Making The Bus Monitor Cry

[Roo]

http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/making-bus-monitor-cry

I am speechless.

[SassyLady]

It's because our current progressive liberal culture promotes absolute free speech and no consequences. The bus monitor has no power to hand out consequences, thus the ignorant kids are in absolute power. Until we give power back to supervising adults this kind of behavior will grow exponentially.

[Nell's Room]

Someone should have punched those brats in the face and knocked their teeth out. Little shits.

[fj1200]

The bus monitor has no power to hand out consequences, thus the ignorant kids are in absolute power.

Defeats the purpose of a bus monitor. Bus riding should be a privilege, not a right, kick them off.

[Shadow]

It's because our current progressive liberal culture promotes absolute free speech and no consequences. The bus monitor has no power to hand out consequences, thus the ignorant kids are in absolute power. Until we give power back to supervising adults this kind of behavior will grow exponentially.

I don't belive it is a 'current progressive liberal culture' problem...unless the non progressives are just using that as an excuse. That would only be true if you only saw 'progressives' act this way. Have you seen message board culture lately? It is everyone that is doing it...and unfortunately they are teaching this shit to their children.

Giving power back to supervising adults ain't the problem. It starts with people thinking this behavor is okay in the first place.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Giving power back to supervising adults ain't the problem. It starts with people thinking this behavor is okay in the first place.

Yep, I agree and we have the exact same problem that we are going to fix November 2012.
When we send monkeyboy and his corrupt crew packing.-:laugh:--Tyr

[ConHog]

[/B]

Yep, I agree and we have the exact same problem that we are going to fix November 2012.
When we send monkeyboy and his corrupt crew packing.-:laugh:--Tyr

Yup , definitely Obama's fault that children misbehave. :rolleyes:

[Shadow]

Yup , definitely Obama's fault that children misbehave. :rolleyes:

It just chaps your ass that he is allowed to post here...after your campaign to run him off failed. Doesn't it.:laugh:
:laugh::laugh:
:laugh::laugh:

[Shadow]

[/B]

Yep, I agree and we have the exact same problem that we are going to fix November 2012.
When we send monkeyboy and his corrupt crew packing.-:laugh:--Tyr

Political activists are the worst. Obama's behind the scenes crew are especially vile. I don't respect anyone that uses teenage girls and a downs baby as a verbal punching bag.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Political activists are the worst. Obama's behind the scenes crew are especially vile. I don't respect anyone that uses teenage girls and a downs baby as a verbal punching bag.

Obama cut his teeth in Chicago politics. The dirtiest politics and dirtiest political machine ever in this nation(were Rahm Emanuel ran to!). Yet according to his fawning media , bamboy is as clean and pure as the wind driven snow! Bullshit!
They attacked and vilified a teenage girl and her child because they knew obama would turn a blind eye to it and they were correct on that. For they knew the man had no honor! And again they were correct! His having no honor is the problem and his doing the bidding of outside (foreign)interests(Soros) over that which is best for the health , security and economic prosperity of this nation has led us far down the road towards national destruction.
So, I did make the comparison and do say let's put real adults back in charge of our nation and not the boy wonder and his insane , corrupt crew of crying, whining socialist babies that aid him in destroying the Constitution and sinking us more trllions deeper into debt!-Tyr

[Abbey Marie]

Obama cut his teeth in Chicago politics. The dirtiest politics and dirtiest political machine ever in this nation(were Rahm Emanuel ran to!). Yet according to his fawning media , bamboy is as clean and pure as the wind driven snow! Bullshit!
They attacked and vilified a teenage girl and her child because they knew obama would turn a blind eye to it and they were correct on that. For they knew the man had no honor! And again they were correct! His having no honor is the problem and his doing the bidding of outside (foreign)interests(Soros) over that which is best for the health , security and economic prosperity of this nation has led us far down the road towards national destruction.
So, I did make the comparison and do say let's put real adults back in charge of our nation and not the boy wonder and his insane , corrupt crew of crying, whining socialist babies that aid him in destroying the Constitution and sinking us more trllions deeper into debt!-Tyr

Now, now, Tyr. At least our hyper sexually active college students can get all the free condoms they need. :rolleyes:

[Nukeman]

Someone should have punched those brats in the face and knocked their teeth out. Little shits.
REALLY!!! You're advocating violence of a minor.. WOW! just WOW weren't you the one in another thread that said we should let the legal system do its job? So are you know OK with having a criminal record of violence because they were "little brats" but a child molestor should just be handed to the police when caught in the act.. Un-freaking-believable.... YOU and others like you confuse the hell out of me!!!!!!!!!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Now, now, Tyr. At least our hyper sexually active college students can get all the free condoms they need. :rolleyes:


Yes, important issues like that take front stage with the boy wonder!
Things like extemely poor economy, lack of jobs, people losing their homes and millions more going on food stamps since his coronation arent quite as important.--Tyr

[jimnyc]

REALLY!!! You're advoxcating violence of a minor.. WOW! jsut WOW weren't you the one i other threads that said we should let the legal system do its job? So are you know OIK with having a criminal record of violence because they were "little brats" but a child molestor should just be handed to the police when caught in the act.. Un-freaking-believable.... YOU and others like you confuse the hell out of me!!!!!!!!!

You know, I read her comment and laughed at first. I kinda figured the little bastards needed some justice, of course not from me as a 43yr old....

But funny you caught that. She thinks we should let the justice system play out for child molestation, but don't pick on the bus monitor, then you get vigilante justice from her! LOL

Good catch! :lol:

[Shadow]

REALLY!!! You're advoxcating violence of a minor.. WOW! jsut WOW weren't you the one i other threads that said we should let the legal system do its job? So are you know OIK with having a criminal record of violence because they were "little brats" but a child molestor should just be handed to the police when caught in the act.. Un-freaking-believable.... YOU and others like you confuse the hell out of me!!!!!!!!!

I do believe she is also for sterilizing woman against their will if they are unfit mothers. I read that earlier. :thumb:

[Nukeman]

You know, I read her comment and laughed at first. I kinda figured the little bastards needed some justice, of course not from me as a 43yr old....

But funny you caught that. She thinks we should let the justice system play out for child molestation, but don't pick on the bus monitor, then you get vigilante justice from her! LOL

Good catch! :lol:Jim, you know that is typical liberalism at its finest. YOU have to agree with what they see as bad then everything is good as long as you AGREE with them. Personaly when the little shits talk about cutting her open that should be grounds for charges of threatening another with bodily harm..

Each of those little shits should have to go to that womans house with their parents and appologize!!! Hell make their parents ride the bus with them for a while so they can have some sense knocked into them!!!

[ConHog]

Jim, you know that is typical liberalism at its finest. YOU have to agree with what they see as bad then everything is good as long as you AGREE with them. Personaly when the little shits talk about cutting her open that should be grounds for charges of threatening another with bodily harm..

Each of those little shits should have to go to that womans house with their parents and appologize!!! Hell make their parents ride the bus with them for a while so they can have some sense knocked into them!!!

WUUTT!!! WOW I had my little one with me when I skimmed the video and missed that. Damn, that right there should be criminal charges. Pretty sure if you and I were out and about and one of us threatened to slice the other one open and a LEO heard it, one of us would be in trouble.

[DragonStryk72]

Kids need boundaries, and need to be put back across them by adults when they violate those lines. The main problem is parents, on both sides of the line, who have fully bought into this idea that children are fragile little snowflakes who can't possibly take even the least amount of real discipline. This leaves folks like this monitor in a horrible position where they can be bullied, and guess what? Bullies know this, that's why they talk like this to this woman, because they know there won't be any real consequences for them.

Monitors cannot fire back, lay hands on any child on the bus (Yes, even if they're stabbing her), and the worst punishment that most school bus companies do is a short suspension, 2~3 days. That's about it. So basically, the government has enforced that there must be monitors on buses to keep kids in line, then systematically removed their ability to do just that.

[fj1200]

[/B]

Yep, I agree and we have the exact same problem that we are going to fix November 2012.
When we send monkeyboy and his corrupt crew packing.-:laugh:--Tyr

Oh for God's sake.

[ConHog]

Oh for God's sake.

Easy hall monitor. that's good solid level headed debate supported with facts you're mocking there. :laugh:

[Shadow]

Easy hall monitor. that's good solid level headed debate supported with facts you're mocking there. :laugh:

Right...and we all know only certain people are allowed to call out...exagerate...mock...disrespect...and snark on this board. Write that down. :thumb:

[fj1200]

Right...and we all know only certain people are allowed to call out...exaggerate...mock...disrespect...and snark on this board. Write that down. :thumb:

Actually more people should do it when stupid comments are made rather than a bus thread become a BO b!tch thread.

[Shadow]

Actually more people should do it when stupid comments are made rather than a bus thread become a BO b!tch thread.

Good then I don't want to hear any more whining and bellyaching when the main snarkers...become the snarkees. :thumb:

[jimnyc]

Looks like some decent folk chipped in to help the monitor, in a big way!:<tt></tt>


But since being posted, thousands have left messages of support for Klein.

An online campaign was launched to raise money to send Klein on vacation. By midday Thursday, more than $307,000 was raised.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/21/video-of-middle-school-kids-bullying-upstate-bus-monitor-goes-viral/

[Shadow]

Looks like some decent folk chipped in to help the monitor, in a big way!:<tt></tt>



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/21/video-of-middle-school-kids-bullying-upstate-bus-monitor-goes-viral/

Yeah...I saw this too. A good friend of mine who lives in Maryland posted this on facebook and has been leading the charge among my friends asking everyone to chip in a few bucks. I believe he even promised to buy her dinner and drinks. ;)

[aboutime]

The parents, the school board, and the students should all be punished.
The parents should be fined, and made to ride those buses with THEIR SPOILED Ankle-biting idiots who are only impersonating what they obviously hear AT HOME.
All of the kids involved should be suspended, and Juvenile Courts should dole out harassment charges. Let them have records that FOLLOW them around for life.

[ConHog]

The parents, the school board, and the students should all be punished.
The parents should be fined, and made to ride those buses with THEIR SPOILED Ankle-biting idiots who are only impersonating what they obviously hear AT HOME.
All of the kids involved should be suspended, and Juvenile Courts should dole out harassment charges. Let them have records that FOLLOW them around for life.

the school board? certainly you can't hold them responsible here. Now if they don't take action? Yes, they are culpable for that, but they can't control some idiotic kids on a bus from afar.

[Nell's Room]

REALLY!!! You're advocating violence of a minor.. WOW! just WOW weren't you the one in another thread that said we should let the legal system do its job? So are you know OK with having a criminal record of violence because they were "little brats" but a child molestor should just be handed to the police when caught in the act.. Un-freaking-believable.... YOU and others like you confuse the hell out of me!!!!!!!!!

I guess you don't understand that people say things like this all the time, doesn't mean they mean it. Duh.

[Kathianne]

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP96e4beca84644d889c6d90af8ecdefc4.html




Updated June 21, 2012, 9:44 a.m. ET

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<cite>Associated Press</cite>ROCHESTER, N.Y. — A New York school bus monitor who was verbally assaulted by four middle schoolers, an attack that generated international outrage and an outpouring of support for the woman when a video of the taunts went viral, has told police she does not want the boys to face criminal charges.


The monitor, 68-year-old Karen Klein, told police she is happy with the swift and strong community response against the verbal attack aboard a Greece Central School District bus, which was captured in a 10-minute video, authorities said Thursday.


Criminally charging the boys, all seventh-graders, would require their conduct to rise to the level of a crime, Greece Police Capt. Steve Chatterton said. So far, it has not been found to reach that level...






Jim, you know that is typical liberalism at its finest. YOU have to agree with what they see as bad then everything is good as long as you AGREE with them. Personaly when the little shits talk about cutting her open that should be grounds for charges of threatening another with bodily harm..

Each of those little shits should have to go to that womans house with their parents and appologize!!! Hell make their parents ride the bus with them for a while so they can have some sense knocked into them!!!

The parents have said their children will be punished, I do believe after viewing this they are grateful she doesn't wish to press charges.


Kids need boundaries, and need to be put back across them by adults when they violate those lines. The main problem is parents, on both sides of the line, who have fully bought into this idea that children are fragile little snowflakes who can't possibly take even the least amount of real discipline. This leaves folks like this monitor in a horrible position where they can be bullied, and guess what? Bullies know this, that's why they talk like this to this woman, because they know there won't be any real consequences for them.

Monitors cannot fire back, lay hands on any child on the bus (Yes, even if they're stabbing her), and the worst punishment that most school bus companies do is a short suspension, 2~3 days. That's about it. So basically, the government has enforced that there must be monitors on buses to keep kids in line, then systematically removed their ability to do just that.

As a teacher, whether classroom or substitute, or carrying out duties, like lunch room monitor, I certainly wouldn't want to enter into any physical response with students. Now I will say right now, that the one kid who kept flipping at her hair, I would have brought charges against. I don't touch the students, they must not touch me.


Looks like some decent folk chipped in to help the monitor, in a big way!:



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/21/video-of-middle-school-kids-bullying-upstate-bus-monitor-goes-viral/ Seems they are raising enough for this lady to retire, comfortably. I'm so glad that those minutes of torment, that could have made her feel terrible, have turned into something so much better!

[avatar4321]

The kids in this video are dead inside. I see them everyday in court. We need to change this. The only way to do this is to take care of our children and get the Spirit in our lives so that we can show others the difference.

[Nukeman]

I guess you don't understand that people say things like this all the time, doesn't mean they mean it. Duh.No what I see is YOU back pedaling because you were caught being a hypocrite.

So you either feel they should be punished or you feel they shouldn't since after all "you don't really mean it" So which is it??:poke:

[darin]

Yeah, I'd probablly whoop my kids' arse if they did something so terrible.

But they wont...because I've loved them enough to beat their butts years ago. (shrug).

:(

Parenting Fail - that's the entire reason behind those brats' behaviour.

[taft2012]

It just chaps your ass that he is allowed to post here...after your campaign to run him off failed. Doesn't it.:laugh:
:laugh::laugh:
:laugh::laugh:

I don't that's his concern. I get the impression there's a long line of guys standing by with lotion to salve his chapped ass.

[SassyLady]

I don't belive it is a 'current progressive liberal culture' problem...unless the non progressives are just using that as an excuse. That would only be true if you only saw 'progressives' act this way. Have you seen message board culture lately? It is everyone that is doing it...and unfortunately they are teaching this shit to their children.

Giving power back to supervising adults ain't the problem. It starts with people thinking this behavor is okay in the first place.

Ok, I'll take out the word "liberal". You are right ... although there are plenty of parents who are defying the norm and handing down consequences to their children who participate in this behavior, it is a reflection of our society.

My beef is with the "progressive culture" taking away the ability to hand down consequences because it might "offend" someone, or "infringe" upon their rights.

When our culture has gotten so "crass" that a bus monitor doesn't report being abused like this because she knows "nothing will be done" .... is pathetic.

[Shadow]

Ok, I'll take out the word "liberal". You are right ... although there are plenty of parents who are defying the norm and handing down consequences to their children who participate in this behavior, it is a reflection of our society.

My beef is with the "progressive culture" taking away the ability to hand down consequences because it might "offend" someone, or "infringe" upon their rights.

When our culture has gotten so "crass" that a bus monitor doesn't report being abused like this because she knows "nothing will be done" .... is pathetic.

I agree. But isn't that what we are told? Just as an example...when I brought up new laws around cyberstalking/bullying in NM. first two replies back were that NM would never enforce them anyway so good luck....since they suck at enforcing their DWI laws. So, basically, the thought was...no one should bother or worry about it.

I agree these kids act this way because they know rules will not be enforced...and if they are they will be pretty mild in most cases. Probably a day or two of detention or at most suspension from school.

And ,yes, I know there are some parents out there that do defy the norm...yet in this case...these kids are still monsters.

[aboutime]

[/B]

Yep, I agree and we have the exact same problem that we are going to fix November 2012.
When we send monkeyboy and his corrupt crew packing.-:laugh:--Tyr


What we are seeing almost everywhere in this nation is. The absence of leadership, and obedience to laws that can easily be broken, and ignored.
Obama is just the latest example of Ignoring the differences between Right, and Wrong. And most of America is just DOING WHAT OBAMA IS DOING.
Much like what we saw with Clinton, and his Monica BJ when he told American teens...A BJ isn't sex.
No wonder the Teen Birth rate has gone down. Now they all have STD's in their Teeth, and Gums.

[Kathianne]

I agree. But isn't that what we are told? Just as an example...when I brought up new laws around cyberstalking/bullying in NM. first two replies back were that NM would never enforce them anyway so good luck....since they suck at enforcing their DWI laws. So, basically, the thought was...no one should bother or worry about it.

I agree these kids act this way because they know rules will not be enforced...and if they are they will be pretty mild in most cases. Probably a day or two of detention or at most suspension from school.

And ,yes, I know there are some parents out there that do defy the norm...yet in this case...these kids are still monsters.

Yep, the fact that it hit youtube, then the video hit the media is what caused the controls to be put on the kids. While impossible to be certain given the circumstances, my guess is that the lady would have pressed charges if publicity hadn't come. I'm not saying they money, someone working all those years for $15k per year, isn't and wasn't in it for the money. However, without the pressure brought through youtube, she would have to do something to make the harassment stop.

[Kathianne]

Defeats the purpose of a bus monitor. Bus riding should be a privilege, not a right, kick them off.

Our district does, I know. My son was kicked off the bus for the remainder of the year in 5th grade, in September. Not a problem for me, he had to walk the mile each way. He deserved it.

[Nell's Room]

No what I see is YOU back pedaling because you were caught being a hypocrite.

So you either feel they should be punished or you feel they shouldn't since after all "you don't really mean it" So which is it??:poke:

Of course they should be fucking punished. And I am sure you have said things you didn't mean. I guess its okay for you, though.:rolleyes:

[Kathianne]

Of course they should be fucking punished. And I am sure you have said things you didn't mean. I guess its okay for you, though.:rolleyes:

Sounds to me like Nell needs to clarify.

[WiccanLiberal]

It is interesting that some people seem to associate this behavior with the current occupant of the White House. I have seen this issue escalating over the past 30 years. I am sure my perception is a conservative estimate. I know where the problem originates. An example will illustrate. Many years ago, my mother's young male cousin began returning from school every day with complaints of leg pain. He never had a problem on weekends but only school days. On the day of the parent-teacher meeting, his mother went to meet with his teacher. Her son's academic performance was adequate, but not remarkable. Toward the end of the meeting she asked if the teacher knew of anything her son was doing that might overstrain his legs. The teacher shook her head and said that since he was behaving poorly just about every day, using bad language and teasing the other kids, she told him he was acting like trash and was going to be treated like trash. She then made him stand in the waste basket. That was when he got the spanking - from his mother - who was embarrassed that her son was aggravating Sister. The idea of providing consistent discipline between the schools and the parents has disappeared. KIDS HAVE NO JUDGEMENT! yet many parents allow them to do as they please without restraint and then shake their heads when they do things like this. They are allowing savages to grow up in our midst and expect them to somehow develop civilized manners at age 21. Foolish hope. These are the same kids who grow up to be the ill-mannered morons on the train with me in the afternoon, the ones in nice dresses and business suits who push past pregnant woman and the disabled, who hide in the rest room to avoid the fare and who curse at you when you ask them to tone down the cell phone conversation about their latest dirty business trick (all things I have seen in the past two weeks). This is not a political problem, it is a family problem.

[DragonStryk72]

As a teacher, whether classroom or substitute, or carrying out duties, like lunch room monitor, I certainly wouldn't want to enter into any physical response with students. Now I will say right now, that the one kid who kept flipping at her hair, I would have brought charges against. I don't touch the students, they must not touch me.

But I would like the ability to defend myself if the kid is physically assaulting me. We've had monitors here in NY who have been stabbed by their students, and get fired. Why? Because they grabbed the kid that was stabbing them and shoved them away. Yeah, apparently our monitors are horrible child abusers because they'd really rather not be stabbed.

I'm not even necessarily talking about physical responses, but at least untie the hands of the monitor, and give them the authority to do the job they are supposed to be doing. It's like making a cop, then telling them they can't arrest anyone, or carry/use a weapon of any kind. How much respect, exactly, are they going to get from the people they're supposed to be keeping in line?

I mean, as a teacher, you can give detentions, talk back to an extent, and and even move to have a child suspended or expelled for their behavior, to say nothing of the ability to effect their grades. The bitch of it at my school was that they would throw you on in-school suspension, and the baseline of it was 1 week. You had to sit in a small white-walled classroom in the basement that had no windows to look out of, and you could bring only the supplies necessary for your current schoolwork (which they would have a list of). Lunch would be brought in to you, and you would be escorted to your bus at the end of the day.

[Abbey Marie]

Actually more people should do it when stupid comments are made rather than a bus thread become a BO b!tch thread.

Not sure why you care about such a little comment? I don't think we need to worry about every stray comment in a thread.

And after all, we do have a Presidential election a few months, and many people are very concerned about the outcome.

[Abbey Marie]

Our district does, I know. My son was kicked off the bus for the remainder of the year in 5th grade, in September. Not a problem for me, he had to walk the mile each way. He deserved it.

If more parents acted like you, we'd have much better schools. Instead, we tend to have screaming parents and lawsuits if their little darlings are disciplined in any way. And in my experience, the (public schools) District will cave every time.

[Shadow]

Was just reading this article (unbelievable)...hey Kathianne... what does this remind you of?


Bullying of teachers more damaging in online era

MIAMI (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&where1=MIAMI&sty=h&form=msdate) — The bullying that bus monitor Karen Klein endured on a ride home from an upstate New York school was painful and egregious, but also shows how student harassment of teachers and administrators has become more spiteful and damaging in the online era. Much attention has been paid to students who bully students in class, after school and on the Internet. Less has been given to equally disturbing behavior by students who harass instructors, principals and other adults.
It's something that's long existed; think ganging up on the substitute teacher. But it has become increasingly cruel and even dangerous as students get access to advanced technology at earlier ages.
In Maryland, students posed as their vice principal's twin 9-year-old daughters on pedophile websites, saying they had been having sex with their father and were looking for a new partner. Elsewhere, students have logged on to neo-Nazi and white supremacist sites claiming to be a Jewish or minority teacher and inciting the groups' anger. Others have stolen photographs from teachers' cellphones and posted them online.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47931496/ns/technology_and_science-security/

[Nell's Room]

Sounds to me like Nell needs to clarify.

How many times have people said things they don't mean? Do people not understand that they can't take everything literally? If someone said 'We should bomb the crap out of Iran', do they really mean it, or are they just voicing their frustration and anger?

But besides that...

The donations to this woman has passed six hundred thousand dollars. It was fifty thousand less when I checked last night. At the end of the next 27 days, she'll be a millionaire, I bet. That's some pretty cool stuff. People do care about things like this. Bullying affects not only the victim, but also the people around them, and that is shown by the generosity shown by so many.

[fj1200]

Good then I don't want to hear any more whining and bellyaching when the main snarkers...become the snarkees. :thumb:

Calling out dumb comments =/= snark.


Not sure why you care about such a little comment? I don't think we need to worry about every stray comment in a thread.

And after all, we do have a Presidential election a few months, and many people are very concerned about the outcome.

Because It looks poorly on the board IMO. So a bullied bus monitor is directly related to the election? :rolleyes:

[Shadow]

Calling out dumb comments =/= snark.





Calling out stupid comments with snide/sarcastic comments (that are equally stupid) does = snark. Especially when most of them are followed by --> :rolleyes:

[fj1200]

Calling out stupid comments with snide/sarcastic comments (that are equally stupid) does = snark. Especially when most of them are followed by --> :rolleyes:

Sometimes snark is most appropriate but :rolleyes: is not always snark.

Shall I get buckled in for three pages of snark definition?

[ConHog]

Sometimes snark is most appropriate but :rolleyes: is not always snark.

Shall I get buckled in for three pages of snark definition?

to be followed by 3 pages of complaining only when certain people do it no doubt.

[Shadow]

Sometimes snark is most appropriate but :rolleyes: is not always snark.

Shall I get buckled in for three pages of snark definition?

Go for it. You are the semantics expert after all. :thumb:

[aboutime]

Go for it. You are the semantics expert after all. :thumb:


Most of this week. I have been reading about Snarks, and Fires here on the forums about certain members.
Would someone kindly explain who, and how anyone FLAMES, or SNARKES other members with such expertise?
And, does being capable of either make someone special...other than to themselves?

By the way. Those who claim to be Semantics experts are nothing but Rhetorical Phonies!

[Shadow]

Most of this week. I have been reading about Snarks, and Fires here on the forums about certain members.
Would someone kindly explain who, and how anyone FLAMES, or SNARKES other members with such expertise?
And, does being capable of either make someone special...other than to themselves?

By the way. Those who claim to be Semantics experts are nothing but Rhetorical Phonies!

We should just wait until FJ releases the memo on that I think. Wouldn't want him to have to correct us or anything. :laugh:

[aboutime]

We should just wait until FJ releases the memo on that I think. Wouldn't want him to have to correct us or anything. :laugh:

I guess I can wait. God forbid we might say something that needs to be corrected, even before we say it.

[fj1200]

Go for it. You are the semantics expert after all. :thumb:

I am?


By the way. Those who claim to be Semantics experts are nothing but Rhetorical Phonies!

I'm not sure who that would be. Shadow seems to be the one making claims. ;)

[ConHog]

I am?



I'm not sure who that would be. Shadow seems to be the one making claims. ;)

That's a favored game of children.

"you're the ________ expert"

then later

"see _______ claims to be a _________ expert"

LOL

[Shadow]

That's a favored game of children.

"you're the ________ expert"

then later

"see _______ claims to be a _________ expert"

LOL

Could your head BE any farther up his ass these days? I think not. :laugh2:

[Abbey Marie]

Calling out dumb comments =/= snark.



Because It looks poorly on the board IMO. So a bullied bus monitor is directly related to the election? :rolleyes:

Where did I say it was directly related? You are better than that, fj. :salute:

I disagree that it reflects poorly on the board. It is one small comment. And one that likely would have gone unnoticed if you had not put a spotlight on it.

[fj1200]

Where did I say it was directly related? You are better than that, fj.

So is this board. You didn't say it was directly related but a BO comment in this thread? Come on.


I disagree that it reflects poorly on the board. It is one small comment. and one that likely would have gone unnoticed if you had not put a spotlight on it.

We can agree to disagree on that but it's not one small comment. Why does the election even need to come up in this thread?

[ConHog]

So is this board. You didn't say it was directly related but a BO comment in this thread? Come on.



We can agree to disagree on that but it's not one small comment. Why does the election even need to come up in this thread?

It's acceptable and in fact encouraged to blame EVERYTHING on Obama no matter how tangential the connection.

[Abbey Marie]

So is this board. You didn't say it was directly related but a BO comment in this thread? Come on.



We can agree to disagree on that but it's not one small comment. Why does the election even need to come up in this thread?

How is it not one small comment?

People can pretty much comment as they wish here. Everyone has their style, and very few people stay strictly on point. We generally do not police comments here. Especially to that extent.

You can feel free to ignore a sentence any time in any thread. Ironically, this thread has been far more disrupted by your complaint about the sentence, than by the sentence itself.

[fj1200]

How is it not one small comment?

People can pretty much comment as they wish here. Everyone has their style, and very few people stay strictly on point. We generally do not police comments here. Especially to that extent.

You can feel free to ignore a sentence any time in any thread. Ironically, this thread has been far more disrupted by your complaint about the sentence, than by the sentence itself.

Which is sad.

[Nell's Room]

$641,807 raised so far!

[gabosaurus]

This whole thing sounds suspicious to me.
First of all, is this the first time that the bullying has occurred? If so, strange that it would happened to be filmed and posted on the internet.
Sorry to be questioning, but it seems like a set up to me.

ALSO...
Does there have to be an Obama reference in EVERY dang thread on this forum? Is it really that serious to people? (Besides the racists, of course :p )

[ConHog]

This whole thing sounds suspicious to me.
First of all, is this the first time that the bullying has occurred? If so, strange that it would happened to be filmed and posted on the internet.
Sorry to be questioning, but it seems like a set up to me.

ALSO...
Does there have to be an Obama reference in EVERY dang thread on this forum? Is it really that serious to people? (Besides the racists, of course :p )

Your a stupid liberal jerk. The dark monkey wants to destroy amerika



Sorry gabs gotta get my dp cred back up :lol:

[gabosaurus]

Sorry Con. We all know you are a closet liberal at heart. The swim suit photo of Nancy Pelosi on your computer monitor gives you away. :cool:

[ConHog]

Sorry Con. We all know you are a closet liberal at heart. The swim suit photo of Nancy Pelosi on your computer monitor gives you away. :cool:


Liar how would you know what was on my desktop when you spent your entire visit under my desk

[gabosaurus]

Liar how would you know what was on my desktop when you spent your entire visit under my desk

If you could fix your own computer I wouldn't have to come over. :eek:

[ConHog]

If you could fix your own computer I wouldn't have to come over. :eek:

If you were my pc tech id be breaking my computer in purpose

[logroller]

It just chaps your ass that he is allowed to post here...after your campaign to run him off failed. Doesn't it.:laugh:
:laugh::laugh:
:laugh::laugh:
I think that's unfair. CH posted a reasonably smartass remark that pointed out an obviously misplaced statement. Maybe chick does eat too many twinkies; doesn't make it ok to taunt. Lots o smilies doesn't make it funny IMHO.

[Binky]

I find it dispicable. In a country where one can be anything he or she wishes and works for it, we have allowed people to be treated as turds to be stepped on. Heck even an animal is allowed to fight back spitting, hissing or biting. It's like giving someone the power to do something and then taking away their tools to do it.

And you can't tell me the parents of those kids haven't seen or heard their child displaying such actions before. What the heck goes on in someones home that makes a child want to cause pain by bullying others? It boggles the mind. Too bad in America those kids can't get a belt or board used on their precious little backsides. Maybe then they'd show some respect to others. Sickening.

[logroller]

... Too bad in America those kids can't get a belt or board used on their precious little backsides.
They can't??? Guess that means my house is sovereign territory.:salute:

[aboutime]

I find it dispicable. In a country where one can be anything he or she wishes and works for it, we have allowed people to be treated as turds to be stepped on. Heck even an animal is allowed to fight back spitting, hissing or biting. It's like giving someone the power to do something and then taking away their tools to do it.

And you can't tell me the parents of those kids haven't seen or heard their child displaying such actions before. What the heck goes on in someones home that makes a child want to cause pain by bullying others? It boggles the mind. Too bad in America those kids can't get a belt or board used on their precious little backsides. Maybe then they'd show some respect to others. Sickening.


This sounds like the perfect thread, when discussing poor parents who pretend they know nothing about how their children Bully others...that we should combine this with "DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE"...Waterboard the parents of those children. TWO PROBLEMS solved.

[Binky]

They can't??? Guess that means my house is sovereign territory.:salute:


Since we've become a nation that noses into other people business and yells abuse when someone sees a kid being spanked, I'd say you're fortunate no one has called the gestopo on you yet. :cheerss: