Joe Biden - The Taliban Is Not Our Enemy

[red states rule]

If Obama decided to dump Biden as his running mate, Biden would be a perfect #2 pick for Ron Paul on the Independent ticket

Both are total idiots, and both do not have a clue on foreign policy






Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy. That’s critical. There is not a single statement that the president has ever made in any of our policy assertions that the Taliban is our enemy because it threatens U.S. interests. If, in fact, the Taliban is able to collapse the existing government, which is cooperating with us in keeping the bad guys from being able to do damage to us, then that becomes a problem for us. So there’s a dual track here:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/12/18/joe-biden-on-iraq-iran-china-and-the-taliban.html

[ConHog]

If Obama decided to dump Biden as his running mate, Biden would be a perfect #2 pick for Ron Paul on the Independent ticket

Both are total idiots, and both do not have a clue on foreign policy

There is one reason, and one reason only Biden is kept as VP. All the kooks who would possibly take a shot at Obama pause and reconsider when they think about Biden becoming President.

[Thunderknuckles]

I understand what Joe is getting at when he says "the Taliban per se is not our enemy". There's also a political angle to this: We're trying to work things out with the Taliban, whether or not it will actually work is another argument, but it definitely won't work if we state publicly that the Taliban is the enemy.

In summary: This doesn't rise to the level of a true Biden gaffe. Mountain out of a mole hill.

[fj1200]

In summary: This doesn't rise to the level of a true Biden gaffe. Mountain out of a mole hill.

True, back in '01 we would have left them alone if they had just given over bin Laden.

[Creek]

Both are idiots of foreign policy?

Since when have we had any foreign policy worth a dam in the last 20 some years..or so?..50..?

What is our foreign policy?

The greatest..and once most respected county..now we're the meddlers...controllers.

Our foreign policy?

Is it a military base,you listen to us etc?...Love Israel?

My opinion is it all turned to shit,and fell down before our eyes with the Arab Spring...Some even prior to that.

How many years did we work to prop up alot of these puppet governments..how much did we spend?

As far as the Taliban..go ahead and hold on to your wet dream as if we're gonna accomplish another pupet government in Afghanistan..and exclude them.

IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN...Wake up.:)

The Taliban gave some some safe refuge...just like our allies on the war on terror..Our Pakistani brothers...hahahahaha..:)

They were our buddies during the Russian campaign.

We all know where those 911 hijackasses came from...but Iraq came first on the war on terror,and Afghan next...

Kicked out of Iraq..and we'll be kicked out of there as well.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

We didn't want to take out those responsible...we wanted to take over countries...better said maybe topple them.

But yea...We are now,and always will be labeled enemies by the Taliban,and everyone else over there in the middle east.

We interfere..as in Libya..and Egypt...and we're still trying to have a government in place that serves us in those countries.

Our media tells very little truth to the American people.

Everything we do backfires eventually...And have those running for the presidency ready to bomb Iran.

Everyone is our enemy over there...we make it so.

It's foolish to say the Taliban was ever our enemy,and even more foolish to say our war on terror partners Pakistan gave safe refuge..just like the Taliban.

Of course we don't invade Pakistan...we give them a free get out of jail card,because we want to stick to the original story it's the Taliban to balme.

Anyone ever wonder why we like Afghanistan so much?

Why the Soviet Union was so interested?

Of course not...we're fighting terror...(smile)..:)

[red states rule]

There is one reason, and one reason only Biden is kept as VP. All the kooks who would possibly take a shot at Obama pause and reconsider when they think about Biden becoming President.

If someone is crazy enough to try and overturn an election with a bullet - they are not raqtional enough to care who will take over as President

Biden is anoher example of the poor judgement and bad decisons Obama has made since deciding to run for President

[red states rule]

The Obama re-election staff are doing their job abd ignoring Biden's latest gaffe






Vice President Joe Biden can make the most outrageous gaffes and the major media will try to ignore it. Take his interview with Newsweek. "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy. That's critical," Biden said. "There is not a single statement that the president has ever made in any of our policy assertions that the Taliban is our enemy, because it threatens U.S. interests."

ABC's Jake Tapper blogged the remarks (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/vp-biden-says-that-the-taliban-per-se-is-not-our-enemy/), and asked Jay Carney about them (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jake-tapper-grills-jay-carney-over-joe-biden-taliban-comments-was-it-regrettable/) at the White House. But who covered it? ABC, CBS, and NBC have totally skipped it on air. The Washington Post and The New York Times show no coverage in Nexis -- which often includes their blog postings. USA Today and NPR had nothing. Even the Associated Press has been absent.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/12/21/omission-watch-nets-ap-major-papers-skip-biden-saying-taliban-not-our-en#ixzz1hFUafAZe

[Thunderknuckles]

True, back in '01 we would have left them alone if they had just given over bin Laden.
Exactly. I don't think folks understand the words "per se" well enough. Joe is correct as much as I hate to take his side. The Taliban aren't the enemy "per se". BUT, they chose to harbor and give aid to AQ who is the enemy "per se". As such, the Taliban became a legitimate military target.

[red states rule]

Exactly. I don't think folks understand the words "per se" well enough. Joe is correct as much as I hate to take his side. The Taliban aren't the enemy "per se". BUT, they chose to harbor and give aid to AQ who is the enemy "per se". As such, the Taliban became a legitimate military target.


Even former Dem Gov Doug Wilder is publicly calling for Obama to dump Biden after this lastest gaffe

He is a loyal lib and I was rather surprised to see him on Fox News saying it is time to get rid of Ol' Joe. The internal polls must be really bad for Obama and the Dems

[Thunderknuckles]

Both are idiots of foreign policy?

Since when have we had any foreign policy worth a dam in the last 20 some years..or so?..50..?

What is our foreign policy?

The greatest..and once most respected county..now we're the meddlers...controllers.

Our foreign policy?

Is it a military base,you listen to us etc?...Love Israel?

My opinion is it all turned to shit,and fell down before our eyes with the Arab Spring...Some even prior to that.

How many years did we work to prop up alot of these puppet governments..how much did we spend?

As far as the Taliban..go ahead and hold on to your wet dream as if we're gonna accomplish another pupet government in Afghanistan..and exclude them.

IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN...Wake up.:)

The Taliban gave some some safe refuge...just like our allies on the war on terror..Our Pakistani brothers...hahahahaha..:)

They were our buddies during the Russian campaign.

We all know where those 911 hijackasses came from...but Iraq came first on the war on terror,and Afghan next...

Kicked out of Iraq..and we'll be kicked out of there as well.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

We didn't want to take out those responsible...we wanted to take over countries...better said maybe topple them.

But yea...We are now,and always will be labeled enemies by the Taliban,and everyone else over there in the middle east.

We interfere..as in Libya..and Egypt...and we're still trying to have a government in place that serves us in those countries.

Our media tells very little truth to the American people.

Everything we do backfires eventually...And have those running for the presidency ready to bomb Iran.

Everyone is our enemy over there...we make it so.

It's foolish to say the Taliban was ever our enemy,and even more foolish to say our war on terror partners Pakistan gave safe refuge..just like the Taliban.

Of course we don't invade Pakistan...we give them a free get out of jail card,because we want to stick to the original story it's the Taliban to balme.

Anyone ever wonder why we like Afghanistan so much?

Why the Soviet Union was so interested?

Of course not...we're fighting terror...(smile)..:)
Anyone with a basic understanding of the last 6,000 years of written human history would not have bothered writing that wall of text. If that's the best you can come up with, go "occupy" something.

[red states rule]

Anyone with a basic understanding of the last 6,000 years of written human history would not have bothered writing that wall of text. If that's the best you can come up with, go "occupy" something.

I think he may have already occupied a brewery before making that post

[LuvRPgrl]

Exactly. I don't think folks understand the words "per se" well enough. Joe is correct as much as I hate to take his side. The Taliban aren't the enemy "per se". BUT, they chose to harbor and give aid to AQ who is the enemy "per se". As such, the Taliban became a legitimate military target.

But the taliban is,and was our enemy per se.
before 9/11 the taliban and al quiada had merged.
obl was funding both of them

the govt of saudi arabia had nothing to do with 9/11 and when someone brings that up as a defense, it just proves they are BIG FAT LIARS.

[red states rule]

But the taliban is,and was our enemy per se.
before 9/11 the taliban and al quiada had merged.
obl was funding both of them

the govt of saudi arabia had nothing to do with 9/11 and when someone brings that up as a defense, it just proves they are BIG FAT LIARS.

To Joe Biden, and to liberals in general, America's ONLY enemy is anyone who does not vote Democrat and support tax and spend liberal policies

[Bootneck]

Joe Biden - The Taliban Is Not Our Enemy

You mean the Taliban have missed a PR opportunity regarding all those Terrys killed by friendly fire! Who'd have thunk it! :rolleyes:

[Gunny]

You mean the Taliban have missed a PR opportunity regarding all those Terrys killed by friendly fire! Who'd have thunk it! :rolleyes:

You didn't get the memo?

[Bootneck]

You didn't get the memo?

Well, next time I visit I must remember to invite them for tea, before ripping out their windpipes!

[Gunny]

Well, next time I visit I must remember to invite them for tea, before ripping out their windpipes!

Do those sand monkeys even know what tea is?

[ConHog]

Do those sand monkeys even know what tea is?

The only tea they know is teabag , which they do to camels and little boys.


:laugh2:

[Bootneck]

Do those sand monkeys even know what tea is?

Tea is a major drink in Afghanistan, but they drink it green. They prepare it by boiling the leaves and it ain't very nice. It is very bitter so needs spicing up with cloves and cinnamon and bags of sugar. It's best avoided. What we miss most out there is a few pints of ale and a daily tot of Nelson's Blood. No alcohol allowed. It's as dry as a octagenarian's pussy!

[LuvRPgrl]

You mean the Taliban have missed a PR opportunity regarding all those Terrys killed by friendly fire! Who'd have thunk it! :rolleyes:

what is a "terry"?

[Bootneck]

what is a "terry"?

We call 'em Terry Talibans, normally shortened to just Terry. Sorry. I keep forgetting that our lingo is foreign to most.

[ConHog]

Tea is a major drink in Afghanistan, but they drink it green. They prepare it by boiling the leaves and it ain't very nice. It is very bitter so needs spicing up with cloves and cinnamon and bags of sugar. It's best avoided. What we miss most out there is a few pints of ale and a daily tot of Nelson's Blood. No alcohol allowed. It's as dry as a octagenarian's pussy!

That's disgusting. welcome to the board by the way.

[Bootneck]

That's disgusting. welcome to the board by the way.

What is? An octagenarian's dry pussy, or the fact there is no alcohol?

[ConHog]

What is? An octagenarian's dry pussy, or the fact there is no alcohol?

Both.

[LuvRPgrl]

We call 'em Terry Talibans, normally shortened to just Terry. Sorry. I keep forgetting that our lingo is foreign to most.

ok, then I take back what I was thinking of posting about it.

[Gunny]

Tea is a major drink in Afghanistan, but they drink it green. They prepare it by boiling the leaves and it ain't very nice. It is very bitter so needs spicing up with cloves and cinnamon and bags of sugar. It's best avoided. What we miss most out there is a few pints of ale and a daily tot of Nelson's Blood. No alcohol allowed. It's as dry as a octagenarian's pussy!

Sounds about right. The only alcohol we had in the ME was off the ship. Beer on the Pier. Designed to keep dumbasses from going outside the perimeter into Abu Dabai. One trip on a bus in wide-open country cured me of that idea. Anyone with a shoulder-fired weapon could have taken that bus out in a heartbeat.

[Gunny]

We call 'em Terry Talibans, normally shortened to just Terry. Sorry. I keep forgetting that our lingo is foreign to most.

I knew what you meant. We had less PC, more brutal names for the sand n...ummm.... yeah them.

[Bootneck]

Sounds about right. The only alcohol we had in the ME was off the ship. Beer on the Pier. Designed to keep dumbasses from going outside the perimeter into Abu Dabai. One trip on a bus in wide-open country cured me of that idea. Anyone with a shoulder-fired weapon could have taken that bus out in a heartbeat.

There is a surprising demand for alcohol in Afghanistan fed by illicit distillers. They produce a sort of 'vodka' distilled from raisins. So if you have the right contacts you could get hold of some. Not worth the risks, though. If it doesn't kill you, your arse will be hung out to dry if caught. Even a hint of alcohol on the breath will be enough to send you to the glasshouse.

[Gunny]

There is a surprising demand for alcohol in Afghanistan fed by illicit distillers. They produce a sort of 'vodka' distilled from raisins. So if you have the right contacts you could get hold of some. Not worth the risks, though. If it doesn't kill you, your arse will be hung out to dry if caught. Even a hint of alcohol on the breath will be enough to send you to the glasshouse.

Surprisingly enough, I didn't have anything stronger than ibuprofen in me when deployed. I was the machine the government created. It's when you get home that sucks.