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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-13-2012, 06:35 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/10/us-russia-wto-idUSBRE8691CE20120710

Russia »
By Douglas Busvine

MOSCOW | Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:34pm EDT

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian lawmakers voted on Tuesday to ratify accession to the World Trade Organization, bringing the world's largest country into the club that sets global trade rules after a tortuous 18-year negotiating marathon.

The lower house vote, carried by a majority of 30 votes, seals Russia's entry to the WTO under a deal reached last December that will oblige Moscow to cut import tariffs and open up key sectors of its economy to foreign investment.

Russia's $1.9 trillion economy, the world's ninth largest, will officially become the WTO's 156th member 30 days after ratification.

President Vladimir Putin, elected in March for a third Kremlin term, had long appeared ambivalent about WTO entry but warmed to the process after Russia's economy was hit hard by the global recession of 2008-09.

Addressing the State Duma, Economy Minister Andrei Belousov said, although WTO entry carried risks, they would be outweighed by the benefits - in particular to consumers in terms of better choice, quality and prices for goods.

The reduction of import tariffs under the WTO deal, from an average 9.5 percent now to 6 percent by 2015, would happen no faster than in other new member states, giving firms time to invest in boosting their competitiveness, he said.

Failure to ratify accession in time would have forced Russia to renegotiate, Belousov said.

"We would not be able to get better terms than today and would lose years," he told the chamber.

PRESSURE ON WASHINGTON

In Washington, Trade Representative Ron Kirk urged U.S. lawmakers to quickly approve permanent normal trade relations, known as PNTR, with Russia by lifting a Cold War-era provision that made favorable U.S. tariffs conditional on the rights of Russian Jews to emigrate freely.

The Jackson-Vanik amendment is inconsistent with WTO rules requiring countries to provide equal treatment for imports from all other members, and also considered out of date.

If Congress fails to approve PNTR, Russia could deny U.S. exporters the market-opening concessions it made to join the WTO, putting them at a disadvantage to suppliers in Europe, Asia and elsewhere around the world.

"Russia's membership in the rules-based global trading system of the WTO will contribute to Russia's economic growth as well as provide us with new opportunities to guide and grow our bilateral economic relationship," Kirk said.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat, has said he plans to push forward on a PNTR bill this month, but his counterpart in the House of Representatives, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, a Michigan Republican, has not made the same pledge.

"Without PNTR, America's ranchers, farmers, workers and businesses will lose out to their foreign competition. I intend to mark up PNTR legislation as quickly as possible," Baucus said in a statement after the Duma vote.

'DRAGGED ALONG'

According to a World Bank study, the boost to growth that Russia may expect from joining the WTO could be 3.3 percent over the medium term and as much as 11 percent in the long run.

A petition by opposition parties to the Constitutional Court to block Russia's WTO entry was thrown out on Monday. Nearly all opposition lawmakers voted against ratification, with the vote carried by the ruling United Russia party.

"We will be dragged along in the last wagon of a convoy that will be ruled over by multinational companies," said Vladimir Zhirinovksy, leader of the nationalist Liberal Democratic Party, playing on widespread public fears that Russian industry cannot compete on open world markets.

The opposition Communists staged a small anti-WTO picket outside the State Duma, close to the Kremlin.

"If we join the WTO, the consequences for Russia will be worse than in the Second World War - whole single-industry towns will be destroyed and millions of people will lose their jobs," Alexander Prokoshev, a 26-year-old office worker from the steel town of Lipetsk who joined the picket, told Reuters.

The upper chamber of Russia's parliament, the Federation Council, also must approve the bill before it is sent to Putin to sign into law.

Both are expected before the July 23 deadline for Russia to notify the WTO it has accepted its terms for entry.

(Additional reporting by Doug Palmer in Washington; Editing by Timothy Heritage, Bill Trott and Sofina Mirza-Reid)

We see the New World Order aligning now. When will America be forced to renounce our Sovereignty and our Constitution and truly join the coming creation of a One World Government? Think it a mad conspiracy only? Wake up!--Tyr

fj1200
07-14-2012, 06:29 AM
Or it could just be free trade.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Or it could just be free trade.

Whats truly free in life?
Of the three basics of life- food, water and air , only air remains as free!
They arent organising to sponsor --FREE-- in any way! They are organising to be able to -FORCE- change, and limit freedom. For our freedoms/Constitution are the greatset obstacles that they face .
Think DeBeers and diamonds for an example. Estimated that the price of diamonds is inflated by DeBEERS ABSOLUTE CONTROL by about 7 fold. DeBeers is a worldwide monopoly that isnt questioned or bucked much anymore. Monsanto would be another example.
Free trade is a myth. Somebody always pays and usually pays thru the nose too.-Tyr

fj1200
07-14-2012, 03:34 PM
Whats truly free in life?
Of the three basics of life- food, water and air , only air remains as free!
They arent organising to sponsor --FREE-- in any way! They are organising to be able to -FORCE- change, and limit freedom. For our freedoms/Constitution are the greatset obstacles that they face .
Think DeBeers and diamonds for an example. Estimated that the price of diamonds is inflated by DeBEERS ABSOLUTE CONTROL by about 7 fold. DeBeers is a worldwide monopoly that isnt questioned or bucked much anymore. Monsanto would be another example.
Free trade is a myth. Somebody always pays and usually pays thru the nose too.-Tyr

Wrong. Debeers is not free trade anyway.

The Benefits of Free Trade: A Guide For Policymakers (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=benefits%20of%20free%20trade&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CGYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heritage.org%2Fresearch%2Frep orts%2F2000%2F08%2Fthe-benefits-of-free-trade-a-guide-for-policymakers&ei=wtYBUKbfB4Sk8QTFwqjzBw&usg=AFQjCNFyyrdhXVyY80iTYqcARGxruzCOnA)
10 Advantages of Free Trade | eHow.com (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=benefits%20of%20free%20trade&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CGwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Fabout_5381660_adva ntages-trade.html&ei=wtYBUKbfB4Sk8QTFwqjzBw&usg=AFQjCNHwnTFU833qal4Yh-_-3wgH5qfyRQ)
Thousands of other links that you might choose to ignore as well.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-14-2012, 04:13 PM
Wrong. Debeers is not free trade anyway.

The Benefits of Free Trade: A Guide For Policymakers (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=benefits%20of%20free%20trade&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CGYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heritage.org%2Fresearch%2Frep orts%2F2000%2F08%2Fthe-benefits-of-free-trade-a-guide-for-policymakers&ei=wtYBUKbfB4Sk8QTFwqjzBw&usg=AFQjCNFyyrdhXVyY80iTYqcARGxruzCOnA)
10 Advantages of Free Trade | eHow.com (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=benefits%20of%20free%20trade&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CGwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Fabout_5381660_adva ntages-trade.html&ei=wtYBUKbfB4Sk8QTFwqjzBw&usg=AFQjCNHwnTFU833qal4Yh-_-3wgH5qfyRQ)
Thousands of other links that you might choose to ignore as well.

FREE TRADE will not be free trade either. It will be harnessed to fund the One World Government but carry on in your lack of knowledge and keep us informed will ya?-Tyr

logroller
07-14-2012, 04:20 PM
FREE TRADE will not be free trade either. It will be harnessed to fund the One World Government but carry on in your lack of knowledge and keep us informed will ya?-Tyr
While I agree free trade isnt free; the transaction costs outweigh the economic benefits of scale and specialization. The twentieth century was testament to the economic power of international trade agreements.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-14-2012, 04:46 PM
While I agree free trade isnt free; the transaction costs outweigh the economic benefits of scale and specialization. The twentieth century was testament to the economic power of international trade agreements.

I am not disputing that the power of International trade agreements is necessarily bad but the force behind organising this World Trade Organisation is bad. Simply because its stated agenda is no nations, no borders, One World Government. The bigger the government the less freedom for its citizens and that has yet to ever be shown to be wrong! America can only be a true member if we renounce our National Sovereignty (void our Constitution)and that is on the agenda. Its the prime force behind obama 's agenda too. For Soros is a globalist and Soros pulls obama's strings.-Tyr

fj1200
07-14-2012, 10:30 PM
FREE TRADE will not be free trade either. It will be harnessed to fund the One World Government but carry on in your lack of knowledge and keep us informed will ya?-Tyr

Hmm, nothing about one world government here:

The World Trade Organization — the WTO — is the international organization whose primary purpose is to open trade for the benefit of all.
http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/wto_dg_stat_e.htm

But all those links, data, and reasoned arguments that you have put forth ARE quite convincing. :rolleyes:


While I agree free trade isnt free; the transaction costs outweigh the economic benefits of scale and specialization. The twentieth century was testament to the economic power of international trade agreements.

Not sure what you mean there.


I am not disputing that the power of International trade agreements is necessarily bad but the force behind organising this World Trade Organisation is bad. Simply because its stated agenda is no nations, no borders, One World Government. The bigger the government the less freedom for its citizens and that has yet to ever be shown to be wrong! America can only be a true member if we renounce our National Sovereignty (void our Constitution)and that is on the agenda. Its the prime force behind obama 's agenda too. For Soros is a globalist and Soros pulls obama's strings.-Tyr

Link?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-14-2012, 11:03 PM
Hmm, nothing about one world government here:

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/wto_dg_stat_e.htm

But all those links, data, and reasoned arguments that you have put forth ARE quite convincing. :rolleyes:



Not sure what you mean there.



Link?

OK. HERE IS A LINK..
http://www.humanevents.com/2009/10/27/obamas-oneworld-government/

Energy & EnvironmentObama’s One-World Government
By: Chuck Norris

Flying deep under Washington’s radar is an upcoming (December) global climate change conference in Copenhagen, the “United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.”

It all sounds pretty politically benign, doesn’t it? Not according to Christopher Monckton, who was a science policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher. Monckton spoke to the Minnesota Free Market Institute.

“I have read that treaty,” Monckton said, “and what it says is this: that a One World Government is going to be created. The word ‘government’ actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to Third World countries in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, ‘climate debt’ — because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. And we’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. … And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement. How many of you think that the word ‘election’ or ‘democracy’ or ‘vote’ or ‘ballot’ occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once.”

Monckton then warned that if Obama were to sign the treaty, he would be flushing U.S. sovereignty down the global toilet. He further pointed out that even though ratification of our president’s signature on that treaty would need 67 votes in the Senate, it could pass via a simple majority as an amendment to the cap-and-trade bill.

PolitiFact (as well as many left-leaning blogs) quickly criticized Monckton’s conclusions as conspiratorial and climate-skepticism rhetoric, based upon the notion that the treaty is a draft and not a finalized document. The apologetic of PolitiFact leaves the impression that the current draft is the roughest of cuts, but in reality, it is the result of seven sessions of deliberations and revisions from several subgroups, including representatives from developed and developing countries “with a view to modifying it in the direction of consolidation and convergence.”

As I myself read through the latest draft of the 181-page treaty, I noticed many lines that could warrant Monckton’s and others’ concerns. Phrases such as “creation of new levels of cooperation,” “a shift in global investment patterns,” “adjust global economic growth patterns,” “integrated system of financial and technology transfer mechanisms,” “new agreed post-2012 institutional arrangement and legal framework,” “new institutional arrangement will provide technical and financial support for developing countries,” “global fund,” etc., are messages that make one wonder how far this political body’s arm would reach into our country and force our hands into others.
SNIP..

CLICK THE LINK FOR THE REST..

Here is another link.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-24/politics/30315525_1_humanism-financial-crisis-bretton-woods-institutions

WHOOPS! Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government
Michael Brendan Dougherty|October 24, 2011|10,431|49

In a widely-expected note on the financial crisis and economic justice, Vatican officials accidently call for the establishment of a One World Global "Authority" to regulate financial markets and national governments.

After gently noting that such a project is "a complex and delicate process," the document begins to capitalize the word, "Authority" in the most unsettling, conspiracy-launching way possible:

A supranational Authority of this kind should have a realistic structure and be set up gradually. It should be favourable to the existence of efficient and effective monetary and financial systems; that is, free and stable markets overseen by a suitable legal framework, well-functioning in support of sustainable development and social progress of all, and inspired by the values of charity and truth. It is a matter of an Authority with a global reach that cannot be imposed by force, coercion or violence, but should be the outcome of a free and shared agreement and a reflection of the permanent and historic needs of the world common good.

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The document was issued by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, an obscure office in the Vatican that usually satisfies itself with issuing vague statements on social issues.

The text is a series of verbose and intensely boring ruminations on everything from credit instruments to technology, but here are some of the highlights for conspiracy theorists.

A brief summarization of the financial crisis:

Since the 1990s, we have seen that money and credit instruments worldwide have grown more rapidly than revenue, even adjusting for current prices. From this came the formation of pockets of excessive liquidity and speculative bubbles which later turned into a series of solvency and confidence crises that have spread and followed one another over the years.

A fond recollection of the Bretton-Woods agreement:

With regard to the current global economic and financial systems, two decisive factors should be stressed. The first is the gradual decline in efficacy of the Bretton Woods institutions beginning in the early 1970s. ... The second factor is the need for a minimum, shared body of rules to manage the global financial market which has grown much more rapidly than the real economy.

An assertion that nation-states are dissolving anyway, and that's mostly good, so let's have worldwide laws while we're at it:

Globalization, despite some of its negative aspects, is unifying peoples more and prompting them to move towards a new “rule of law” on the supranational level, supported by a more intense and fruitful collaboration.

A passage that seems to say that the Church should seek to promote "a new humanism" to serve as the ethical and cultural basis of world-government:

On the way to building a more fraternal and just human family and, even before that, a new humanism open to transcendence, Blessed John XXIII’s teaching seems especially timely. In the prophetic Encyclical Pacem in Terris of 1963, he observed that the world was heading towards ever greater unification. He then acknowledged the fact that a correspondence was lacking in the human community between the political organization “on a world level and the objective needs of the universal common good”

(Here we thought the Catholic Church and the Popes were in the business of promoting Catholicism.)



Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-24/politics/30315525_1_humanism-financial-crisis-bretton-woods-institutions#ixzz20f3oCYOQ


WHOOPS! Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government
Michael Brendan Dougherty|October 24, 2011|10,431|49

In a widely-expected note on the financial crisis and economic justice, Vatican officials accidently call for the establishment of a One World Global "Authority" to regulate financial markets and national governments.

After gently noting that such a project is "a complex and delicate process," the document begins to capitalize the word, "Authority" in the most unsettling, conspiracy-launching way possible:

A supranational Authority of this kind should have a realistic structure and be set up gradually. It should be favourable to the existence of efficient and effective monetary and financial systems; that is, free and stable markets overseen by a suitable legal framework, well-functioning in support of sustainable development and social progress of all, and inspired by the values of charity and truth. It is a matter of an Authority with a global reach that cannot be imposed by force, coercion or violence, but should be the outcome of a free and shared agreement and a reflection of the permanent and historic needs of the world common good.

Continue Below
The document was issued by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, an obscure office in the Vatican that usually satisfies itself with issuing vague statements on social issues.

The text is a series of verbose and intensely boring ruminations on everything from credit instruments to technology, but here are some of the highlights for conspiracy theorists.

A brief summarization of the financial crisis:

Since the 1990s, we have seen that money and credit instruments worldwide have grown more rapidly than revenue, even adjusting for current prices. From this came the formation of pockets of excessive liquidity and speculative bubbles which later turned into a series of solvency and confidence crises that have spread and followed one another over the years.

A fond recollection of the Bretton-Woods agreement:

With regard to the current global economic and financial systems, two decisive factors should be stressed. The first is the gradual decline in efficacy of the Bretton Woods institutions beginning in the early 1970s. ... The second factor is the need for a minimum, shared body of rules to manage the global financial market which has grown much more rapidly than the real economy.

An assertion that nation-states are dissolving anyway, and that's mostly good, so let's have worldwide laws while we're at it:

Globalization, despite some of its negative aspects, is unifying peoples more and prompting them to move towards a new “rule of law” on the supranational level, supported by a more intense and fruitful collaboration.

A passage that seems to say that the Church should seek to promote "a new humanism" to serve as the ethical and cultural basis of world-government:

On the way to building a more fraternal and just human family and, even before that, a new humanism open to transcendence, Blessed John XXIII’s teaching seems especially timely. In the prophetic Encyclical Pacem in Terris of 1963, he observed that the world was heading towards ever greater unification. He then acknowledged the fact that a correspondence was lacking in the human community between the political organization “on a world level and the objective needs of the universal common good”

(Here we thought the Catholic Church and the Popes were in the business of promoting Catholicism.)



Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-24/politics/30315525_1_humanism-financial-crisis-bretton-woods-institutions#ixzz20f3oCYOQ

logroller
07-15-2012, 02:28 AM
Hmm, nothing about one world government here:

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/wto_dg_stat_e.htm

But all those links, data, and reasoned arguments that you have put forth ARE quite convincing. :rolleyes:



Not sure what you mean there.



Link?

I just meant that free trade, in a practical sense, has some negatives but are 'outweighed by' the overall benefits provided by open trade...pretty much the opposite of what I wrote...whoops.

Toro
07-15-2012, 08:01 AM
This is silly.

Kathianne
07-15-2012, 08:04 AM
This is silly.

What? Chuck Norris isn't authoritative enough for you?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-15-2012, 02:12 PM
What? Chuck Norris isn't authoritative enough for you?

I offered two links, first was arcticle authored by Chuck Norris, the second was from Businessinsider.com and dealt with the Vatican 's actions towards the One World Government's creation which is by no means a speedy process.
Catholic church is selling out IMHO.-Tyr

Dilloduck
07-15-2012, 02:45 PM
Reaching decisions by consensus among some 150 members can be difficult.

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/fact1_e.htm

fj1200
07-23-2012, 11:45 AM
I just meant that free trade, in a practical sense, has some negatives but are 'outweighed by' the overall benefits provided by open trade...pretty much the opposite of what I wrote...whoops.

True, true. Of course I would have said it "has some 'negatives' but are outweighed by..." But that's nitpicking. :poke:

fj1200
07-23-2012, 11:55 AM
OK. HERE IS A LINK..

While those were certainly links, they didn't exactly prove your posit.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-23-2012, 06:26 PM
While those were certainly links, they didn't exactly prove your posit.

They did for me.;)
Of course I didnt start from a position of progressive ignorance myself.:laugh2:

fj1200
07-24-2012, 09:01 AM
They did for me.;)
Of course I didnt start from a position of progressive ignorance myself.:laugh2:

No, you start from a whole different starting point of ignorance. And then you find something that encourages it further.

And please point out my "progressive" positions.