Obama did this...

[jimnyc]

It speaks for itself, and remember, these are the countries chanting "Death to America" and one of them killed our Ambassador...

http://i.imgur.com/3Fl8C.jpg

[sundaydriver]

Actually Obama did not do this, it was started decades ago. It is continuing to exist under his administration for the two largest recipients of our foreign aid as it has for many administrations to come. If you look at what our aid money buys for these two countries it's ~90% US weapons and contracts for our defence industries. No Congress or Senate will piss off those contributors by stopping or downsizing it. If we actually invested that money towards bettering the lives via economies of those countries we may not be in the situation we find ourselves.

[glockmail]

So the POTUS lacks the authority to stop these payments?

[sundaydriver]

Are you gonna back that question up with a Ford 4.6?

[glockmail]

Mine's a 4.0, Cologne V6. Please answer the question now.

[jimnyc]

Actually Obama did not do this, it was started decades ago. It is continuing to exist under his administration for the two largest recipients of our foreign aid as it has for many administrations to come. If you look at what our aid money buys for these two countries it's ~90% US weapons and contracts for our defence industries. No Congress or Senate will piss off those contributors by stopping or downsizing it. If we actually invested that money towards bettering the lives via economies of those countries we may not be in the situation we find ourselves.

He did not receive congressional approval and it was in no budget I am aware of. We were threatened indirectly by the Muslim brotherhood if we didn't give them money, and Obama gave them a few billion unilaterally. He also cut 23 billion from the defense budget without congress involved. Might as well fire every single senator and congressperson if the President has the authority to do whatever he pleases with funding.

[sundaydriver]

Yes Egypt still wants the money that has been coming their way for decades and has been beligerent about it. The President does sign off on this but that is not where it originates from and those that can stop it or set how it it spent will not do so as as been proven before and will be proven again if pushed to.

[glockmail]

He did not receive congressional approval and it was in no budget I am aware of. We were threatened indirectly by the Muslim brotherhood if we didn't give them money, and Obama gave them a few billion unilaterally. He also cut 23 billion from the defense budget without congress involved. Might as well fire every single senator and congressperson if the President has the authority to do whatever he pleases with funding.

If he wasn't black these would all be grounds for impeachment.

[jimnyc]

Yes Egypt still wants the money that has been coming their way for decades and has been beligerent about it. The President does sign off on this but that is not where it originates from and those that can stop it or set how it it spent will not do so as as been proven before and will be proven again if pushed to.

What about congressional approval? Don't they have a say in budgetary decisions anymore? Or is it because the Dems can't seem to get their act together, that makes it ok for Obama to make solo decisions that HE thinks is best, bypassing congress?

[sundaydriver]

(http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/23/senate-overwhelmingly-rejects-foreign-aid-cuts-for-egypt-libya-and-pakistan//lixzz27XCmzxbI)Senate overwhelmingly rejects foreign aid cuts for Egypt, Libya and Pakistan (http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/23/senate-overwhelmingly-rejects-foreign-aid-cuts-for-egypt-libya-and-pakistan/)



http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/23/senate-overwhelmingly-rejects-foreign-aid-cuts-for-egypt-libya-and-pakistan/#ixzz27XCmzxbI (http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/23/senate-overwhelmingly-rejects-foreign-aid-cuts-for-egypt-libya-and-pakistan//lixzz27XCmzxbI)

[jimnyc]

I'm unsure why you think larger letters make your point any better, they just remind me of someone with a disability, personally. At any rate, look at the date of your article, this crap has been going on for 3 years now without a budget. I assure you, if you take the time to do the research, Obama has been making tons of financial decisions without congressional approval. And lets not forget billions of dollars in cuts as well, also without congressional approval. If you have no issue with this, that's your choice, I prefer our country to be run exactly the way it's supposed to, and not allow a President to make power grabs in any sense.

[jimnyc]

I'll leave my links in regular size:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/03/21/obama-bypasses-congress-gives-1-5-billion-to-muslim-brotherhood

http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/10/president-obama-instructed-aides-to-spend-money-without-congressional-authorization/

Not budgetary, but sure as hell was a lot of money without approval - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51687.html

That was a 3 second search, I'm not going to spend an hour proving something I know as fact, that anyone else can go to Google and search for the rest themselves.

[gabosaurus]

Isn't this merely a continuation of foreign aid extended through previous administrations?

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL32260.pdf

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If he wasn't black these would all be grounds for impeachment.

He has been guilty of treason several times before. He has protection from treason charges . Its the dem party and the sold out media..
You are right, his sorry , corrupt traitorous ass would have been in court on charges by now if he were a white man!-Tyr

[jimnyc]

Isn't this merely a continuation of foreign aid extended through previous administrations?

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL32260.pdf

Yep, a continuation of things that get passed through and are a part of the yearly budget. Defense spending is a given and something continued since 1776 likely, but we still create a budget and get congressional approval. And lastly, it was under former leadership, and it wasn't being given to an Islamic group stating that if we didn't give it to them, that they might attack Israel as retaliation. Sounds a tad like extortion to me, and our CIC fell for it, and gave them the money.

[gabosaurus]

Yep, a continuation of things that get passed through and are a part of the yearly budget. Defense spending is a given and something continued since 1776 likely, but we still create a budget and get congressional approval. And lastly, it was under former leadership, and it wasn't being given to an Islamic group stating that if we didn't give it to them, that they might attack Israel as retaliation. Sounds a tad like extortion to me, and our CIC fell for it, and gave them the money.

So what is with all the U.S. aid that has been given to Saudi Arabia over the last decade? We have given aid to Arab countries for decades. This isn't something that started with Obama.
I think you are grasping for straws.

[jimnyc]

So what is with all the U.S. aid that has been given to Saudi Arabia over the last decade? We have given aid to Arab countries for decades. This isn't something that started with Obama.
I think you are grasping for straws.

My last post and I'm done with you. I DON'T CARE WHO WE SEND MONEY TO, BUT WHOEVER WE SEND IT TO WE SHOULD HAVE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. It's NOT about sending aid, but about bypassing congress so many times as he has.

[gabosaurus]

Have previous presidents obtained Congressional approval?