first.

[Drummond]

BBC's a big org.
to the left on most issues for sure.

but I wouldn't attach it's leftist attitudes with it's cover-up of pedos

Why not ?

It seems to me that the BBC's attitude is fairly typically Left wing. Isn't it characteristically Left-wing behaviour to blithely ignore reality when they prefer to .. to try and insist that the way they view things is how everyone else must also perceive reality ?

The BBC, right from the 1980's to now, has operated as though its way of thinking and behaving was all that mattered. Why, even 24 hours ago, they tried to resist a call from the PRIME MINISTER for transparency on this issue !


But there's a special place in Hell for people that abuse kids.

.. yes. It's doubtless called 'Leftie Central' (after 'Thrush Central', in the 'Man from U.N.C.L.E, i.e Thrush Central, but on a really bad day ..).

Fact is, revelarts, that if it weren't for a bunch of control-freaking, morally deficient Lefties who thought they weren't answerable to anybody, all this would've been uncovered, literally, DECADES ago ...

[Noir]

Really? You are telling us they all look like YOU? You really should learn to read, understand, and comprehend first.

Yes I am. Understood and comprehended.

[aboutime]

Yes I am. Understood and comprehended.


CHOOSE ONE......either you are a PRIEST, or......you are a NUN.

[Drummond]

The BBC's Sacrosanct status is not to be trifled with Drummonds. That was Noir's point when attempting his poo-pooing it all. Noir being a lib he was compelled to defend the BBC.
OVER HERE THEY CRUCIFY ANY CONSERVATIVE OR REPUBLICAN FOR THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY IGNORE OR EVEN APPLAUD WHEN ITS ONE OF THEIR OWN DOING IT.. We see that time and time again.. -Tyr

The BBC has become institutionally arrogant, thinking itself to be immune to any significant harm. There's a TV licence fee that everyone wanting to watch television legally has to pay .. and the BBC is guaranteed revenues from it. This makes them nearly immune from the more usual competitive pressures that other Companies have to cope with as a normal fact of their existence.

[Noir]

CHOOSE ONE......either you are a PRIEST, or......you are a NUN.

I don't wear the uniform, so you can't tell.

That was the secondary joke in my post, shame you didn't understand or comprehended it, amiright? =P

[aboutime]

I don't wear the uniform, so you can't tell.

That was the secondary joke in my post, shame you didn't understand or comprehended it, amiright? =P


No need to be able to tell. You've already RUNG the bell. Can't UNRING it now.

[gabosaurus]

That was the secondary joke in my post, shame you didn't understand or comprehended it, amiright? =P

Story of his life, I'm afraid. :cool:

[aboutime]

Story of his life, I'm afraid. :cool:



Right you are Gabby. And thankfully. I HAVE A LIFE that doesn't include lies, or liberal ignorance.

[Drummond]

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/savile-may-have-abused-25-victims


Jimmy Savile may have abused as many as 25 victims over a 40-year period on a "national scale", police say. Scotland Yard has formally recorded eight criminal allegations against Savile so far in its investigation, named Operation Yewtree.

The alleged abuse involves teenage girls as young as 13 and includes two complaints of rape and six of indecent assault, with officers looking into up to 120 lines of inquiry.

The scale of the alleged abuse by the former Top of the Pops presenter was disclosed as Savile's family planned to remove the headstone from his grave to ensure the "dignity and sanctity" of the cemetery.

A family spokesman said in a statement: "The family members are deeply aware of the impact that the stone remaining there could have on the dignity and sanctity of the cemetery.

"Out of respect to public opinion, to those who are buried there, and to those who tend their graves and visit there, we have decided to remove it."

A number of memorials to Savile have already been removed, including an inscription on the wall at Leeds Civic Hall in recognition of his charity work, and a street sign in Scarborough, North Yorkshire.

Commander Peter Spindler, head of specialist crime investigations at Scotland Yard, said the allegations - the earliest of which dates back to 1959 - span four decades, with information suggesting abuse was on a "national scale".

... and nobody at the BBC had any idea any of this could be going on ? Really .. ?

No 'investigative journalist' there could have possibly picked up on this story, one linked to their very backyard, over FOUR DECADES ??

[red states rule]

Right you are Gabby. And thankfully. I HAVE A LIFE that doesn't include lies, or liberal ignorance.

You have to understand one thing about Gabby. She hold members of the US miltary, Tea Party supporters, pro lifers, and all conservatives in total contempt. It is all part of that tolerance liberals are famous for.

[Drummond]

... this story is still rumbling on ... the allegations of Savile's serial abuse keep growing in number.

And this aspect of it has now emerged ..

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bbc-to-reveal-why-jimmy-savile-newsnight-programme-was-never-aired-8208459.html

More developments should follow. But, it now transpires that BBC-2's 'Newsnight' programme had done an investigation on Savile's activities quite some time ago. There was at one point an intention to air it ... YET ... the decision was made to keep transmission of their investigation off of the airwaves.

See ..


Ken MacQuarrie, director of BBC Scotland, will speak to Newsnight journalists about the aborted broadcast after several of them wrote to Mr Entwistle to ask why the film was not aired, a BBC spokesman confirmed last night.

The director-general asked Mr MacQuarrie as he was a "senior member of management" at the BBC, the spokesman added.

The BBC's reputation is increasingly under fire after an avalanche of allegations that the corporation was aware of claims about Savile's actions, but did nothing about them.

David Nicolson, who worked as a director on Jim'll Fix It, claimed to have caught Savile having sex with a girl in his dressing room, but was laughed away when he voiced his concerns, The Sun said.

Grant Shapps, chairman of the Conservative Party, told BBC1's Question Time last night that it "seems unimaginable" that people at the BBC were unaware of the child abuse allegations.

He said: "What happened now appears to be outrageous. It's particularly disturbing that a programme paying tribute, a three-parter, went out just last Christmas after it was already known at senior levels within the BBC that something was wrong, enough to have had a serious Newsnight programme made about it and enough to raise serious concerns.

"I do think there are definitely questions that do need answering."

Mr Shapps backed calls for Savile to be stripped of his knighthood, saying "it can't be right" that he remains a Sir in name following the allegations.

He said: "I would be in favour of the Forfeiture Committee taking a close look at this because it can't be right that somebody apparently keeps the Sir in front of their name when this is the reality of their life."

Fresh claims of sexual abuse have been made against the late TV presenter, following allegations that he preyed on children during hospital visits.

A string of police forces have received complaints and referred them to Scotland Yard, which is leading the investigation.

Greater Manchester, Lancashire, North Yorkshire and Tayside are the latest forces to say allegations have been made.

A woman told Greater Manchester Police of a sexual relationship she had with Savile from the age of 15, while a second said she was groped by him in Salford when she was under 16.

Another woman told Tayside Police she was targeted in the Liverpool area, an alleged victim told North Yorkshire Police she was preyed on by Savile in Scarborough in the 1980s, and two women complained to Lancashire Police about incidents when one was 14, in the 1960s, and the other 15, in the 1980s.

Claims have also emerged that Savile groped young patients at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire, where he worked as a volunteer fundraiser, while one woman alleged that she saw him molest a brain-damaged hospital patient at Leeds General Hospital.

Nurses at Stoke Mandeville are understood to have dreaded Savile's visits because of his behaviour and would tell children to stay in bed and pretend to be asleep when he came round.

Caroline Moore claims she was assaulted by Savile at the age of 13 while being treated for spinal injuries at Stoke Mandeville in 1971.

Mrs Moore, from Clarkston in East Renfrewshire, told BBC Radio Scotland: "I was outside a ward or a gym and he came out and just rammed his tongue down my throat.

"I told my family at the time. They didn't take it seriously because he was such a high-profile character."

June Thornton, a patient at Leeds General Infirmary in 1972, said she saw Savile abuse someone she thought was a brain-damaged girl.

Ms Thornton said that when she told a nurse about the abuse, she was ignored.

"I thought he was a visitor coming to see her. He started rubbing his hands down her arms and then, I don't know of a nice way to put it, but he molested her. He helped himself. She just sat there and couldn't do anything about it," she told ITV News.

Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust, which runs Stoke Mandeville, and Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust said they were helping police with their investigations.

Police believe Savile could have abused as many as 25 victims over a period of 40 years, and have so far formally recorded a number of criminal allegations including rape and indecent assault.

The raft of allegations against Savile has been branded a "cesspit" by BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten who pledged to hold an independent inquiry as swiftly as possible after the police investigation.

As more allegations emerged, Savile's headstone was removed from his grave in Scarborough because his family said they wanted to pay "respect to public opinion". The Savile Hall conference venue in his home city Leeds will also be renamed.

Conservative MP Rob Wilson, who has written to Stoke Mandeville Hospital calling for an immediate investigation into the Savile allegations, told the BBC Radio 4 PM programme: "This is fast becoming a scandal that is fast engulfing a much wider part of the public sector than I originally thought it would.

"We can now see evidence developing that not just the BBC is involved in this - we now have parts of the NHS, the Crown Prosecution Service and some are even suggesting the police have some questions to answer.

"This is becoming a very widescale issue."

The BBC's reputation is increasingly under fire after an avalanche of allegations that the corporation was aware of claims about Savile's actions, but did nothing about them.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

... this story is still rumbling on ... the allegations of Savile's serial abuse keep growing in number.

And this aspect of it has now emerged ..

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bbc-to-reveal-why-jimmy-savile-newsnight-programme-was-never-aired-8208459.html

More developments should follow. But, it now transpires that BBC-2's 'Newsnight' programme had done an investigation on Savile's activities quite some time ago. There was at one point an intention to air it ... YET ... the decision was made to keep transmission of their investigation off of the airwaves.

See ..

The more one covers shat with more shat the stronger the odor grows and eventually even the blind can smell the shat of the matter. The BBC kept things in check for a very long time but like a rotting corpse of a dead dog on the side of the road eventually the smell makes it known to the public at large. But what wil be the result of this? I mean any meaningful result? -Tyr

[Drummond]

The more one covers shat with more shat the stronger the odor grows and eventually even the blind can smell the shat of the matter. The BBC kept things in check for a very long time but like a rotting corpse of a dead dog on the side of the road eventually the smell makes it known to the public at large. But what wil be the result of this? I mean any meaningful result? -Tyr

The result of all this .. rather hard to say at this time, Tyr, as much needs to be done.

Savile died around a year ago, so there's of course no question of prosecuting him !! And part of what makes this so 'remarkable' (for want of a better description !) is that Savile, and all his charitable works over the years, earned him respect taken to the point of reverence from many people. For Savile to be the abuser it's now clear he was, and for some to have known of this for DECADES, yet not the slightest whisper of any of this surfacing in our media at any time during his life, is .. simply staggering.

Even if the BBC had wanted to keep a lid on all of this, still, they're not the only media 'game in town'. None of our newspapers, nor Sky News, nor ITV News, ever picked up on this at all. We now know that Savile earned police interest during his life .. but again, NOBODY said anything. No evidence of media investigations, if not by the BBC, then by any other agency, either.

The police have much to belatedly investigate, not least because more allegations are being made daily. Though the BBC even initially resisted calls from our Prime Minister to hold their own inquiry (.. such is their incredible arrogance !), the newly-appointed Director General has now said he'll see to it that an internal inquiry is conducted to see what the BBC knew, and why they acted as they did (a separate one is promised on why 'Newsnight' didn't air an investigation of their own).

It now seems that a cover-up about Savile extends much further .. that even the police themselves have questions to answer. The NHS is also involved, because of the association Savile had with Stoke Mandeville Hospital, amongst others .. partly because of his charity links with them, also because much of Savile's abuses took place within hospitals, where he even preyed on the sick and the disabled. If his degeneracies were so well known amongst NHS staff, why did NO complaints, EVER, get made ? Why did anybody tolerate him, much less did so for so very long ? Why weren't the staff willing to put the welfare of those in their care above the interests of Savile and his bogus reputation ?

So there are many lines of inquiry, Tyr, and much to be answered. Given that all the allegations are entirely true, the sheer willingness of so many to protect Savile and his cult of 'respectability', and to do so for DECADES ... this has to mean that there'll be much reform to be put into place.

And who knows whether even what we NOW know is anything like the whole of the story. It's said that other showbiz personalities may have other Jekyll and Hyde personalities, needing to be similarly uncovered ...

.. maybe there are more cover-ups yet to be discovered ? The stench of corruption may extend to way more than we already know of.

[Drummond]

It now turns out that allegations against Savile were known about (or at least suspected) two decades ago ! See ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19940085

Also this ... where a former high-ranking ex-BBC official tries to deflect away efforts to focus on the BBC in particular on this ..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9607754/Jimmy-Savile-Former-BBC-Trust-chairman-criticises-hysteria.html


He said he understood why there would be an “intense focus” on the “national broadcaster” but added: “As you know there is a degree of hysteria in the extent to which it is focused exclusively on the BBC rather than being seen as something of much wider consequence".

[Noir]

It now turns out that allegations against Savile were known about (or at least suspected) two decades ago ! See ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19940085

Also this ... where a former high-ranking ex-BBC official tries to deflect away efforts to focus on the BBC in particular on this ..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9607754/Jimmy-Savile-Former-BBC-Trust-chairman-criticises-hysteria.html



Apparently (as in - I haven't read it myself) Jimmys autobiography all but says he did some of the things he's been accused of. Amazing that even after that these things didn't come to light.

[Drummond]

Apparently (as in - I haven't read it myself) Jimmys autobiography all but says he did some of the things he's been accused of. Amazing that even after that these things didn't come to light.

'Amazing', you say ? Ahem !! This is the BBC we're talking about, who'll do what it takes to pursue their interests !!

As you no doubt know yourself, Noir, we now have 'Panorama' .. one BBC investigative programme .. with its team investigating the 'Newsnight' team !!

This is the BBC going to enormous lengths to somehow remain credible in its public's eyes ...

Now see this (proof of Tyr's earlier observation, surely ?) ...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-crisis-over-jimmy-savile-scandal-230855612.html


The Newsnight editor who dropped an investigation into claims Sir Jimmy Savile sexually abused people "is stepping aside", the BBC says.

Peter Rippon, who says he dropped the report for editorial reasons, will leave his role with "immediate effect" while an independent review into the BBC's treatment of the Savile crisis is carried out.

The corporation has also published corrections to a blog post by Mr Rippon , which had aimed to explain his decision to drop the programme's investigation into allegations of sexual abuse by the late presenter.

In a statement the BBC described the inaccuracies as "deeply concerning".

It says: "It is apparent from information supplied by the Newsnight editor and programme team - that the explanation in a blog by the editor of his decision to drop the programme's investigation is inaccurate or incomplete in some respects."

It says that while the blog had said that Newsnight had no evidence against the BBC, there were some allegations of abusive conduct on BBC premises.

The blog also claimed that all the women spoken to by the programme had contacted the police and that Newsnight had no new evidence against that would have helped the police. But the BBC now says that in some cases women had not spoken to the police and that the police were not aware of all the allegations.

Prime Minister David Cameron has called the developments "disturbing".

He said: "The nation is appalled, we're all appalled, by the allegations of what Jimmy Savile did and they seem to get worse by the day.

"The developments today are concerning because the BBC has effectively changed its story about why it dropped the Newsnight programme about Jimmy Savile."

The BBC is said to be facing "its worst crisis for 50 years", as a documentary lifts the lid on the extent to which senior managers of the corporation were aware of the Sir Jimmy Savile abuse claims.

A special edition of Panorama reveals fresh evidence about what the BBC knew of Savile's decades of child abuse and its investigation into why Newsnight spiked its probe into the scandal, sparking allegations of a cover-up.

The BBC flagship programme, which airs tonight, examines why corporation chiefs - including the director-general - gave different explanations why Newsnight was dropped and what it was about.

Mr Rippon maintains the piece - which was due to run last December - was pulled for editorial reasons, and not because the potentially damaging revelations coincided with a planned tribute to the star.

But the hour-long documentary will hear from Newsnight producer Meirion Jones and reporter Liz MacKean, who both claim they had interviewed at least four alleged victims of Savile - and confirmed with Surrey Police that officers had investigated sex abuse complaints against the Jim'll Fix It star in 2007.

The journalists say that, when they told bosses the Crown Prosecution Service did not charge Savile because of insufficient evidence, they were told to end the investigation - and the show was withdrawn.

BBC director-general George Entwistle said it would be "inappropriate" for him to comment ahead of the broadcast, as he has not yet seen the programme. He added: "There will be a BBC statement later this morning touching upon some of the issues raised".

The programme also calls into question Mr Entwistle's handling of the crisis in the days after it broke.

On October 5, Mr Entwistle wrote an email to all staff saying "the BBC Newsnight programme investigated Surrey Police's enquiry into Jimmy Savile towards the end of 2011". But Meirion Jones sent an email reply to Mr Entwistle on the same day taking issue with his account.

He wrote: "George - one note - the investigation was into whether Jimmy Savile was a paedophile - I know because it was my investigation. We didn't know that Surrey Police had investigated Jimmy Savile - no-one did - that was what we found when we investigated and interviewed his victims."

The abuse stories about Savile only fully emerged after ITV broadcast a documentary at the start of this month - sparking controversy at the BBC over losing its scoop and leading to the cover-up allegations.

[Noir]

'Amazing', you say ? Ahem !! This is the BBC we're talking about, who'll do what it takes to pursue their interests !!

When someone rights am autobiography, basically stating they are a sex offender, regardless of who they worked for its pretty amazing that its gone unreported until now.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

'Amazing', you say ? Ahem !! This is the BBC we're talking about, who'll do what it takes to pursue their interests !!

As you no doubt know yourself, Noir, we now have 'Panorama' .. one BBC investigative programme .. with its team investigating the 'Newsnight' team !!

This is the BBC going to enormous lengths to somehow remain credible in its public's eyes ...

Now see this (proof of Tyr's earlier observation, surely ?) ...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-crisis-over-jimmy-savile-scandal-230855612.html


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Drummonds , looks like a few heads are going to be lopped off. Not enough but better than nothing.-Tyr

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/oct/24/jimmy-savile-scandal-bbc-awful?newsfeed=true
It's not looking good for the BBC. It hasn't looked good since the ITV exposé of Savile's record first prompted denials from TV Centre and Broadcasting House that there had been any corporate cowardice or cover-up down the decades, let alone that Newsnight's investigation last year was canned because it might have skewered tributes to Saint Jimmy in the Christmas schedule.
No one I know, including people with plenty of experience of how the BBC works, believed it. Chris Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/bbc-trust), who defended its independence (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/23/lord-patten-defends-bbc-jimmy-savile-scandal) on Tuesday night after a salvo from Maria Miller, the Tory culture secretary, sounded pretty feeble (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n6rs9) when grilled by Steve Hewlett on Radio 4's Media Show two weeks ago. Five weeks into his job as the Patten-appointed director-general, George Entwistle, sounded feeble too when grilled by MPs (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/23/incurious-george-entwistle-flak-jimmy-savile) on Tuesday.
That's all as it should be. Major public institution screws up and is held to account. Reviews and inquiries are launched and – in the old BBC joke – assistant heads must roll. Newsnight capo Peter Rippon, of email fame, has duly stepped aside and (begging Sir Christopher Bland's pardon) will probably never step back again.
In Tuesday's Daily Mail, the redoubtable Max Hastings tells a sad tale of BBC "control freaks and cowards (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2221659/Jimmy-Savile-scandal-The-BBC-empire-control-freaks-cowards.html?ITO=1490)", which sounds truer than I would wish. But it's also true that the BBC's Panorama programme has played a powerful role in exposing the corporation's weakness – something you won't often see inside a Fleet Street media group.

[Drummond]

When someone rights am autobiography, basically stating they are a sex offender, regardless of who they worked for its pretty amazing that its gone unreported until now.

To an extent I must agree. Even so .. did you watch the Panorama investigation programme ? They made the point that Savile preyed on some of the very people whose word would never be believed over his own .. Broadmoor patients, for example.

Then again, Savile was worth millions in his own right, and doubtless had people in the BBC, over the decades, who'd have been willing to protect him (.. to protect themselves ..).

[Drummond]

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Drummonds , looks like a few heads are going to be lopped off. Not enough but better than nothing.-Tyr

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/oct/24/jimmy-savile-scandal-bbc-awful?newsfeed=true
It's not looking good for the BBC. It hasn't looked good since the ITV exposé of Savile's record first prompted denials from TV Centre and Broadcasting House that there had been any corporate cowardice or cover-up down the decades, let alone that Newsnight's investigation last year was canned because it might have skewered tributes to Saint Jimmy in the Christmas schedule.
No one I know, including people with plenty of experience of how the BBC works, believed it. Chris Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/bbc-trust), who defended its independence (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/23/lord-patten-defends-bbc-jimmy-savile-scandal) on Tuesday night after a salvo from Maria Miller, the Tory culture secretary, sounded pretty feeble (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n6rs9) when grilled by Steve Hewlett on Radio 4's Media Show two weeks ago. Five weeks into his job as the Patten-appointed director-general, George Entwistle, sounded feeble too when grilled by MPs (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/23/incurious-george-entwistle-flak-jimmy-savile) on Tuesday.
That's all as it should be. Major public institution screws up and is held to account. Reviews and inquiries are launched and – in the old BBC joke – assistant heads must roll. Newsnight capo Peter Rippon, of email fame, has duly stepped aside and (begging Sir Christopher Bland's pardon) will probably never step back again.
In Tuesday's Daily Mail, the redoubtable Max Hastings tells a sad tale of BBC "control freaks and cowards (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2221659/Jimmy-Savile-scandal-The-BBC-empire-control-freaks-cowards.html?ITO=1490)", which sounds truer than I would wish. But it's also true that the BBC's Panorama programme has played a powerful role in exposing the corporation's weakness – something you won't often see inside a Fleet Street media group.

All well said (-reported -), Tyr.

I think that this is all being played like a game of chess, with those in high positions within the BBC very aware that there's much more to be learned still (a report from today says that a further NINE broadcasters are under investigation, though their identities are being kept under wraps). Remember, it wasn't many days ago when, initially, the BBC rejected a call for their own investigation. Then, this was quickly modified to say that they wanted the police investigation to precede one of their own. Then, David Cameron spoke up .. and this developed, turned on its head, leading to that Panorama programme.

I think - had the BBC been more a master of its fate - that they'd have continued to reject calls for an inquiry/investigation. But they haven't been .. and add to that the lack of trust the British public would have in the BBC, I think the Panorama programme, as critical and open as it was, was aired as a propaganda tool to show people a display of integrity FROM the BBC .. to generate what level of trust they still can.

At the end of the day, foreign business revenues notwithstanding, Tyr, the BBC gets most of its funds from the British public via the Licence fee, the level of which the Government helps determine. The BBC is waking up to the fact that, if enough people turned against it to enough of an extent, there could be an outcry against its level of funding .. and more. The BBC is our flagship public broadcaster, and needs respectability and trust to ensure its future.

So, it needed a display of belated 'reputability' from the brand of journalism brought into play by 'Panorama'.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

All well said (-reported -), Tyr.

I think that this is all being played like a game of chess, with those in high positions within the BBC very aware that there's much more to be learned still (a report from today says that a further NINE broadcasters are under investigation, though their identities are being kept under wraps). Remember, it wasn't many days ago when, initially, the BBC rejected a call for their own investigation. Then, this was quickly modified to say that they wanted the police investigation to precede one of their own. Then, David Cameron spoke up .. and this developed, turned on its head, leading to that Panorama programme.

I think - had the BBC been more a master of its fate - that they'd have continued to reject calls for an inquiry/investigation. But they haven't been .. and add to that the lack of trust the British public would have in the BBC, I think the Panorama programme, as critical and open as it was, was aired as a propaganda tool to show people a display of integrity FROM the BBC .. to generate what level of trust they still can.

At the end of the day, foreign business revenues notwithstanding, Tyr, the BBC gets most of its funds from the British public via the Licence fee, the level of which the Government helps determine. The BBC is waking up to the fact that, if enough people turned against it to enough of an extent, there could be an outcry against its level of funding .. and more. The BBC is our flagship public broadcaster, and needs respectability and trust to ensure its future.

So, it needed a display of belated 'reputability' from the brand of journalism brought into play by 'Panorama'.

Better late than never , right? Of course great pressure had to be mounted to force the BBC to do right and evn then it was slow in coming. Lefties sure hate to have to discipiline their own dont they? The guy was scum but treated like royalty while still alive. A crying shame he didnt have to spend decades in prison but his place in hell is safe enough. --Tyr

[Drummond]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20278885


A BBC Newsnight report in which an abuse victim accused a former Tory politician of sex abuse should not have been broadcast, BBC director general George Entwistle says.

He gave an unreserved apology to Lord McAlpine after it wrongly implicated him in abuse at care homes in Wales.

Mr Entwistle, the BBC's editor-in-chief, said he was not aware of the episode until after it was broadcast.

The BBC Trust said it expected "appropriate action" to be taken.

The abuse victim, Steve Messham, apologised to Lord McAlpine, a former Tory treasurer during Margaret Thatcher's leadership, after saying he did not assault him.

He said that in the 1990s he was shown a photograph by police of his alleged abuser but was incorrectly told it was Lord McAlpine. On Friday, he was shown another photo - and realised it was not the peer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-Director-General-admits-Newsnight-scandal-documentary-gone-humiliating-grilling-live-air-presenter.html


The BBC's Director General George Entwhistle was humiliated live on air by one of his own presenters today over the Newsnight report that wrongly implicated former Tory treasurer Lord McAlpine in child abuse.

As he embarked on a crushing round of interviews, which included Sky, BBC Breakfast, Radio 5 and Radio Five Live, the BBC boss was laid into by his top attack dog John Humphrys.

The veteran presenter made Mr Entwhistle admit he knew nothing about the current affairs programme that broadcasted catastrophic child sex abuse allegations before it went out and defend his position as head of the BBC.

Mr Entwhistle, a former Newsnight editor himself, went on to describe the report on the North Wales children's home scandal as 'unacceptable' and warned staff involved in the programme shown last week could now face disciplinary action.

Speaking on Radio 4's flagship Today programme, he also admitted he did not watch the BBC2 show which led to a former Tory party treasurer being wrongly accused because he was 'out'.

The BBC chief said he failed to ask key questions about the Newsnight investigation broadcast which contained allegations by abuse victim Steve Messham that a senior Conservative Party figure from the Thatcher era was at the centre of a wide-spread paedophile ring.

The individual was not named, but information in the programme led to false rumours about Lord McAlpine being circulated widely on the internet.

So, the BBC's 'Newsnight' is now involved in a second scandal.

Previously, 'Newsnight' had prepared an investigation into Jimmy Savile. A decision was taken not to air the resulting programme, which meant that allegations against Savile, a former BBC employee, remained buried for several months. Our Conservative Prime Minister wanted an investigation into the BBC's conduct. This was initially resisted by the BBC, though not for very long .. after pressure to hold one had become too intolerable for them to continue to deflect.

Now, 'Newsnight' has rushed to air a story which - ERRONEOUSLY - linked a senior Conservative of the Margaret Thatcher era (Lord McAlpine) to a fresh scandal. This was all based on Twiter gossip .. but it appears 'Newsnight' ran with their story, but without properly investigating it beforehand.

Lord McAlpine isn't in the best of health ... but must now endure being dragged into a scandal he should never have been linked to. He fully intends to sue the BBC for what it's done.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20278885



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-Director-General-admits-Newsnight-scandal-documentary-gone-humiliating-grilling-live-air-presenter.html



So, the BBC's 'Newsnight' is now involved in a second scandal.

Previously, 'Newsnight' had prepared an investigation into Jimmy Savile. A decision was taken not to air the resulting programme, which meant that allegations against Savile, a former BBC employee, remained buried for several months. Our Conservative Prime Minister wanted an investigation into the BBC's conduct. This was initially resisted by the BBC, though not for very long .. after pressure to hold one had become too intolerable for them to continue to deflect.

Now, 'Newsnight' has rushed to air a story which - ERRONEOUSLY - linked a senior Conservative of the Margaret Thatcher era (Lord McAlpine) to a fresh scandal. This was all based on Twiter gossip .. but it appears 'Newsnight' ran with their story, but without properly investigating it beforehand.

Lord McAlpine isn't in the best of health ... but must now endure being dragged into a scandal he should never have been linked to. He fully intends to sue the BBC for what it's done.

Corruption runs deep within the BBC. JUST HOW MESSED UP IS IT?
Is it totally sold out to the leftist government agenda as well?--Tyr

[Noir]

Watching newsnight last night was something surreal. An on air suicide, and postmortem.

Editors and sub-editors heads are gonna be rolling this weekend.

[Abbey Marie]

Watching newsnight last night was something surreal. An on air suicide, and postmortem.

Editors and sub-editors heads are gonna be rolling this weekend.

What?!

[Noir]

What?!

Not like a person commuting suicide lol, rather journalistic suicide.

They basically spent the whole program taking about how stupid/disgraceful/amateur they were, and published a statement saying all current investigations are being suspended.

And the show closed with the host saying "Newsnight will be back on Monday, probably."

[Drummond]

Corruption runs deep within the BBC. JUST HOW MESSED UP IS IT?
Is it totally sold out to the leftist government agenda as well?--Tyr

Well, Tyr, the point about the BBC is that it has an inbuilt bias towards the Left. It can't be claimed that they've 'sold out to the leftist government agenda', since our Left wing Party (Labour) hasn't been in power since 2010. Yes, we have a 'soft Left' in the shape of the LibDems who are the smaller part of a Coalition Government partnered with the Conservative Party .. but that's it. No .. the BBC's biases come from BBC staff, and these do tend to surface in their output every so often (or continuously, if a particular propagandist line has to be continually maintained .. their coverage of Libyan rebel action, before Gaddafi was deposed and killed, was a good example).

But there have been developments, Tyr & folks, which have totally dominated UK news output in the past 24 hours ... showing (and it freely admits this) that the BBC is in crisis mode. The BBC's Director General resigned last evening because of this latest scandal.

It's been fascinating to witness - most especially the total disappearance of their presenters' usual smugness in recent hours. They really do look like they've had the stuffing knocked out of them.

See ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848

This provides a timeline of the two scandals which have emerged from the BBC in recent weeks - I've just reproduced text from the recent developments below (there is more than this to read). From the latest development, to its creation ...


The BBC's director general George Entwistle has resigned over a chain of events culminating in a report on child abuse going out on Newsnight which led to Conservative peer Lord McAlpine being mistakenly implicated.

Sat 10 Nov 2012 - 21:12: Entwistle resigns
George Entwistle resigns as BBC director general, saying that "in the light of the unacceptable journalistic standards of the Newsnight film broadcast on Friday 2 November" he had decided it was "the honourable thing to do".

His 54 full days in post make him the corporation's shortest-serving DG.

Sat 10 Nov 2012- 08:34: Entwistle appears on Today

In an interview with the Today programme's John Humphrys, Mr Entwistle says he did not see the Newsnight report which did not name Lord McAlpine but led to him being mistakenly implicated in child abuse at north Wales care homes, until after it had been broadcast.

He also said that he had not seen tweets prior to the Newsnight report which flagged up its content, nor a front page newspaper article on Friday which said the story was based on mistaken identity.

Fri 9 Nov 2012: BBC apologises for Wales abuse report

Former Conservative Party treasurer Lord McAlpine issues a denial over internet reports linking him to alleged historical child sexual abuse in north Wales saying they are "wholly false and seriously defamatory".

Victim Steve Messham apologises for the case of mistaken identity, saying police had showed him a picture of his abuser but incorrectly told him the man was Lord McAlpine.

The BBC issues an unreserved apology for a Newsnight report which led to Lord McAlpine being wrongly implicated in the alleged abuse and announces an "immediate pause" in all Newsnight investigations.

Thu 8 Nov 2012: This Morning ambushes Cameron

Live on ITV's This Morning, presenter Phillip Schofield hands Prime Minister David Cameron a list of names which Mr Schofield says have been mentioned online as paedophiles.

Mr Cameron, who does not look at the list, says he is "worried" that speculation about unproven allegations could lead to a "witch-hunt particularly against people who are gay" and advises anyone with evidence of abuse should go to the police.

Tue 6 Nov 2012: May announces police inquiry

Home Secretary Theresa May announces a new police inquiry, led by the head of the National Crime Agency, into allegations of child abuse in north Wales in the 1970s and 1980s.

Separately, Mrs Justice Julia Macur will investigate the terms of the Waterhouse abuse inquiry.

Steve Messham, who made the allegation which ended up implicating Lord McAlpine, meets the Welsh Secretary.

Mon 5 Nov 2012: Cameron pledges to look at abuse claims

The prime minister says he is appointing a 'senior independent figure' to look into the way allegations of sexual abuse at north Wales children's homes in the 1970s and '80s were dealt with.

Fri 2 Nov 2012: Newsnight airs Wales abuse report

Newsnight broadcasts a report in which a man who was sexually abused when living in a children's home in north Wales in the 1980s, calls for a new investigation.

In the report, Steve Messham says that a leading Thatcher-era Conservative politician abused him a number of times. Although the programme does not name the politician, it leads to speculation on the internet, which either names or implicates former treasury minister Lord McAlpine.

Fri 2 Nov 2012: Michael Crick tweets

Hours before that evening's edition of Newsnight, the programme's former political editor Michael Crick tweets "'Senior political figure' due to be accused tonight by BBC of being paedophile denies allegations + tells me he'll issue libel writ against BBC".

He adds that the person - now known to be Lord McAlpine - said he had not been contacted by the BBC for his response to the allegations.

The tweets by Mr Crick, who now works for Channel 4, follow an earlier one made by Iain Overton, editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism whose reporter Angus Stickler led the Newsnight investigation.

In a now deleted post, which has been retweeted 1,574 times, Mr Overton writes: "If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."

You can see how this developed .. from a former BBC political editor, backing up the Bureau of Investigative Journalism's 'revelation' (.. I understand they are an outside organisation sometimes employed by the BBC to undertake investigations the BBC commission).

Their enthusiasm to attack the 'senior political figure' .. who 'happened' to be a Conservative .. got the better of them. An inproperly-completed investigation led to the BBC reporting falsehood.

One other link about this ... from one of our tabloids. Note what it says about the Leftie Guardian columnist's own Twitter contribution ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2231226/Shame-BBC-vile-slur-says-Lord-McAlpines-brother.html

Partial quote -


BLUNDERING BBC Director General George Entwistle sensationally resigned last night over the Newsnight sex abuse fiasco.

Entwistle, boss for 54 days, said quitting was “the honourable thing”. He admitted being in the dark over a paedophile slur on a Tory peer.

The Corporation’s chief fell on his sword after a day of mounting pressure.

Entwistle had been ridiculed after admitting he only knew of a Newsnight report wrongly implicating former Tory treasurer Lord McAlpine as a child abuser the day AFTER it was broadcast.

Entwistle, 50, made his dramatic resignation statement outside Broadcasting House in London.

With BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten at his side, he said: “I have decided that the honourable thing to do is step down.

“When appointed to the role I was confident the trustees had chosen the best person for the post. However, the wholly exceptional events of the past few weeks have led me to conclude the BBC should appoint a new leader.

“While there is understandable public concern which I am confident will be addressed by the review process, we should not lose the fact that the BBC is full of people of the highest integrity. That is what will continue to make it the finest broadcaster in the world.”

Entwistle spoke immediately after sending virtually the same farewell message to BBC staff by email.

He will be replaced temporarily by Tim Davie, the current director of audio and music, who was due to take over as chief executive of the Corporation’s commercial arm BBC Worldwide.

Entwistle — already reeling from a mauling by MPs over the Jimmy Savile “cover-up” scandal — was toppled by Newsnight’s Lord McAlpine fiasco. The Director General said he was not alerted to “trailers” on Twitter promising a report on the BBC2 show about a senior Tory from the Thatcher era. And he revealed he was unaware of newspaper coverage casting doubt on the accusations.

The BBC apologised on Friday night after Steve Messham, a victim quizzed by Newsnight, admitted he wrongly identified Lord McAlpine as the man who abused him at a Wrexham children’s home in the 1970s.

Newsnight did not name Lord McAlpine but he said he will sue the BBC because it led to him being identified on the internet.

The Guardian named the peer in a story saying he was the victim of mistaken identity — AFTER its columnist George Monbiot repeatedly named him on Twitter. He has apologised.

Entwistle — who was also the BBC’s editor in chief — said before he quit that the Newsnight film was unacceptable and should never have been broadcast. He banned Newsnight investigations for the forseeable future and ordered a report on the shambles from BBC Scotland director Ken MacQuarrie.

But Entwistle’s fate was sealed after John Humphrys tore him to shreds on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

Asked when he first heard of the Newsnight report, Entwistle said: “I found out about the film the following day.”

Asked why he had not seen it on November 2 when it aired, he replied: “I was out.”

And he had not read media coverage of the growing row on Friday as he was “giving a speech”.

Lord Patten — previously criticised for reacting too slowly to the Savile scandal — also came under fire for appointing Entwistle ....

The BBC has been desperate to show itself - despite the evidence - as an impartial news-conveyor. The result was attacking journalism that threw out their head man .. reminisecent of a pack of wolves attacking their own as prey. John Humphreys is Radio 4's most 'hostile' interviewer ...

[Drummond]

Sorry. See my previous post.

The link I offered - though interesting in itself - was not the source of the quote 'from a tabloid'. The link I MEANT to add, was ...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4638007/George-Entwistle-quits-as-BBC-chief.html

[Abbey Marie]

Not like a person commuting suicide lol, rather journalistic suicide.

They basically spent the whole program taking about how stupid/disgraceful/amateur they were, and published a statement saying all current investigations are being suspended.

And the show closed with the host saying "Newsnight will be back on Monday, probably."

Thank goodnes! That would be so disturbing.

And I thought we had a revisit of the movie Network.

[Kathianne]

Drummond, it's been awhile. Thought you'd appreciate this:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/uk-police-jimmy-savile-suspect-199-crimes


<header> UK police: Jimmy Savile is suspect in 199 crimes By SYLVIA HUI (http://bigstory.ap.org/author/sylvia-hui)


— Dec. 12 4:50 PM EST

LONDON (AP) — The late BBC entertainer Jimmy Savile is a suspect in 199 crimes recorded so far, including dozens of cases of rape, British police said Wednesday. They described the level of sexual abuse allegations against Savile as "unprecedented in the U.K."


The accusations against Savile, who died last year at age 84, grew after five women said during a TV program broadcast in October that they had been sexually abused by the presenter. The claims triggered a scandal that rocked the BBC, which has been accused of failing to report allegations against Savile while making shows praising him.


Police said they are putting together a report on Savile's activities based on the alleged victims' evidence, expected to be published early next year. On Wednesday, police published an update on the probe with the following details:


—199 crimes have been recorded in 17 police jurisdictions in which Savile is a suspect.


—31 rape allegations have been recorded against the disgraced children's television presenter.


—450 people have come forward with information relating to Savile, mainly alleging sexual abuse.


—Some 140 other people also have reported information relating to Savile acting with others, or others acting alone.

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[Robert A Whit]

I wonder why they don't dig him up and let his victims spit on him?