door-to-door RAW MILK confiscation teams -CA-

[revelarts]

door-to-door raw milk confiscation teams in California for you safty.
This is crazy, This RAW MILK raid stuff makes no common sense at all.
there's no good reason for gov't spend a dime or 10 minutes on this stuff.


(NaturalNews) In a bombshell revelation of the depth of the food police state that now exists in LA County, California, NaturalNews has learned that the LA County health department has unleashed door-to-door raw milk confiscation teams to threaten and intimidate raw dairy customers into surrendering raw milk products they legally purchased and own.

According to Mark McAfee (see quotes below), both LA County and San Diego county have attempted to acquire customer names and addresses from Organic Pastures (www.OrganicPastures.com (http://www.OrganicPastures.com)) for the sole purpose of sending "food confiscation teams" to customers' homes to remove the raw milk from customers' refrigerators. Using both phone calls and home visits, these teams intimidate customers and try to force them to give up their milk.

These revelations have surfaced in a recorded NaturalNews interview with Mark McAfee, the founder of Organic Pastures and a food rights advocate. Here's what he told us:

LA County health enforcers go door to door, demanding your fresh milk"I received a phone call yesterday morning from a wonderful young gal, a 36-year-old mom out of LA County. She's one of our UPS customers that we deliver overnight raw milk to her house. When the CDFA was in here the other day on our recall, they demanded to have all our delivery addresses for overnight UPS delivery. We screwed up and [inadvertently] gave it to them, they got it from one of our secretaries here. The LA County health department started calling her, six or seven times, demanding that she give up her raw milk from her own home to the health department.

She refused, then they showed up at her house and demanded that she give her raw milk to them. She was getting ready to call 911 for the Sheriff's department and have them removed from her front doorstep, and she was threatening to use her camera to take a picture of them and post it on Facebook for harassing her over her raw milk... The investigators left after she told them she was not going to give them the raw milk and to get the Hell off her property.

This is what's going on, it's like food Nazis, it's incredible what these people are doing, trying to collect food from people's houses, that have not made them ill!

Then the San Diego health department called me up and said oh we want a list of all your buyer's club members, and I said no... and they said we want all their addresses and their names, because we want to go to their homes. I said it ain't happening, we aren't going to give it to you.".....


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035895_food_police_raw_milk_confiscation.html#ixzz 1v9FzZmSi

[jimnyc]

California!!! I never would have thunk it!! :lol:

[ConHog]

raw milk is disgusting, and may in fact not be good for you; but people should be able to milk their own cows and drink it if they wish.

[Abbey Marie]

Isn't breast milk raw?

[Trigg]

raw milk is disgusting, and may in fact not be good for you; but people should be able to milk their own cows and drink it if they wish.


have you ever tried it???


Raw simply means unpasturized and we had it growing up since we milked our goats. It's actually very good for people who are lactose intolerant, and it makes great ice cream.

[Thunderknuckles]

Isn't breast milk raw?
They're comin' for your boobies!!
:joy4:

[Thunderknuckles]

Here it is straight from LA County:
http://admin.publichealth.lacounty.gov/eh/recall/currentRecall.htm?func=1&Food=food

Interesting to note that the person responsible for most of the food recalls that I can see is the California State Veterinarian, Dr. Annette Whiteford. She was appointed in 2010 by Jerry Brown I think.

[ConHog]

have you ever tried it???


Raw simply means unpasturized and we had it growing up since we milked our goats. It's actually very good for people who are lactose intolerant, and it makes great ice cream.

Yep grandparents had dairy cattle when i was younger. Nasty. First thing i did when i took over the farm was sell the dairy cattle.

I want my milk decreamed and pasteurized thank you

[logroller]

have you ever tried it???


Raw simply means unpasturized and we had it growing up since we milked our goats. It's actually very good for people who are lactose intolerant, and it makes great ice cream.

I don't think it was because of being raw, but b/c it was goat milk that it works for those who're lactose intolerant. I drank goat milk growing up due to lactose intolerance, pasteurized though; very pungent. I had milk at a camp when I was young; also butchered a cow. Not sure if it was pasteurized, but it definitely wasn't decreamed. I liked it, and I bet it would of made amazing ice cream. So rich. I have noticed that organic milk has a funny taste if it's not ultrapasteurized.

[SassyLady]

I don't think it was because of being raw, but b/c it was goat milk that it works for those who're lactose intolerant. I drank goat milk growing up due to lactose intolerance, pasteurized though; very pungent. I had milk at a camp when I was young; also butchered a cow. Not sure if it was pasteurized, but it definitely wasn't decreamed. I liked it, and I bet it would of made amazing ice cream. So rich. I have noticed that organic milk has a funny taste if it's not ultrapasteurized.

I grew up on milk straight from cows and goats. I don't understand why there is such an uproar if it's from your own animals.

We used to make butter almost daily from the cream ... provided there was any left after we all had to have some on our cereal. To this day I love cream on my cereal.

[logroller]

I grew up on milk straight from cows and goats. I don't understand why there is such an uproar if it's from your own animals.

We used to make butter almost daily from the cream ... provided there was any left after we all had to have some on our cereal. To this day I love cream on my cereal.

I thought the OP was about commercial distribution.
That's funny you' have cream on your cereal; I'll have to try it. Modern food tech is just weird. I read somewhere there's like 40000 regulations involved in bringing a big mac to market. For example, they add sesame seeds because the flour they use has been stripped of most all of its vitamins-- that's actually done to meet a regulation on minimum vitamin content. I believe that's the same for any "enriched" product.

[SassyLady]

I thought the OP was about commercial distribution.
That's funny you' have cream on your cereal; I'll have to try it. Modern food tech is just weird. I read somewhere there's like 40000 regulations involved in bringing a big mac to market. For example, they add sesame seeds because the flour they use has been stripped of most all of its vitamins-- that's actually done to meet a regulation on minimum vitamin content. I believe that's the same for any "enriched" product.

Well, a lot of people belong to a "cow share" program. Purchasing a "share" of a cow allows you to have rights to the milk produced by that cow as an owner. However, the FDA is trying to bypass that right by saying:




The Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund (FTCLDF), an organization whose mission includes "defending the rights and broadening the freedoms of family farms and protecting consumer access to raw milk and nutrient dense foods", recently filed a lawsuit against the FDA for its ban on interstate sales of raw milk. The suit alleges that such a restriction is a direct violation of the United States Constitution. Nevertheless, the suit led to a surprisingly cold response from the FDA about its views on food freedom (http://www.naturalnews.com/food_freedom.html) (and freedoms in general).

In a dismissal notice issued to the Iowa District Court where the suit was filed (http://www.thecompletepatient.com/storage/ds%20mtd%20memo%20in%20support.pdf) , the FDA officially made public its views on health and food freedom (http://www.naturalnews.com/freedom.html) . These views will shock you, but they reveal the true evil intent of the FDA (http://www.naturalnews.com/the_FDA.html) and why it is truly a rogue federal agency.

The FDA (http://www.naturalnews.com/FDA.html) essentially believes that nobody has the right to choose what to eat or drink. You are only "allowed" to eat or drink what the FDA gives you permission to. There is no inherent right or God-given right to consume any foods (http://www.naturalnews.com/foods.html) from nature without the FDA's consent.

This is no exaggeration. It's exactly what the FDA said in its own words.

Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.com/028757_raw_milk_FDA.html#ixzz1vUXZ7DQr

[Noir]

Firstly, I think these door to door peoples need the constitution quoted to them (14th iirc?) and secondly they is a lot of ignorence about milk, some of it coming to the surface here, but as Trigg said 'raw' milk is better at not producing a tolerance reaction, and it takes less calcium away from the body, so it is better for you than pasteurized milk. (though it has to be said, not much.)

[ConHog]

Firstly, I think these door to door peoples need the constitution quoted to them (14th iirc?) and secondly they is a lot of ignorence about milk, some of it coming to the surface here, but as Trigg said 'raw' milk is better at not producing a tolerance reaction, and it takes less calcium away from the body, so it is better for you than pasteurized milk. (though it has to be said, not much.)

milk doesn't take calcium away from the body. Now perhaps you meant to say it doesn't provide as MUCH calcium as raw milk. But I find that claim unlikely as well given that they add calcium to store bought milk.

[Noir]

milk doesn't take calcium away from the body. Now perhaps you meant to say it doesn't provide as MUCH calcium as raw milk. But I find that claim unlikely as well given that they add calcium to store bought milk.

Nope.
The logic goes like this -
Calcium is good for your bones.
Milk is full of calcium.
Therefore milk is good for your bones.

That is an understandable logic, however, it leaves out a lot of very important details. For example, cows milk is packed with animal proteins that our digestive system
isnt designed for (which should be self explanatory since its cows milk we're drinking) these proteins turn to acids in our stomachs, which the body has to neutralize. The best substence in the human body for but railing acid is...calcium. Thus calcium that should be being used to help build bones is infancy being used as an acid neutralizer.


I don't have the links to hand as I'm not back home yet, but a simple google search will how you the experiments carried out that prove this to be the case. It is a feat of amazingly unashamed irony that even given the science the milk industry still promote themselves as good for bones.

[darin]

Nope.
The logic goes like this -
Calcium is good for your bones.
Milk is full of calcium.
Therefore milk is good for your bones.

That is an understandable logic, however, it leaves out a lot of very important details. For example, cows milk is packed with animal proteins that our digestive system
isnt designed for (which should be self explanatory since its cows milk we're drinking) these proteins turn to acids in our stomachs, which the body has to neutralize. The best substence in the human body for but railing acid is...calcium. Thus calcium that should be being used to help build bones is infancy being used as an acid neutralizer.


I don't have the links to hand as I'm not back home yet, but a simple google search will how you the experiments carried out that prove this to be the case. It is a feat of amazingly unashamed irony that even given the science the milk industry still promote themselves as good for bones.

Proteins do not 'turn into acids'. All animal protein increases pH levels - that what you meant? That increase isn't proprietary to milk.

Misleading to say our bodies aren't designed for animal proteins; especially from an evolutionist. If 'we evolved' as omnivores our entire system therefore IS designed for animal proteins - as well as whatever else we ate 10,000 years ago.

:)

[MtnBiker]

Isn't California vastly over budget and have a huge deficit? Why is the state spending money on this?

[jimnyc]

Isn't California vastly over budget and have a huge deficit? Why is the state spending money on this?

Because those in charge out there aren't very bright? :beer:

[logroller]

Isn't California vastly over budget and have a huge deficit? Why is the state spending money on this?

hmmm, well I think the FDA is still federal. But you bring up an interesting point; does the dairy lobby not like competition from grass roots dairy farmers?

[darin]

hmmm, well I think the FDA is still federal. But you bring up an interesting point; does the dairy lobby not like competition from grass roots dairy farmers?

ALWAYS, ALWAYS follow the money in cases like these, smoking laws, and speed-enforcement.


In Western WA the Native-American-owned casinos lobbied and spent MILLIONS to convince voters to pass a 'no public smoking' law; law which, not surprisingly, did NOT apply to their casinos.

Cities in Michigan were illegally setting or maintaining their speed limits in the face of state law...they didn't want to lose the revenue by raising the limit to the speed the vast-majority were already driving.

Bremerton WA, the city used emminent domain to sieze the home and land of an old lady; all in the name of building a water-treatment facility (or expansion thereof). Big shock, as soon as the land-grab was complete they decided to sell to the next-door Car dealership.

[MtnBiker]

hmmm, well I think the FDA is still federal.


Well, the article cited county health departments as the enforcement.

[Noir]

Proteins do not 'turn into acids'. All animal protein increases pH levels - that what you meant? That increase isn't proprietary to milk.

Misleading to say our bodies aren't designed for animal proteins; especially from an evolutionist. If 'we evolved' as omnivores our entire system therefore IS designed for animal proteins - as well as whatever else we ate 10,000 years ago.

:)

No, it turns too acid, cows milk contains sulphur bound amino acids that are metabolised into sulphuric acid. Since the human body has no store of magnesium to counter this it uses the next best thing, calcium.

We are designed by evolution to cope better with some things that others. What is clear is the human body is not equipped to cope with cows milk, if you want to see an animals stomach and body that is designed for it, look to, er, calves.

It is scientifically proven that higher milk diets lead to weaker bones (more likely to suffer from breaks etc) and (amazingly imo) total failure of some bones to grow at all, and linked rather ironically with osteoporosis. (not to mention kidney stones, arthritis etc)

[darin]

raw milk is disgusting, and may in fact not be good for you; but people should be able to milk their own cows and drink it if they wish.

You're a hard one to figure - with SOME laws you say things about "the law is the law! If you break it, you break it - no excuses"

Then, in this thread you say "Well, the law is silly. I don't agree with the act, but people should be able to choose"


No, it turns too acid, cows milk contains sulphur bound amino acids that are metabolised into sulphuric acid. Since the human body has no store of magnesium to counter this it uses the next best thing, calcium.

We are designed by evolution to cope better with some things that others. What is clear is the human body is not equipped to cope with cows milk, if you want to see an animals stomach and body that is designed for it, look to, er, calves.

It is scientifically proven that higher milk diets lead to weaker bones (more likely to suffer from breaks etc) and (amazingly imo) total failure of some bones to grow at all, and linked rather ironically with osteoporosis. (not to mention kidney stones, arthritis etc)


You're missing my point - nothing within milk makes it different than other things with proteins. Your claims of things 'turning into' don't hold water because you haven't demonstrated the things that 'milk turns into' are bad.

It's NOT a scientifically proven fact - it's a conclusion on research. Not ALL research is scientific - much less the interpretation. Perhaps there's a correlation between high cow-milk diets and weaker bones. Correlation is not causation.

And again - if we magically evolved eating ALL kinds of animal proteins, our magic evolution SHOULD have us prepared, no? :)

[Noir]

You're missing my point - nothing within milk makes it different than other things with proteins. Your claims of things 'turning into' don't hold water because you haven't demonstrated the things that 'milk turns into' are bad.

Ofcourse, sulphuric acid is great for out bodies...Also the excess calcium that can not be absorbed because of the way our bodies can not not process the milk turns to a tar like substance that causes atherosclerotic plaques, kidney stones, gout etc.


It's NOT a scientifically proven fact - it's a conclusion on research. Not ALL research is scientific - much less the interpretation. Perhaps there's a correlation between high cow-milk diets and weaker bones. Correlation is not causation.

Except it is, google is your friend.


And again - if we magically evolved eating ALL kinds of animal proteins, our magic evolution SHOULD have us prepared, no? :)

This is beyond stupid, and i can't convince myself that you don;t see that yourself.