Damn George...

[Mr. P]

It ain't amnesty because they have to pay a fine and jump some hoops?

Yer kidding right?

[TheStripey1]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, will you believe it's a pig because bush says it is?

He thinks you will.

[Mr. P]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shits like a duck, will you believe it's a pig because bush says it is?

He thinks you will.

The bad new is, ALL of the politicians think we will believe it.

[glockmail]

The bad new is, ALL of the politicians think we will believe it.

Not all, but most.

So what is the solution? We can't send them ALL back. The result would be inhumane, as the countries of origin are too poor to absorb that many people quickly.

I think we need to set up huge work farms on the border to construct a huge wall, then a longer term project to make license plates and repair government furniture and stuff. Offer classes in english, american history, cultural assimilation and high school equivalency at night. The ones that work hard and learn well can get higher up on the list for legal immigration. The reaminder can go back to their native land any time or stay in purgutory for up to ten years, then get deported at a reasoable rate so as not to overload their countries infrastructure.

[loosecannon]

Not all, but most.

So what is the solution? We can't send them ALL back. The result would be inhumane, as the countries of origin are too poor to absorb that many people quickly.

I think we need to set up huge work farms on the border to construct a huge wall, then a longer term project to make license plates and repair government furniture and stuff. Offer classes in english, american history, cultural assimilation and high school equivalency at night. The ones that work hard and learn well can get higher up on the list for legal immigration. The reaminder can go back to their native land any time or stay in purgutory for up to ten years, then get deported at a reasoable rate so as not to overload their countries infrastructure.


Fuck that. You pay for it and then send em all back when they get trained.

We have a quota system that would work just fine if (once again) the gummit would simply enforce the laws on the books.

And I wanna call BS on the DOJ for firing prosecutors because they were not aggressive enough in targeting immigration.

It is the pols who are not aggressive.

[glockmail]

Fuck that. You pay for it and then send em all back when they get trained. .....

Actually they would pay for their eduction with the money made from their labor. But don't let that stop your mindless vitriol.
:laugh2:

[loosecannon]

Actually they would pay for their eduction with the money made from their labor. But don't let that stop your mindless vitriol.
:laugh2:

So you wanna put 12 million in a forced labor camp but you also say:


We can't send them ALL back. The result would be inhumane

Make up your mind Stalin

[glockmail]

So you wanna put 12 million in a forced labor camp but you also say:



Make up your mind Stalin

Fuck you douchebag. Who said anything about forced? They can leave and head south any time they please.

[Mr. P]

Not all, but most.

So what is the solution? We can't send them ALL back. The result would be inhumane, as the countries of origin are too poor to absorb that many people quickly.

I think we need to set up huge work farms on the border to construct a huge wall, then a longer term project to make license plates and repair government furniture and stuff. Offer classes in english, american history, cultural assimilation and high school equivalency at night. The ones that work hard and learn well can get higher up on the list for legal immigration. The reaminder can go back to their native land any time or stay in purgutory for up to ten years, then get deported at a reasoable rate so as not to overload their countries infrastructure.

Yes we can send them back and it's only our problem if we let them stay.

[5stringJeff]

So what is the solution? We can't send them ALL back.

We can and we should. Logistically, we'll never find them all at once, or be able to send them back all at once, but we can and should deport every illegal we get our hands on.

And if it screws up their country of origin, oh freakin' well. Not our problem.

[Doniston]

Not all, but most.

So what is the solution? We can't send them ALL back. The result would be inhumane, as the countries of origin are too poor to absorb that many people quickly.

I think we need to set up huge work farms on the border to construct a huge wall, then a longer term project to make license plates and repair government furniture and stuff. Offer classes in english, american history, cultural assimilation and high school equivalency at night. The ones that work hard and learn well can get higher up on the list for legal immigration. The reaminder can go back to their native land any time or stay in purgutory for up to ten years, then get deported at a reasoable rate so as not to overload their countries infrastructure.Glock, I know we don't often agree, but this idea? REALLY!!! This idea stinks to high-heaven. Are you REALLY a Nazi????

[Doniston]

We can and we should. Logistically, we'll never find them all at once, or be able to send them back all at once, but we can and should deport every illegal we get our hands on.

And if it screws up their country of origin, oh freakin' well. Not our problem. IF COURSE! and it would only take a hundred and fifty years :dance: :rolleyes:

[Pale Rider]

The bad new is, ALL of the politicians think we will believe it.

No they don't. They just don't give a shit. They're going to ram this amnesty bill down our throats whether we like it or not.

Guess what. If this bill passes, I will no longer call myself a republican. I will register and vote independent.

[glockmail]

We can and we should. Logistically, we'll never find them all at once, or be able to send them back all at once, but we can and should deport every illegal we get our hands on.

And if it screws up their country of origin, oh freakin' well. Not our problem.


The problem is guys is that when these poor countries get over run with returns people will starve, there'll be all kinds of disease and crap and then it will be our problem. Face it: we're babysitters to the world.

[glockmail]

Glock, I know we don't often agree, but this idea? REALLY!!! This idea stinks to high-heaven. Are you REALLY a Nazi????


Because its you I'll forgive the insult. Nazis put barbed wire around their slave camps. These workers would get paid and allowed to head south anytime they want.

[Mr. P]

No they don't. They just don't give a shit. They're going to ram this amnesty bill down our throats whether we like it or not.

Guess what. If this bill passes, I will no longer call myself a republican. I will register and vote independent.

You'll find good company in being independent. :)

[5stringJeff]

The problem is guys is that when these poor countries get over run with returns people will starve, there'll be all kinds of disease and crap and then it will be our problem. Face it: we're babysitters to the world.

Wrong. Not my country, not my problem. Period.

[glockmail]

Wrong. Not my country, not my problem. Period.
Name one catasrophy in this hemisphere that we did not get involved with. And this one would be seen as our doing. It would be bad for business, so to speak.

[5stringJeff]

Name one catasrophy in this hemisphere that we did not get involved with. And this one would be seen as our doing. It would be bad for business, so to speak.

The Socialist Revolutions in South America.

[glockmail]

The Socialist Revolutions in South America.
The libs in congress consider that a good thing.

[Yurt]

We can and we should. Logistically, we'll never find them all at once, or be able to send them back all at once, but we can and should deport every illegal we get our hands on.

And if it screws up their country of origin, oh freakin' well. Not our problem.

Exactly. The same country that handed out maps on how to ILLEGALLY get into the US.

Their own country wants to get rid of them. Why? I really want to know why. Why would their country assist them in LEAVING ILLEGALLY?

[Doniston]

The libs in congress consider that a good thing.n You sure have an odd way of looking at things, "ODD" as in Odd man out. HEH HEH

[Doniston]

Exactly. The same country that handed out maps on how to ILLEGALLY get into the US.

Their own country wants to get rid of them. Why? I really want to know why. Why would their country assist them in LEAVING ILLEGALLY? You really don't know???????

The vast majority of those who leave, send back money to their families. This is the GNP of Mexico.

[Pale Rider]

Exactly. The same country that handed out maps on how to ILLEGALLY get into the US.

Their own country wants to get rid of them. Why? I really want to know why. Why would their country assist them in LEAVING ILLEGALLY?

An easier question to answer would be, "why WOULDN'T they want the illegals to leave?"

mexico is dumping their trash in America, and we're actually HELPING them do it. I'm really losing my patience with this.

[Yurt]

You really don't know???????

The vast majority of those who leave, send back money to their families. This is the GNP of Mexico.



Your point? Please explain more... I want to hear more...

[Yurt]

An easier question to answer would be, "why WOULDN'T they want the illegals to leave?"

mexico is dumping their trash in America, and we're actually HELPING them do it. I'm really losing my patience with this.

I don't think it is an easy question. I think it is bullshit. As your second paragraph states.

Is there any among you... who will denounce mexican policies... the machines are against us.... is there any among you....


I know, a movie, but the movie makes a GREAT point. MOST politicians are cowards, they would rather save their "border" around their proverbial seat than the border of the nation they are protecting.....

[Hobbit]

I say we take the tough love stance with Mexico. We do whatever it takes to get their trash back to them, then tell them to deal with it. It'll be hard for a while, but they'll eventually have to figure out how to run a non-crap country.

[glockmail]

n You sure have an odd way of looking at things, "ODD" as in Odd man out. HEH HEH Won't be the first time I was alone in being correct.

[glockmail]

An easier question to answer would be, "why WOULDN'T they want the illegals to leave?"

mexico is dumping their trash in America, and we're actually HELPING them do it. I'm really losing my patience with this.

Pale I agree that we need to seal off the border, and do it quickly in a draconian way if we have to. But the vast majority of Mexicos trash are good people and a valuable resource. Like any other resource, if untended it can become a problem. That's why I think we should set up work camps and train them to become productive US citizens. If they work hard to build a border wall and learn english and US culture (borders - language - culture) they should be able to get in the back of the line with those who have respected our borders and applied for citizenship the legal way.

This is a legitimate solution that should be taken seriously.

[glockmail]

I say we take the tough love stance with Mexico. We do whatever it takes to get their trash back to them, then tell them to deal with it. It'll be hard for a while, but they'll eventually have to figure out how to run a non-crap country. Corrupton is so entrenched it will never be cleaned out. The instability keeps investment away and the result has been poverty for generations. The people who have run from that corrupt system know that better than anyone else.

[Doniston]

Your point? Please explain more... I want to hear more... I don't really know what's to explain The moneys (billions)sent back to Mexico by both legal and illegal immigrants is what is making the leaders of Mexico Rich.

[Doniston]

Won't be the first time I was alone in being correct.

OH, of course, just like me saying, "Well, I was wrong ----Once" HEH HEH.