Rush Limbaugh apologises for 'Slut" slur towards Miss Fluke

[Noir]

...oh no, wait, he didn't, he actually said this

"So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here's the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch."

Well there's an upstanding gentleman if ever there were.

[Gunny]

...oh no, wait, he didn't, he actually said this

"So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here's the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch."

Well there's an upstanding gentleman if ever their were.

Why should he apologize?

[Noir]

Why should he apologize?

Because if you disagree with someone, you shouldn't use offensive slurs, you should engage them to the best of your intelligence, without resorting to personal attacks.

Anyone who does use such slurs would hopefully be gentlemanly enough to apologise. Just, ya know, common sense and respect.

[Gunny]

Because if you disagree with someone, you shouldn't use offensive slurs, you should engage them to the best of your intelligence, without resorting to personal attacks.

Anyone who does use such slurs would hopefully be gentlemanly enough to apologise. Just, ya know, common sense and respect.

Really? I refuse. Next ....

[Noir]

Really? I refuse. Next ....

Much the pity.

[fj1200]

She's a whore for the big government left then?


Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/meet-sandra-fluke-the-woman-you-didnt-hear-at-congress-contraceptives-hearing/2012/02/16/gIQAJh57HR_blog.html

That probably doesn't fit either. I'm open to any definition that fits her mission to force institutions, especially Catholic ones it would seem, to bend their policies to match her worldview.

[Gunny]

Much the pity.

Really? I ain't apologizing for shit to suit your pollitically correct agenda. Pity yourself. At least I have a set of stones.

[Wind Song]

Rush is a low life. Who cares if he apologizes?:lol:

[Shadow]

Rush is a low life. Who cares if he apologizes?:lol:

Right...totally unlike those offensive lefty talking heads in the media. I will wait for Noir to point those out next while also demanding an apology.
:thumb:

[Wind Song]

I have no intention of apologizing for thinking Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. I have as much right to my opinion as you have to yours. I don't like Coulter either. She's worse.

Do I like Rachel Maddow? Yep, love her.

[logroller]

She's a whore for the big government left then?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/meet-sandra-fluke-the-woman-you-didnt-hear-at-congress-contraceptives-hearing/2012/02/16/gIQAJh57HR_blog.html

That probably doesn't fit either. I'm open to any definition that fits her mission to force institutions, especially Catholic ones it would seem, to bend their policies to match her worldview.

Well, if by worldview you mean leaving medical decisions to the patient and their doctor, then sure.

[Shadow]

I have no intention of apologizing for thinking Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. I have as much right to my opinion as you have to yours. I don't like Coulter either. She's worse.

Do I like Rachel Maddow? Yep, love her.

Exactly. You libs only pretend to care about being "offended" because you disagee with their politics...otherwise you ignore it.

[Gunny]

Rush is a low life. Who cares if he apologizes?:lol:

Rush is a media personality who makes a WHOLE lot of sense. Unlike the hatred spewing pundits from the left who don't even have a clue why they hate what they do. They just go programmed to repeat the vitriol like parrots.

[Gunny]

Right...totally unlike those offensive lefty talking heads in the media. I will wait for Noir to point those out next while also demanding an apology.
:thumb:

I demand an apology. :)

[Gunny]

Exactly. You libs only pretend to care about being "offended" because you disagee with their politics...otherwise you ignore it.

They ignore it ESPECIALLY if they have to justify some bullshit.

[Noir]

Really? I ain't apologizing for shit to suit your pollitically correct agenda. Pity yourself. At least I have a set of stones.

Lol, mkay, if a woman disagrees with me on a political issue I don't go out of my way to call her names and such. What you call 'being PC' I call being polite. But then who needs majors nowadays.

[fj1200]

Well, if by worldview you mean leaving medical decisions to the patient and their doctor, then sure.

No, one where government mandates that private companies act in a way that advance her particular cause.

[Wind Song]

Rush is a media personality who makes a WHOLE lot of sense. Unlike the hatred spewing pundits from the left who don't even have a clue why they hate what they do. They just go programmed to repeat the vitriol like parrots.

Rush invented the term "dittohead" for chumps like you who repeat his hate filled vitriol. The reason you like him is because you hate liberals.

Maddow is much smarter and easier on the eyes than chubbo Rush. She makes much more sense than he does.

[Wind Song]

Exactly. You libs only pretend to care about being "offended" because you disagee with their politics...otherwise you ignore it.

First of all, I live in a rural area and I don't watch either of them on TV. I watch Maddow when I travel. You bet I agree with her politics.

[Wind Song]

I demand an apology. :)

When hell freezes over.

[fj1200]

Rush invented the term "dittohead" for chumps like you who repeat his hate filled vitriol. The reason you like him is because you hate liberals.

No he didn't.


Maddow is much smarter and easier on the eyes than chubbo Rush. She makes much more sense than he does.

You're silly.

[Gunny]

When hell freezes over.

Way to take some humor directed at another member and try to turn it into something else. FTR, you don't have to apologize. You are who and what you are.

[jimnyc]

I have no intention of apologizing for thinking Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. I have as much right to my opinion as you have to yours. I don't like Coulter either. She's worse.

Do I like Rachel Maddow? Yep, love her.

Maddow is a skanky dyke looking bitch! :lol:

[Gunny]

Maddow is a skanky dyke looking bitch! :lol:

Ummm .... that would be Wind Song's style, dude.

[Wind Song]

Ummm .... that would be Wind Song's style, dude.

She's cute and smart!

[Wind Song]

Way to take some humor directed at another member and try to turn it into something else. FTR, you don't have to apologize. You are who and what you are.

That's right.

[jimnyc]

She's cute and smart!

And looks like a skanky dyke, and likes to do the name calling at republicans - you know, the name calling you don't like. But I guess it's ok since she's a skanky dyke beotch.

[Gunny]

She's cute and smart!

She's about as smart as a hitch post. And obviously, your idea of "cute" and mine are a LOT different.

[Wind Song]

She's about as smart as a hitch post. And obviously, your idea of "cute" and mine are a LOT different.

Your idea of cute is a doughnut. Woman as hole.

[Wind Song]

And looks like a skany dyke, and likes to do the name calling at republicans - you know, the name calling you don't like. But I guess it's ok since she's a skanky dyke beotch.

That's right. I don't mind when she's pulling the rug out from some GOP bozo.

[jimnyc]

That's right. I don't mind when she's pulling the rug out from some GOP bozo.

So you're a hypocritical dyke, who supports dykes who do name calling, which you have recently espoused that you abhor.

[Gunny]

That's right. I don't mind when she's pulling the rug out from some GOP bozo.

Too bad she is incapable, huh?

[Wind Song]

So you're a hypocritical dyke, who supports dykes who do name calling, which you have recently espoused that you abhor.


I'm a liberal lesbian woman that enjoy's Maddow's humor. You are a bigot.

[Gunny]

I'm a liberal lesbian woman that enjoy's Maddow's humor. You are a bigot.

Oh NO! Not the "b" word from the aberrant minority that wants the rest of the world to quit being normal and cow-tow to their sexual behavior! Say it isn't so!

YOU are one of the worst bigots I've ever encountered.

[jimnyc]

I'm a liberal lesbian woman that enjoy's Maddow's humor. You are a bigot.

And you're also a liar. Just yesterday in the thread about muhammed, you went on record saying that you didn't like name calling by anyone. Now you say it's ok when by a dyke and directed at the GOP. You're a hypocritical liar. But if you're cool with that...

[Wind Song]

And you're also a liar. Just yesterday in the thread about muhammed, you went on record saying that you didn't like name calling by anyone. Now you say it's ok when by a dyke and directed at the GOP. You're a hypocritical liar. But if you're cool with that...

You're reading more into my posts than I'm saying. I like Maddow's politics and humor. I don't like name calling by anyone, but since I'm here, I sure am not going to just sit by and take YOUR name calling without responding.

[Wind Song]

Oh NO! Not the "b" word from the aberrant minority that wants the rest of the world to quit being normal and cow-tow to their sexual behavior! Say it isn't so!

YOU are one of the worst bigots I've ever encountered.

Absolutely. I'm a bigot for equal rights and I don't have patience with the likes of people like you who can't stay married and don't want me to have the right when I have been with my for 27 years.

I pity your ex-wife.

[jimnyc]

You're reading more into my posts than I'm saying. I like Maddow's politics and humor. I don't like name calling by anyone, but since I'm here, I sure am not going to just sit by and take YOUR name calling without responding.

Sure, backtrack when your lying and hypocritical stances are exposed. I don't care if you like those terms or not, they're proven fact on this board now. I can't help it if you did in fact make a statement yesterday and admit it was a lie today, becoming a liar and a hypocrite in the process. You're just mad because I called your dreamy woman a no good skanky dyke who does the very thing you claim to dislike.

[jimnyc]

Absolutely. I'm a bigot for equal rights and I don't have patience with the likes of people like you who can't stay married and don't want me to have the right when I have been with my for 27 years.

I pity your ex-wife.

27 years of abnormality. I'm very sorry that you've had this ailment for so long.

[Wind Song]

Sure, backtrack when your lying and hypocritical stances are exposed. I don't care if you like those terms or not, they're proven fact on this board now. I can't help it if you did in fact make a statement yesterday and admit it was a lie today, becoming a liar and a hypocrite in the process. You're just mad because I called your dreamy woman a no good skanky dyke who does the very thing you claim to dislike.

I'm not mad. Nice try.


RACHEL MADDOW, The Rachel Maddow Show, Jul. 12, 2011

Not all Freudian slips are created equal.

[Wind Song]

27 years of abnormality. I'm very sorry that you've had this ailment for so long.

My marriage is the envy of most of my straight friends. I could care less what YOU think of me.

[jimnyc]

My marriage is the envy of most of my straight friends. I could care less what YOU think of me.

I don't know your friends. But I sincerely offer my sympathies for having to deal with this ailment for so many years. Being abnormal must be tough. I'm glad you eased your pain, and urges, by pairing with someone of the same ailment.

[Gunny]

Lol, mkay, if a woman disagrees with me on a political issue I don't go out of my way to call her names and such. What you call 'being PC' I call being polite. But then who needs majors nowadays.

You have a point here? I am equal opportunity when it comes to calling people who and what they are. Trying to make it a gender issue is just the usual BS from the left. I don't give a damn if you're a one-eyed, one-hornde, flying purple people eater. If you are socialist, you're a loser.

[Gunny]

Your idea of cute is a doughnut. Woman as hole.

Nah, my woman is hot, in more ways than one. I'd suggest you might hedge your ignorance with the fact that she posts on this board.

[Wind Song]

Nah, my woman is hot, in more ways than one. I'd suggest you might hedge your ignorance with the fact that she posts on this board.


You treat like a hole. Even your description of her is related to her body.

[Gunny]

Absolutely. I'm a bigot for equal rights and I don't have patience with the likes of people like you who can't stay married and don't want me to have the right when I have been with my for 27 years.

I pity your ex-wife.

You're a bigot for UNequal rights. The majority should succumb to the tyranny of the minority. Call it what it is.

[Wind Song]

You're a bigot for UNequal rights. The majority should succumb to the tyranny of the minority. Call it what it is.

Call it a republic. That's what it is. We espouse equal rights and we protect those rights against the tyranny of the majority.

This thread is NOT about marriage equality. Get back on topic, boy.

[Gunny]

Call it a republic. That's what it is. We espouse equal rights and we protect those rights against the tyranny of the majority.

This thread is NOT about marriage equality. Get back on topic, boy.

You espouse unequal rights that cater to the behavior of an aberrant minority.

I didn't say a thing about marriage. Want to try again with your red herrings? At least try to pick on something I actually said.

[Wind Song]

You espouse unequal rights that cater to the behavior of an aberrant minority.


You don't know the meaning of marriage. You think EVERYTHING is about sex. The aberance is your own hatred of and unwillingness to offer other citizens the same rights as you.

And again. Marriage equality isn't the topic.

[jimnyc]

You don't know the meaning of marriage. You think EVERYTHING is about sex. The aberance is your own hatred of and unwillingness to offer other citizens the same rights as you.

And again. Marriage equality isn't the topic.

Abberant behavior, deviant behavior & being abnormal, DO NOT mean those of us who point it out are "haters". These are FACTS.

[Gunny]

You don't know the meaning of marriage. You think EVERYTHING is about sex. The aberance is your own hatred of and unwillingness to offer other citizens the same rights as you.

And again. Marriage equality isn't the topic.

Correct me if I'm wrong ... didn't you just tell me the topic wasn't about marriage and attempt to insult me for you throwing it out as a red herring I allegedly addressed? The only one dragging "marriage" into the fray is YOU.

Your entire post is stupid, and assumes what you think you know. I have no problem with people having the same rights as I. I have a problem with giving an aberrant minority MORE rights than the average citzen has.

[Wind Song]

Abberant behavior, deviant behavior & being abnormal, DO NOT mean those of us who point it out are "haters". These are FACTS.


The thread topic has nothing to do with homosexuality. I could care less about what passes for "normal" behavior from you.
You state your opinion as if it were a fact.

Fact: Homosexuality is no longer listed as a mental health disorder. It is no longer considered "abberant" behavior.

Fact: Increasing numbers of countries and states are approving marriage equality and recognizing how little sexual behavior has to do with citizens rights.

Fact: Homosexuality occurs in nature.

I would ask you, how many gay or lesbian people do you actually know well?

[jimnyc]

The thread topic has nothing to do with homosexuality. I could care less about what passes for "normal" behavior from you.
You state your opinion as if it were a fact.

Fact: Homosexuality is no longer listed as a mental health disorder. It is no longer considered "abberant" behavior.

Fact: Increasing numbers of countries and states are approving marriage equality.

Fact: Homosexuality occurs in nature.

Don't care what you THINK, look up the actual definitions, and you'll find they fit to a T. I'm sorry you don't like being labeled factually, but it is what it is. BTW - dogs eat their own shit in neature too. I hope you don't entertain that notion as well.

But anyway, disagree with me and debate the issue - post the definitions here after you looke them up: Abhorrent, Deviant, Abnormal <---- embrace yourself!!

[Wind Song]

Don't care what you THINK, look up the actual definitions, and you'll find they fit to a T. I'm sorry you don't like being labeled factually, but it is what it is. BTW - dogs eat their own shit in neature too. I hope you don't entertain that notion as well.

But anyway, disagree with me and debate the issue - post the definitions here after you looke them up: Abhorrent, Deviant, Abnormal <---- embrace yourself!!


If you want to run this topic into the ground, start another thread.

I repeat. I don't care WHAT you label as, your opinion is NOT a fact. You are ignorant of the facts about homosexuality and it's naturalness.

What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms is none of your business, bigot.

[Gunny]

Don't care what you THINK, look up the actual definitions, and you'll find they fit to a T. I'm sorry you don't like being labeled factually, but it is what it is. BTW - dogs eat their own shit in neature too. I hope you don't entertain that notion as well.

But anyway, disagree with me and debate the issue - post the definitions here after you looke them up: Abhorrent, Deviant, Abnormal <---- embrace yourself!!

:laugh:

True. So true.:laugh:

[jimnyc]

If you want to run this topic into the ground, start another thread.

I repeat. I don't care WHAT you label as, your opinion is NOT a fact. You are ignorant of the facts about homosexuality and it's naturalness.

Nah, I think I'll post right here, but thanks for the idea anyway.

These terms are defined. Why won't you look them up and post them? Are you afraid of a definition of a word?

[Wind Song]

Nah, I think I'll post right here, but thanks for the idea anyway.

These terms are defined. Why won't you look them up and post them? Are you afraid of a definition of a word?


Show me the definition of homosexuality and you will see it doesn't include abberance in nature. The definition is neutral, it doesn't include your bigotry.

[Gunny]

Show me the definition of homosexuality and you will see it doesn't include abberance in nature.

Incorrect. Homosexuality among Man is aberrant. Period.

The difference being that even animals who behave in what you define as homosexual nature, have no means to reason. They just do what feels good. There is nothing homosexual about it. They can't think. True homosexual animals just die. They cannot procreate and are therefore pointless to the species.

Man, on the other had, has the ability to reason. So it doesn't just mindlessly "feel good". It's a conscious act to behave in a manner aberrant to biological nature.

Thanks for your pointlessnes. Please try again.

[jimnyc]

Show me the definition of homosexuality and you will see it doesn't include abberance in nature.

That makes NO sense whatsoever. But here, I'll gladly help you!!

Abhorrent


causing repugnance; detestable; loathsome: an abhorrent deed.

2. utterly opposed, or contrary, or in conflict (usually followed by to ): abhorrent to reason (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reason).
shocking, abominable.

MANY find queers to be repugnant and detestable. It's opposed by the majority. Non stop conflict, and contrary to the norm.



Deviant


deviating (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deviate) or departing from the norm; characterized by deviation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deviation): deviant social behavior.
a person or thing that deviates (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deviate) or departs markedly from the accepted norm.



FAR from the norm. I would say it's MORE than markedly from the accepted norm.

Abnormal


not normal, average, typical, or usual; deviating from a standard: abnormal powers of concentration; an abnormal amount of snow; abnormal behavior.

2. extremely or excessively large: abnormal profit.




It's not normal, nor typical, or usual. WAY apart from standard.

Whether you like it or not, being a queer fits into every one of these definitions. Sure, normal people can fit into these definitions at times too, if they choose to engage in such behavior. But queers, they live the life of these definitions. Deny it all you like. It's pretty dumb to run from who you are. Embrace your inner self and embrace your difference from the normal!

[Thunderknuckles]

Because if you disagree with someone, you shouldn't use offensive slurs, you should engage them to the best of your intelligence, without resorting to personal attacks.

Anyone who does use such slurs would hopefully be gentlemanly enough to apologise. Just, ya know, common sense and respect.
Best thing anyone has said in the entire thread.

[Wind Song]

Incorrect. Homosexuality among Man is aberrant. Period.

The difference being that even animals who behave in what you define as homosexual nature, have no means to reason. They just do what feels good. There is nothing homosexual about it. They can't think. True homosexual animals just die. They cannot procreate and are therefore pointless to the species.

Man, on the other had, has the ability to reason. So it doesn't just mindlessly "feel good". It's a conscious act to behave in a manner aberrant to biological nature.

Thanks for your pointlessnes. Please try again.

Keep your closed mind and heart.

[Wind Song]

That makes NO sense whatsoever. But here, I'll gladly help you!!

Abhorrent



MANY find queers to be repugnant and detestable. It's opposed by the majority. Non stop conflict, and contrary to the norm.



Deviant



FAR from the norm. I would say it's MORE than markedly from the accepted norm.

Abnormal



It's not normal, nor typical, or usual. WAY apart from standard.

Whether you like it or not, being a queer fits into every one of these definitions. Sure, normal people can fit into these definitions at times too, if they choose to engage in such behavior. But queers, they live the life of these definitions. Deny it all you like. It's pretty dumb to run from who you are. Embrace your inner self and embrace your difference from the normal!

Like it or not, norms change. Homosexuality was once considered deviant, abnormal, even a mental illness, but no longer.

I have completely embraced my inner self and I love who I am regardless of what you think.

Like it or not, we live in a republic, and one that embraces diversity.

[fj1200]

WS, do you agree with Sandra Fluke's positions?

[Wind Song]

WS, do you agree with Sandra Fluke's positions?


Should birth control be covered by insurance? Yes.

Limbaugh is WAY out of line. But what is else is new? He's always acted like an oaf. The worse he acts, the more the dittoheads like it. The guy has made a career out of acting like a jerk.

[fj1200]

Should birth control be covered by insurance? Yes.

Limbaugh is WAY out of line. But what is else is new? He's always acted like an oaf. The worse he acts, the more the dittoheads like it. The guy has made a career out of acting like a jerk.

I didn't say anything about Limbaugh, so thanks for throwing that in there.

Why should the government mandate that BC be covered? Why should everyone have their premiums raised so that few can benefit?

[gabosaurus]

I don't understand why Limbaugh (or any media personality) feels a need to apologize for any statement they make. Obviously, it is done to retain sponsors and appease the thought police.
At the same time, it is protected free speech. Rush wasn't threatening anyone. He was merely being an asshole, which he is quite often. But what he said was tame compared to pretty much any of the multitude of "shock jocks" trying to be Howard Stern.
Limbaugh (and many others) troll us each day, looking to make news. Because any publicity is good publicity.

[fj1200]

Limbaugh (and many others) troll us each day, looking to make news. Because any publicity is good publicity.

Or he exposes how ridiculous this whole argument is. That we need a government legislator/regulator to create rules on how two private parties, freely engaging in commerce, are required to act or what one side is required to provide.

[Wind Song]

I don't understand why Limbaugh (or any media personality) feels a need to apologize for any statement they make. Obviously, it is done to retain sponsors and appease the thought police.
At the same time, it is protected free speech. Rush wasn't threatening anyone. He was merely being an asshole, which he is quite often. But what he said was tame compared to pretty much any of the multitude of "shock jocks" trying to be Howard Stern.
Limbaugh (and many others) troll us each day, looking to make news. Because any publicity is good publicity.


Rush is an asshole. You said it. He's also stupid. He fails to connect the dots. Advocating for insurance to pay for birth control=slut?

[gabosaurus]

Rush is an asshole. You said it.

Rush makes millions of dollars a year being as ass. It's his business. And business is good.

[tailfins]

I don't understand why Limbaugh (or any media personality) feels a need to apologize for any statement they make. Obviously, it is done to retain sponsors and appease the thought police.
At the same time, it is protected free speech. Rush wasn't threatening anyone. He was merely being an a**hole, which he is quite often. But what he said was tame compared to pretty much any of the multitude of "shock jocks" trying to be Howard Stern.
Limbaugh (and many others) troll us each day, looking to make news. Because any publicity is good publicity.

You do understand this cuts across ideology, right? Hard core righty venues help sell stuff to righies and hard core lefty venues help sell stuff to lefties. Lefty venues are needed: Bail bondsmen, liquor stores, head shops, Miss Cleo, check cashing stores, etc. need a place to sell their wares.

[jimnyc]

Like it or not, norms change. Homosexuality was once considered deviant, abnormal, even a mental illness, but no longer.

I have completely embraced my inner self and I love who I am regardless of what you think.

Like it or not, we live in a republic, and one that embraces diversity.

I have no problem with you embracing yourself, but those definitions fit whether you like it or not. Yes, norms change, but queers aren't even remotely close to being the norm. Not even close.

[jimnyc]

Rush is an asshole. You said it. He's also stupid. He fails to connect the dots. Advocating for insurance to pay for birth control=slut?

Wind Song = Lesbian = Abhorrent = Deviant = Abnormal

At least those connections are FACTS.

[Wind Song]

Wind Song = Lesbian = Abhorrent = Deviant = Abnormal

At least those connections are FACTS.

I'm a lesbian. So what? Get over it.

[MtnBiker]

Who is this dude??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5C2mV48meU

[fj1200]

Rush is an asshole. You said it. He's also stupid. He fails to connect the dots. Advocating for insurance to pay for birth control=slut?

Hardly. Are you going to answer my question?

[Wind Song]

Hardly. Are you going to answer my question?


I answered it.

[fj1200]

I answered it.

There was a follow up.

[Abbey Marie]

Rush invented the term "dittohead" for chumps like you who repeat his hate filled vitriol. The reason you like him is because you hate liberals.

Maddow is much smarter and easier on the eyes than chubbo Rush. She makes much more sense than he does.

Yes, a very important trait in a radio personality. :rolleyes:

[Wind Song]

There was a follow up.

Look toots, I don't need insurance to cover birth control, but some people do. Consider what birth control often is, medication. Why shouldn't it be covered? Ask what is needed to get birth control? Examinations. Why shouldn't examinations for birth control be covered?

This is my opinion. I know you don't like it, but too bad. I'm entitled to it.

The question on the thread is whether Limbaugh should have called that woman advocate a slut or not. She isn't a slut. He was out of line, and his apology was needed.

[Abbey Marie]

Look toots, I don't need insurance to cover birth control, but some people do. Consider what birth control often is, medication. Why shouldn't it be covered? Ask what is needed to get birth control? Examinations. Why shouldn't examinations for birth control be covered?

This is my opinion. I know you don't like it, but too bad. I'm entitled to it.

How is birth control a medication? Aside from the secondary usage for some women with particular gynecological issues, what ailment does it treat?

[Wind Song]

Yes, a very important trait in a radio personality. :rolleyes:


OK, he even sounds fat and ugly.

[MtnBiker]

How much sex does a person have to have to be cost prohibitive?

[Trigg]

Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.


Love that line there, "compromise my health care". Since when it a colleges job to police your morality and sexual promiscuity?

Birth controll pills are given out for free at Planned Parenthood, as are condoms. Maybe she needs to take some responsiblity and buy her own rubbers or $40 a month for the pill.

I actually applaud them NOT changing their policy.

Now I don't think Limbaugh should have called her a slut, that was out of line. But, neither do I think it's the colleges responsiblity to offer birth control if it goes against their theology.

[Wind Song]

How much sex does a person have to have to be cost prohibitive?

Ask Rush. I'm sure he doesn't get much.

[Trigg]

I'm a lesbian. So what? Get over it.

I was wondering why you thought Maddow was easy on the eyes.

As a woman I can appreciate good looking women, but she looks like a prepubescent boy, and not an attractive one at that.

[fj1200]

Look toots, I don't need insurance to cover birth control, but some people do. Consider what birth control often is, medication. Why shouldn't it be covered? Ask what is needed to get birth control? Examinations. Why shouldn't examinations for birth control be covered?

This is my opinion. I know you don't like it, but too bad. I'm entitled to it.

Toots? That's a new one. You ask completely the wrong question; why should government be mandating what should be covered? Are you concerned about the high cost of health care?


The question on the thread is whether Limbaugh should have called that woman advocate a slut or not. She isn't a slut. He was out of line, and his apology was needed.

Do you know that she is not a slut? Besides, I believe he said she is "like" a slut in that she asks others to cover the costs of her avoiding the consequences of her relations. Limbaugh likes to point out absurdity, which the idea that the government should be mandating things is, by being absurd.

[MtnBiker]

Ask Rush. I'm sure he doesn't get much.


Fluke was the person attempting to go before congress making a claim about birth control costs.


So, how much sex does a person have to have to be cost prohibitive?

[Wind Song]

[QUOTE=Wind Song;530089]Look toots, I don't need insurance to cover birth control, but some people do. Consider what birth control often is, medication. Why shouldn't it be covered? Ask what is needed to get birth control? Examinations. Why shouldn't examinations for birth control be covered?

This is my opinion. I know you don't like it, but too bad. I'm entitled to it.[QUOTE=Wind Song;530089]

Toots? That's a new one. You ask completely the wrong question; why should government be mandating what should be covered? Are you concerned about the high cost of health care?



Do you know that she is not a slut? Besides, I believe he said she is "like" a slut in that she asks others to cover the costs of her avoiding the consequences of her relations. Limbaugh likes to point out absurdity, which the idea that the government should be mandating things is, by being absurd.

Limbaugh is an ass. He had no business calling her a slut.

[jimnyc]

I'm a lesbian. So what? Get over it.

Apparently you are the one that needs to get over it, understand WHO you are & where you fit into society. I'm not the one in denial here.

[jimnyc]

[QUOTE=fj1200;530101][QUOTE=Wind Song;530089]Look toots, I don't need insurance to cover birth control, but some people do. Consider what birth control often is, medication. Why shouldn't it be covered? Ask what is needed to get birth control? Examinations. Why shouldn't examinations for birth control be covered?

This is my opinion. I know you don't like it, but too bad. I'm entitled to it.

Limbaugh is an ass. He had no business calling her a slut.

Yeah, and you're a hypocritical, lying dyke. And that's not flaming, that's just thepure facts based on your own words.

[fj1200]

Limbaugh is an ass. He had no business calling her a slut.

And she has business asking others to cover her behaviors? Never mind, you'll, avoid the conversation. :tipshat:

[Wind Song]

[QUOTE=Wind Song;530104][QUOTE=fj1200;530101]

Yeah, and you're a hypocritical, lying dyke. And that's not flaming, that's just thepure facts based on your own words.


Go back to the playground where you belong. Make a mudpie and eat it.

[Wind Song]

And she has business asking others to cover her behaviors? Never mind, you'll, avoid the conversation. :tipshat:


Birth control is a medical prescription. It should be covered by insurance.

[fj1200]

Doesn't anyone know how to fix a quote around here?

and yes I know I caused it in the first place... but I fixed it honest. :embarrassed:

[fj1200]

Birth control is a medical prescription. It should be covered by insurance.

That doesn't answer the question. Should women pay a higher rate than men to cover the cost? Should younger women pay a higher rate than post-menopausal women because they don't need it?

[Wind Song]

That doesn't answer the question. Should women pay a higher rate than men to cover the cost? Should younger women pay a higher rate than post-menopausal women because they don't need it?


No.

[tailfins]

Rush invented the term "dittohead" for chumps like you who repeat his hate filled vitriol. The reason you like him is because you hate liberals.

Maddow is much smarter and easier on the eyes than chubbo Rush. She makes much more sense than he does.

Get your fact straight. Ditto was started because caller after caller said "I like the show" and was designed to save airtime. Hate is a two way street. While I agree that it's not very classy to show a "gross-out" factor to homosexuality, there's prominent anti-Christian bigotry in the gay community. I compare homosexuality to alcohol. Both are a sin. Don't flaunt your orientation nor approach me with a bottle of whiskey and we'll get along just fine.

[Abbey Marie]

Love that line there, "compromise my health care". Since when it a colleges job to police your morality and sexual promiscuity?

Birth controll pills are given out for free at Planned Parenthood, as are condoms. Maybe she needs to take some responsiblity and buy her own rubbers or $40 a month for the pill.

I actually applaud them NOT changing their policy.

Now I don't think Limbaugh should have called her a slut, that was out of line. But, neither do I think it's the colleges responsiblity to offer birth control if it goes against their theology.

I agree with everything you say, except Rush didn't actually calk her a slut. He likened people who want payment for sex to sluts/prostitutes.

[jimnyc]

Birth control is a medical prescription. It should be covered by insurance.

WHY does EVERYTHING have to be covered by insurance? Is that the ONLY way to get things in life, if they're free?

There are people who DIE because insurance doesn't cover certain procedures. If anything, government should look into those things, life saving procedures, instead of paying for people to have sex and/or teaking care of their responsibilities for them.

[fj1200]

No.

Then why should EVERYONE have to pay for coverage that only a few benefit from?

[Wind Song]

WHY does EVERYTHING have to be covered by insurance? Is that the ONLY way to get things in life, if they're free?

There are people who DIE because insurance doesn't cover certain procedures. If anything, government should look into those things, life saving procedures, instead of paying for people to have sex and/or teaking care of their responsibilities for them.

Now you're having a temper tantrum. Did I say EVERYTHING should be covered by insurance? EVERYTHING should be free?

You're not interested in talking to me, you are talking FOR me. Go ahead and make up my parts then.

[OCA]

Why should he apologize?

Maybe for being a classless fuck?

[Trigg]

Birth control is a medical prescription. It should be covered by insurance.

She can CHOOSE to attend a different college. She is CHOOSING to make a stink over nothing, in order to get her name in the paper.

There is no reason she has to accept the college insurance either, she can take out private insurance. What exactly is stopping her from doing that?

There is no reason for birth control to be covered by insurance at a christian college. She could obtain FREE condoms or the pill from planned parenthood. She is choosing to have sex during college while not married.

[Wind Song]

Then why should EVERYONE have to pay for coverage that only a few benefit from?


You could ask that about every item on a health plan. I'm female. Why should I have to pay for testicular cancer screening?

[OCA]

At least I have a set of stones.

I guess ripping on chicks like Gabs makes you think you have a set of stones............you don't.

[Wind Song]

She can CHOOSE to attend a different college. She is CHOOSING to make a stink over nothing, in order to get her name in the paper.

There is no reason she has to accept the college insurance either, she can take out private insurance. What exactly is stopping her from doing that?

There is no reason for birth control to be covered by insurance at a christian college. She could obtain FREE condoms or the pill from planned parenthood. She is choosing to have sex during college while not married.


She can choose to advocate for what she wants. Too bad for you.

[Trigg]

I agree with everything you say, except Rush didn't actually calk her a slut. He likened people who want payment for sex to sluts/prostitutes.


I pulled up the video and watched it after I posted that, I agree he didn't actually call her a slut.

[OCA]

Right...totally unlike those offensive lefty talking heads in the media. I will wait for Noir to point those out next while also demanding an apology.
:thumb:

Care to share a link to those?

[OCA]

Exactly. You libs only pretend to care about being "offended" because you disagee with their politics...otherwise you ignore it.

Cons do the same exact thing.

[OCA]

Rush is a media personality who makes a WHOLE lot of sense. Unlike the hatred spewing pundits from the left who don't even have a clue why they hate what they do. They just go programmed to repeat the vitriol like parrots.

Did he make sense when he was shooting up oxycontin?

[tailfins]

You could ask that about every item on a health plan. I'm female. Why should I have to pay for testicular cancer screening?

While you make an interesting point, the REAL issue is about trampling on people's religious beliefs. The original issue is a religious exemption regarding direct or indirect payment for contraception.

[fj1200]

You could ask that about every item on a health plan. I'm female. Why should I have to pay for testicular cancer screening?

No, there are riders for additional coverages if desired. You shouldn't have to, insurance rates should be dependent on your likelihood of contracting the ailment and requiring treatment. Men's and women's life insurance rates are different because they have different mortality rates and life expectancies.

All of that sidesteps that health insurance in this country no longer resembles anything like insurance; it's a health care payment plan.

[Trigg]

She can choose to advocate for what she wants. Too bad for you.

she can choose to be an attention whore, doesn't make her right.

[Abbey Marie]

Left wing offensiveness at work:

I saw today that a Rolling Stone article described yesterday's passing of Andrew Breitbart as the "Death of a Douche" .

Doesn't get much worse than that.

[OCA]

Rush invented the term "dittohead" for chumps like you who repeat his hate filled vitriol. The reason you like him is because you hate liberals.

Maddow is much smarter and easier on the eyes than chubbo Rush. She makes much more sense than he does.

People like Rush because they don't have to think for theirselves, he tells them what to think. Rush listeners are sheep.

[OCA]

No he didn't.





Yes he did.

[OCA]

Maddow is a skanky dyke looking bitch! :lol:

So you'd rather blow Rush? Is that what you are alluding to?

[Wind Song]

Left wing offensiveness at work:

I saw today that a Rolling Stone article described yesterday's passing of Andrew Breitbart as the "Death of a Douche" .

Doesn't get much worse than that.

Oh really? Listen to Ann Coulter.

[OCA]

She's about as smart as a hitch post. And obviously, your idea of "cute" and mine are a LOT different.

Gunny I guarantee you she could outdebate after two fifth of Kentucky windage and you just drinking ice water...........yes, you are that dumb.

[fj1200]

Yes he did.

No. I think it was LA who pointed out the correct origin.

[Wind Song]

she can choose to be an attention whore, doesn't make her right.


Attention whore--is that the new term for "advocate" of any kind?

Was MLK an "attention whore"? What about Gandhi?

I'm not saying this gal is MLK or Gandhi but she is advocating for a cause that means something to her. How very American.

[OCA]

So you're a hypocritical dyke, who supports dykes who do name calling, which you have recently espoused that you abhor.

Are you willing to call Rush out and other conservatives for the same?

[OCA]

Too bad she is incapable, huh?

Gunsel doesn't even know who she is.

[OCA]

Absolutely. I'm a bigot for equal rights and I don't have patience with the likes of people like you who can't stay married and don't want me to have the right when I have been with my for 27 years.

I pity your ex-wife.

Easy wind, i'm with ya on neocons but slow down on the crazy queer choice talk. That myth doesn't fly.

[jimnyc]

Now you're having a temper tantrum. Did I say EVERYTHING should be covered by insurance? EVERYTHING should be free?

You're not interested in talking to me, you are talking FOR me. Go ahead and make up my parts then.

You said the pill was a medical prescription, so therefore should be covered by insurance.

Imagine a patient going to a doctor and finds out his heart is failing. The ONLY way to live beyone about a year is with a heart transplant. THAT's the doctors "prescription". Only thing is, insurance doesn't cover such procedures. What should this patient do?

[Abbey Marie]

Oh really? Listen to Ann Coulter.

So you think Rolling Stone's comment isn't that bad? Wow.
Anything you say about Rush's slut comment (which he didn't even call her, btw), is now completely without credibility.

[OCA]

My marriage is the envy of most of my straight friends. I could care less what YOU think of me.

Wind, its really not.

I can help you.

[OCA]

You have a point here? I am equal opportunity when it comes to calling people who and what they are. Trying to make it a gender issue is just the usual BS from the left. I don't give a damn if you're a one-eyed, one-hornde, flying purple people eater. If you are socialist, you're a loser.

And you are a neocon and a retard, the new Actsnoblemartin.

[jimnyc]

And you are a neocon and a retard, the new Actsnoblemartin.

If you're going to troll, at least learn how to multi-quote and save space. And don't wait on any answers directed at me, I'm not playing your games. And I suggest stopping the attack of staff members in an unprovoked manner.

/no discussion /no debate /just move forward

[Wind Song]

Wind, its really not.

I can help you.


Hahaha.

My marriage is the envy of many of my straight friends.

[Trigg]

Attention whore--is that the new term for "advocate" of any kind?

Was MLK an "attention whore"? What about Gandhi?

I'm not saying this gal is MLK or Gandhi but she is advocating for a cause that means something to her. How very American.

she wants someone to pay for her contraceptives when she can go to planned parenthood and get them for free. She wants a christian college to change their theology to suit her loose morals. Who exactly is she an advocate for? People who want to sleep around, but not take responsiblity for said actions? Good thing she's trying to become a lawyer. Maybe afte she graduates she can run for congress.

MLK wanted to bring attention to racist practices, not the best comparison, next time try to do better. :laugh:

[OCA]

The thread topic has nothing to do with homosexuality. I could care less about what passes for "normal" behavior from you.
You state your opinion as if it were a fact.

Fact: Homosexuality is no longer listed as a mental health disorder. It is no longer considered "abberant" behavior.

Fact: Increasing numbers of countries and states are approving marriage equality and recognizing how little sexual behavior has to do with citizens rights.

Fact: Homosexuality occurs in nature.

I would ask you, how many gay or lesbian people do you actually know well?

Fact........the APA took it off the list in the early 70's not because they thought that it wasn't a disorder they took it off becaise of big financial and political pressure.

Fact..............if the people are allowed to vote on the issue you are 0-29, nobody is for queer marriage minus a few lib judges.

Fact........homosexuality in nature occurs solely as a power move amongst apes and gorillas, want to equate yourself with that group?

You were born like everyone else, with a natural attraction to the opposite sex and somewhere along the line decided to make the disastrous queer lifestyle choice.

There is help available if you seek it.

[OCA]

If you're going to troll, at least learn how to multi-quote and save space. And don't wait on any answers directed at me, I'm not playing your games. And I suggest stopping the attack of staff members in an unprovoked manner.

/no discussion /no debate /just move forward

Gunny is trolling, just so you know.

[fj1200]

Attention whore--is that the new term for "advocate" of any kind?

Was MLK an "attention whore"? What about Gandhi?

I'm not saying this gal is MLK or Gandhi but she is advocating for a cause that means something to her. How very American.

It's American now to look for handouts?

Anyway, I read that Fluke was a "Reproductive Rights Activist"; What reproductive rights is she being denied?

[OCA]

Hahaha.

My marriage is the envy of many of my straight friends.

No, its not.

Your lifestyle is not the envy of anyone, its what you tell yourself in order to sleep at night.

[Wind Song]

she wants someone to pay for her contraceptives when she can go to planned parenthood and get them for free. She wants a christian college to change their theology to suit her loose morals. Who exactly is she an advocate for? People who want to sleep around, but not take responsiblity for said actions? Good thing she's trying to become a lawyer. Maybe afte she graduates she can run for congress.

MLK wanted to bring attention to racist practices, not the best comparison, next time try to do better. :laugh:


Christian colleges who accept non-christian students and federal dollars have to be non-discriminatory. This young woman is doing students at her college a great service. I hope she has a successful career as an attorney and runs for office if she so chooses to.

[Wind Song]

No, its not.

Your lifestyle is not the envy of anyone, its what you tell yourself in order to sleep at night.

My friends have told me they envy me my relationship to my wife. They tell me that. I don't have to tell myself anything in order to get to sleep. I just snuggle up with my honey and a smile on my face.

[Trigg]

Christian colleges who accept non-christian students and federal dollars have to be non-discriminatory. This young woman is doing students at her college a great service. I hope she has a successful career as an attorney and runs for office if she so chooses to.

How is not offering birth controll as part of their health coverage discriminatory?

She is doing herself a great service, no one else, and if you believe otherwise you are delusional.

[jimnyc]

My friends have told me they envy me my relationship to my wife. They tell me that. I don't have to tell myself anything in order to get to sleep. I just snuggle up with my honey and a smile on my face.

It's called a "white lie". Your friends just don't want to insult you. I suppose I can admire them for that. And I'm glad you smile with your "honey", I knew you could embrace being abnormal! You go girl!

[Wind Song]

It's called a "white lie". Your friends just don't want to insult you. I suppose I can admire them for that. And I'm glad you smile with your "honey", I knew you could embrace being abnormal! You go girl!


You don't know my friends. I was married in a Buddhist Gonpa by my Lama. My entire community of friends and family were present. My friends love me and my wife the way we are.

Sour grapes for you. Sorry.

Telling ME that MY friends were just being phoney IS a lie. A lie told by you, in order to justify your own hatred and bias.

[Wind Song]

Whiptail lizards, (Cnemidophorus neomexicanus) found in the American southwest, are all females. They reproduce by parthenogenesis. Unfertilized eggs develop, producing an exact clone of its mother. Even though no males exist, the females still exhibit sexual mating behavior. Those that attract a lesbian partner have been found to produce more and healthier eggs.

You can just consider me a "whiptail lizard" that beat the pants off you in this debate.

Homosexuality is not abberant behaviour, by mere fact it is practised. Saying it is abberant doesn't prove anything. Nature by definition can never make a mistake. Something that is can not at the same time not be.

[jimnyc]

You don't know my friends. I was married in a Buddhist Gonpa by my Lama. My entire community of friends and family were present. My friends love me and my wife the way we are.

Sour grapes for you. Sorry.

Telling ME that MY friends were just being phoney IS a lie. A lie told by you, in order to justify your own hatred and bias.

I speak facts.


Whiptail lizards, (Cnemidophorus neomexicanus) found in the American southwest, are all females. They reproduce by parthenogenesis. Unfertilized eggs develop, producing an exact clone of its mother. Even though no males exist, the females still exhibit sexual mating behavior. Those that attract a lesbian partner have been found to produce more and healthier eggs.

You can just consider me a "whiptail lizard" that beat the pants off you in this debate.

Homosexuality is not abberant behaviour, by mere fact it is practised. Saying it is abberant doesn't prove anything. Nature by definition can never make a mistake. Something that is can not at the same time not be.

The term is "abhorrent", and ALL queers fit in there based on their behavior. Same as abnormal and deviant. You know what? Hetero's who have anal sex are involved in abnormal, deviant behavior too! They just don't base their entire life on the deviancy.

So let me help you - it's "abhorrent". It's "behavior". It's "practiced".

When you learn how to spell, then you can begin to even think of being in the same league as me. I'd challenge you to a one on one debate that we offer here, but we know you libtards like to talk the talk and then disappear when time to back it up. Hell, I'll even debate you now how YOUR lifestyles fits into the 3 definitions of abhorrent, deviant & abnormal. I'll beat you at your own lifestyle. LOL

[Abbey Marie]

Can someone tell me why a school is even in the business of offering students health insurance?

[Wind Song]

Can someone tell me why a school is even in the business of offering students health insurance?

Oh for pete sakes. Wake up.

[jimnyc]

Can someone tell me why a school is even in the business of offering students health insurance?

Because people can't pay for damn school and their healthcare themselves! How dare you think someone should pay for their own college tuition and/or their responsibilities while being sexual active. That's GOT to be someone else's responsibility, they're too busy learning to pay for things.

[Wind Song]

I speak facts.



The term is "abhorrent", and ALL queers fit in there based on their behavior. Same as abnormal and deviant. You know what? Hetero's who have anal sex are involved in abnormal, deviant behavior too! They just don't base their entire life on the deviancy.

So let me help you - it's "abhorrent". It's "behavior". It's "practiced".

When you learn how to spell, then you can begin to even think of being in the same league as me. I'd challenge you to a one on one debate that we offer here, but we know you libtards like to talk the talk and then disappear when time to back it up. Hell, I'll even debate you now how YOUR lifestyles fits into the 3 definitions of abhorrent, deviant & abnormal. I'll beat you at your own lifestyle. LOL
Drop dead.

[jimnyc]

Drop dead.

So you claim to be able to beat me in a debate, but when push comes to shove you bail. Figures. Emotionally unavailable and abnormal. Tsk Tsk.

[Wind Song]

So you claim to be able to beat me in a debate, but when push comes to shove you bail. Figures. Emotionally unavailable and abnormal. Tsk Tsk.

That's right. I've been talking to you all afternoon and you are as thick as a brick.

[ConHog]

Absolutely. I'm a bigot for equal rights and I don't have patience with the likes of people like you who can't stay married and don't want me to have the right when I have been with my for 27 years.

I pity your ex-wife.


What a lame insult. Why do you pity his ex wife? I'm happy for her, she got away. :laugh:

PS Mad Cow is a nasty bitch.

[jimnyc]

That's right. I've been talking to you all afternoon and you are as thick as a brick.

And yet you're still scared to debate me one on one. That's because you're emotionally unavailable, a wreck, thin skinned. You KNOW that others will see what I'm saying is factual, and without posting they will be giggling at your idiocy.

[Wind Song]

And yet you're still scared to debate me one on one. That's because you're emotionally unavailable, a wreck, thin skinned. You KNOW that others will see what I'm saying is factual, and without posting they will be giggling at your idiocy.

Debate you one on one? Did you challenge me to do so? I didn't see that.

I'm not here to take care of your emotional needs. I'm giggling that you think I should. That is the all time funniest thing anyone from a forum has ever asked of me.

[jimnyc]

Debate you one on one? Did you challenge me to do so? I didn't see that.

I'm not here to take care of your emotional needs. I'm giggling that you think I should.

You quoted my post with the challenge and even replied to said post, you fucking retard. And my emotional needs? Who said ANYTHING at ALL about MY emotional needs? This is what happens when I post with people like you that can't comprehend what they read. Like I could give a flying fuck about your emotions towards me. Me pointing out that you're an emotional retard doesn't mean "I" want or need jack shit from you.

[Wind Song]

You quoted my post with the challenge and even replied to said post, you fucking retard. And my emotional needs? Who said ANYTHING at ALL about MY emotional needs? This is what happens when I post with people like you that can't comprehend what they read. Like I could give a flying fuck about your emotions towards me. Me pointing out that you're an emotional retard doesn't mean "I" want or need jack shit from you.

Good. Because I owe you nothing. You're the one who said I am "emotionally unavailable" which has nothing to do with debate.

You're a block head. We've been discussing homosexuality all afternoon. I don't normally discuss lesbianism or homosexuality. I just live my life.

[ConHog]

Good. Because I owe you nothing. You're the one who said I am "emotionally unavailable" which has nothing to do with debate.

You're a block head. We've been discussing homosexuality all afternoon. I don't normally discuss lesbianism or homosexuality. I just live my life.

Don't be a crack pot coward, and run from another poster's challenge of a one on one debate. Only a gutless worm does that. :salute:

[jimnyc]

Good. Because I owe you nothing. You're the one who said I am "emotionally unavailable" which has nothing to do with debate.

You're a block head. We've been discussing homosexuality all afternoon. I don't normally discuss lesbianism or homosexuality. I just live my life.

I'm a blockhead. LOL Sure, I don't respond to something, and then within mere minutes forget that I just replied to it. That shows the adrenaline of emotion running through your little bitty cranium, then the abnormalcy kicks in and I guess you just start forgetting shit.

[Wind Song]

Don't be a crack pot coward, and run from another poster's challenge of a one on one debate. Only a gutless worm does that. :salute:

Get lost. I've been here all afternoon going round and round with this guy. What's the point? His mind is a steel trap.

[Abbey Marie]

Oh for pete sakes. Wake up.

I'm fully awake. Now, do you have any reply?

[ConHog]

Get lost. I've been here all afternoon going round and round with this guy. What's the point? His mind is a steel trap.


THat's actually a compliment.

Doesn't change the fact that only a total pussy refuses to debate one on one with a person who challenges them. Excuses are only used to cover up the cowardly behavior of the person who won't accept the challenge.

[jimnyc]

Don't be a crack pot coward, and run from another poster's challenge of a one on one debate. Only a gutless worm does that. :salute:


I'm fully awake. Now, do you have any reply?

Engage the "woman" at your own peril! :coffee:

[logroller]

You said the pill was a medical prescription, so therefore should be covered by insurance.

Imagine a patient going to a doctor and finds out his heart is failing. The ONLY way to live beyone about a year is with a heart transplant. THAT's the doctors "prescription". Only thing is, insurance doesn't cover such procedures. What should this patient do?
Well, most insurance has some sort of procedure for challenging a denied claim. They don't just say-- no-- and that's the end of it. I'm guessing the reason a heart transplant is denied is because the price of such a procedure. Perhaps there is additional consideration, such as overall health, quality of life, chances of survival, age and other perhaps other persons in greater need. I've yet to hear BC being denied insurance coverage based on the price involved, or any other objective reasoning-- probably because the opposite is true-- its just a means of subjecting others to your own sense of morality-- and that by consenting, i give up my right to object. And quite frankly jim, youre right, its a contract. But our society has a contract too; and th employer is bound to that. Yet here they are objecting--

[Wind Song]

I'm fully awake. Now, do you have any reply?


Maybe you never you went to college. For the last forty or more years, colleges have been offering health insurance to students.

[Wind Song]

Engage the "woman" at your own peril! :coffee:


I'm so happy you feel that way about me. Yes, lesbians are women. We are women who love women. That means we also love ourselves.

I am a woman. Engage me at your peril.:dance:

[jimnyc]

Well, most insurance has some sort of procedure for challenging a denied claim. They don't just say-- no-- and that's the end of it. I'm guessing the reason a heart transplant is denied is because the price of such a procedure. Perhaps there is additional consideration, such as overall health, quality of life, chances of survival, age and other perhaps other persons in greater need. I've yet to hear BC being denied insurance coverage based on the price involved, or any other objective reasoning-- probably because the opposite is true-- its just a means of subjecting others to your own sense of morality-- and that by consenting, i give up my right to object. And quite frankly jim, youre right, its a contract. But our society has a contract too; and th employer is bound to that. Yet here they are objecting--

And as individuals, I think we also have a contract with society, and to ourselves, to adopt personal responsibility and mitigate the circumstances. There are different companies, different employers, different costs, different medicines - and yet the demand is that ALL companies do it, ALL insurance carry it, ALL employees offer it. Why can't the individual decide what's best for them and figure out how to attain it, or go without it, instead of sticking out their hands and not only demanding who gives it to them, but that they do so for free?

[Nukeman]

Maybe you never you went to college. For the last forty or more years, colleges have been offering health insurance to students.
Thats right and its ... work with me here...... BASIC COVERAGE. Mostly for catastrophic events not every day run of the mill stuff. MOST colleges have onsite physicians, PA's or NP's to handle the routine stuff.

Why don't YOU get with the program and realize that the pill has for many years NOT been covered by insurance, since if you really dont want to get pregnant abstain from having sex or use one of the other number of birth control methods out there. Is this chick really having so much sex that she goes through a pack of condoms a night, I mean come on!!

This whole thing is nothing more than HER trying to get attention.. You are just being stupid to think otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Abbey Marie]

Maybe you never you went to college. For the last forty or more years, colleges have been offering health insurance to students.

College, then law school, toots. (Love that word, btw)

My bad, I never expected my school to give me insurance. They aren't my employer or my parents.

[Wind Song]

Thats right and its ... work with me here...... BASIC COVERAGE. Mostly for catastrophic events not every day run of the mill stuff. MOST colleges have onsite physicians, PA's or NP's to handle the routine stuff.

Why don't YOU get with the program and realize that the pill has for many years NOT been covered by insurance, since if you really dont want to get pregnant abstain from having sex or use one of the other number of birth control methods out there. Is this chick really having so much sex that she goes through a pack of condoms a night, I mean come on!!

This whole thing is nothing more than HER trying to get attention.. You are just being stupid to think otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut up. This is a free nation and this woman has the right to free speech. She can advocate for whatever she chooses.

What bugs you the most? She's having more sex than you are?

[Wind Song]

College, then law school, toots. (Love that word, btw)

My bad, I never expected my school to give me insurance. They aren't my employer or my parents.

It's quite common.

[jimnyc]

Shut up. This is a free nation and this woman has the right to free speech. She can advocate for whatever she chooses.

What bugs you the most? She's having more sex than you are?

Probably that she wants others to pay for her sexual escapades and hold her hand through the responsibility phase of her life.

[Wind Song]

Probably that she wants others to pay for her sexual escapades and hold her hand through the responsibility phase of her life.


You wish.

[Nukeman]

Shut up. This is a free nation and this woman has the right to free speech. She can advocate for whatever she chooses.

What bugs you the most? She's having more sex than you are?Really.. the best you can refute with is "shut up".. Its funny you asked Abby if she has gone to college, have you??? When was the last time YOU dealt with a college on any issue??

I have NEVER stated she doesnt have the right to "say what she wants to say" but she doesnt have the right to "demand" someone else change their moral and religious beliefs just so she can get her freak on.. Now does she.....???


She can "advocate" for whatever she wants doesnt mean it's right, or are you telling me that every person out there who stands for something is right?? Is that really what you are attempting to say???

I doubt she is having more sex than me unless she really is a prostitute or whore!!!!!

[jimnyc]

You wish.


So she doesn't want the contraceptives for free, in order for herself to have protected sex?

[ConHog]

Shut up. This is a free nation and this woman has the right to free speech. She can advocate for whatever she chooses.

What bugs you the most? She's having more sex than you are?

LOL Did you just honestly tell another person to shut up then pontificate about free speech? LOL

[Wind Song]

So she doesn't want the contraceptives for free, in order for herself to have protected sex?


Women pay 65% more for contraception than men do. Why shouldn't insurance cover it? It covers YOU getting your balls checked for VD.

[Nukeman]

It's quite common.That coverage isn't free dipshit!!! The students/parents have to pay for it... If the ollege chooses to offer a more comprehensive policy than it will COST MORE... Most colleges try to accomoate as many as possible not just the few!! do you understand that??

[Nukeman]

LOL Did you just honestly tell another person to shut up then pontificate about free speech? LOL
Yup she sure did!!!

[ConHog]

Women pay 65% more for contraception than men do. Why shouldn't insurance cover it? It covers YOU getting your balls checked for VD.

Stores charge women more for condoms then they do men? That's discrimination.

[ConHog]

Yup she sure did!!!

World's full of hypocrites.

[Nukeman]

You do realize this is a 30 year old woman not a 18 -22 year old young girl dont you. What the hell is she a professional student?? I mean come on she is 30 years old and still begging for free stuff, when does the WOMAN take responsibility for herself?????????????

[jimnyc]

Women pay 65% more for contraception than men do. Why shouldn't insurance cover it? It covers YOU getting your balls checked for VD.

Can't answer a direct question? The answer would be yes, then, she does want others to pay so she can have protected sex. I wonder how our country possibly survived for so long when this issue is pretty new, as insurance never covered before. I wonder - just what did the men and women do all these many years? Maybe they're all dead and buried somewhere!

Or maybe they took personal responsibility, abstained, used condoms that THEY bought. But if it's such a must, and HAS to be covered and free, I'm really unsure how we did without for so long?

[Nukeman]

Women pay 65% more for contraception than men do. Why shouldn't insurance cover it? It covers YOU getting your balls checked for VD.How do you figure that!!!?????

[Wind Song]

Stores charge women more for condoms then they do men? That's discrimination.
How many of you selfish pigs even wear a rubber, let alone buy them?

You want your women to use other contraception and that's expensive.

[jimnyc]

How many of you selfish pigs even wear a rubber, let alone buy them?

You want your women to use other contraception and that's expensive.

Not me, just finish on her face!! :lol:

[jimnyc]

I'm immediately apologizing to all the women 'cept for Wing Ding. I know that comment was SO out of line, but I couldn't help myself! :coffee:

[Nukeman]

Really?? You have proof of that??????????? The average BC pills cost 15-30 dollars a month, for a 30 pack of rubbers its about 15 dollars, gee lets see if she held herself to only every other day she could get by for 7 dollars a month now if she wanted to get it on once a day she could break even on rubbers or the pill, now if she is the "slut" that no one seems to think she is and has to have it twice a day every day than she would be better off buying birth control pills, of course this is just quessing on my part as to how much she is really having.

[Wind Song]

Not me, just finish on her face!! :lol:


Yeah, that sounds just charming.

[ConHog]

How many of you selfish pigs even wear a rubber, let alone buy them?

You want your women to use other contraception and that's expensive.


Look loony lez. Not all men are selfish pigs. Back when I was single , damn right I wore a condom, bitches be crazy and I wasn't going to take any woman's word that she was on birth control. Gotta protect myself first. I don't think I'm unusual in that regard.

Now I do concede that Jim probably didn't bother having condoms available to him because well you don't prepare for a flood when you live in a desert, but the rest of us..................


:laugh:

[Shadow]

Care to share a link to those?

MSNBC Host Calls Laura Ingraham ‘Slut’


http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/25/unhinged-msnbcs-ed-schultz-calls-laura-ingraham-a-right-wing-slut/

[Wind Song]

Really?? You have proof of that??????????? The average BC pills cost 15-30 dollars a month, for a 30 pack of rubbers its about 15 dollars, gee lets see if she held herself to only every other day she could get by for 7 dollars a month now if she wanted to get it on once a day she could break even on rubbers or the pill, now if she is the "slut" that no one seems to think she is and has to have it twice a day every day than she would be better off buying birth control pills, of course this is just quessing on my part as to how much she is really having.


Men are selfish. They take very little responsibility for contraception. IMO, they should equally pay for contraception. It's appropriate for insurance to cover this.

[Shadow]

People like Rush because they don't have to think for theirselves, he tells them what to think. Rush listeners are sheep.

As opposed to those who let the talking heads on MSNBC think for them.:rolleyes:

[Nukeman]

MSNBC Host Calls Laura Ingraham ‘Slut’




http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/25/unhinged-msnbcs-ed-schultz-calls-laura-ingraham-a-right-wing-slut/Its OK hes liberal leaning... Don't you know that by now, only conservative are heald to a higher standard!!!

[Nukeman]

Men are selfish. They take very little responsibility for contraception. IMO, they should equally pay for contraception. It's appropriate for insurance to cover this.
And as a self proclaimed lesbian when was the last time YOU were with a man?? You make huge broad statements with no real life experience to back it up.. Back it up or shut the f**k up!?!?!?

[Wind Song]

As opposed to those who let the talking heads on MSNBC think for them.:rolleyes:

You want to act like "dittoheads" don't let Rush think for them? Rush has contempt for his own listeners. He is the one who calls them "dittoheads".

Is that you? You follow Rush?

[Nukeman]

Men are selfish. They take very little responsibility for contraception. IMO, they should equally pay for contraception. It's appropriate for insurance to cover this.
Should insurance pay for condoms???

[Shadow]

While you make an interesting point, the REAL issue is about trampling on people's religious beliefs. The original issue is a religious exemption regarding direct or indirect payment for contraception.


No no...the gay community has no problem trampling on other people's "beliefs" (be they political or religious etc)...they just don't want you to do it to them...cuz that's "offensive".

[Shadow]

Oh really? Listen to Ann Coulter.

And you can listen to Randi Rhodes...

[Wind Song]

No no...the gay community has no problem trampling on other people's "beliefs" (be they political or religious etc)...they just don't want you to do it to them...cuz that's "offensive".


Talk to me. I'm a member of that community. I don't care if you think homosexuality cause penises to fall off. Just don't think you should have more rights as a citizen than I do.

Take your hate of the gay community and shove it up your ass.

Marriage equality is a civil rights issue.

[Wind Song]

And you can listen to Randi Rhodes...

never heard of him

stereotype fail

[ConHog]

Talk to me. I'm a member of that community. I don't care if you think homosexuality cause penises to fall off. Just don't think you should have more rights as a citizen than I do.

Take your hate of the gay community and shove it up your ass.

Marriage equality is a civil rights issue.

no it isn't . See you're not even fighting the right fight. Marriage is NONE of the government's business. It's not a civil right's issue, it's a religious issue. If you'd fight THAT fight , not only would you win, even the most conservative person would have to concede.

[Wind Song]

no it isn't . See you're not even fighting the right fight. Marriage is NONE of the government's business. It's not a civil right's issue, it's a religious issue. If you'd fight THAT fight , not only would you win, even the most conservative person would have to concede.

No, it is NOT a religious issue. Churches have every right to marry who they choose. I'm talking getting a license. You don't get them from your church.

Marriage law is a civil concern. It is a civil rights issue. There are 1,049 federal rights, protections and benefits provided with legal marriage.

Oops that figure was incorrect. According to the General Accounting Office report, 89 new provisions have been added since 1996, making it 1,138 not 1,049 rights.

[Nukeman]

No, it is NOT a religious issue. Churches have every right to marry who they choose. I'm talking getting a license. You don't get them from your church.

Marriage law is a civil concern. It is a civil rights issue.Your forgetting that straight men/women can't marry someone of the same sex just like homosexuals can't, where is the double standard??? The law is equal to all...... But this is WAY off topic. Quit hijaking a thread for your own beliefs!!!

[Wind Song]

but your forgetting that straight men/women cant marry someone of the same sex jsut like homosexuals cant, where is the double standard??? The law is equal to all...... But this is WAY off topic. Quit hijaking a thread for your own beliefs!!!

Read the thread, asshole. You'll see that OTHER PEOPLE have brought up homosexuality. I did not.

[ConHog]

No, it is NOT a religious issue. Churches have every right to marry who they choose. I'm talking getting a license. You don't get them from your church.

Marriage law is a civil concern. It is a civil rights issue. There are 1,049 federal rights provided with marriage.

damn you're stupid.

Simple solution, get rid of the state license. Guess what, you nor anyone else has a right to one.

Then the state is FORCED to accept all religious marriages as being equal and you have a legitimate gripe if they claim yours isn't as valid. But as long as you let the STATE control something, then they get to define it.

Go ahead and ask Jim if he would object to YOUR church marrying gays as long as his church wasn't forced to. I'll call him a hypocrite right to his face if he says yes.

[Shadow]

Talk to me. I'm a member of that community. I don't care if you think homosexuality cause penises to fall off. Just don't think you should have more rights as a citizen than I do.

Take your hate of the gay community and shove it up your ass.

Marriage equality is a civil rights issue.

Right after you take your christian and conservative "hate" and shove it up yours.
:laugh:

:laugh:

[Nukeman]

Read the thread, asshole. You'll see that OTHER PEOPLE have brought up homosexuality. I did not.Ahh first you tell me to shut up now I'm an asshole. YOU really are a wound tight bitch aren't you??? Ohh by the way you have ignored most of my questions to you, either answer them or get the fuck out of the thread you pretentious bitch!!!!!!!!!!

[Wind Song]

Right after you take your christian and conservative "hate" and shove it up yours.
:laugh:

:laugh:

Show me a post I've written that is hateful toward Christians and conservatives, please. Address an actual post, please.

Thanks for admitting you hate gays.

[Gunny]

Maybe you never you went to college. For the last forty or more years, colleges have been offering health insurance to students.


I'm so happy you feel that way about me. Yes, lesbians are women. We are women who love women. That means we also love ourselves.

I am a woman. Engage me at your peril.:dance:

You mean you went to college and STILL don't understand biological function as taught in the 8th grade?

Wonderful.

Y'all aren't women. Your gender is female. There's a difference.

[ConHog]

Ahh first you tell me to shut up now I'm an asshole. YOU really are a wound tight bitch aren't you??? Ohh by the way you have ignored most of my questions to you, either answer them or get the fuck out of the thread you pretentious bitch!!!!!!!!!!

She needs some dick , and Jim has been mentioning not getting any at home, maybe the two of them could help each other out. Well as long as she wouldn't object to him finishing on her face. :laugh2:

[Wind Song]

Ahh first you tell me to shut up now I'm an asshole. YOU really are a wound tight bitch aren't you??? Ohh by the way you have ignored most of my questions to you, either answer them or get the fuck out of the thread you pretentious bitch!!!!!!!!!!

You think I am going to OBEY you? Think again.

[ConHog]

So, we're all agreed that only a cowardly pussy makes up an excuse not to accept a challenge of a one on one debate, yes?

[Nukeman]

She needs some dick , and Jim has been mentioning not getting any at home, maybe the two of them could help each other out. Well as long as she wouldn't object to him finishing on her face. :laugh2:I think its been so long for Jim he might just blow her head off with that!!! :laugh2:

[Wind Song]

I haven't walked away from a challenge.

[Abbey Marie]

no it isn't . See you're not even fighting the right fight. Marriage is NONE of the government's business. It's not a civil right's issue, it's a religious issue. If you'd fight THAT fight , not only would you win, even the most conservative person would have to concede.

Really?



Romans 1:24-27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A26-27&version=ESV) ESV
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.


For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.






1 Corinthians 6:9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A9&version=ESV) ESV / 7 helpful votes Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

[Nukeman]

You think I am going to OBEY you? Think again.just like the Jesuits aren't going to "OBEY" some slutty woman that wants something for free!!! do you get that????

[Shadow]

Men are selfish. They take very little responsibility for contraception. IMO, they should equally pay for contraception. It's appropriate for insurance to cover this.

Sounds like a comment a woman who hates men would make. I have never met a man that was not willing to take responsibility for contraception when the subject comes up. Talk about a huge leap on your part.:rolleyes:


Did you know that the health offices in college give out free condoms? When I was in college they even had the fun fashion colors. :laugh:

[ConHog]

I think its been so long for Jim he might just blow her head off with that!!! :laugh2:

well, she might like that to. :laugh2:

[Wind Song]

Abbey--

Marriage equality is a CIVIL law issue. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin and you would rub elbows in church with one of us.

This is about 1,138 federal rights that come with marriage.

[ConHog]

Really?

That's what I'm saying Abbey. You have the absolute religeous right to not accept gay marriage as being equal. Your church should NEVER be forced to perform them.

By the same token, well some gay church ought be able to if they wish.

I couldn't care less what any church but my own says about marriage. I really couldn't.

[Nukeman]

well, she might like that to. :laugh2:Of course with how long its been for Jim, he woudl probably be pretty quick on the trigger... LOL




Sorry Jim!!!:beer:

[Wind Song]

Sounds like a comment a woman who hates men would make. I have never met a man that was not willing to take responsibility for contraception when the subject comes up. Talk about a huge leap on your part.:rolleyes:


Did you know that the health offices in college give out free condoms? When I was in college they even had the fun fashion colors. :laugh:

Silly.

Het women hate men. I don't.

[Gunny]

She needs some dick , and Jim has been mentioning not getting any at home, maybe the two of them could help each other out. Well as long as she wouldn't object to him finishing on her face. :laugh2:

Really. Think maybe you've gone a bit too far?

[ConHog]

Abbey--

Marriage equality is a CIVIL law issue. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin and you would rub elbows in church with one of us.

This is about 1,138 federal rights that come with marriage.

There are no rights that come with marriage, Privileges aren't rights.

[Abbey Marie]

Abbey--

Marriage equality is a CIVIL law issue. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin and you would rub elbows in church with one of us.

This is about 1,138 federal rights that come with marriage.

I was specifically responding to Con's point that you would win a fight on religious grounds.

On a re-read, I don't think he meant you would win with Christians anyway. He meant with the courts, most likely. Mea culpa.

[Abbey Marie]

Really. Think maybe you've gone a bit too far?

I would say so...

[Shadow]

Show me a post I've written that is hateful toward Christians and conservatives, please. Address an actual post, please.

Thanks for admitting you hate gays.

That's what this is all about... huh...so, that you can feign being a "victim". While you are at it you can take you man "hate" and shove that too. Right after you point out the post where I "claimed" to hate gays. :laugh:

[ConHog]

Really. Think maybe you've gone a bit too far?

shut the fuck up. I'm not bothering you, you don't bother me.

[jimnyc]

So, we're all agreed that only a cowardly pussy makes up an excuse not to accept a challenge of a one on one debate, yes?

I hope you're not trying to do more than meets the eye with the repeated request of this question. If I'm off base, I apologize in advance.

[Wind Song]

That's what this is all about... huh...so, that you can feign being a "victim". While you are at it you can take you man "hate" and shove that too. Right after you point out the post where I "claimed" to hate gays. :laugh:

Let's be honest. We don't like each other. You don't need to make up a story about me hating men any more than I have to make up you lousy attitude toward gays.

We are enemies. Clear?

[ConHog]

I was specifically responding to Con's point that you would win a fight on religious grounds.

On a re-read, I don't think he meant you would win with Christians anyway. He meant with the courts, most likely. Mea culpa.

Exactly right Abbey. I don't expect she would EVER convince Christians that her marriage is equal to ours. If that is her goal, well it's a stupid goal. She could however convince you that her religion has as much right to define marriage as they see fit just as yours does. No?

[Gunny]

Abbey--

Marriage equality is a CIVIL law issue. I don't care if you think homosexuality is a sin and you would rub elbows in church with one of us.

This is about 1,138 federal rights that come with marriage.

Wrong. Civil union is a civil issue. Usurping the term "marriage", KNOWING what it means, is a religious issue. THAT is the whole point. Shoving your crap down everyone else's throats. Marriage is a contract between a man and woman in the eyes of God, and ain't NOTHING going to make that right for YOU.

Get your civil union from Caesar. Who cares?

[ConHog]

I hope you're not trying to do more than meets the eye with the repeated request of this question. If I'm off base, I apologize in advance.


I'm just trying to goad her into "debating" you. :laugh:

[Shadow]

Let's be honest. We don't like each other. You don't need to make up a story about me hating men any more than I have to make up you lousy attitude toward gays.

We are enemies. Clear?

Just as long as we are also "clear" that you made that pronouncement...not me.
:rolleyes:

[Wind Song]

Just as long as we are also "clear" that you made that pronouncement...not me.
:rolleyes:

That's right. Post with me at your peril.

[Shadow]

That's right. Post with me at your peril.

Why are you gonna neg me?? LOL

[Wind Song]

Why are you gonna neg me?? LOL


Nope. Just give you a REALLY hard time.

[Shadow]

Nope. Just give you a REALLY hard time.

So? What a stupid comment. :laugh:

[ConHog]

So? What a stupid comment. :laugh:

Careful SHadow, she may be talking about using her strap on on you.


Run girl. :laugh:

[Gunny]

Knock it off please. Address the topic, not each other.

[Wind Song]

So? What a stupid comment. :laugh:

We know where we stand with each other.

[logroller]

And as individuals, I think we also have a contract with society, and to ourselves, to adopt personal responsibility and mitigate the circumstances. There are different companies, different employers, different costs, different medicines - and yet the demand is that ALL companies do it, ALL insurance carry it, ALL employees offer it. Why can't the individual decide what's best for them and figure out how to attain it, or go without it, instead of sticking out their hands and not only demanding who gives it to them, but that they do so for free?
Now we're getting somewhere here Jimmy.:thumb:


College, then law school, toots. (Love that word, btw)

My bad, I never expected my school to give me insurance. They aren't my employer or my parents.
Not only do i not expect my school to give me insurance, I prefer them not to-- I go to school to learn.
Likewise, I go to work to, (you guessed it), work, and in return, get paid-- not with insurance, but legal tender. Seems to be a pretty simple concept.

[Shadow]

We know where we stand with each other.

We do? :laugh:

[tailfins]

If you study history, you will see that when you insure something, it goes up in price. If you want cheap, available contraceptives, push for them to be sold at your local 7-11 next to the anti-hangover vitamins for the price of a candy bar.

For you people "lighting your hair on fire" with hyperbole, you don't draw people to your point of view.

[OCA]

My friends have told me they envy me my relationship to my wife. They tell me that. I don't have to tell myself anything in order to get to sleep. I just snuggle up with my honey and a smile on my face.

You are lying to yourself.

Do you carry a man's wallet and wear flannel shirts? Do you have a mullet that Billy Ray Cyrus envys?

[OCA]

You don't know my friends. I was married in a Buddhist Gonpa by my Lama. My entire community of friends and family were present. My friends love me and my wife the way we are.

Sour grapes for you. Sorry.

Telling ME that MY friends were just being phoney IS a lie. A lie told by you, in order to justify your own hatred and bias.

Can you prove that you were born queer?

My Lama...........................oh boy!:laugh2:


You don't have a wife, two womwn cannot be husband?wife...wife/wife..........whatever lie you guys are currently trying to sell in order to justify your disastrous lifestyle choice.

I'll bet your parents feel ashamed of you.

[OCA]

Whiptail lizards, (Cnemidophorus neomexicanus) found in the American southwest, are all females. They reproduce by parthenogenesis. Unfertilized eggs develop, producing an exact clone of its mother. Even though no males exist, the females still exhibit sexual mating behavior. Those that attract a lesbian partner have been found to produce more and healthier eggs.

You can just consider me a "whiptail lizard" that beat the pants off you in this debate.

Homosexuality is not abberant behaviour, by mere fact it is practised. Saying it is abberant doesn't prove anything. Nature by definition can never make a mistake. Something that is can not at the same time not be.

Can you please identify the queer "gene" found in humans? If you can please notify leading scientists and let them know about your discovery that nobody else on earth knows about.

A whiptail lizard......................:laugh2::laugh2:

[OCA]

Good. Because I owe you nothing. You're the one who said I am "emotionally unavailable" which has nothing to do with debate.

You're a block head. We've been discussing homosexuality all afternoon. I don't normally discuss lesbianism or homosexuality. I just live my life.



http://www.cfsh.net/3.html

[Wind Song]

Can you prove that you were born queer?

My Lama...........................oh boy!:laugh2:


You don't have a wife, two womwn cannot be husband?wife...wife/wife..........whatever lie you guys are currently trying to sell in order to justify your disastrous lifestyle choice.

I'll bet your parents feel ashamed of you.

My parents are deceased. They were never ashamed of me. I am legally married. "Lama" is equivalent to priest in Buddhism.

[OCA]

Get lost. I've been here all afternoon going round and round with this guy. What's the point? His mind is a steel trap.

So anybody who doesn't accept the current lies about the queer choice community being foisted upon the public is closed minded?

[Wind Song]

Can you please identify the queer "gene" found in humans? If you can please notify leading scientists and let them know about your discovery that nobody else on earth knows about.

A whiptail lizard......................:laugh2::laugh2:


A "queer" gene hasn't been identified yet.

[Wind Song]

So anybody who doesn't accept the current lies about the queer choice community being foisted upon the public is closed minded?


I didn't say that.

[Wind Song]

We do? :laugh:


Absolutely.