Homosexuality Now, Pedophilia Next

[glockmail]

More evidence:


Corey Thomas Gallisdorfer, 20, was sentenced to 15 years and eight months in prison in U.S. District Court in Greensboro. U.S. District Judge William Osteen Jr. also ordered Gallisdorfer to be placed on supervised release for 25 years when he gets out of prison, according to Lynne Klauer, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney General's Office in the Middle District of North Carolina. He also will have to register as a sex offender when released. Gallisdorfer pleaded guilty in January to federal counts of production of child pornography and online enticement. He was accused of posing as a teenage girl online to persuade teenage boys in Georgia and North Carolina to send him sexually explicit photographs of themselves. Federal prosecutors say he used at least eight female aliases, including one called "swimmerchick," to communicate online with teenage boys.

http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012/sep/12/2/former-unc-chapel-hill-student-from-lewisville-get-ar-2601830/

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

More evidence:

http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012/sep/12/2/former-unc-chapel-hill-student-from-lewisville-get-ar-2601830/

Sure, they are always remorseful after getting caught! When he gets out he will do worse, count on it..
Should have gotten 50 years with no parole.-Tyr

[glockmail]

Why can't the queers keep away from the kids?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Why can't the queers keep away from the kids?

Theyzz bez queers, nothing good about them. ffed up brains.. When they as adults proposition a child they should be hung up in the nearest tree is my take. Why wait until after they have ruined an innocent kid or even worse molested then killed one!??-Tyr

[gabosaurus]

Why can't the queers keep away from the kids?

I wonder the same thing about Catholic Priests.

[DragonStryk72]

More evidence:

http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012/sep/12/2/former-unc-chapel-hill-student-from-lewisville-get-ar-2601830/

Um, what, evidence that we should get rid of the internet? See, I can take the crazy alarmist position as well.

One does not prove the other. First Heterosexuality, then Pedophilia. How much "evidence" like yours do you think I could come up with to support my case, Glock? Yeah, this isn't evidence, it's only proof that this guy is a suck fuck who needs a bullet in the brainpan.

[glockmail]

Um, what, evidence that we should get rid of the internet? See, I can take the crazy alarmist position as well.

One does not prove the other. First Heterosexuality, then Pedophilia. How much "evidence" like yours do you think I could come up with to support my case, Glock? Yeah, this isn't evidence, it's only proof that this guy is a suck fuck who needs a bullet in the brainpan.

Do you know the difference between evidence and proof? :slap:

[Abbey Marie]

I wonder the same thing about Catholic Priests.

Nothing to wonder. The pedophile priests are gay.

[DragonStryk72]

Do you know the difference between evidence and proof? :slap:

It's neither proof nor evidence, or again, do you require me to show you a list of articles on heterosexual pedophilia? How many male teachers that mounted their underage female students? So clearly, that's proof that heterosexuality is directly causally linked to pedophilia. Or evidence, or whichever other word you want to try and spin like a top, because that is all you're doing now.

You know what is actually causally linked to pedophilia? Sexuality. Hetero, Bi, or Homo, all pedophiles have sexuality itself in common.

You are attempting to create a causal link where none exists. Whether you agree with homosexuality or not is completely irrelevant to the point that this is proof of absolutely nothing in regards to homosexuality, or pedophilia.

[gabosaurus]

Living in Wisconsin for too long leads to a sexual obsession with couches.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/man-busted-for-couch-sex-684512

Look at the sorry dude. Probably voted against the recall. :p

[logroller]

Living in Wisconsin for too long leads to a sexual obsession with couches.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/man-busted-for-couch-sex-684512

Look at the sorry dude. Probably voted against the recall. :p

"of course, you have definitive proof..." or maybe prejudice isn't unique to any ideological POV. :poke:

[taft2012]

Corey Thomas Gallisdorfer, 20, was sentenced to 15 years and eight months in prison in U.S. District Court in Greensboro. U.S. District Judge William Osteen Jr. also ordered Gallisdorfer to be placed on supervised release for 25 years when he gets out of prison,

OK, no doubt that I'm a big law & order guy, but....

This kid is 20 at the time of the sentencing, which in real-life means he may have been 19, or maybe even 18, at the time of the offense.

And he gets 15 years in prison for trolling the web for pee wee shots from other teenaged boys?

The irony here is that if he had actually had sex with these other boys, instead of just getting their photos, he might have only committed a misdemeanor which he probably wouldn't have gone to jail for at all. Most states don't have a line-in-the-sand statutory rape law, but have gray zone "sexual misconduct" laws, i.e., 18 year-old boy and 15 year-old girl, so harsh sentences aren't issued unfairly.

Fifteen years is an absurd sentence for this kid.... who is now a registered sex offender for life? This could have, and should have, been settled with community service.


How many male teachers that mounted their underage female students?

Well, that's true enough.

By lumping in the 25 year-old guys seduced by titty-jiggling 16 year-old lolitas, we balance out the 50 year-old men who yearn for the peckers of 5 year-old boys.

And so in the end it all evens out, and neither the reputations of homosexuality or heterosexuality take a hit, right?

Wrong (assuming one has any brains).

[KarlMarx]

I wonder the same thing about Catholic Priests.
Or much more often public school teachers.....

I think if you read the papers and listen to the news, teachers molest children at a much higher rate than Catholic priests ever did. I know it for a fact because hardly a month goes by that doesn't have a news story about a teacher caught molesting kids isn't in our local paper.

[logroller]

OK, no doubt that I'm a big law & order guy, but....

This kid is 20 at the time of the sentencing, which in real-life means he may have been 19, or maybe even 18, at the time of the offense.

And he gets 15 years in prison for trolling the web for pee wee shots from other teenaged boys?

The irony here is that if he had actually had sex with these other boys, instead of just getting their photos, he might have only committed a misdemeanor which he probably wouldn't have gone to jail for at all. Most states don't have a line-in-the-sand statutory rape law, but have gray zone "sexual misconduct" laws, i.e., 18 year-old boy and 15 year-old girl, so harsh sentences aren't issued unfairly.

Fifteen years is an absurd sentence for this kid.... who is now a registered sex offender for life? This could have, and should have, been settled with community service.

I understand what you're saying, but consider the circumstances
A- its gross misrepresentation,
B- there are children involved,
C- its sexual and
D- it was distributed.

I'm sure you're aware of the legalities surrounding aggravating circumstance. Were this a case of statutory rape, gay or not, that'd only be two of those circumstances. So naturally, that'd receive a lesser sentence. Say if that stat rape case involved drugging the minor and gang raping him, those circumstances would be dealt with more harshly as well.

[glockmail]

It's neither proof nor evidence, or again, do you require me to show you a list of articles on heterosexual pedophilia? How many male teachers that mounted their underage female students? So clearly, that's proof that heterosexuality is directly causally linked to pedophilia. Or evidence, or whichever other word you want to try and spin like a top, because that is all you're doing now.

You know what is actually causally linked to pedophilia? Sexuality. Hetero, Bi, or Homo, all pedophiles have sexuality itself in common.

You are attempting to create a causal link where none exists. Whether you agree with homosexuality or not is completely irrelevant to the point that this is proof of absolutely nothing in regards to homosexuality, or pedophilia.

Can you understand the concept of proportionality?

[gabosaurus]

Can you understand the concept of proportionality?

Explain the concept of proportionality for us. Be precise. This is a test.

[tailfins]

Living in Wisconsin for too long leads to a sexual obsession with couches.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/man-busted-for-couch-sex-684512

Look at the sorry dude. Probably voted against the recall. :p

In New York that would be a street performer with a tip bucket at the foot of the couch.

[gabosaurus]

In New York that would be a street performer with a tip bucket at the foot of the couch.

Exactly. :laugh:

[glockmail]

Explain the concept of proportionality for us. Be precise. This is a test.So you don't understand it. I didn't think so. :lol:



homosexuals “sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls. …”

...non-incarcerated “child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.”

"...data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.”
Why don't you hear this in the regular news?


...The National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA) recently boasted that although homosexuals are less than two percent of the population, three-fourths of the people who decide the content of the front page of the New York Times are homosexual...


http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/#MegZqzW0TiLhCugl.99

[mundame]

Or much more often public school teachers.....

I think if you read the papers and listen to the news, teachers molest children at a much higher rate than Catholic priests ever did. I know it for a fact because hardly a month goes by that doesn't have a news story about a teacher caught molesting kids isn't in our local paper.


Right. It's a constant in our county bi-weekly and has been for the 35 years I've been reading it. There are far more of this amazing number of sex predator male teachers who do boys, however, than are arrested for sexing up girls.

It's something about homosexuality. There are far fewer of them, but large proportions of them go after boys. I think it's a need to procreate: seducing boys into a homosexual way of life, after all, is the only way they have to generate sex fodder for their vice.

[aboutime]

So you don't understand it. I didn't think so. :lol:


glockmail. Another typical, liberal talking point from gabby, used to hide her own lack of knowledge by accusing others of being DUMBER than she is.

Nothing new. Standard DNC, rehearsed practice often used to avoid answering questions, and attempting to reverse the direction of the conversation to prevent showing Massive Stupidity on the speakers part.

[DragonStryk72]

Can you understand the concept of proportionality?

Doesn't matter. You're using the term as a smokescreen, which is why you wouldn't define it. As to Taft, what of the 50 year old men who want 5 year old girls? Why do you give them a pass? The sick bastards certainly exist, so why do you not acknowledge them?

[taft2012]

Doesn't matter. You're using the term as a smokescreen, which is why you wouldn't define it. As to Taft, what of the 50 year old men who want 5 year old girls? Why do you give them a pass? The sick bastards certainly exist, so why do you not acknowledge them?

Who said I'm giving them "a pass"?

What I'm saying is the numbers of "heterosexual pedophiles" is skewed by the line in the sand drawn by the laws. So the figures will include a 19 year-old guy who has a 15 year-old girlfriend. I'm sure you would agree that is the far more prevalent "heterosexual pedophile" scenario than the 50 year-old guy with the 5 year-old girl.

Do you think society protects a gay 16 year-old boy seduced by an older man the same way it protects a straight 16 year-old girl seduced by an older man? I don't think society sees an equivalency at all, mainly because the gay community wouldn't want it to. Heck, society is more outraged these days at women aged 20-something seducing straight teenaged boys.

[glockmail]

Doesn't matter. You're using the term as a smokescreen, which is why you wouldn't define it. ... I won't define it because I'm not your high school math teacher. Here's clue:

Queers molest kids at a much higher rates than the hetero population. See post 21.

[bingster]

Why can't the queers keep away from the kids?

Actually, all of the studies say pedophiles are usually heterosexual.

[bingster]

Ann Landers (1) (http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html#refs) says the statement “Homosexuals are more inclined to molest children sexually than heterosexuals” is false. The American Psychological Association has sponsored a work that asserts: “Recognized researchers in the field on child abuse,… almost unanimously concur that homosexual people are actually less likely to approach children sexually.” (2) (http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html#refs)
Why is it, then, that we read about sex between boys and men in every newspaper? Does it merely reflect sensationalist journalism? We know that heterosexual molestation also occurs. But since there are so many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, which kind of child molestation – homosexual or heterosexual – is proportionately more common?

Public perception: Probably the majority of adults in North America incorrectly believe that there is a high degree of pedophilia within the adult homosexual community. Such activity had been legally permitted in ancient times. Within the Roman Empire of the 1st century CE, many boys or young men (called "catamites") were kept as under-aged prostitutes by older men. They were usually slaves. A number of passages in the Christian Scriptures (http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibc1.htm#corin) seem to refer to this practice. However, when the books of Romans, 1 Corinthians and Jude were translated into English, the original meaning was lost. Translators changed the text to direct condemnation against all homosexual activity and all extra-marital and pre-marital sexual behavior. Belief that gays frequently abuse children is believed to be responsible for widespread opposition to gay teachers in the public school system. A study found that in 1977, only 27% of adult Americans would want to allow gays to be teachers in elementary schools. This has risen to 41% by 1992, and continues to rise. 1

[bingster]

With the limited web search I just did I found a common denominator with all of the studies that furthers what seems to me to be a myth that homosexuals are most likely to be pedophiles: they are all from Christian or conservative organizations.

What About Claims That Scientific Research Proves Gay Men Are Likely To Molest Children? Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled Homosexuality and Child Abuse (http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3).
With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" – doesn't hold up.
In the following section, the main sources cited by Dailey and the FRC to support their claim are reviewed. The papers are listed in the same order in which they are first cited by the FRC article.

-That except was from UC Davis

[bingster]

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“Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture,” wrote Steve Baldwin in, “Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement,” soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/#498qTJbB4LTlDAB6.99

This link from Glockmail is referring to a Christian university and from what seems like a conservative site. Without casting aspersions on anyone, I'm not going to trust a "scientific" study written by someone who thinks the earth is only 6000 years old. Not to mention, trusting a study by a Christian university about homosexuality is like trusting a liberal's opinion of a conservative (or visa verse).

[Robert A Whit]

More evidence:



Corey Thomas Gallisdorfer, 20, was sentenced to 15 years and eight months in prison in U.S. District Court in Greensboro. U.S. District Judge William Osteen Jr. also ordered Gallisdorfer to be placed on supervised release for 25 years when he gets out of prison, according to Lynne Klauer, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney General's Office in the Middle District of North Carolina. He also will have to register as a sex offender when released. Gallisdorfer pleaded guilty in January to federal counts of production of child pornography and online enticement. He was accused of posing as a teenage girl online to persuade teenage boys in Georgia and North Carolina to send him sexually explicit photographs of themselves. Federal prosecutors say he used at least eight female aliases, including one called "swimmerchick," to communicate online with teenage boys.



http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012...et-ar-2601830/ (http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012/sep/12/2/former-unc-chapel-hill-student-from-lewisville-get-ar-2601830/)

Then I call your attention to the famous Bernie Ward. A hard core Democrat who backs Obama from prison in CA who only got 7 years for being a child porn merchant.

Bernie can be studied on Wikipedia. He hosted a radio show on KGO (ABC) radio in the SF Bay Area called God Talk. And he claimed to be Catholic. Yet as much an expert on religion as he clearly is, he still is spending time behind bars.

[Robert A Whit]

Bingster seems a bit anxious to defend homosexuals and pedophiles if I am getting him right.

[bingster]

Bingster seems a bit anxious to defend homosexuals and pedophiles if I am getting him right.

Half right. I'm contesting the connection between the two as validated in the post I cited. I'm posting now, because I sensed I may be blamed for being slightly divisive in my post. I was raised on the liberal platform. Not being an unquestioning ideologue ("ditto head" for Limbaugh followers), I've always strengthened my beliefs with a steady diet of reading unbiased history and questioning all biased news sources. In fact, I watch the biased news sources (Fox and MSNBC) and read both parties websites to challenge and research the validity of my own beliefs. I want to know what the other side is saying and know why they are saying it to make a value judgement which side it correct.

I read that most posts on this thread connect homosexuality with pedophilia. I dispute the connection and challenge all posters to provide me with something unbiased to prove their point of view. It needs to be non-Christian or non-Morman, non-conservative, and truly scientific.

Or, you can keep making fun of me. Your choice. :)

[mundame]

Queers molest kids at a much higher rates than the hetero population. See post 21.


That's the whole thing. How can any sane person view homosexuals as "just like anyone else" given that they go after small boys and underage male teens at such a disproportionately high rate? There is just something wrong with people who prey on children. And if more homos do it than anyone else, well, that's pretty terrible.

[glockmail]

Actually, all of the studies say pedophiles are usually heterosexual.

All of your studies assume that a man buggering a boy is not a homosexual. :slap: