Can not give away fre food to needy kids-Nanny state rules!!!!!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://specials.msn.com/a-list/lifestyle/philadelphia-woman-free-lunches-fine-popular-pages

Search: Woman faces fines for helping needy kids
A Pennsylvania woman is being warned that she will have to pay a big fine (how much?) if she continues to give free lunches to low-income children in her neighborhood. Angela Prattis says she donates her time to give away the food (which religious group helps supply her?), which she says feeds about 60 kids a day. Town leaders, however, say Prattis is not allowed to give away free food – because she needs to get permission first (from whom?).

This is what libs, socialists ,leftists and obama type control freaks want to engineer all over. Nothing will be done without state approval first! Such absolute control is nothing more than slavery to the ORDER. SLAVERY is stilll SLAVERY NO MATTER THE MASTER!!
Imagine being told that you can not give away something!!!????--TYR

[Thunderknuckles]

Here's a little more informative article:
http://oddepia.blogspot.com/2012/08/philadelphia-woman-free-lunches-fine.html

The food is being supplied to her by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia. At this point there is a clear pattern with government having a problem with Christians feeding the needy for free.
Government can't have good people doing good things for anyone unless the government has a hand in it. And by having a hand in it, I mean placing a tax or fee on such good deeds.
In the case of the woman in the article above. All she has to do is pay a $1,000 fee to the government and she will no longer be hassled. It should be mentioned that the per-capita income in her town is a meager $19,000 a year.

On a final note:
The whole thing was initially reported to the authorities by one of her neighbors.
A-hole!

[Kathianne]

This is what libs, socialists ,leftists and obama type control freaks want to engineer all over. Nothing will be done without state approval first! Such absolute control is nothing more than slavery to the ORDER. SLAVERY is stilll SLAVERY NO MATTER THE MASTER!!
Imagine being told that you can not give away something!!!????--TYR

More information:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/14/philadelphia-woman-faces-600-day-fine-for-feeding-needy-neighborhood-kids/


...Chester Township, which has a per capita income of $19,000 a year, says Prattis lives in a residential zone, hence handing out food to children is not allowed. The township says she needs to go before a zoning board to ask for a variance, which would cost her up to $1,000 in administrative fees.


"I don't think it's my responsibility to go to her to say, 'why don’t you come to talk to me to see if there’s something that we can do to help your program,'" William Pisarek, the Chester Township business manager, said.


Prattis told The Delaware County Times that she is not going to stop feeding the children in the area.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/14/philadelphia-woman-faces-600-day-fine-for-feeding-needy-neighborhood-kids/#ixzz23elMX6ES



It now seems the township won't fine her, but insists she needs the variance, that still costs, $1k:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/angela-prattis-philadelphia-free-lunch_n_1778784.html?ir=Education


...“Nobody's against the program,” Township Manager William Piserik, told the news outlet, “but folks don't want the program set up in the lady's front driveway."


After heeding to media pressure, the township withdrew the fines, but it’s still insisting that Prattis cough up the funds for the variance, a steep expense she can’t afford, and believes shouldn’t apply to her. The do-gooder told delcotimes.com that she believes she should be exempt from such zoning laws (http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2012/08/14/news/doc5029caaab5f38185662919.txt) because she isn’t cooking or selling food.


“We’re talking about children,” (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Free-Lunch-Lady-Could-Face-600-Fine--166037136.html) Prattis told NBC 10. “Children. “It’s unbelievable. They’ve never once said anything to me in reference to what to do to be in the right standing with the township.”


Gratis meal programs like Prattis’ are critical during the summer months when 21 million children are at risk for hunger (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kim-doyle-wille/post_3275_b_1471441.html) once they lose out on their free breakfast and lunch at school.


However, Prattis refuses to give up on her mission. She plans on attending the next Chester Township Council meeting and she will continue serving the kids that need her services (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Free-Lunch-Lady-Could-Face-600-Fine--166037136.html), NBC 10 reports. ...

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Here's a little more informative article:
http://oddepia.blogspot.com/2012/08/philadelphia-woman-free-lunches-fine.html

The food is being supplied to her by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia. At this point there is a clear pattern with government having a problem with Christians feeding the needy for free.
Government can't have good people doing good things for anyone unless the government has a hand in it. And by having a hand in it, I mean placing a tax or fee on such good deeds.
In the case of the woman in the article above. All she has to do is pay a $1,000 fee to the government and she will no longer be hassled. It should be mentioned that the per-capita income in her town is a meager $19,000 a year.

On a final note:
The whole thing was initially reported to the authorities by one of her neighbors.
A-hole!

Just another example of the socialist big government type of power sought by obama and his agenda. The citizen relegated to third world status and must pay for the privilege to give something away!! Nanny state in all its glory..
Obama gets a second term the havoc he will wreck and power he will take for big government will make this look like a walk in the park on a nice sunny day..

Taxed for not buying something! And now fined for giving away something!!! Anybody see a pattern here!??? Nothing allowed unless big government says so!!--Tyr

[Thunderknuckles]

Tax, fee, fine, or variance.
It's all the same to me.

[Thunderknuckles]

Taxed for not buying something! And now fined for giving away something!!!
I'll hand it to you there Tyr. That's a remarkable observation of the current state of our Union.

[aboutime]

I'll hand it to you there Tyr. That's a remarkable observation of the current state of our Union.


It's all part of the Intent of Marxism, Communism and Socialism. Government MUST have ALL control over everything. The People are not permitted to FEND FOR THEMSELVES. Much like Obama's Health Care CRAP. When govt. controls the Medicine. They control everything else too!
What the DUMB people who love Obama MUST NEVER BE TOLD is.. If they stray from being Dependent upon everything from obama and the dems. The Power naturally goes back to where it is supposed to be...WITH THE PEOPLE.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'll hand it to you there Tyr. That's a remarkable observation of the current state of our Union.

The sad part is that it is so true and clealy reveals that they plan on shafting you coming or going! Americans are in a sad state of blindness for NOT seeing this for what it is! A government sanctioned slavery by way of czar making, power grabbing, laws /regulations creating and the highly ,godlike obama Executive orders..
No chains needed , slavery a certainty..Coming soon to a neighborhood near you, thank the liberals later.. ..-Tyr

[Kathianne]

It's all part of the Intent of Marxism, Communism and Socialism. Government MUST have ALL control over everything. The People are not permitted to FEND FOR THEMSELVES. Much like Obama's Health Care CRAP. When govt. controls the Medicine. They control everything else too!
What the DUMB people who love Obama MUST NEVER BE TOLD is.. If they stray from being Dependent upon everything from obama and the dems. The Power naturally goes back to where it is supposed to be...WITH THE PEOPLE.

Actually, this is about the local government putting the squeeze on a private charity working through an individual to help children who cannot 'fend for themselves.' One may argue that the parents of said children already have EBT for food and cash, but again, that's not the issue.

Private charities are providing the meals, likely under the auspices of food & safety inspectors. This woman is distributing those meals. No money involved for her or the recipients. But, the township wants 'theirs.'

[Shadow]

This is what libs, socialists ,leftists and obama type control freaks want to engineer all over. Nothing will be done without state approval first! Such absolute control is nothing more than slavery to the ORDER. SLAVERY is stilll SLAVERY NO MATTER THE MASTER!!
Imagine being told that you can not give away something!!!????--TYR

So...just who is going to feed these kids when to gov shuts this woman down?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

So...just who is going to feed these kids when to gov shuts this woman down?

THOSE GREEDY BASTARDS DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THAT!
5 TO 1 SAYS THEY ARE LIB/DEMS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THERE DOING THIS CRAP!-Tyr

[Kathianne]

So...just who is going to feed these kids when to gov shuts this woman down?

Seriously? As I said on earlier post, very much doubt that mom/parents don't have EBT and WIC. Programs like this, private, allow those committed parents to spend their 'gov't bucks' better. Of course, some may not be feeding their kids, which is an assumption in this type of private program.

[gabosaurus]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.

[Kathianne]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.

No one wants kids to go without food. In this case, a private group stepped up.

[Thunderknuckles]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.
No, Paul Ryan would +REP all of us.... except you :p

[fj1200]

Or... now stay with me here... BO and the communist/socialist/Marxist nabobs have nothing to do with the administrative hi-jinks of a local municipality and it's a matter of local administrators running amok and are just being silly in enforcing their local ordinances and zoning.


Nah, forget it. Just a crazy thought. :rolleyes:

[Voted4Reagan]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.

No he wouldn't... I bet he'd be just as outraged that BIG GOVERNMENT is not allowing a good woman to feed Hungry Children.

BTW...You are aware that the City Council and almost all the sitting Reps in the Philly Area are LIBERAL DEMOCRATS... NOT REPUBLICANS.

Funny to see how it's Liberals keeping food out of the mouths of Hungry Kids.

Which they often accuse Conservatives of... but have never Proven...

Maybe you should get your bleeding heart to Philly and Protest the Government doing this...

Nah... you wont.... you're such a dyed in the wool liberal flunky that you never question your Liberal Government...

You just nod your head and go along with it while reciting the party line...

What a hypocrite you are Gabby.....

[logroller]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.
technically, this is a private assistance program-- so there you go.

Or... now stay with me here... BO and the communist/socialist/Marxist nabobs have nothing to do with the administrative hi-jinks of a local municipality and it's a matter of local administrators running amok and are just being silly in enforcing their local ordinances and zoning.


Nah, forget it. Just a crazy thought. :rolleyes:

Id say the argument would be the govt, et al, hates competition. But you're right, regardless of how pervasive the so-called nanny-state has become, this is a local issue that, in accordance with a republican form of government, affords the affected a local forum to address the grievance.
I understand the spirit of the law, that in a residential neighborhood residents may not want a soup kitchen; thus, a variance would afford the residents public comment on the matter. This is a foundational aspect of administrative law and this is a good thing. Given the public benefit, however, the associated administrative fees ($1000) would seem excessively burdensome, and I would think a waiver would be warranted. Of course, one must petition for such a waiver.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

No he wouldn't... I bet he'd be just as outraged that BIG GOVERNMENT is not allowing a good woman to feed Hungry Children.

BTW...You are aware that the City Council and almost all the sitting Reps in the Philly Area are LIBERAL DEMOCRATS... NOT REPUBLICANS.

Funny to see how it's Liberals keeping food out of the mouths of Hungry Kids.

Which they often accuse Conservatives of... but have never Proven...

Maybe you should get your bleeding heart to Philly and Protest the Government doing this...

Nah... you wont.... you're such a dyed in the wool liberal flunky that you never question your Liberal Government...

You just nod your head and go along with it while reciting the party line...

What a hypocrite you are Gabby.....

Because its local government doing this they try to declare its nothing to do with big government nanny state agenda as if big government and its agenda does not have authority, influence and direct power within local government especially so when its being ran by lib/dems there. Hell , up until obama came in our President wasnt notified of every gun related shooting incident as if each were a national matter! Its his support and anti-gun nanny state agenda being fostered and promoted by media the third arm of the traitorous soldout dem party. People need to get a damn clue , we are under attack by our own damn government! At least the patriots are and thats all that matters for its patriots that can and will save this great nation if it is to be saved at all. Nanny statism regardless of what level its being conducted at must be stopped. Individual freedom must be promoted again instead of this let the STATE run every damn thing insanity.--Tyr

[fj1200]

Id say...

Pshaw, your rational thought has no place here. BO is evil and he has infiltrated... WTF is the name of this podunk town?... and is spreading his domination down to every zoning board and ad-hoc park committee in the country.

[fj1200]

... up until obama came in our President wasnt notified of every gun related shooting incident as if each were a national matter! Its his support and anti-gun agenda...

So, this thread isn't about free food and well-intentioned citizens anymore?

[logroller]

Because its local government doing this they try to declare its nothing to do with big government nanny state agenda as if big government and its agenda does not have authority, influence and direct power within local government especially so when its being ran by lib/dems there. Hell , up until obama came in our President wasnt notified of every gun related shooting incident as if each were a national matter! Its his support and anti-gun agenda being fostered and promoted by media the third arm of the traitorous soldout dem party. People need to get a damn clue , we are under attack by our own damn government! At least the patriots are and thats all that matters for its patriots that can and will save this great nation if it is to be saved at all.--Tyr
Non sequitur...zoning laws =/= gun control agenda.

[logroller]

Pshaw, your rational thought has no place here. BO is evil and he has infiltrated... WTF is the name of this podunk town?... and is spreading his domination down to every zoning board and ad-hoc park committee in the country.
Give me time; I'm building up to an agenda 21 argument. ;)

[fj1200]

Give me time; I'm building up to an agenda 21 argument. ;)

:laugh: I almost put one in a few posts back.

[Abbey Marie]

This is a Philly story and somewhat local for me. If you see it on the news, you can see that the woman set up tables on the sidewalk to feed these kids. I think that is where she went wrong, zoning-wise. A neighbor complained. If I'm being honest, I wouldn't want that on my sidewalk every day either. There is a reason we have residential zoning. Take it inside. The food will be the same.

By the way, as far the kids being needy, they all looked very healthy and well-fed to me. And one guy said he brought his sister "just in case she was feeling a little peckish". Not exactly a hunger situation in that case, anyway.

[PostmodernProphet]

our church was offering free hamburgers and hot dogs every Sunday evening in our parking lot to anyone in the neighborhood......we received a letter from the county Health Commission requiring us to stop advertising it......we could bring people with us but not invite them to come....

[logroller]

our church was offering free hamburgers and hot dogs every Sunday evening in our parking lot to anyone in the neighborhood......we received a letter from the county Health Commission requiring us to stop advertising it......we could bring people with us but not invite them to come....
What was their reasoning?

[DragonStryk72]

And here I thought conservatives were against public assistance.
Why do you people care about how poor people get fed? Let them go get jobs!
Paul Ryan would be disgusted with this thread.

Despite the sheer width and breadth of times we've told you precisely the opposite? We're very much in favor of helping the folks who need it, we just don't think it's the government's job. And the OP is proof of one of the reasons why. Government is red tape, and can easily hinder or outright stop the exact type of outreach they should be striving for. Who do you believe we're talking about when we say that private charities can do the job better than government?

Change the record, Gabs. You repeat the same old line here that you have a thousand times, with absolutely no learning on the issue, and refusing any new knowledge given.

[fj1200]

By the way, as far the kids being needy, they all looked very healthy and well-fed to me. And one guy said he brought his sister "just in case she was feeling a little peckish". Not exactly a hunger situation in that case, anyway.

Exactly, the truly needy do not go around using the word "peckish." :poke:

[Voted4Reagan]

Despite the sheer width and breadth of times we've told you precisely the opposite? We're very much in favor of helping the folks who need it, we just don't think it's the government's job. And the OP is proof of one of the reasons why. Government is red tape, and can easily hinder or outright stop the exact type of outreach they should be striving for. Who do you believe we're talking about when we say that private charities can do the job better than government?

Change the record, Gabs. You repeat the same old line here that you have a thousand times, with absolutely no learning on the issue, and refusing any new knowledge given.

But Dragon....She's supposedly SMARTER then us.... according to her own proclamation.

[PostmodernProphet]

What was their reasoning?

we weren't licensed to offer food to the public.....

[logroller]

we weren't licensed to offer food to the public.....
Do you disagree with that?

[PostmodernProphet]

Do you disagree with that?

I suppose the argument is sustainable in a sort of "long stick up your asshole" sort of way......I doubt very much the local fire department gets a license for its annual pig roast, however.....

[logroller]

I suppose the argument is sustainable in a sort of "long stick up your asshole" sort of way......I doubt very much the local fire department gets a license for its annual pig roast, however.....

The county food laws are there for your protection. Ifyou feel they are unnecessary or otherwise excessive burdensome (as a stick up one's ass would assuredly be), they are not written in stone-- change them. Easier said than done, because, like the OP, such laws exist with the blessing of the populus.

As for the fire dept's pig roast, file a complaint-- I'm quite sure that's what got the ball rolling on the free hot dogs and hamburgers...likely a business which saw a decline in Sunday lunch traffic.

[sundaydriver]

I suppose the argument is sustainable in a sort of "long stick up your asshole" sort of way......I doubt very much the local fire department gets a license for its annual pig roast, however.....

Apparently you have never been a member of a community Fire Department. For if you had been you would know that fundraising is a large part of belonging to a company. Very few companies do not have a "hall" for rent or do not serve up breakfast once a month, dinners every month or weekly bingo, besides other activities.

All facilities must meet state law standards for food service and also fall under local jurisdiction.

[taft2012]

Really such a load of crap.

The kids are getting free lunches at school... in some places free breakfast as well.

The government is giving the parents food stamps to cover other meals.... and that's still not enough? They need more free food?

How much you wanna bet those kids noshing them free sammiches are all wearing new Nikes?

[sundaydriver]

The argument here is not the decision to feed or not children by this well meaning woman or the churches that supply her.

The argument is can this woman use her home and sidewalk for any purpose other than what local zoning restrictions apply.

My home is in an area zoned as residential. If I want to start a business or any other usage other than a residence out of my home I would have to apply for a variance by township rules also with a monetary fee to apply for said variance. If it was such as my neighbor has baking specialty cakes for maybe 10 customers a week, that's fine. If I want to turn my home into something that is no longer a residence and will effect the quality of life for those that live nearby, the answer is NO!

The same as I've stated before on this board it seems that very few members ever bother themselves with giving back to their communities by service, attendance and participation at local government meetings, or events.

It's all the national politicians and local fucking nannies system fault!

[Kathianne]

The county food laws are there for your protection. Ifyou feel they are unnecessary or otherwise excessive burdensome (as a stick up one's ass would assuredly be), they are not written in stone-- change them. Easier said than done, because, like the OP, such laws exist with the blessing of the populus.

As for the fire dept's pig roast, file a complaint-- I'm quite sure that's what got the ball rolling on the free hot dogs and hamburgers...likely a business which saw a decline in Sunday lunch traffic.

This would make sense, IF it wasn't implied that she would get the 'variance' if she or someone puts up the grand for it.

[DragonStryk72]

Or... now stay with me here... BO and the communist/socialist/Marxist nabobs have nothing to do with the administrative hi-jinks of a local municipality and it's a matter of local administrators running amok and are just being silly in enforcing their local ordinances and zoning.


Nah, forget it. Just a crazy thought. :rolleyes:

What's the old saying "Never ascribe to malevolence, that which can be explained by incompetence."?

[DragonStryk72]

The county food laws are there for your protection. Ifyou feel they are unnecessary or otherwise excessive burdensome (as a stick up one's ass would assuredly be), they are not written in stone-- change them. Easier said than done, because, like the OP, such laws exist with the blessing of the populus.

As for the fire dept's pig roast, file a complaint-- I'm quite sure that's what got the ball rolling on the free hot dogs and hamburgers...likely a business which saw a decline in Sunday lunch traffic.

Actually, such laws generally exist due to the ignorance of the populace, not it's blessing. We vote only for our leaders, not for every individual mandate that comes down the pike, and most are completely unaware of the goings on, aside from what hits the news.

[Kathianne]

Notice a trend here? The higher the politician, the more the variances cost:

http://freebeacon.com/democratic-rep-caught-extorting-donations/


Democratic Rep. Caught Extorting Donations
BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff (http://freebeacon.com/author/washington-free-beacon-staff/)
<time class="entry-date" datetime="2012-08-15T17:00:41+00:00" pubdate="">August 15, 2012 5:00 pm

</time>
Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop (N.Y.) appears to have extorted a $5,000 donation from a wealthy constituent who needed help obtaining some government permits, according to Politico (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=31A7F69E-DC2A-4368-8B7F-6D04EBE3B042).


The donor, Eric Semler, had wanted to celebrate his son’s Bar Mitzvah—the time when a Jewish boy enter manhood—by shooting off some heavy duty fireworks near his home.


To help get the permits needed to launch the fireworks, Semler petitioned Bishop’s office for help, according to the report:



Bishop agreed to intercede. But before Bishop and his aides completed their work on his behalf, Semler received a request from the congressman’s campaign staff, according to documents obtained by POLITICO and multiple interviews: For a contribution of up to $10,000 to Bishop’s reelection campaign.


“Our Finance Chair, Bob Sillerman suggested to my dad that you were interested in contribution to his campaign and that I should be in touch directly with you. We are going to be in a tough, expensive campaign and so we are very grateful for your willingness to be of help,” the congressman’s daughter and fundraiser, Molly Bishop, wrote to Semler in a May 23 email, three days before the party, when it was still unknown whether the permits would come through.


“If you make a contribution before June 26th you and your wife may each contribute up to $5,000; after June 26th the most you can each contribute is $2,500,” she added.


Semler now maintains that Bishop’s staff solicited him before the permitting process was complete, a sign that the lawmaker was looking for a donation in return for his help, according to the report.
This appears to conflict with House ethical guidelines, Politico notes:



This prohibition includes campaign contributions offered to a lawmaker by a supporter, especially when a request for official action is pending or has occurred. “In a similar vein, a Member or employee may not accept any contribution that the donor links to any official action that the Member or employee has taken, or is being asked to take,” the manual adds.

[PostmodernProphet]

Apparently you have never been a member of a community Fire Department. For if you had been you would know that fundraising is a large part of belonging to a company. Very few companies do not have a "hall" for rent or do not serve up breakfast once a month, dinners every month or weekly bingo, besides other activities.

All facilities must meet state law standards for food service and also fall under local jurisdiction.

???....I live in a town of 4000 people.....our fire department does NOT have a hall for rent, does not serve up monthly meals and does not operate a food service.....

[fj1200]

What's the old saying "Never ascribe to malevolence, that which can be explained by incompetence."?

You know that we're the complete opposite here now right? ;)

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Try to point out that the Nanny state philosophy has spread all the way down to local politics and the idgit naysayers cry out" but , but its local politics"! As if that negates it being a product of the Nanny state mentality!
What the hell do these people think total control government Nanny state policies do anyways if they do not extend down to local government and influence how it acts!!?? Geeesh , talk about dense! Limiting individual freedoms by government decrees is Nanny state no matter what level it occurs at. Freaking goofy ass geniuses..-Tyr

[fj1200]

... " but , but its local politics"...

little acorn would be proud of your passive aggressive style. Your title of the thread is incorrect as it relates to the issues but that's just mere technicality right? :rolleyes:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

^^^^< what? A bite so soon, my line has barely gotten wet!
Must be a good day for fishing , eh?-:laugh:--Tyr

[fj1200]

what?

What? More worthless talk from someone who is essentially scared of opposition?

[DragonStryk72]

Try to point out that the Nanny state philosophy has spread all the way down to local politics and the idgit naysayers cry out" but , but its local politics"! As if that negates it being a product of the Nanny state mentality!
What the hell do these people think total control government Nanny state policies do anyways if they do not extend down to local government and influence how it acts!!?? Geeesh , talk about dense! Limiting individual freedoms by government decrees is Nanny state no matter what level it occurs at. Freaking goofy ass geniuses..-Tyr

Well, truthfully, the Nanny State is less about the Food Stamps end of things. I swear to you, the entire reason they're stopping this woman is a kneejerk "But what about the children?" mentality, not any broader political view. Basically, it boils down to worst-first thinking. Everyone tries to think of the "worst-case scenaio", and plan around that. The problem is this: The true worst-case scenario is that all your planning, and everything that you do to try and stop things from going wrong drives you deeper into the hole.

Now, imagining the worst-case scenario is great in places like the military, where we need to drill through how to deal with true crisis conditions. However, in parenting, all it does is create greater and greater paranoia. Doesn't matter that we're actually safe, we treat our children like any moment that we aren't standing right there watching them, they're in a constant struggle with roving armies of bush pedos waiting for the moment our backs are turned. Nevermind that research clearly shows us that the main perpetrators of these sorts of crimes against kids are people already known and trusted by the family.

What parents don't understand is that this attitude is horribly crippling their children later on down the road. If you're constantly there, trying to be on hand for every little bump and scratch, they never learn how to pick themselves back up. Parenthood is the practice of making yourself obsolete over the course of 16~18 years, and somehow we got away from that somewhere along the road