Backlash grows at N.Y. ruling on viewing of child porn

[jimnyc]

Couldn't find the original thread, but the facts are in this article and it's still worthy of discussing...


In the wake of a New York court ruling that says it’s not illegal to “merely” view online child pornography, child advocates are urging Internet-savvy federal prosecutors to take over these kinds of cases as two state lawmakers rush to fix the law.

It is “a singular outrage that the highest court in New York has decriminalized the act of viewing child pornography by computer,” Patrick Trueman, president and chief executive of Morality in Media, said after the May 8 ruling by the New York Court of Appeals.

The high court unanimously agreed to reverse two of the dozens of child-pornography counts against a former college professor, saying there was no evidence the professor did more than look at some images on his computer.

The ruling resulted in a spate of head-spinning headlines like Gawker.com’s “Viewing Child Porn Online Officially A-OK in New York State” and “Looking at Child Porn Is Totally Legal in New York State” by the Atlantic Wire.

Mr. Trueman, a former federal prosecutor, said that until the law is fixed, all child-pornography cases in New York “that cannot now be prosecuted in New York state courts as a result of the court’s decision” should be handled in federal court by U.S. attorneys and prosecutors with the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.

“This will mean that there will be a lot more child porn cases in the federal system, but it is a much better situation than letting these child pornographers go,” Mr. Trueman said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/13/backlash-grows-at-ruling-on-viewing-of-child-porn/

[avatar4321]

To be fair, they did just rule that viewing was not possessing. And I think they are right about that. There should be a backlash. The legislature needs to get off its butt and fix this as soon as possible.

[darin]

The backlash - heck, ANY backlash is from people with an agenda. The problem isn't with the viewer; but the creator. Find the source of the images. Prosecute fully and harshly.

[ConHog]

And while were at it make any program that hijacks or redirects a browser illegal as well. I should never go to any website i didnt intnd to go to. Thats half the problem here

[Abbey Marie]

And while were at it make any program that hijacks or redirects a browser illegal as well. I should never go to any website i didnt intnd to go to. Thats half the problem here

The accused here didn't contend it was accidental viewing...

[Wind Song]

I'm not sure I get the point here. The backlash is that NY doesn't consider "merely" viewing child porn to be illegal? Do states have the right to make their own laws or not?

Me, I'd like to see child porn wiped off the face of the earth, and every perpetrator face serious consequences.

[darin]

Me, I'd like to see child porn...

When I started reading, I drifted my attention after I read that part; had to stop and go back to make sure you weren't COMPLETELY Flaked out. You may want to consider how you word things. Once I read "...this command will execute a anti-suicide program..." Execute? really? :)



I'm not sure I get the point here. The backlash is that NY doesn't consider "merely" viewing child porn to be illegal? Do states have the right to make their own laws or not?

Me, I'd like to see child porn wiped off the face of the earth, and every perpetrator face serious consequences.

[Wind Song]

When I started reading, I drifted my attention after I read that part; had to stop and go back to make sure you weren't COMPLETELY Flaked out. You may want to consider how you word things. Once I read "...this command will execute a anti-suicide program..." Execute? really? :)

You just altered my post. How fucked up is that? You starting a rumor that I like child porn?

[Gator Monroe]

Progressives & Far Left fully support NAMBLA & their GLBT allies , Windy just has to realize that the GLBT crowd is more DIVERSE than she may be happy with .

[darin]

You just altered my post. How fucked up is that? You starting a rumor that I like child porn?

And how fucked up are you for failing to READ what I wrote?

Try www.hop.com - might help?

[Gator Monroe]

Progressives & Far Left fully support NAMBLA & their GLBT allies , Windy just has to realize that the GLBT crowd is more DIVERSE than she may be happy with .

Bump for Windy ...:link:

[ConHog]

The accused here didn't contend it was accidental viewing...



Understood, I was just speaking from a broader sense in that a law that made having child porn on your internet cache illegal wouldn't be much fair when people aren't 100% in control of what comes across their screen when they are online.

[Wind Song]

I really can't stay on a forum that accuses me of getting off on or supporting child porn.

[ConHog]

I really can't stay on a forum that accuses me of getting off on or supporting child porn.

that is NOT what he said Dorothy.

Learn to take a joke.

[darin]

I really can't stay on a forum that accuses me of getting off on or supporting child porn.

Hey - you're being stupid. Stop being stupid. Nobody accused you of that.

[Wind Song]

Hey - you're being stupid. Stop being stupid. Nobody accused you of that.



I can't help but think, when I see your avatar, WS... "Potential victims of your point of view"


Stop neg repping me by calling me a liar.

[darin]

I can't help but think, when I see your avatar, WS... "Potential victims of your point of view"


Stop neg repping me by calling me a liar.

Stop lying.

[Wind Song]

Tell me EXACTLY what you meant about the children in my avatar being my victims. Stop calling me a liar and stop negging me. You're NOT welcoming to me as a poster AT ALL.

I'm very kind to my elementary school children and they love me dearly. None are "victims".

Take your insinuations and shove them.

[darin]

Tell me EXACTLY what you meant about the children in my avatar being my victims. Stop calling me a liar and stop negging me. You're NOT welcoming to me as a poster AT ALL.

I'm very kind to my elementary school children and they love me dearly. None are "victims".

Take your insinuations and shove them.

Don't cross threads mmkay?

Stop lying about what people write.

Stop posting rep comments.

Stop being a whiner.

Choose to overcome your perpetual victimhood.

[Wind Song]

Don't cross threads mmkay?

Stop lying about what people write.

Stop posting rep comments.

Stop being a whiner.

Choose to overcome your perpetual victimhood.


Take responsibility for your own words. Take responsibility for the behind the scenes nastiness you do that you'd rather people not know about.

Stop telling me how I can be.

Take your own fucking medicine and get off my ass.

[darin]

Take responsibility for your own words. Take responsibility for the behind the scenes nastiness you do that you'd rather people not know about.

Stop telling me how I can be.

Take your own fucking medicine and get off my ass.


Stop lying about 'nastiness behind the scenes' - I'm upfront about everything. I have distain for your lying. Everyone knows it.

Stop being a fucking victim of your own making. Nobody is against you - when people are NOT against you, you lie about shit to try to make other people believe people are against you.

Stop attention whoring :)

[jimnyc]

You just altered my post. How fucked up is that? You starting a rumor that I like child porn?

Another thread, another lie, another fuckup and another victim.

[jimnyc]

Can someone please save me the time of looking at the logs - Did WS go ahead and break the rules again by posting rep comments?

[Wind Song]

Stop lying about 'nastiness behind the scenes' - I'm upfront about everything. I have distain for your lying. Everyone knows it.

Stop being a fucking victim of your own making. Nobody is against you - when people are NOT against you, you lie about shit to try to make other people believe people are against you.

Stop attention whoring :)


Anytime I post ANYTHING on this forum somebody considers it attention seeking. You call me a liar anytime I've shared some true story about my life.

You neg rep with nasty comments and expect me to suffer that in silence.

Let's take this child porn issue, and look at your comment to me, that the children in my avie are my potential victims. Then Gator comes in repeatedly with disgusting comments including that I support Nambla, which is a lie.

That's a lie YOU tolerate. The stories I tell about my life are true.

[jimnyc]

You neg rep with nasty comments and expect me to suffer that in silence.

But did you post his comments publicly?

[Wind Song]

Can someone please save me the time of looking at the logs - Did WS go ahead and break the rules again by posting rep comments?

I certainly referred to them but did not post them. Why should dmp get away with harassing me with neg reps?

[jimnyc]

I certainly referred to them but did not post them. Why should dmp get away with harassing me with neg reps?

Pointing out that he disagrees with a post and commenting on it via the rep system is not harassment. Harassment would be "Haha, I'm negging you repeatedly solely to bring down your score" - or - "I'm going to fin where you live".

Simply negging you because you make a billion dumb posts is not harassment - and the comments themselves are private. EVEN IF, which it's not, but even if it were harassment - you send myself or Abbey a PM to look into it, and we will handle the problem for you.

[Wind Song]

Pointing out that he disagrees with a post and commenting on it via the rep system is not harassment. Harassment would be "Haha, I'm negging you repeatedly solely to bring down your score" - or - "I'm going to fin where you live".

Simply negging you because you make a billion dumb posts is not harassment - and the comments themselves are private. EVEN IF, which it's not, but even if it were harassment - you send myself or Abbey a PM to look into it, and we will handle the problem for you.

He's harassing me. I asked him to leave me alone and he won't.

[jimnyc]

He's harassing me. I asked him to leave me alone and he won't.

No matter how many times you say it - if someone doesn't like your post and neg reps you and tells you why - that is NOT harassment. I looked at all of the comments you received and not a one of them is in a harassing nature.

[Wind Song]

No matter how many times you say it - if someone doesn't like your post and neg reps you and tells you why - that is NOT harassment. I looked at all of the comments you received and not a one of them is in a harassing nature.


I feel differently.

[ConHog]

I feel differently.

Doesn't matter what you feel Dorothy. It only matters what the rule is.

Tell you what, the next time Darin "harrasses" you with neg reps I'll "harrass" you with pos reps. You don't mention either on the board. Deal?

Sheesh

What the fuck you gonna do with those rep points anyway ? Buy dinner?

Speaking of rep points, hey Jim did you ever convince LUV's cock that you weren't rigging the system for me? :laugh:

[Wind Song]

Doesn't matter what you feel Dorothy. It only matters what the rule is.

Tell you what, the next time Darin "harrasses" you with neg reps I'll "harrass" you with pos reps. You don't mention either on the board. Deal?

Sheesh

What the fuck you gonna do with those rep points anyway ? Buy dinner?

Speaking of rep points, hey Jim did you ever convince LUV's cock that you weren't rigging the system for me? :laugh:


What bugged me the most was he hit me with two neg reps AND insinuated that the children in my avie would be victims to me. It was when we were discussing this child porn topic that he came at me.


Accusing me of harming children in any way doesn't get a pass from me, nor does it get an apology when I call foul.