Teenage Date Rape

[Wind Song]

The UK Government is launching an anti sexual abuse campaign aimed at teenagers to challenge the misconceptions about 'date rape'.
http://www.key103.co.uk/news/uk-and-world/20120305-teenage-date-rape-targeted-by-govt-campaign/

This is a good idea.

[darin]

I hope they launch a campaign regarding: Just because you regret it, or some feminazi convinced you, doesn't mean it's rape.

[Wind Song]

No, means no. Period.

Are you telling me you really don't know what consensual sex is and isn't? You don't the difference between consensual sex and rape?

One third of teenage girls report date rape.

[darin]

One third of teenage girls report date rape.


And some percentage of those girls are lying or confused. That's life.

[Wind Song]

And some percentage of those girls are lying or confused. That's life.
Do you know the difference between rape and consensual sex?

[darin]

You can't stay on topic very well.

Consensual sex: What most ladies want with me.

Rape: what you'd have to do to be with me.

[Wind Song]

You can't stay on topic very well.

Consensual sex: What most ladies want with me.

Rape: what you'd have to do to be with me.

Clearly, you don't know.

[cadet]

Do you know the difference between rape and consensual sex?

In fact i think he does.

One he's talking about is "yes" at the time, but "oh crap" later.
the other is tied up or drugged.
and for the most part, most guys who are accused of rape claim she said yes (Guys at my college). Stupid hoes.

[Abbey Marie]

Free condoms for date rapists!

[Wind Song]

In fact i think he does.

One he's talking about is "yes" at the time, but "oh crap" later.
the other is tied up or drugged.
and for the most part, most guys who are accused of rape claim she said yes (Guys at my college). Stupid hoes.
What I suspect, with guys like this, is if they slip a woman a micky and she ends up fucking him while unconscious he thinks it's consensual because he didn't have to use a knife.

[darin]

Clearly, you don't know. how repulsive you are? Of course I don't know how repulsive you are, physically. Your words, though...man, based on your words you are the ugliest dude on the internet. You are so ugly you pretend you're a lady.



What I suspect, with guys like this, is if they slip a woman a micky and she ends up fucking him while unconscious he thinks it's consensual because he didn't have to use a knife.

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

[cadet]

What I suspect, with guys like this, is if they slip a woman a micky and she ends up fucking him while unconscious he thinks it's consensual because he didn't have to use a knife.

now honey, that would be known as rape.
the one we're talking about is when she says yes, but when you don't call/break up, she suddenly said no.

[Wind Song]

how repulsive you are? Of course I don't know how repulsive you are, physically. Your words, though...man, based on your words you are the ugliest dude on the internet. You are so ugly you pretend you're a lady.




Keep your fantasies to yourself.

I'm pretending to be female? News to me.

[gabosaurus]

And some percentage of those girls are lying or confused. That's life.


I hope they launch a campaign regarding: Just because you regret it, or some feminazi convinced you, doesn't mean it's rape.

If you actually believe this, then you are a clueless moron.
Only a dickhead male would think all women "want" him. If a woman says no, then it's rape. If a woman is drunk or otherwise incapacitated, it is rape. It's not a choice. And it's not about sex.
It's about fucked up boys who think they have a "right" to have sex with a woman. Often because their dad is the same fucked up idiot who raised them that way.
Rape is a crime that I believe is outside the law. When my best friend was raped by two men, we never bothered with the legal system. We enforced the law of the street. Which is how it should be.

[cadet]

You know what's wrong with this thread? if your a teen, do you have any idea how hard it is to get roofies? most these women are just horny at the time. and regret it later when daddy finds out their prego.
(And who's to blame? boyfriend, every time. not like she was a part of it or anything... yay biased courts.)

[Wind Song]

Consensual sex occurs when both parties are able to provide a sober YES to requests for sex and each person is able to participate freely.

[cadet]

If you actually believe this, then you are a clueless moron.
Only a dickhead male would think all women "want" him. If a woman says no, then it's rape. If a woman is drunk or otherwise incapacitated, it is rape. It's not a choice. And it's not about sex.
It's about fucked up boys who think they have a "right" to have sex with a woman. Often because their dad is the same fucked up idiot who raised them that way.
Rape is a crime that I believe is outside the law. When my best friend was raped by two men, we never bothered with the legal system. We enforced the law of the street. Which is how it should be.

What if the man's drunk? is that rape?
can the man be raped? has a guy every reported rape? what if she slipped a Viagra in his drink and made sure he was passed out drunk?

[Wind Song]

Sexual assault refers to sexual contact without consent which includes rape, sexual abuse, attempted rape, and unwanted sexual touching.
Sexual assault may, but need not, include sexual penetration, which includes vaginal intercourse, oral sex, or anal penetration.
Sexual assault may include conduct that involves any unwanted touching or fondling of the genitals or breasts of the victim.
Date rape and acquaintance rape are considered sexual assault.

[jimnyc]

Sexual assault refers to sexual contact without consent which includes rape, sexual abuse, attempted rape, and unwanted sexual touching.
Sexual assault may, but need not, include sexual penetration, which includes vaginal intercourse, oral sex, or anal penetration.
Sexual assault may include conduct that involves any unwanted touching or fondling of the genitals or breasts of the victim.
Date rape and acquaintance rape are considered sexual assault.

Is it assault if you finish on her face?

[Wind Song]

What if the man's drunk? is that rape?
can the man be raped? has a guy every reported rape? what if she slipped a Viagra in his drink and made sure he was passed out drunk?

You cannot have implied consent when you're completely intoxicated.


Is it assault if you finish on her face?
Can't you get some new material? You've already used this one.

[jimnyc]

Can't you get some new material? You've already used this one.

What if you're doing it doggy style, and you "slip" and hit the wrong "area", is that assault?

[Wind Song]

Keep going. You're really impressing everyone, Jimmy.

[jimnyc]

Keep going. You're really impressing everyone, Jimmy.

Shut up, stupid.

[Wind Song]

The more you post, the worse you get, Jim. Sad.

[cadet]

You cannot have implied consent when you're completely intoxicated.
ok, so your saying the girl is too intoxicated to say yes, but the man is too intoxicated to make a "sober decision."
so your holding him to a higher standard then her, you saying she's too drunk to consent yet your saying the guy is sober enough consent to sex. Who's to say if he was sober he wouldn't have wanted to have sex with her just as she doesn't want to have with him when sober.

If you cant handle your liquor than don't drink to excess and place yourself in a situation where you will regret what you did than attempt to ruin another life in the process.....

Why are you willing to give the girl a pass for being stupid or intoxicated yet you aren't willing to give the same grace to the guy??? You aren't biased are you????

[jimnyc]

Have you ever had sex with your wife when you're this angry?

No, but what I do, is I think of YOU when I get that feeling, and it goes away and I can last much, much longer.

[Wind Song]

Fascinating.

Not one man here has yet to indicate he knows the difference between rape and consensual sex.

[jimnyc]

The more you post, the worse you get, Jim. Sad.

I'm not trying to impress the boards "attention dyke".

[jimnyc]

Fascinating.

Not one man here has yet to indicate he knows the difference between rape and consensual sex.

I think rape is when you get caught, otherwise consensual. Sort of like speeding on the highway, it's not illegal if a copper doesn't catch you. :lol:

[Wind Song]

No, but what I do, is I think of YOU when I get that feeling, and it goes away and I can last much, much longer.

I never think of you when I have sex.

[cadet]

Fascinating.

Not one man here has yet to indicate he knows the difference between rape and consensual sex.
I think your just trolling, everyone here knows the difference you are just being stupid, and you have yet to answer the question why your willing to give a drunk girl a pass yet not a drunk guy

[Wind Song]

I think rape is when you get caught, otherwise consensual. Sort of like speeding on the highway, it's not illegal if a copper doesn't catch you. :lol:
I'm sure that's what you told the judge. How many years did you get?

[gabosaurus]

What if the man's drunk? is that rape?
can the man be raped? has a guy every reported rape? what if she slipped a Viagra in his drink and made sure he was passed out drunk?

Please tell me that you are not completely stupid. There are physical reasons why an unconscious man can't be raped.
Look, if you are freaking clueless and have nothing intelligent to say, go back to whacking to porn.

And Jim, you are not helping your cause by making stupid responses. Please grow up and try to be serious about a serious subject. Rape is not a joke.

[Wind Song]

Please tell me that you are not completely stupid. There are physical reasons why an unconscious man can't be raped.
Look, if you are freaking clueless and have nothing intelligent to say, go back to whacking to porn.

And Jim, you are not helping your cause by making stupid responses. Please grow up and try to be serious about a serious subject. Rape is not a joke.

Rape is a joke to these two posters, Gabby.

What I recommend is that they both see the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

[jimnyc]

I'm sure that's what you told the judge. How many years did you get?

The judge was a man, he let me off with a warning.

[cadet]

Please tell me that you are not completely stupid. There are physical reasons why an unconscious man can't be raped.
Look, if you are freaking clueless and have nothing intelligent to say, go back to whacking to porn.

And Jim, you are not helping your cause by making stupid responses. Please grow up and try to be serious about a serious subject. Rape is not a joke.
Really are you that freaking stupid about male anatomy??? If a woman can be too intoxicated to give consent than a man can be too intoxicated to be responsible for his actions as well. This is where you and other woman lose a lot of your arguing, you say "she doesn't know what she is doing" however you feel he knows everything he is doing.

By the way with the current erectile dysfunction drugs out there all it take is one of those in a drink and let the guy pass out and jump on... Also in case YOU forgot your physiology and anatomy class an erection is both voluntary and involuntary thats is why paraplegic still get erections and why there are nighttime erections but hey you live the lie you want!!!! dumb ass

[Wind Song]

The judge was a man, he let me off with a warning.
I doubt that. You probably got your payback on the inside for years.

[cadet]

Rape is a joke to these two posters, Gabby.

What I recommend is that they both see the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.
you have yet to answer the question I have posted to you repeatedly!!! Why is that???

[jimnyc]

I doubt that. You probably got your payback on the inside for years.

Yep, it's what turned me into an abnormal queer, and made me want to straddle other men in public.

[Wind Song]

Yep, it's what turned me into an abnormal queer, and made me want to straddle other men in public.
I thought I recognized you in that photo!

[jimnyc]

Rape is rape, and whether male or female, they should do some serious time. I'm not a big fan of sex crimes. I don't think anyone on this board has an issue determining what is rape as opposed to what is consensual sex.

But to Darin's point, if a woman cries rape, and it's proven to be made up, she should do MORE time than rapists, IMO.

[Wind Song]

One in four women surveyed was victim of rape or attempted rape.
An additional one in four women surveyed was touched sexually against her will or was victim of sexual coercion.
84 percent of those raped knew their attacker.
57 percent of those rapes happened while on dates.
One in twelve male students surveyed had committed acts that met the legal definitions of rape or attempted rape.
84 percent of those men who committed rape said that what they did was definitely not rape.
Sixteen percent of the male students who committed rape and ten percent of those who attempted a rape took part in episodes involving more than one attacker.


http://www.aaets.org/arts/art13.htm

[revelarts]

it's ashamed people can't even talk about this rationally.
If anyones here's daughter came in and said she was rape there'd be no jokes or insults flying.

but I wonder if a campaign is going to help. teaching kids some old fashion morals would go along way though, but modern western CULT-ure is not into that anymore. it wants to promote hot sex anywhere anytime, tease men all day long in all media, sexualize lil girls from 7 years old and up, let them "date" at 12 or so, encourage the expression of our natural urges, reject and mock abstinence, and then wonder if there's a way to discourage rape a little.

[Wind Song]

it's ashamed people can't even talk about this rationally.
If anyones here's daughter came in and said she was rape there'd be no jokes or insults flying.

but I wonder if a campaign is going to help. teaching kids some old fashion morals would go along way though, but modern western CULT-ure is not into that anymore. it wants to promote hot sex anywhere anytime, tease men all day long in all media, sexualize lil girls from 7 years old and up, let them "date" at 12 or so, encourage the expression of our natural urges, reject and mock abstinence, and then wonder if there's a way to discourage rape a little.

It's really too bad. This is a topic worthy of a serious discussion.

[cadet]

One in four women surveyed was victim of rape or attempted rape.
An additional one in four women surveyed was touched sexually against her will or was victim of sexual coercion.
84 percent of those raped knew their attacker.
57 percent of those rapes happened while on dates.
One in twelve male students surveyed had committed acts that met the legal definitions of rape or attempted rape.
84 percent of those men who committed rape said that what they did was definitely not rape.
Sixteen percent of the male students who committed rape and ten percent of those who attempted a rape took part in episodes involving more than one attacker.


http://www.aaets.org/arts/art13.htm
now give me the male statistics.

[Wind Song]

now give me the male statistics.

Lazy man. Why don't you look them up yourself? I've heard that 3% of men are raped.

I work on a Rape Crisis line and men in our county have reported being raped.

[gabosaurus]

it's ashamed people can't even talk about this rationally.
If anyones here's daughter came in and said she was rape there'd be no jokes or insults flying.

but I wonder if a campaign is going to help. teaching kids some old fashion morals would go along way though, but modern western CULT-ure is not into that anymore. it wants to promote hot sex anywhere anytime, tease men all day long in all media, sexualize lil girls from 7 years old and up, let them "date" at 12 or so, encourage the expression of our natural urges, reject and mock abstinence, and then wonder if there's a way to discourage rape a little.

Good points, revelarts. But it is the boys who need the guidance growing, not just the girls. Too many boys listen to their dads make sex jokes and talk about how awesome it is to have sex. Boys grow up almost pressured to live up to the fantasy idea of what a "man" is like. So they make crude jokes, pinch or slap girls and pretty much expect sexual favors.
I agree with my dad. His opinion always was that if one of his daughters was raped, and he knew who did it, they wouldn't be assaulting anyone for a long time. Or ever.

[ConHog]

No, means no. Period.

Are you telling me you really don't know what consensual sex is and isn't? You don't the difference between consensual sex and rape?

One third of teenage girls report date rape.

Bullshit, "no" sometimes mean " try harder you sumbitch"

:laugh2:

That's true no matter how much some of you women won't admit it.

[Wind Song]

There's also the phenomena of "corrective rape". That is men raping lesbians to put them in their place.

[ConHog]

Good points, revelarts. But it is the boys who need the guidance growing, not just the girls. Too many boys listen to their dads make sex jokes and talk about how awesome it is to have sex. Boys grow up almost pressured to live up to the fantasy idea of what a "man" is like. So they make crude jokes, pinch or slap girls and pretty much expect sexual favors.
I agree with my dad. His opinion always was that if one of his daughters was raped, and he knew who did it, they wouldn't be assaulting anyone for a long time. Or ever.


Any dad who talks about how great sex is in front of his kids needs an ass whipping. talk about inappropriate.

[Wind Song]

Bullshit, "no" sometimes mean " try harder you sumbitch"

:laugh2:

That's true no matter how much some of you women won't admit it.

I'm SO unsurprised at your attitude. What a jerk.

[jimnyc]

I'm SO unsurprised at your attitude. What a jerk.

Oh, the horror, must you involve yourself in name calling? I find it offensive. I think I'm going to file a complaint. And the "J" word no less!

[Wind Song]

Oh, the horror, must you involve yourself in name calling? I find it offensive. I think I'm going to file a complaint. And the "J" word no less!
Gee, I should just go and hide my head in shame.:slap:

[ConHog]

I'm SO unsurprised at your attitude. What a jerk.

So you're denying that some women play the little try harder game when it comes to sex?

[Wind Song]

So you're denying that some women play the little try harder game when it comes to sex?

No, means no.

What is consensual sex, Conhog?

I couldn't make up a worse name for you than the one you have.

[ConHog]

I'm SO unsurprised at your attitude. What a jerk.

Jerk is my name , how DARE you use it in public.

I DEMAND that Windy be sanctioned for this breach in forum decorum.

[gabosaurus]

Any dad who talks about how great sex is in front of his kids needs an ass whipping. talk about inappropriate.

You would be surprised. I heard of one dad who chastised his 16 year old son for not having sex yet.
There are a lot of asshats who think sex is a male domain. It's usually the same morons who believe rape is about sex and not about power.

[ConHog]

You would be surprised. I heard of one dad who chastised his 16 year old son for not having sex yet.
There are a lot of asshats who think sex is a male domain. It's usually the same morons who believe rape is about sex and not about power.

Yeah there are some idiot dads out there, NOTHING would surprise me. Idiot moms to.

[Wind Song]

Conhog is just the kind of guy that doesn't know the meaning of consensual sex.

It makes sense to me now. No, is just a red flag for you, isn't it?


Jerk is my name , how DARE you use it in public.

I DEMAND that Windy be sanctioned for this breach in forum decorum.
Whatever you say, Unknown_Soldier.

[ConHog]

Conhog is just the kind of guy that doesn't know the meaning of consensual sex.

It makes sense to me now. No, is just a red flag for you, isn't it?

On so now I'm a rapist?

Shut the fuck up bitch. I would NEVER violate a woman; but it is an absolute fact that some women say no when what they really mean is you haven't earned it yet, but try harder.................

[ConHog]

Whatever you say, Unknown_Soldier.

I know who that is only because Pixie and I talk and she gave me a link, but it's not me, I gave up that piece of shit board the day I joined here. :laugh:

[Wind Song]

On so now I'm a rapist?

Shut the fuck up bitch. I would NEVER violate a woman; but it is an absolute fact that some women say no when what they really mean is you haven't earned it yet, but try harder.................
No, means no.

Learn the difference between consensual sex, (woman says yes), and rape, (woman says no).


I know who that is only because Pixie and I talk and she gave me a link, but it's not me, I gave up that piece of shit board the day I joined here. :laugh:

It's your other persona on USMB.

[ConHog]

No, means no.

Learn the difference between consensual sex, (woman says yes), and rape, (woman says no).

You do understand that if a woman says no meaning try harder, than means try harder, not rape her. Don't you?


It's your other persona on USMB.

I don't post on USMB Windy. Not in any guise.

[Wind Song]

You do understand that if a woman says no meaning try harder, than means try harder, not rape her. Don't you?



I don't post on USMB Windy. Not in any guise.


No, means no. It doesn't mean try harder, drug her or force yourself on her.

[jimnyc]

Whatever you say, Unknown_Soldier.


I know who that is only because Pixie and I talk and she gave me a link, but it's not me, I gave up that piece of shit board the day I joined here. :laugh:


It's your other persona on USMB.

Interesting. Making such accusations without any definitive proof, and "outing" someone/something YOU think is private. Almost worse than calling someone by their first name.

[Wind Song]

Interesting. Making such accusations without any definitive proof, and "outing" someone/something YOU think is private. Almost worse than calling someone by their first name.
Since you outed my real name AND my screen name at USMB, I figured why not? When in Rome....

[ConHog]

Interesting. Making such accusations without any definitive proof, and "outing" someone/something YOU think is private. Almost worse than calling someone by their first name.

Plus, anyone who knows me and knows how I feel about the scow knows I have nothing to do with that shitty board. I didn't even want to look at it when you sent me a link to Kat calling Windy by her name Dorothy and Dorothy not objecting to it.

[Wind Song]

Plus, anyone who knows me and knows how I feel about the scow knows I have nothing to do with that shitty board. I didn't even want to look at it when you sent me a link to Kat calling Windy by her name Dorothy and Dorothy not objecting to it.

First of all, I don't know any "Kat" and NO ONE publically uses my real name. I rarely share it in PM. Obviously, Jim is untrustworthy with private information.

[ConHog]

Since you outed my real name AND my screen name at USMB, I figured why not? When in Rome....

So, Jim outs you and you respond by making things up about me?


You know what the worst part is? I freaking invited you here b/c I thought you might enjoy a board that didn't treat you the way USMB did , and no doubt still does, and you ran right over here and did everything you could to get this board to treat you the same.

Just weird. You're a freak who gets off on being treated like crap. Like a woman who ENJOYS having a man abuse her.


First of all, I don't know any "Kat" and NO ONE publically uses my real name. I rarely share it in PM. Obviously, Jim is untrustworthy with private information.

Why lie about something that can so easily be proved?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/135461-all-of-you-islamophobic-zomg-teh-sharia-law-is-coming-to-get-you-bedwetters-118.html#post2855816

There is YOU posting with Kat, who is also a member here, albeit one who rarely posts and under a different name. And she CLEARLY says you should try just being SkyDancer/Dorothy instead of being an angry lesbian.

Anyone can read the link and see that what I, and Jim earlier, say is true.

[Wind Song]

Why lie about something that can so easily be proved?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/135461-all-of-you-islamophobic-zomg-teh-sharia-law-is-coming-to-get-you-bedwetters-118.html#post2855816

There is YOU posting with Kat, who is also a member here, albeit one who rarely posts and under a different name. And she CLEARLY says you should try just being SkyDancer/Dorothy instead of being an angry lesbian.

Anyone can read the link and see that what I, and Jim earlier, say is true.

Could be the reason Kat isn't there anymore. I would have reported her using my real name. I don't remember her.

Strange how much work you went through to bring up several years old business from another forum. There was absolutely no reason for ME to have held onto that.

[jimnyc]

Why lie about something that can so easily be proved?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/135461-all-of-you-islamophobic-zomg-teh-sharia-law-is-coming-to-get-you-bedwetters-118.html#post2855816

There is YOU posting with Kat, who is also a member here, albeit one who rarely posts and under a different name. And she CLEARLY says you should try just being SkyDancer/Dorothy instead of being an angry lesbian.

Anyone can read the link and see that what I, and Jim earlier, say is true.

I was trying to avoid linking to other boards, not wanting to start any cross feuds. But Sky Dancer apparently feels different about Dorothy being used than Wing Nut does. Now I wonder how this person Kat knew? And why didn't Wing Nut complain about it over there at that time?

[jimnyc]

Could be the reason Kat isn't there anymore. I would have reported her using my real name. I don't remember her.

Strange how much work you went through to bring up several years old business from another forum.

I'm sure she just guessed what your name was. She obviously knew you, and your name, and used it publicly, and there it is without you bitching.

[ConHog]

Could be the reason Kat isn't there anymore. I would have reported her using my real name. I don't remember her.

I happen to know exactly why Kat isn't at USMB anymore, and it has nothing to do with you. Nevertheless, do you deny that when she addressed you by your name and you did not object to her?

[Wind Song]

I happen to know exactly why Kat isn't at USMB anymore, and it has nothing to do with you. Nevertheless, do you deny that when she addressed you by your name and you did not object to her?
I'd call reporting her post objecting to it.


I'm sure she just guessed what your name was. She obviously knew you, and your name, and used it publicly, and there it is without you bitching.
No, she wasn't a poster that was there for very long. Barely a blip on my radar. I reported that post.

I just checked the members list and Kat is not even listed. There is a KAT42 with no posts.

[ConHog]

I was trying to avoid linking to other boards, not wanting to start any cross feuds. But Sky Dancer apparently feels different about Dorothy being used than Wing Nut does. Now I wonder how this person Kat knew? And why didn't Wing Nut complain about it over there at that time?

Because Wing Nut is a wing nut.

[Wind Song]

Check the USMB member list. No "Kat" listed. There is a Kat42 with no posts.


Because Wing Nut is a wing nut.

.

[ConHog]

.

You're a dumb bitch

[jimnyc]

Check the USMB member list. No "Kat" listed. There is a Kat42 with no posts.

I don't care what the member list shows, the actual post from this "Kat" is there for all to see. It's not made up and there was no public complaint from you at all, even thought you quoted her words.

[ConHog]

I don't care what the member list shows, the actual post from this "Kat" is there for all to see. It's not made up and there was no public complaint from you at all, even thought you quoted her words.

she was purged, not just banned LOL. but this LONG after the conversation Dorothy had with Kat which we've all seen did happen.

[Wind Song]

I don't care what the member list shows, the actual post from this "Kat" is there for all to see. It's not made up and there was no public complaint from you at all, even thought you quoted her words.

I reported it. No one gets to use my real name on open forum without protest from me.

[Wind Song]

You're a dumb bitch


And you have zero imagination.

[ConHog]

I reported it. No one gets to use my real name on open forum without protest from me.

Okay Dorothy.

[Wind Song]

Okay Dorothy.


Considering that it was a MOD who outed my real name, there is no point in protesting any further U_K. Kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?

Poor Connie.

[jimnyc]

Considering that it was a MOD who outed my real name, there is no point in protesting any further U_K. Kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?

Poor Connie.

Kind of hard to out something that was out there already, Wing Nut.

"Oh no, some horrible MEN on the internet know my first name, icky"