Live from the Minnesota caucuses!

[gabosaurus]

My husband's oldest sister is more politically inclined than her spouse, so she ventured out to her designated Minneapolis caucus site tonight. Where she was pretty much attacked by Santorum and Paul supporters.
My sister is a "whoever can beat Obama" supporter, which leads her to Romney despite her distaste for him. She texted me earlier because there was some type of procedural BS going on before people could vote.
The extremely early results (about 2 percent) has Santorum with about 50 percent to Paul's rough 24 percent.

[krisy]

Santorum is ahead in Missouri too from what I'm seeing on Fox news.

[avatar4321]

Santorum may sweep the night. Which gives him four wins over Romney's 3. Not that it matters with the delegate count.

[Little-Acorn]

How much campaigning did each candidate do, in each of these three states?

[tailfins]

My husband's oldest sister is more politically inclined than her spouse, so she ventured out to her designated Minneapolis caucus site tonight. Where she was pretty much attacked by Santorum and Paul supporters.
My sister is a "whoever can beat Obama" supporter, which leads her to Romney despite her distaste for him. She texted me earlier because there was some type of procedural BS going on before people could vote.
The extremely early results (about 2 percent) has Santorum with about 50 percent to Paul's rough 24 percent.


I don't understand the distaste for Romney. The economy is in the crapper because the government spends too much money. As long as the President understands this, does it really matter which one is the nominee?

[jimnyc]

nonbinding and extremely small delegate count. Not saying candidates outright ignored areas, but of course they are campaigning wisely and seeking the nomination. These wins mean very little.

[jimnyc]

Just to put things in perspective, here is the full delegate count thus far:

Romney 115
Gingrich 38
Santorum 34
Paul 20

About all that happened was that Santorum picked up about 25 or so delegates. Not dismissing it, but it was very low delegate counts and nonbinding. I believe I read that Romney visited once and had sent a shitload of material to activists within the states. It makes more sense for him, or even Gingrich who had a solid hold on 2nd going in, to use their money wisely on future contests where there is more to lose/gain.

[ConHog]

Just to put things in perspective, here is the full delegate count thus far:

Romney 115
Gingrich 38
Santorum 34
Paul 20

About all that happened was that Santorum picked up about 25 or so delegates. Not dismissing it, but it was very low delegate counts and nonbinding. I believe I read that Romney visited once and had sent a shitload of material to activists within the states. It makes more sense for him, or even Gingrich who had a solid hold on 2nd going in, to use their money wisely on future contests where there is more to lose/gain.

who the fuck put Revlarts in charge of 20 delegates? :laugh2:

[krisy]

I think these wins did Santorum a world of good. He recieved tons of publicity for winning 3 states. Winning makes him a competitor. I heard on the radio that he has recieved $400,000 in donations in the last 2 days.

I would prefer to see them all stay in as long as possible. Last election with McCain stunk. By the time Ohio voted,he allready had won the delegates he needed. We didn't even have a say in the primary.

[logroller]

Last election with McCain stunk. By the time Ohio voted,he allready had won the delegates he needed. We didn't even have a say in the primary.
Move your primaries up and lose half your delegates; its all the rage.:laugh:

[PostmodernProphet]

My sister is a "whoever can beat Obama" supporter

I'm curious.....assuming you were both brought up by the same parents and in the same environment, why is it she grew up so much smarter than you?........is this proof that nature is more powerful than nurture?.......

[Abbey Marie]

I think these wins did Santorum a world of good. He recieved tons of publicity for winning 3 states. Winning makes him a competitor. I heard on the radio that he has recieved $400,000 in donations in the last 2 days.

I would prefer to see them all stay in as long as possible. Last election with McCain stunk. By the time Ohio voted,he allready had won the delegates he needed. We didn't even have a say in the primary.

One national Conservative radio host's daily FB poll asked today, who would you vote for today, and 75% chose Santorum. :thumb:

[Gunny]

My husband's oldest sister is more politically inclined than her spouse, so she ventured out to her designated Minneapolis caucus site tonight. Where she was pretty much attacked by Santorum and Paul supporters.
My sister is a "whoever can beat Obama" supporter, which leads her to Romney despite her distaste for him. She texted me earlier because there was some type of procedural BS going on before people could vote.
The extremely early results (about 2 percent) has Santorum with about 50 percent to Paul's rough 24 percent.

Your admire your husband's oldest sister's stance. I'm voting for whoever runs against Herr Obama.

BTW .. when is the Reichstag going to burn so Der Fuhrer can disolve any vestiges of democracy we have left?

Anyone who votes FOR Herr Obama is a socialist sheep, and anyone who abstains because "their guy" isn't running is so lost in their own selfishness it isn't funny, but just as complicit.

[Noir]

One national Conservative radio host's daily FB poll asked today, who would you vote for today, and 75% chose Santorum. :thumb:

Surly he's just too niche though to be a national president, like being anti-abortion and anti-gay and such is one thing.

But to be anti-contracption, in this day and age?

Not to mention thinking that the constitution does not guarantee personal privacy and that there should be laws against 'sodomy'

Really, for president? =/

[krisy]

Surly he's just too niche though to be a national president, like being anti-abortion and anti-gay and such is one thing.

But to be anti-contracption, in this day and age?

Not to mention thinking that the constitution does not guarantee personal privacy and that there should be laws against 'sodomy'

Really, for president? =/


His anti contraception beliefs go along with that fact he is a Catholic. He has allready stated that in no way would he try to outlaw birth control. That's just silly for anyone to think he would.If he does not believe in b.c.,it's his personal belief and I have no problem with it.

[Noir]

His anti contraception beliefs go along with that fact he is a Catholic. He has allready stated that in no way would he try to outlaw birth control. That's just silly for anyone to think he would.If he does not believe in b.c.,it's his personal belief and I have no problem with it.

Good! Though it does made him a bit of a hypocrite given he said the following when asked about his ethics in practice...

All of us have heard people say, 'I privately am against abortion, homosexual marriage, stem cell research, cloning. But who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' It sounds good, but it is the corruption of freedom of conscience.[124] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#cite_note-Allen-123)

[jimnyc]

Good! Though it does made him a bit of a hypocrite given he said the following when asked about his ethics in practice...

Would you rather a politician make decisions on their personal beliefs? They are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves.

[Noir]

Would you rather a politician make decisions on their personal beliefs? They are supposed to represent their constituents, not themselves.

I would rather they represent their constituency ofcourse, however, Rick can't get away with saying its wrong to say 'who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' based on personal beliefs, and yet do exactly that when it comes to contraception, without it being pointed out that's he's being a hypocrite.

[jimnyc]

I would rather they represent their constituency ofcourse, however, Rick can't get away with saying its wrong to say 'who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' based on personal beliefs, and yet do exactly that when it comes to contraception, without it being pointed out that's he's being a hypocrite.

Did it ever occur to you that this is what the majority of his constituents would want? And maybe why they voted for a Christian "conservative" to begin with?

[krisy]

One national Conservative radio host's daily FB poll asked today, who would you vote for today, and 75% chose Santorum. :thumb:

He is polling well in Ohio and nationally in the Rasmussen polls.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/rasmussen-santorum-even-obama-ohio_626491.html

[PostmodernProphet]

I would rather they represent their constituency ofcourse, however, Rick can't get away with saying its wrong to say 'who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' based on personal beliefs, and yet do exactly that when it comes to contraception, without it being pointed out that's he's being a hypocrite.

does that also cover liberals who say they wouldn't have an abortion but want a woman to be able to have one?.....

[PostmodernProphet]

I just realized something.....the Michigan primary is Feb 28.....I may actually have to choose someone....

[krisy]

Move your primaries up and lose half your delegates; its all the rage.:laugh:

Seems to be! Why do they move them up anyway?

[logroller]

Seems to be! Why do they move them up anyway?

It's just another aspect of political gamesmanship.They seek to have a greater influence on the nomination, believing that earlier on in the primary process is the preferable way to shift momentum in favor of their chosen candidate. The RNC frowns on this, as they believe the schedule of primaries they created creates the best outcome, so they punish those states by cutting their number of delegates in half.

[gabosaurus]

My sister in law in Minneapolis wanted to vote for Santorum, since he is the closest candidate to her beliefs, but voted for Romney because she feels Santorum has no chance to beat Obama.

There are several states where Romney is polling ahead of Obama by as many as five percentage points. Not even close for the other candidates.

[krisy]

My sister in law in Minneapolis wanted to vote for Santorum, since he is the closest candidate to her beliefs, but voted for Romney because she feels Santorum has no chance to beat Obama.

There are several states where Romney is polling ahead of Obama by as many as five percentage points. Not even close for the other candidates.


Not true. Santorum is tied with Obama in Ohio. Id' have to go check out several other critical states as to how he does there.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/rasmussen-santorum-even-obama-ohio_626491.html

[PostmodernProphet]

Obama has no chance of winning the same swing states he won in 08.......