India's driniking water shortage!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2010/02/thirsty-throats-water-crisis-in-india/


Thirsty Throats: Water Crisis In India

Posted by YouthKiAwaaz on February 2, 2010 in Society · 0 Comments

Avnish Gaurav:

The paucity of fresh water globally is one of the many forgotten topics today. There have been silent conflicts and tensions over water, widespread deaths due to polluted water are quite rampant and possibilities of an imminent war over water not being ruled out. In our attempt to garner public opinion towards this potentially alarming issue, we present a series on water crisis “THIRSTY THROATS”; India being our first subject of analysis.

India and China, being the two highest flying economies of the time; any development – positive or negative in this part of the world is likely to affect the entire globe in future. The water shortage is so severe that in India and China an epidemic can wipe out 40% of the population. The devastation will be one of its kinds, one that has not been known in any documented history of our civilizations.

The statistics speak out for themselves. According to the 2001 Census, only 68.2 per cent of households in the country had access to safe drinking water. Experts say, as of now, 50 per cent of the villages have no source of protected drinking water. In a list of 122 countries rated on the quality of potable drinking water, India ranked a lowly 120. With 1.2 billion people to feed, it is estimated that by 2020, India will become an even more water-stressed nation. The availability of water per person per annum has been reduced from 6500 cubic meters to 2500 cubic meters. The World Bank’s State of India Environment reports, the per capita drinking water availability in the country has fallen by about 15-20 per cent over the past two decades. World Bank estimates that 21% of communicable diseases in India are related to unsafe water. In India, diarrhoea alone causes more than 1,600 deaths daily—the same as if eight 200-person jumbo-jets crashed to the ground each day.

Imagine dying of thirst. Thats one extremely painful way to go!
The consider 1600 people a day dying from diarrhea! Thats young and old alike. TRAGIC TO SAY THE LEAST...-Tyr

[Kathianne]

"Water, water everywhere. Not a drop to drink."

http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/survival/wilderness/convert-salt-water.htm


...So why can't we convert seawater into drinking water? Actually, we can and we do. In fact, people have been making seawater drinkable at least as far back as the ancient Greeks. But when taken to the scale of cities, states and nations, purifying seawater has historically proven prohibitively expensive, especially when compared to tapping regional and local sources of freshwater. However, as advancing technology continues to drive costs down and freshwater continues to grow scarcer and more expensive, more cities are looking to seawater conversion as a way to meet this vital demand [source: Maloni (http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/survival/wilderness/convert-salt-water3.htm#maloni)].


Read on to find out how and where seawater is being converted into drinking water today, including how desalination is bolstering disaster relief in Haiti....

[Drummond]

Wow .. they can have some of ours. We're drowning in the stuff !!

It's true, what they say about a balance in all things. Just as some areas are experiencing drought conditions, so others get torrential downpours instead.

The British summer, so far, has been a washout .. rain nearly every day. Flood warnings, just days ago, in 87 areas !

Wait for the London Olympics. It's increasingly looking as though our wet weather will encroach on Olympic events ... you may all see what I'm talking about ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167


Tuesday 17 July Published at 11:47

UK Warnings
Weather Warning
Tuesday 17th July

There is a YELLOW WARNING in force for RAIN.

Heavy rain will affect parts of northwest England, Northern Ireland and southwest Scotland on Tuesday evening.

Given saturated conditions the public should be aware of the risk of localised flooding.

Valid Tuesday 2000 until 2359.

Tuesday 17th July

There is a YELLOW EARLY WARNING in force for RAIN.

Heavy rain is expected to affect parts of northern England, Northern Ireland, southern and central Scotland and northwest Wales on Wednesday.

Given saturated conditions the public should be aware of the risk of localised flooding.

Valid Wednesday 0005 until 2359.

Flood Warning
Tuesday 17th July

There are 4 flood warnings in force across the UK:

Southwest (1)

Anglian (1)

Midlands (2)

[aboutime]

Yes. India has a drinking water problem. Yes. Drinking water can be converted from Salt Water.
PROBLEM IS: Desalinization plants, pipelines, and the number that need to be constructed are VERY, VERY Expensive to build, and maintain.

Nearly ALL ships have the capabilities to manufacture their own Drinking water from salt water. But the amount needed to feed Millions of people in small, tightly arranged cities, and towns is a Massive, often, next to impossible undertaking.

If only it was just that easy. To build a plant, and help the thirsty?

[Drummond]

Yes. India has a drinking water problem. Yes. Drinking water can be converted from Salt Water.
PROBLEM IS: Desalinization plants, pipelines, and the number that need to be constructed are VERY, VERY Expensive to build, and maintain.

Nearly ALL ships have the capabilities to manufacture their own Drinking water from salt water. But the amount needed to feed Millions of people in small, tightly arranged cities, and towns is a Massive, often, next to impossible undertaking.

If only it was just that easy. To build a plant, and help the thirsty?

Fair points.

The UK had its Great Drought back in 1976 ... almost no rainfall at all, anywhere, throughout the summer.

Since we are an island nation, talk inevitably started on the need to get desalination plants up and running to make sure that Britain was prepared for any repeats of those conditions. But, of course, nothing was ever done about it.

The Socialist Government of the time nevertheless found their own alternative solution. They created their own Drought Minister.

It was enough to tempt fate. Days later ... sure enough, the heavens opened, torrential downpours became commonplace, and everybody forgot about desalination plants, seemingly forever ....

[logroller]

I recall a commercial where they towed an iceberg to be used as drinking water.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I recall a commercial where they towed an iceberg to be used as drinking water.

Considering the high costs of converting seawater towing an iceberg may be what they have to do there soon!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

India needs to tow this baby and harvest it . Forty six square miles !--Tyr



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48211572/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/manhattan-size-iceberg-breaks-greenland-glacier/


Iceberg bigger than Manhattan breaks from Greenland glacier
Below:

This satellite image from Monday shows an iceberg, top center, breaking off from the Petermann Glacier in northwest Greenland. OurAmazingPlanet
updated 7/17/2012 1:21:57 PM ET 2012-07-17T17:21:57
A massive iceberg larger than Manhattan has broken away from the floating end of a Greenland glacier this week, an event scientists predicted last autumn.

The giant ice island is 46 square miles, and separated from the terminus of the Petermann Glacier, one of Greenland's largest.

The Petermann Glacier last birthed — or "calved" — a massive iceberg two years ago, in August 2010. The iceberg that broke off and floated away was nearly four times the size of Manhattan, and one of the largest ever recorded in Greenland.

Although the new iceberg isn't as colossal as its 2010 predecessor, its birth has moved the front end of the massive glacier farther inland than it has been in 150 years, Andreas Muenchow, an associate professor of physical ocean science and engineering at the University of Delaware, said in a statement.

[Kathianne]

Wow .. they can have some of ours. We're drowning in the stuff !!

It's true, what they say about a balance in all things. Just as some areas are experiencing drought conditions, so others get torrential downpours instead.

The British summer, so far, has been a washout .. rain nearly every day. Flood warnings, just days ago, in 87 areas !

Wait for the London Olympics. It's increasingly looking as though our wet weather will encroach on Olympic events ... you may all see what I'm talking about ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167

I wish we could have some of yours! You are welcome to about 20 degrees of our heat too! 102 today. Sigh.

[Kathianne]

Yes. India has a drinking water problem. Yes. Drinking water can be converted from Salt Water.
PROBLEM IS: Desalinization plants, pipelines, and the number that need to be constructed are VERY, VERY Expensive to build, and maintain.

Nearly ALL ships have the capabilities to manufacture their own Drinking water from salt water. But the amount needed to feed Millions of people in small, tightly arranged cities, and towns is a Massive, often, next to impossible undertaking.

If only it was just that easy. To build a plant, and help the thirsty?

But as the link I provided above demonstrates, it's getting there. It will happen. I know Israel was the first to desalinate on large scale for irrigation, at a very high cost. Tech will overcome.

[aboutime]

I recall a commercial where they towed an iceberg to be used as drinking water.
Sure thing. Now, tell us. Exactly HOW many ships, or tug boats would you need to tow such a massive iceburg...(only the top is showing) from greenland, down across the entire Atlantic Ocean, taking a Left around Africa, into the Indian Ocean....BEFORE it either melts, or JAMS UP the sea-lanes while raising the tidal levels...all along the North, and South American continents.

Rube Goldburg....where are you now?

I'd love to hear Obama respond to this.

[logroller]

Sure thing. Now, tell us. Exactly HOW many ships, or tug boats would you need to tow such a massive iceburg...(only the top is showing) from greenland, down across the entire Atlantic Ocean, taking a Left around Africa, into the Indian Ocean....BEFORE it either melts, or JAMS UP the sea-lanes while raising the tidal levels...all along the North, and South American continents.

Rube Goldburg....where are you now?

I'd love to hear Obama respond to this.

It was just one ship iirc; coulda been two though. It was a commercial on tv...so it has to be true, right? I'm just poking fun bubba. The simple facts of the matter are there are too many people for the available resources--a plight as old as recorded time-- people die, problem solved.
Even if an iceberg or a desal plant magically appeared tomorrow, how does it get from shore ==> inland? I know the Indian govt now trucks water to certain areas at great cost, desal plants won't solve that problem. Technology can improve resource availability to an extent, but how many sacred cows will need to be slaughtered to transport water to billions?

[aboutime]

It was just one ship iirc; coulda been two though. It was a commercial on tv...so it has to be true, right? I'm just poking fun bubba. The simple facts of the matter are there are too many people for the available resources--a plight as old as recorded time-- people die, problem solved.
Even if an iceberg or a desal plant magically appeared tomorrow, how does it get from shore ==> inland? I know the Indian govt now trucks water to certain areas at great cost, desal plants won't solve that problem. Technology can improve resource availability to an extent, but how many sacred cows will need to be slaughtered to transport water to billions?

I know. It's just so much fun to talk about such things like this. It reminded me of another commercial I saw where a Blonde says...she heard something on the Internet...and EVERYTHING is TRUE on the Internet...before she introduces her WEIRDO looking boyfriend who looks like the kid on the bridge in DELIVERANCE, and she says...He's a French Dancer.

Our whole world has become such a Dumb, and Dumber place to live. If we lose the ability to laugh. We lose everything.

[revelarts]

It was just one ship iirc; coulda been two though. It was a commercial on tv...so it has to be true, right? I'm just poking fun bubba. The simple facts of the matter are there are too many people for the available resources--a plight as old as recorded time-- people die, problem solved.
Even if an iceberg or a desal plant magically appeared tomorrow, how does it get from shore ==> inland? I know the Indian govt now trucks water to certain areas at great cost, desal plants won't solve that problem. Technology can improve resource availability to an extent, but how many sacred cows will need to be slaughtered to transport water to billions?

"...The simple facts of the matter are there are too many people for the available resources--a plight as old as recorded time-- people die, problem solved..."


Groan...

There are answers to the problem that DO NOT involve people dying to solve it.
people losing money probably, and people changing the way we do things radically. And They don't even involve religion but more politics and commerce. (which is often more scared than religion to many).

But the Malthusian defeatism is a theme you need to let go of Log.

[logroller]

"...The simple facts of the matter are there are too many people for the available resources--a plight as old as recorded time-- people die, problem solved..."


Groan...

There are answers to the problem that DO NOT involve people dying to solve it.
people losing money probably, and people changing the way we do things radically. And They don't even involve religion but more politics and commerce. (which is often more scared than religion to many).

But the Malthusian defeatism is a theme you need to let go of Log.
Radical changes don't happen until people die. I wish it weren't so, but people don't relinquish their liberty until lives are lost, creating the focusing event upon which political momentum is swayed. See union carbide, or love canal...the examples abound. Big changes don't just happen because people up and decide its for the best-- but rather they get a first hand look at what is worse. India has huge rivers, polluted by industry that provides jobs that pay better than what they were used to. The fact they can't afford to commute, so they live next door to these factories, thus exposing them to the effluent runoff is indeed unfortunate; but they want those jobs and politicians who threaten to take those jobs...well, I shouldnt skip stones at India. Global warming or what ever: the solutions to climate change, if it exists or not, are good ideas: reduced fossil fuel use, energy conservation, water conservation, reduced consumption of animal based foods...I could go on and on. The benefits far outweigh the costs, but don't you dare speak out about something like that, pig farmers have powerful lobbies that'll have you in bed with the muslim brotherhood by the morning news cycle-- talking about socialist conspiracies with foreign powers. It's jacked up rev, and you know it. But what are the alternatives....gee, I don't know-- maybe find a focusing event (even construe one on debatable evidence) like global warming. Or play off people without water and suggest a new GE/ dOW joint desal plants when the problem is the fresh water available is polluted by the same industry partners....for those poor thirsty farmers, of course.:rolleyes:

[revelarts]

Well a crazy dictator managed to Spend 20 Billion to create a man made river from an underground aquifer. it's supplying Libya with water NOW.
He wanted to use it to green parts of the desert as well for agriculture.
not sure what going to happen under the new regimn and more Outside influence, CoughAgenda21Cough.

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the nay sayer at the end there , seems there's been naysayers since the projects started.
But the water is suppose to be able to last for 200 years.

i wonder how many other untapped aquifers are around the world?

The Project is said to be the biggest engineering project in the world.


The Great Man-Made River is a network of pipes that supplies water to the Sahara Desert in Libya, from the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System fossil aquifer. It is the world’s largest irrigation project. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River)
It is the largest underground network of pipes and aqueducts in the world. It consists of more than 1,300 wells, most more than 500 m deep, and supplies 6,500,000 m³ of fresh water per day to the cities of Tripoli, Benghazi, Sirt and elsewhere. Muammar al-Gaddafi has described it as the “Eighth Wonder of the World.”
chaoticfate.blogspot.com/2011/03/real-story-of-why-un-went-to-war-with.html (http://chaoticfate.blogspot.com/2011/03/real-story-of-why-un-went-to-war-with.html)
Gaddafi-Central Bank used $33 billion, without interest rates, to build the Great Man-Made River with three parallel pipelines running oil, gas and water supplying 70% of the people (4.5 of its 6 million) with clean drinking and irrigation water. This provides adequate crops for the people and would be a competitive exporter of vegetables with ISRAEL and Egypt.
Great Man made River Project facts:
These are some Facts and Figures about GMRA :
- Approximately 500,000 pre-stressed concrete cylinder pipes have been manufactured to date.
- Approximately 500,000 pipes transported to date. Pipe transportation is continuous process and the work goes on day and night, distance traveled by the transporters is equivalent to the sun and back.
- Over 3,700 km of haul roads was constructed alongside the pipe line trench to enable the heavy truck — trailers to deliver pipe to the installation site Phase I Total Length 1,600 Km.
Phase II Total Length 2,155 Km.
- Volume of Trench Excavation 250 Million Cubic Meter.
- The amount of aggregate used in the project : 30,000,000 Ton.
Enough to Build 20 pyramids the size of the great pyramid of Khoufu.
- Total Weight of Cement used 7.0 Million Tones.
- Total Length of Pre-Stressing Wire 6.0 Million Kilometers
This would circle the Earth 280 times. libyanpeoplesbureau.com/manmaderiver.html (http://libyanpeoplesbureau.com/manmaderiver.html)


http://colonel6.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/libya-river3.jpg?w=203&h=152 (http://colonel6.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/libya-river3.jpg)

Thousands of Pipes Were Used
The SECRET MOTIVE: why the UN declared war on Libya. DESTABILIZATION. They did NOT attack Gaddafi, They attacked Africa’s Fresh Water Supply.
“The West refuses to recognize that a small country, with a population no more than six million, can construct anything so large without borrowing a single cent from the international banks.”

—

“The goal of the Libyan Arab people, embodied in the Great Man-Made River project, is to make Libya a source of agricultural abundance, capable of producing adequate food and water to supply its own needs and to share with neighboring countries. In short, the River is literally Libya’s ‘meal ticket’ to self-sufficiency.”.....

http://www.morningliberty.com/2011/07/31/water-war-in-libya-gaddafi-is-not-natos-target/

....It is a war crime to attack essential civilian infrastructure. 95% of Libya is desert and 70% of Libyans depend on water which is piped in from the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System under the southern desert. The water pipe infrastructure is probably the most essential civilian infrastructure in Libya. Key to its continued function, particularly in time of war, is the Brega pipe factory which enables leaks and breaks in the system to be repaired.

NATO has admitted that its jets attacked the pipe factory on 22 July, claiming in justification that it was used as a military storage facility and rockets were launched from there....
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/07/27/great-man-made-river-nato-bombs/








20- 33 billion

So how much has India in that one new money pot?

And there are solutions if people are willing to try, and others will get out of the way.

Do you think if Qhadafi could get this done in a desert country that India of other nations could pull it or something similar off?