Tebow Leads Broncos in Another Comeback Win

[red states rule]

The liberals who have been bashing Tebow wil not be happy this morning as they have to write and talk about another win for the QB who openly shows his love of Jesus and God

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[ConHog]

The liberals who have been bashing Tebow wil not be happy this morning as they have to write and talk about another win for the QB who openly shows his love of Jesus and God

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PSSST the "liberals" IE the media, have LOVED Timmy since he was a college freshman, and when I say love, I mean FULL ON MAN LOVE, the guy is practically idolized by the media.

There are of course MANY people who hate Tebow, but it isn't based on a political agenda.


I admit to my man crush, this kid is everything that should be right with sports, and more.

[red states rule]

PSSST the "liberals" IE the media, have LOVED Timmy since he was a college freshman, and when I say love, I mean FULL ON MAN LOVE, the guy is practically idolized by the media.

There are of course MANY people who hate Tebow, but it isn't based on a political agenda.


I admit to my man crush, this kid is everything that should be right with sports, and more.

Allow me to refresh your memory CH





Outspoken Christian athlete Tim Tebow, now the starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos, has been widely criticized by many in the media. NFL analysts are starting to admit that criticism, in large part, has been because of his faith.

''Inside the NFL'' analyst and former Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Cris Collinsworth concluded that much of the hatred against Tebow was based on his religious beliefs. Responding to a question from fellow host James 'JB' Brown, Collinsworth showed his disgust for Tebow's treatment: ''It's unbelievable, though, JB, that one of the best kids - just pure kids that's ever come into the NFL - is hated because of his faith, because of his mission work, because of the fact that he wears it on his sleeve, because of the fact that he lives his life that he talks about.''

This isn't the first time the issue has come up. Many sportswriters (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tim-tebow-hype-overblown-jason-whitlock-analysis-101011) and fans have mocked Tebow and hoped to see him fail - in large part, his defenders have argued (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Tim-Tebow-has-right-stuff-to-succeed-in-NFL-believe-it-or-not-101911), because of his strong Christian beliefs. Other football analysts are starting to agree with that assessment.

NBCsports.com commentator Jelisa Castrodale argued (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44940531/ns/sports-nfl/): “The NFL's other backup-turned-starters don't generate this type of negativity.” And CBS analyst and former 49ers offensive lineman Randy Cross blamed the media (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/08/tell-us-is-tebow-backlash-religious-based/1#uslPageReturn) for anti-Tebow coverage: ''People, especially the media, root against him because of what he stands for.''


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/10/21/nfl-analysts-tim-tebow-hated-because-his-faith#ixzz1gUlNzJXO







and






A Boston sports radio host on Friday called Heisman Trophy-winning football star Tim Tebow's "lily white" NFL draft party a "Nazi rally."

For those unfamiliar, 98.5 FM "The Sports Hub" in Boston is home to the NFL's Patriots and the NHL's Bruins.

The morning drive-time program between 6 and 10 AM is called "Toucher and Rich" as it's hosted by Fred “Toucher” Toettcher and Rich Shertenlieb.

According to (http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1249623) the Boston Herald, Toucher on Friday stuck his foot in his mouth BIG TIME

Fred "Toucher" Toettcher said yesterday on 98.5 The Sports Hub, "It looked like some kind of Nazi rally. . . . So lily-white is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives."

The Media Research Center's Dan Gainor offered his opinion to the Herald:

"It's an amazing double standard," Gainor said. "The left has decided to hate Tim Tebow for nothing more than the fact that he's a good guy who tries to live an ethical and religious life."

Tebow is known throughout the sports world as a highly-religious young man with very strong principles concerning abortion.

Outside of his performance on the football field, Tebow garnered national media attention earlier in the year when he was featured in a couple of pro-Life ads with his mother.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/04/24/sports-radio-host-calls-tim-tebows-lily-white-nfl-draft-party-nazi-ra#ixzz1gUmLg1Gr






Need more examples CH?

I got em

[ConHog]

Allow me to refresh your memory CH




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Need more examples CH?

I got em


Need more examples of what exactly? That a FEW don't like Tebow? Well sure, a few don't like anyone. But by and large the media has LOVED Tebow since the day he became a college prospect. I'm a huge SEC football fan and seen it for four years. They LOVED that kid, and why not, he's a great kid. In fact many even went out of their way to be respectful about Tebow's religious views.

[logroller]

I didn't see anything in those articles either, other than people saying "If you don't like Tebow, its because he's outwardly religious." That's like people saying, "if you don't like Obama, its because he's black." I didn't like him because I don't like Florida teams, when Miami played Florida, I wished both could lose. Everybody favors teams, and by extension their players; I favor the Bears-- if Tebow beat them-- I don't like that, or him. I'll hold a grudge, so call me petty-- but its just a game and it has nothing to do with his religion.

[red states rule]

Need more examples of what exactly? That a FEW don't like Tebow? Well sure, a few don't like anyone. But by and large the media has LOVED Tebow since the day he became a college prospect. I'm a huge SEC football fan and seen it for four years. They LOVED that kid, and why not, he's a great kid. In fact many even went out of their way to be respectful about Tebow's religious views.

I guess your middle of the road side is ignoring what Chris Collingworth said in the above post

Today we had this gem from a liberal nutcase





One Rabbi Joshua Hammerman (https://twitter.com/#!/joshuahct), a columnist for The Jewish Week, went off the deep end into a cesspool of anti-Tim Tebow derangement in his December 12 post, "My Tim Tebow" problem.
Former NewsBuster Warner Todd Huston noted the most offensive passage of Hammerman's screed at the website HoosierAccess.com. (http://www.hoosieraccess.com/2011/12/14/new-york-rabbi-a-tim-tebow-win-will-cause-christians-to-burn-mosques-bash-gays/) This paragraph has since been scrubbed from Hammerman's post: (http://www.thejewishweek.com/editorial_opinion/opinion/my_tim_tebow_problem)
If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, against all odds, it will buoy his faithful, and emboldened faithful can do insane things, like burning mosques, bashing gays and indiscriminately banishing immigrants. While America has become more inclusive since Jerry Falwell’s first political forays, a Tebow triumph could set those efforts back considerably.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2011/12/14/new-low-tebow-derangement-syndrome-broncos-win-could-mean-mosques-syna#ixzz1gXsqoAwE






The liberal media started their assualt of Tebow when his Pro Life Super Bowl ad was aired. At that point, the liberal media began treating Tebow like they treated Sarah Palin

[logroller]

Answer me this- is not liking him because of his outward beliefs any different than liking him because of them?

[Missileman]

Answer me this- is not liking him because of his outward beliefs any different than liking him because of them?

How dare you ask a reasonable question?

[red states rule]

Answer me this- is not liking him because of his outward beliefs any different than liking him because of them?

I do not know of anyone who like because of his beliefs. They like him because he is a talented rookie who is having a heck of a run

I do know alot of liberals who are openly showing their distain for his beliefs

Including the lefts more "lovable" guy Bill; Maher. The libs sure chuckle over his "jokes"

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[red states rule]

BTW CH, the hate keeps coming from the liberal media and the oh so tolerant lieft toward Tebow

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[Gunny]

How dare you ask a reasonable question?

Oh Lord. Somebody said "religion" and here you are ... just like the convict beating on a rock with a hammer you are.

[red states rule]

Oh Lord. Somebody said "religion" and here you are ... just like the convict beating on a rock with a hammer you are.


His reaction was the same as the death row inmates the day they found out the electricy had been fixed in the death house

[Gunny]

His reaction was the same as the death row inmates the day they found out the electricy had been fixed in the death house

:laugh:

I think he word-searches "God", "religion", "Jesus", et al every time he logs in.:laugh:

[red states rule]

:laugh:

I think he word-searches "God", "religion", "Jesus", et al every time he logs in.:laugh:


It must be hell for him to read my War on Chrstmas threads

I wonder where the other guy went who said the liberal media LOVED Tebow and there are only a FEW who hated him?

[Gunny]

It must be hell for him to read my War on Chrstmas threads

I wonder where the other guy went who said the liberal media LOVED Tebow and there are only a FEW who hated him?

Are you kidding? You just give the guy a hard-on. He likes to think he swoops in intellectually for the kill like a Japanese Zero out of the sun.:laugh:

[red states rule]

Are you kidding? You just give the guy a hard-on. He likes to think he swoops in intellectually for the kill like a Japanese Zero out of the sun.:laugh:


I knoiw HE thinks he is an expert on every topic, but the only brainstorm he ever had was nothing mroe than a light drizzle

I would like to buy him for what he is really worth and sell him for what HE thinks he is worth

[Gunny]

I knoiw HE thinks he is an expert on every topic, but the only brainstorm he ever had was nothing mroe than a light drizzle

I would like to buy him for what he is really worth and sell him for what HE thinks he is worth

He's actually pretty good on most topics. Just don't invoke that "J----" word or his eyes will glaze over and foam forming on his lips.:laugh:

[red states rule]

He's actually pretty good on most topics. Just don't invoke that "J----" word or his eyes will glaze over and foam forming on his lips.:laugh:


Eh, maybe we are not talking about the same guy Gunny. Now I know who you are talking about and should know who I was talking about

My bad

[Gunny]

Eh, maybe we are not talking about the same guy Gunny. Now I know who you are talking about and should know who I was talking about

My bad

Perhaps you should PM me a name?

[ConHog]

Perhaps you should PM me a name?


No need, he's talking about me. He's trying to tell an SEC football fan how the media felt about Tebow in college :laugh2:

[red states rule]

and here is more from the "few" that hate Tebow

Dame the examples of these "few" sources is getting to add up





Charging blasphemy, which is “the crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God,” is no small accusation. Yet, it’s exactly the charge being thrown at Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

Tebow, an unabashed evangelical Christian, has made his faith known for years. Thus, it was no surprise that, with his recent NFL challenges in mind (he’s been named the backup for Kyle Orton), the 24-year-old told (http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_18621060) Denver Post columnist Woody Paige the following: “I’m relying as always on my faith.” This statement, in itself, shows that the famed football player believes strongly in his faith.

But, it was this very comment that sent CBS News’ Gregg Doyel into a tizzy. In a piece published earlier this month, Doyel targeted (http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/15406131/unbelievable-tebow-believes-faith-equates-to-starting-in-nfl) Tebow’s aforementioned stance on faith and tied it to unrealistic expectations he believes the young player has. Doyel writes:

He has gone through life believing — knowing — that God’s plan for him involves the spectacular, not the mundane. It’s kind of like reincarnation: People who believe in that sort of thing tend to think they were someone famous in a previous life. I’ve never heard anyone say that, in another life, they shoveled out stables for a small farm in Kansas.

He went on to quip, “He’ll make it in this league — for the Bible tells him so.” While this seems like negative commentary on Christianity, Doyel says it’s something very different. In his article, he explains that he’s not against religion, nor is he against Tebow’s belief system. He even admits to, himself, being a churchgoer and an admitted sinner.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-christian-football-star-tim-tebow-really-guilty-of-blasphemy/

[ConHog]

I do not know of anyone who like because of his beliefs. They like him because he is a talented rookie who is having a heck of a run

I do know alot of liberals who are openly showing their distain for his beliefs

Including the lefts more "lovable" guy Bill; Maher. The libs sure chuckle over his "jokes"

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Then this just proves either how ignorant you are about Tebow, or that you're simply ignoring the truth of the matter. There are MANY people who have been rooting for Tebow since day one at Florida because of his faith, and in fact that is at least partially why he has on several occasions made public statements that he personally does not believe that God intervenes in a football game.

[red states rule]

No need, he's talking about me. He's trying to tell an SEC football fan how the media felt about Tebow in college :laugh2:

Hey hotshot, where did I mention his college days? You did in a lame attempt to ignore how the left and liberal media are treating the man NOW


Which is OK, admitting you are worng is not one of your stronger traits. Acting like know it all is one however

[ConHog]

I guess your middle of the road side is ignoring what Chris Collingworth said in the above post

Today we had this gem from a liberal nutcase




The liberal media started their assualt of Tebow when his Pro Life Super Bowl ad was aired. At that point, the liberal media began treating Tebow like they treated Sarah Palin


Oh bullshit, the football media doesn't even care about that anymore. It was a week long story and then gone. They spent more time than that talking about his trip to Disney World with a sick little fan. They spent longer than that talking about his Missionary work in South America. The media LOVES this guy, and as I said, no that doesn't mean ALL the media. but as a rule they love him.

[ConHog]

Hey hotshot, where did I mention his college days? You did in a lame attempt to ignore how the left and liberal media are treating the man NOW


Which is OK, admitting you are worng is not one of your stronger traits. Acting like know it all is one however


I said they have loved him SINCE his college days , that includes currently. You act like Tebow being pro life was some big damn secret until that commercial and once the media found out he felt that way they started hated him. LOL

[red states rule]

Oh bullshit, the football media doesn't even care about that anymore. It was a week long story and then gone. They spent more time than that talking about his trip to Disney World with a sick little fan. They spent longer than that talking about his Missionary work in South America. The media LOVES this guy, and as I said, no that doesn't mean ALL the media. but as a rule they love him.

Once again the self prfesed expert on all topics craps out again

CH, you are really a thin skinned jerk when it comes to admitting when you are wrong

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/tim-tebow-super-bowl-ad-cbs-air-controversial/story?id=9667638

[red states rule]

I said they have loved him SINCE his college days , that includes currently. You act like Tebow being pro life was some big damn secret until that commercial and once the media found out he felt that way they started hated him. LOL

Virgil Lite does his dance again :laugh2:

[red states rule]

CH, here is another one of those "few" examples of the lefts hate for the man

I must admit, it is not hard to find these examples

Maybe you should learn how to do a google search on the topic CH





Don’t fall for Tebow (http://www.debatepolicy.com/2011/12/13/dont_fall_for_tebow/singleton)Sure, he's winning now. But the new cult hero is still a mediocre quarterback -- and a thoroughly obnoxious person
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/13/dont_fall_for_tebow/

[logroller]

I do not know of anyone who like because of his beliefs. They like him because he is a talented rookie who is having a heck of a run

I do know alot of liberals who are openly showing their distain for his beliefs

Including the lefts more "lovable" guy Bill; Maher. The libs sure chuckle over his "jokes"

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Maybe instead of googling "who hates Tim tebow for his religion" you just look
At Wikipedia, which would indicate this is his second year in the NFL( ie not a rookie). But don't let facts interfere with your otherwise unsubstantiated talking points. Fact is plenty of people love and respect tebow for his beliefs, he's having a great deal of success on the field, which, in turn presents the opportunity to use the spotlight to glorify Him. With success comes criticism; Tebow is not exempt from this. Media generates the buzz because Ridicule gets more reads, more reads means more money- thats all that matters to media, lib or con. But look at how the two lions' defensemen were treated for mocking the tebowing, the overwhelming view by the media is in support of Tebow's PDF, not in ridiculing it. But absent anything of substance to report on, gee I don't know, like I'd tebow said something about how one defense presented a challenge or some such, the media latchesonto whatever story they can. But that's not what tebow wants them to report on, obviously, else he'd talk about that instead of praising Jesus in every interview; that son him RSR. No saying he's wrong for doing so- but he's responsible- not media.

[ConHog]

Once again the self prfesed expert on all topics craps out again

CH, you are really a thin skinned jerk when it comes to admitting when you are wrong

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/tim-tebow-super-bowl-ad-cbs-air-controversial/story?id=9667638

First of all, what's with the name calling from you? I've not engaged in any of that in regards to you.

Second of all, on the VERY rare occasion that I am wrong I have no problem admitting it

In regards to your examples of the liberal media hating Tebow. How ignorant, I can find proof of ANYTHING on the internet. You pick a stance, no matter how far out there, and I could find quotes from someone or someones supporting that stance. Even if you post a thousand examples of individual media members who hate Tebow, they don't represent the liberal media as a whole, and in fact you don't even know for sure WHY they hate Tebow. The fact of the matter is most of the people who "hate" him are simply jealous of how successful he has been at everything he's done in his life so far, and couldn't care less about his religion.

[jimnyc]

Here's my take on Tebow:

Some people love him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people hate him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people love him for his athletic abilities
Some people hate him as they think he sucks as a QB

Me, personally, I think he's one hell of an athlete. He's very smart too and they say he is putting in hours and hours to learn the systems of not only his own team but others as well. I give him a C grade for his QB ability so far this year. I give him an F for 1st-3rd quarters and an A+ for 4th quarters. This guys is a winner as an athlete and I think that's why he finds ways to win, and why his team believes in him and works harder to help him.

I think the media is twisted too. Many are gaga over him and many can't stop talking about him and his faith, many talk about him sucking as a QB... This is the big leagues, the NFL, as long as he wins he will be talked about in many areas.

[ConHog]

Here's my take on Tebow:

Some people love him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people hate him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people love him for his athletic abilities
Some people hate him as they think he sucks as a QB

Me, personally, I think he's one hell of an athlete. He's very smart too and they say he is putting in hours and hours to learn the systems of not only his own team but others as well. I give him a C grade for his QB ability so far this year. I give him an F for 1st-3rd quarters and an A+ for 4th quarters. This guys is a winner as an athlete and I think that's why he finds ways to win, and why his team believes in him and works harder to help him.

I think the media is twisted too. Many are gaga over him and many can't stop talking about him and his faith, many talk about him sucking as a QB... This is the big leagues, the NFL, as long as he wins he will be talked about in many areas.



I honestly believe you could put Tebow at any job and he would be successful. He just works his ass off to be the best he can be.

[red states rule]

First of all, what's with the name calling from you? I've not engaged in any of that in regards to you.

Second of all, on the VERY rare occasion that I am wrong I have no problem admitting it

In regards to your examples of the liberal media hating Tebow. How ignorant, I can find proof of ANYTHING on the internet. You pick a stance, no matter how far out there, and I could find quotes from someone or someones supporting that stance. Even if you post a thousand examples of individual media members who hate Tebow, they don't represent the liberal media as a whole, and in fact you don't even know for sure WHY they hate Tebow. The fact of the matter is most of the people who "hate" him are simply jealous of how successful he has been at everything he's done in his life so far, and couldn't care less about his religion.


Only in your opinion are you rarely wrong

I have found many examples in the last few days since you said on a few people hate Tebow for his beleifs.

I understand being a middle of the roaders you do not want to PO anyone (except conservatives) and you continue to take your high road whcih bypasses facts that prove your silly ass wrong

If he was a Muslum giving thanks to Allah on the sidelines, these same libs would not be saying a word in anger - but praising him for his strong convictions

[ConHog]

Only in your opinion are you seldopm wrong

I have fiund many examples in the last few days since you said on a few people hate Tebow for his beleifs.

I understand being a middle of the roaders you fo not want to PO anyone (except conservatives) and you continue to take your high road whcih bypasses facts that prove your silly ass wrong

If he was a Muslum giving thanks to Allah on the sidelines, these same libs would not be saying a word in anger - but praising him for his strong convictions


Fine, I can see you want to get nasty. Now I feel stupid for having defended you against that idiot Virgil, because NO doubt you egged him on just the way you are doing here.

You're a fucking retard RSR. Not everything is liberal vs conservative. Believe it or not there are some conservatives who don't like him praising Jesus all the time either ( in fact you cited one yourself -the Jewish blogger.) Likewise, there are many liberal media members who think Tebow sets a great example and that if all followers of Jesus acted more like him the world would be a better place.

He's a star athlete p.laying the premier position at one of the bigger media centers in the NFL, OF COURSE he is going to be scrutinized and of course some are going to criticize his vocal support of his religion. That's life.

By the way you idiot, if an NFL QB ever praised Allah in a national interview he would be ridiculed until the end of time. FoxNews would probably do a special on it. Big deal.

[Missileman]

Oh Lord. Somebody said "religion" and here you are ... just like the convict beating on a rock with a hammer you are.

Damned if you aren't the whiniest bitch around. One of these days it might sink in to that thick skull of yours...I'll post where and what I want. Don't like it, tough shit.

[red states rule]

Fine, I can see you want to get nasty. Now I feel stupid for having defended you against that idiot Virgil, because NO doubt you egged him on just the way you are doing here.

You're a fucking retard RSR. Not everything is liberal vs conservative. Believe it or not there are some conservatives who don't like him praising Jesus all the time either ( in fact you cited one yourself -the Jewish blogger.) Likewise, there are many liberal media members who think Tebow sets a great example and that if all followers of Jesus acted more like him the world would be a better place.

He's a star athlete p.laying the premier position at one of the bigger media centers in the NFL, OF COURSE he is going to be scrutinized and of course some are going to criticize his vocal support of his religion. That's life.

By the way you idiot, if an NFL QB ever praised Allah in a national interview he would be ridiculed until the end of time. FoxNews would probably do a special on it. Big deal.


Looks like I got under your thin skin again son. I seem to have that ability by posting facts that show you are full of it

It is also funny you do show they same tolerant attitude you demand others show

I guess that is all part of your "middle of the road" show you are on

Your real liberal side is starting to ome out more and more CH. Not that you could have kept up that side show for long anyway

[ConHog]

Looks like I got under your thin skin again son. I seem to have that ability by posting facts that show you are full of it

It is also funny you do show they same tolerant attitude you demand others show

I guess that is all part of your "middle of the road" show you are on

Your real liberal side is starting to ome out more and more CH. Not that you could have kept up that side show for long anyway

Callling someone names is showing facts? If that's the case then you definitely post lots of facts on this board.

And being called liberal by someone who considers Karl Marx to be a hippy isn't near as stinging as you might think. :laugh:

[red states rule]

Callling someone names is showing facts? If that's the case then you definitely post lots of facts on this board.

And being called liberal by someone who considers Karl Marx to be a hippy isn't near as stinging as you might think. :laugh:

Now you play the pity me card. How typical

In the short time you have been here you have told us how your are an expert on sports, business and finance, the Public school system, secondary education, small business administration, and the medical industry

Yet everytime soemoen psosts links to counter your aquthority you go into a tissy.

You have bellowed how people should not judge, and how there not everything is right/left. IOW, you really stand for nothing CH. Like John Kerry you blow in whatever direction the wind blows

You siad how only a few lefties hate Tebow and I have posted link after link of libs showing their hate for the man

But being a closet lib, your thin skin was pricked and you do not like that one bit

[ConHog]

Now you play the pity me card. How typical

In the short time you have been here you have told us how your are an expert on sports, business and finance, the Public school system, secondary education, small business administration, and the medical industry

Yet everytime soemoen psosts links to counter your aquthority you go into a tissy.

You have bellowed how people should not judge, and how there not everything is right/left. IOW, you really stand for nothing CH. Like John Kerry you blow in whatever direction the wind blows

You siad how only a few lefties hate Tebow and I have posted link after link of libs showing their hate for the man

But being a closet lib, your thin skin was pricked and you do not like that one bit

Pointing out that you are a name calling dipshit isn't asking for pity.


I've bellowed that people shouldn't judge? I'm the most judgmental asshole I know and I judge everyone, I certainly wouldn't presume to tell someone else they shouldn't do so. Unlike you, I'm no hypocrite.

Not everything is a right/left issue. Keep your stinking politics out of my football.

I stand for nothing? I live my life by an oath that you will NEVER understand Red. I swore to defend the rights of my fellow citizens. Not just the citizens I agree with , but all citizens. I would to this day lay down my life to defend your right to call me names and curse about me on a message board. That isn't something I take lightly, and I find it sad that you you only believe that those whom you agree with should enjoy the simplest right to free speech. OH NOES some might hate Tebow b/c he's a Christian. Big fucking deal...............

And once again, being called a liberal by Chariman RedState isn't near as hurtful as you hope it to be. BUT if there is one thing I am NOT it is in the closet about anything. I speak my mind.

[logroller]

Here's my take on Tebow:

Some people love him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people hate him because he is a Christian and makes it known
Some people love him for his athletic abilities
Some people hate him as they think he sucks as a QB

Me, personally, I think he's one hell of an athlete. He's very smart too and they say he is putting in hours and hours to learn the systems of not only his own team but others as well. I give him a C grade for his QB ability so far this year. I give him an F for 1st-3rd quarters and an A+ for 4th quarters. This guys is a winner as an athlete and I think that's why he finds ways to win, and why his team believes in him and works harder to help him.

I think the media is twisted too. Many are gaga over him and many can't stop talking about him and his faith, many talk about him sucking as a QB... This is the big leagues, the NFL, as long as he wins he will be talked about in many areas.

I'm mostly burnt b/c he beat the bears. I do think its a fair statement that he uses his fame to bring attn to his faith and or political message. which will inspire both praise and criticism, duh. Media spins it one way or another, that's not lib or con, just the nature of media; one plays off the other to generate buzz,(more reads, clicks, viewers) = money. Saying otherwise is evidence of one's own biased opinion or just flat out ignorance of what motivates media.

[ConHog]

I'm mostly burnt b/c he beat the bears. I do think its a fair statement that he uses his fame to bring attn to his faith and or political message. which will inspire both praise and criticism, duh. Media spins it one way or another, that's not lib or con, just the nature of media; one plays off the other to generate buzz,(more reads, clicks, viewers) = money. Saying otherwise is evidence of one's own biased opinion or just flat out ignorance of what motivates media.

Hey RSR. That just happened.:laugh:

[red states rule]

Pointing out that you are a name calling dipshit isn't asking for pity.


I've bellowed that people shouldn't judge? I'm the most judgmental asshole I know and I judge everyone, I certainly wouldn't presume to tell someone else they shouldn't do so. Unlike you, I'm no hypocrite.

Not everything is a right/left issue. Keep your stinking politics out of my football.

I stand for nothing? I live my life by an oath that you will NEVER understand Red. I swore to defend the rights of my fellow citizens. Not just the citizens I agree with , but all citizens. I would to this day lay down my life to defend your right to call me names and curse about me on a message board. That isn't something I take lightly, and I find it sad that you you only believe that those whom you agree with should enjoy the simplest right to free speech. OH NOES some might hate Tebow b/c he's a Christian. Big fucking deal...............

And once again, being called a liberal by Chariman RedState isn't near as hurtful as you hope it to be. BUT if there is one thing I am NOT it is in the closet about anything. I speak my mind.


Wow, first you act like OCA now you act like Virgil playing "I served in the military" card

CH you really should not be on a message/debate board if you get all worked up when people disagree with you and show you where you are wrong

But it is nice to have you around to remind us of both OCA and Virgil and what they "contributed" to the board. We have to remember what is was like doing those dark days when both of them were posting at the same time

Go ahead and speak your mind, in reality it would only take a few seconds. With you inflating your resume, it could take weeks

[Gunny]

No need, he's talking about me. He's trying to tell an SEC football fan how the media felt about Tebow in college :laugh2:

He was "the next best thing" in college; especially, in SEC media. A sad commentary but true ... high school and college football trump politics in the South.

A few pundits are on his butt now because he's an unashamed Christian. Tough shit. He's as entitled to his beliefs as anyone else. The Christian-haters won't admit that. Yet you see those same people apologizing for Muslims, Jews, and most especially the religious atheists -- you know, the ones that have made an organized religion out of aggressive and vocal non-belief.

The guy gets paid to play football. If you don't want to hear the answers to questions about his personal life, don't ask.

[red states rule]

He was "the next best thing" in college; especially, in SEC media. A sad commentary but true ... high school and college football trump politics in the South.

A few pundits are on his butt now because he's an unashamed Christian. Tough shit. He's as entitled to his beliefs as anyone else. The Christian-haters won't admit that. Yet you see those same people apologizing for Muslims, Jews, and most especially the religious atheists -- you know, the ones that have made an organized religion out of aggressive and vocal non-belief.

The guy gets paid to play football. If you don't want to hear the answers to questions about his personal life, don't ask.

More than a few pundits, but otherwise you are spot on Gunny

[Gunny]

More than a few pundits, but otherwise you are spot on Gunny

Fuck 'em. He's paid to play football. He's delivering. The Roman citizens should shut up as long as he delivers at the Games.

[red states rule]

Fuck 'em. He's paid to play football. He's delivering. The Roman citizens should shut up as long as he delivers at the Games.

Yes he is playing well, winning games, AND PISSING OFF LIBERALS

Overall I am very pleased with his performance

[ConHog]

He was "the next best thing" in college; especially, in SEC media. A sad commentary but true ... high school and college football trump politics in the South.

A few pundits are on his butt now because he's an unashamed Christian. Tough shit. He's as entitled to his beliefs as anyone else. The Christian-haters won't admit that. Yet you see those same people apologizing for Muslims, Jews, and most especially the religious atheists -- you know, the ones that have made an organized religion out of aggressive and vocal non-belief.

The guy gets paid to play football. If you don't want to hear the answers to questions about his personal life, don't ask.

Absolutely agreed Gunny, but MOST of the commentators who are anti Tebow right now are anti Tebow because his mechanics are HORRIBLE and yet all he does is win. A FEW bash him for his faith, most don't. FAR more praise him for his faith than bash him for it, and that's a fact.

[ConHog]

Wow, first you act like OCA now you act like Virgil playing "I served in the military" card

CH you really should not be on a message/debate board if you get all worked up when people disagree with you and show you where you are wrong

But it is nice to have you around to remind us of both OCA and Virgil and what they "contributed" to the board. We have to remember what is was like doing those dark days when both of them were posting at the same time

Go ahead and speak your mind, in reality it would only take a few seconds. With you inflating your resume, it could take weeks

Fuck you you little pissant, you questioned my beliefs and then ridicule me when I tell you exactly where my beliefs come from?

[Little-Acorn]

New England Patriots 41
Denver Broncos 23

Final

[ConHog]

New England Patriots 41
Denver Broncos 23

Final

And not negative word spoke by the "liberal" media about Tebow's religion.

[red states rule]

And not negative word spoke by the "liberal" media about Tebow's religion.

You don't get out much do you son? From CNN (i.e. the Clinton News Network)


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[red states rule]

Fuck you you little pissant, you questioned my beliefs and then ridicule me when I tell you exactly where my beliefs come from?

and that was the response I got from Virgil as well.

You must be going back and studying his posts to have them down that good :laugh2:

[logroller]

You don't get out much do you son? From CNN (i.e. the Clinton News Network)


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I believe that was sarcastically negative; in other words, positive commentary.

[red states rule]

I believe that was sarcastically negative; in other words, positive commentary.

That is the usualy excuse when a member of the liberal media tells the truth about how he/she feels about a conservative or religious person

It was all a joke

But with Al Gore's amazing internet it is really easy to find these "few" examples of the left's hate for Tebow

[logroller]

That is the usualy excuse when a member of the liberal media tells the truth about how he/she feels about a conservative or religious person

It was all a joke

But with Al Gore's amazing internet it is really easy to find these "few" examples of the left's hate for Tebow

He also mentioned that quarterbacks who sleep around with supermodels and who kill dogs are exemplary role models-- it was clearly a joke, he even clarified that at the end of segment when the CNN host seemed perplexed by his outrageous position. Honestly RSR, you gotta give up this hate for the liberal media; it's affecting your ability to reason.

[red states rule]

He also mentioned that quarterbacks who sleep around with supermodels and who kill dogs are exemplary role models-- it was clearly a joke, he even clarified that at the end of segment when the CNN host seemed perplexed by his outrageous position. Honestly RSR, you gotta give up this hate for the liberal media; it's affecting your ability to reason.

Yea, its always a joke when a liberal makes that type of comment. First I was told only a few in the liberal media hate Tebow because of his religion - now the examples I use are now jokes and they do not count

LR, this has been going on for along time. The left will use the excuse "it was a joke" whenever they get caught expressing their ture fellings about the people they hold in contempt

I remember the excuse John "I served in Viet Nam" used to dismiss his opinion of the IQ level of the troops as a "botched joke"

[jimnyc]

He also mentioned that quarterbacks who sleep around with supermodels and who kill dogs are exemplary role models-- it was clearly a joke, he even clarified that at the end of segment when the CNN host seemed perplexed by his outrageous position. Honestly RSR, you gotta give up this hate for the liberal media; it's affecting your ability to reason.

I saw a lot on TV where they were "play mocking" him, but I thought all in all he got a lot of respect last night and today. People realized that no matter how much of a winner he was, beating Brady and the Patriots was no easy task. He's got his team on the verge of a playoff entry and I think a lot of the pundits are coming around and realizing he's much better than they had anticipated. With continued work, this kid will certainly leave his mark in the NFL. I just hope Denver doesn't give up on him. People need to remember that this is his first year into the fire, and with his work ethics and his desire to win, he's only going to become a more complete QB.

[Gunny]

Absolutely agreed Gunny, but MOST of the commentators who are anti Tebow right now are anti Tebow because his mechanics are HORRIBLE and yet all he does is win. A FEW bash him for his faith, most don't. FAR more praise him for his faith than bash him for it, and that's a fact.

One of the worst quarterbacks EVER his rookie year was Terry Bradshaw. He sucked. How'd that work for him in the long run? One of the highest rated QBs was Vince Young. How's that working for him? Stats are Bullshit. Tebow gets out on the field and LEADS. I could never stand Staubach, Elway, nor even the Broncos, but guess what ... you get that indomitable will out there and you better find a good answer or he'll kick your ass every time.

[ConHog]

One of the worst quarterbacks EVER his rookie year was Terry Bradshaw. He sucked. How'd that work for him in the long run? One of the highest rated QBs was Vince Young. How's that working for him? Stats are Bullshit. Tebow gets out on the field and LEADS. I could never stand Staubach, Elway, nor even the Broncos, but guess what ... you get that indomitable will out there and you better find a good answer or he'll kick your ass every time.

After watching 3 years of Tebow in the SEC, I had NO doubt that he would be a winner in the NFL. I believe he'd be a winner at anything he chose to do.

[red states rule]

After watching 3 years of Tebow in the SEC, I had NO doubt that he would be a winner in the NFL. I believe he'd be a winner at anything he chose to do.

For someone who bellows how he knows so much about Tebow; and the liberal media's coverage of his past - you know very little (or so you claim) about the current coverage of Tebow by the liberal media

[ConHog]

For someone who bellows how he knows so much about Tebow; and the liberal media's coverage of his past - you know very little (or so you claim) about the current coverage of Tebow by the liberal media

Give it a rest RSR. If the media loved this guy anymore, he'd have his own television network.

[Gunny]

For someone who bellows how he knows so much about Tebow; and the liberal media's coverage of his past - you know very little (or so you claim) about the current coverage of Tebow by the liberal media

What does what the "liberal media" says about Tim Tebow have to do with Tim Tebow? I get sick of this shit. Can he play football and lead a team? Yes. What's he getting paid to do? Play football and lead a team. Of course the media's going to go after him. That's all they are about.

[ConHog]

What does what the "liberal media" says about Tim Tebow have to do with Tim Tebow? I get sick of this shit. Can he play football and lead a team? Yes. What's he getting paid to do? Play football and lead a team. Of course the media's going to go after him. That's all they are about.

Exactly, has nothing to do with religion. hell , most of the grief they give him is based on his unconventional playing style. BUT they also admit that he's pure winner.

[Gunny]

Exactly, has nothing to do with religion. hell , most of the grief they give him is based on his unconventional playing style. BUT they also admit that he's pure winner.

Used to say the same thing about Ken Stabler. He couldn't throw. He couldn't run. Well, all except for those SB victories he sucked.

[ConHog]

Used to say the same thing about Ken Stabler. He couldn't throw. He couldn't run. Well, all except for those SB victories he sucked.

Exactly, they do it for one reason, and one reason only.

Controversy sells. PERIOD. Has nothing to do with Tebow even, let alone his religion.

[Gunny]

Exactly, they do it for one reason, and one reason only.

Controversy sells. PERIOD. Has nothing to do with Tebow even, let alone his religion.

Fuck them. I have no problem with his religion and I DAMNED SURE don't have a problem with his having the balls to say so.

[ConHog]

Fuck them. I have no problem with his religion and I DAMNED SURE don't have a problem with his having the balls to say so.

All I can say is that I pray that both my daughter and my niece meet a Tim Tebow caliber person when they grow up, and I don't care if the guy can play sports at all.

[Gunny]

All I can say is that I pray that both my daughter and my niece meet a Tim Tebow caliber person when they grow up, and I don't care if the guy can play sports at all.

No shit.

[Toro]

Tim Tebow is a douchebag ...



















... because he's a Gator!

I couldn't care less about his religion.

[Toro]

Actually, I've grown to like Tebow TBH.

What I don't like is all the over-the-top fawning adulation.

It didn't just start here. It was in college too. Listening to the announcers gush over Tebow during Gator games made me want to puke all over my expensive HDTV. Then, last year, his was one of the top, if not the top, selling jersey in the NFL. Why? He had done nothing! He was, to some, a Football Messiah! Give me a break.

Given that a typical NFL roster often looks like the incarceration record of the local jail, the NFL needs more guys like Tim Tebow. I just wish his fans, nay worshippers, would STFU.

[Toro]

I said they have loved him SINCE his college days , that includes currently. You act like Tebow being pro life was some big damn secret until that commercial and once the media found out he felt that way they started hated him. LOL

FFS I thought the SEC announcers were going to cream their jeans whenever they spoke about Tebow.

[red states rule]

Exactly, has nothing to do with religion. hell , most of the grief they give him is based on his unconventional playing style. BUT they also admit that he's pure winner.

Why are you here CH? You seem to know more about football then these former players do. You should be doing one of the Pre Game shows on Fox or CBS
You could educate Howie Long all about the game :laugh2:

So what if these guys who follow football for a living agree Tebow is being attacked for his religious beliefs. YOU say it isn't so - that makes them wrong





Outspoken Christian athlete Tim Tebow, now the starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos, has been widely criticized by many in the media. NFL analysts are starting to admit that criticism, in large part, has been because of his faith.

''Inside the NFL'' analyst and former Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Cris Collinsworth concluded that much of the hatred against Tebow was based on his religious beliefs. Responding to a question from fellow host James 'JB' Brown, Collinsworth showed his disgust for Tebow's treatment: ''It's unbelievable, though, JB, that one of the best kids - just pure kids that's ever come into the NFL - is hated because of his faith, because of his mission work, because of the fact that he wears it on his sleeve, because of the fact that he lives his life that he talks about.''

This isn't the first time the issue has come up. Many sportswriters (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tim-tebow-hype-overblown-jason-whitlock-analysis-101011) and fans have mocked Tebow and hoped to see him fail - in large part, his defenders have argued (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Tim-Tebow-has-right-stuff-to-succeed-in-NFL-believe-it-or-not-101911), because of his strong Christian beliefs. Other football analysts are starting to agree with that assessment.

NBCsports.com commentator Jelisa Castrodale argued (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44940531/ns/sports-nfl/): “The NFL's other backup-turned-starters don't generate this type of negativity.” And CBS analyst and former 49ers offensive lineman Randy Cross blamed the media (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/08/tell-us-is-tebow-backlash-religious-based/1#uslPageReturn) for anti-Tebow coverage: ''People, especially the media, root against him because of what he stands for.''


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wi...#ixzz1gUlNzJXO (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/10/21/nfl-analysts-tim-tebow-hated-because-his-faith#ixzz1gUlNzJXO)








and





A Boston sports radio host on Friday called Heisman Trophy-winning football star Tim Tebow's "lily white" NFL draft party a "Nazi rally."

For those unfamiliar, 98.5 FM "The Sports Hub" in Boston is home to the NFL's Patriots and the NHL's Bruins.

The morning drive-time program between 6 and 10 AM is called "Toucher and Rich" as it's hosted by Fred “Toucher” Toettcher and Rich Shertenlieb.

According to (http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1249623) the Boston Herald, Toucher on Friday stuck his foot in his mouth BIG TIME
Fred "Toucher" Toettcher said yesterday on 98.5 The Sports Hub, "It looked like some kind of Nazi rally. . . . So lily-white is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives."

The Media Research Center's Dan Gainor offered his opinion to the Herald:
"It's an amazing double standard," Gainor said. "The left has decided to hate Tim Tebow for nothing more than the fact that he's a good guy who tries to live an ethical and religious life."

Tebow is known throughout the sports world as a highly-religious young man with very strong principles concerning abortion.

Outside of his performance on the football field, Tebow garnered national media attention earlier in the year when he was featured in a couple of pro-Life ads with his mother.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...#ixzz1gUmLg1Gr (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/04/24/sports-radio-host-calls-tim-tebows-lily-white-nfl-draft-party-nazi-ra#ixzz1gUmLg1Gr)

[red states rule]

Fuck them. I have no problem with his religion and I DAMNED SURE don't have a problem with his having the balls to say so.

But as usual, many on the left do Gunny

And it shows in their coverage of the man

Which is the purpose of this thread

[ConHog]

Why are you here CH? You seem to know more about football then these former players do. You should be doing one of the Pre Game shows on Fox or CBS
You could educate Howie Long all about the game :laugh2:

So what if these guys who follow football for a living agree Tebow is being attacked for his religious beliefs. YOU say it isn't so - that makes them wrong

Another babbling attempt at an insult RSR? What does saying Tebow isn't being attacked for being a Christian have to do with football knowledge?

[red states rule]

Another babbling attempt at an insult RSR? What does saying Tebow isn't being attacked for being a Christian have to do with football knowledge?

Nopt at all hotshot. You keep babbling how Tebow is only attacked by a "few" sources for his religious beliefs - and I have given you many examples

You seem to know more about what is going on in football then people like Cris Collinsworth and opther football analysts

By your own post, it is seldom you are wrong and that itself is a clear error

[Gunny]

Tim Tebow is a douchebag ...



















... because he's a Gator!

I couldn't care less about his religion.

I'm a U of Miami fan myself.

[red states rule]

I'm a U of Miami fan myself.

Hey nobody is perfect Gunny

We still love ya pal

[ConHog]

I'm a U of Miami fan myself.

The U of Miami is the crummiest football program in college football. Shitty stadium, cheating players, thugs, and losers. But hey once long ago, they won some ball games. Second most disgusting loss I've ever watched my beloved Hogs take 1989 Cotton Bowl (maybe 1990?) 51-7 I couldn't believe it.

I'd love to get some Hurricane today.

[Toro]

I'm a U of Miami fan myself.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Chief_Osceola_on_Renegade_FSU.jpg/220px-Chief_Osceola_on_Renegade_FSU.jpg

[red states rule]

The liberal media's "love" of Tebow keeps coming out





Recently, nearly 8,000 fans have petitioned the Denver Broncos to participate in an online campaign against the bullying of gay teens. But the team has declined to join "It Gets Better," saying it is already, "committed to tolerance, acceptance and respect for all in the community."
But that wasn't enough for liberal media like the Huffington Post - they are intent on blaming their favorite punching bag (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/20/denver-broncos-tim-tebow-it-gets-better-video_n_1159101.html?1324394937), Christian quarterback Tim Tebow for the team's decision.

The "It Gets Better" project is an online project against gay teen bullying that resulted from a string of highly publicized gay teen suicides in 2009. The project, headed up by notoriously vile gay sex columnist Dan Savage, is a collection of YouTube videos submitted by those that wish to encourage bullied teens to hang in there. The project boasts such famous names as Ke$ha, Senate Democrats and even Barack Obama.

Tebow is the "miracle" quarterback for the Denver Broncos. He began the season on the bench, but after the Broncos' abysmal start, Tebow took over at QB, and has brought the team to 8-6, winning seven of the last nine games with him in the pocket, and a shot at the playoffs. His unconventional style as a quarterback and his outspoken evangelical Christianity have made him a hot topic (http://www.mrc.org/cmi/cmi/articles/2011/NFL_Analysts_Tim_Tebow_Hated_Because_of_His_Faith. html) in not only the sports world, but in religious and cultural circles as well. Jokes like "You can't lose when you've got JC in the pocket!" have permeated sports radio talk stations the nation over.

The secular left and media have ridiculed the former Heismann Trophy winner's faith since he was in college, playing with Bible verses scrawled in his game-day eye black. Then he appeared in a pro-life commercial (http://www.lifenews.com/2010/02/07/nat-5973/) with his mother that aired during Super bowl XLIV in 2010. The ad, tame in comparison to the pre-broadcast furor it caused, was sponsored by the socially conservative group, Focus on the Family.

Gay activists suspect Tebow's involvement with Focus on the Family is the reason (http://www.towleroad.com/2011/12/tim-tebow-will-not-be-participating-in-an-it-gets-better-video.html#ixzz1hDHarT9o) he and the Broncos will not participate in this anti-bullying campaign.

"Last year, Tebow produced a Super Bowl ad for anti-gay, anti-choice Evangelical group Focus on the Family, and given the group's anti-LGBT slant, folks have been curious about Tebow's personal views on gay issues, bullying being just one of them," wrote Andy Towle at Towleroad.com.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/erin-r-brown/2011/12/22/lefty-media-blame-tebow-broncos-inaction-anti-bullying-campaign#ixzz1hLWAxYiN

[red states rule]

I wonder if our resident football expert will have any comment on the left's continuing hatefest toward Tebow

After all, our resident football expert said their is no hate shown toward Tebow because of his faith. I guess the following example is more right wing propaganda - right?





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On Christmas Eve, the Denver Broncos suffered a pretty hefty loss to the Buffalo Bills (the final score was 40-14). It seemed Tebow, who has captivated fans and media audiences over the past two months, was off of his game — to say the least.

Maher, who is highly critical of religion, found the loss entertaining enough to tweet about it. His message, which employed some pretty harsh themes, read, “Wow, Jesus just f**ked #TimTebow (https://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23TimTebow) bad! And on Xmas Eve! Somewhere in hell Satan is tebowing, saying to Hitler “Hey, Buffalo’s killing them.” Here’s a copy (https://twitter.com/#!/billmaher) of the offensive message:

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bill-maher.pngFox News’ Eric Bolling, among others, responded strongly to the social media proclamation. Here’s a tweet that Bolling responded with (https://twitter.com/#!/ericbolling):

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/eric-bolling-620x103.png

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bill-maher-tweets-jesus-just-fked-timtebow-bad-on-christmas-eve/

[Gunny]

I wonder if our resident football expert will have any comment on the left's continuing hatefest toward Tebow

After all, our resident football expert said their is no hate shown toward Tebow because of his faith. I guess the following example is more right wing propaganda - right?

Who cares? The leftist media can go to f-ing Hell. He's a leader. An intangible asset that defies all the stats. As long as the team believes in him, he's there. Al Davis couldn't stand Ken Stabler, but guess what? He was the QB for his team for quite a number of years because he could win. Roger Staubach came in as a replacement for Craig Morton (the latter having all the accolades) and guess who never got his job back? I couldn't stand Staubach myself, but you KNEW when he walked on the field -- unlike Tony Homo -- the "Boys were marching down the field no matter how many dance tricks he had to pull.

The politics of professional sports is big markets vs small ones. The NBA wants the Lakers vs the Nicks every year. I can just see idiot boy gritting his teeth that the Spurs won 4 championships in 10 years. It isn't about right or left. It's about money.

[red states rule]

Who cares? The leftist media can go to f-ing Hell. He's a leader. An intangible asset that defies all the stats. As long as the team believes in him, he's there. Al Davis couldn't stand Ken Stabler, but guess what? He was the QB for his team for quite a number of years because he could win. Roger Staubach came in as a replacement for Craig Morton (the latter having all the accolades) and guess who never got his job back? I couldn't stand Staubach myself, but you KNEW when he walked on the field -- unlike Tony Homo -- the "Boys were marching down the field no matter how many dance tricks he had to pull.

The politics of professional sports is big markets vs small ones. The NBA wants the Lakers vs the Nicks every year. I can just see idiot boy gritting his teeth that the Spurs won 4 championships in 10 years. It isn't about right or left. It's about money.

It always amazes me when the examples of hate and bias in the liberal media are pointed out - the usualk respone is "who cares?"

Now if Tebow was openly showing is love for Allah and Islam - there would not be a word uttered from the liberal media in protest

[Gunny]

It always amazes me when the examples of hate and bias in the liberal media are pointed out - the usualk respone is "who cares?"

Now if Tebow was openly showing is love for Allah and Islam - there would not be a word uttered from the liberal media in protest

You know me well enough to know what I think of those leftist hacks. Want to try again?

I don't disagree with you. However, pro sports is about money, not votes. And as a Christian, I think the people making an issue of it suck. However, why be what we're accused of? I don't care who doesn't believe. Sucks for them in the end.

[red states rule]

You know me well enough to know what I think of those leftist hacks. Want to try again?

I don't disagree with you. However, pro sports is about money, not votes. And as a Christian, I think the people making an issue of it suck. However, why be what we're accused of? I don't care who doesn't believe. Sucks for them in the end.

That is the purpose of thie thread to show how the man is being treated by the left for his religious beliefs

Of course, our resident expert on all topics syas that is not the case

[Gunny]

That is the purpose of thie thread to show how the man is being treated by the left for his religious beliefs

Of course, our resident expert on all topics syas that is not the case

His religious beliefs don't matter. He's not getting paid to preach the gospel. He gets paid to win football games. I don't know who our "resident expert" is, but the fact is, Tebow's religion should not be an issue and as I said ... if you don't like the answer to question ... don't ask.

[red states rule]

His religious beliefs don't matter. He's not getting paid to preach the gospel. He gets paid to win football games. I don't know who our "resident expert" is, but the fact is, Tebow's religion should not be an issue and as I said ... if you don't like the answer to question ... don't ask.

Go back and read my posts Gunny. Tebow is being attacked for his religious beliefs and not his performace on the football field

Ch even made the stupid claim the left did not get pissed off over Teboas Pr life Super Bowl ad he made with him mom

Shows how much he knows about this topic

[gabosaurus]

Dear RSR, it is obvious that you don't know squat about football. Did you see Tebow's stats for his last game

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Att/Comp Yds Avg TD Int NFL Rating

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Tebow
13/30
185
6.2
1
4
35.4

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God wouldn't claim Tebow as his son after that performance. ;)

[ConHog]

Go back and read my posts Gunny. Tebow is being attacked for his religious beliefs and not his performace on the football field

Ch even made the stupid claim the left did not get pissed off over Teboas Pr life Super Bowl ad he made with him mom

Shows how much he knows about this topic

You're hatred for me is getting ridiculous. And your lies are obvious.

I never said NO ONE was attacking him because of his religion. I said VERY few were attacking him b/c of his religeon, your VERY few examples bear that out.

MANY are also praising him for his religion. Go watch the ESPN miked with Tebow special, where they show him singing praises before a game, see him lifting team mates up, see him doing all the right things, and talk about what a wonderful guy he is.

I don't care WHAT the issue is, if it has two sides SOMEONE in the media is going to take the other side, it's what they are in business for. That you don't get that is your problem.

[gabosaurus]

You're hatred for me is getting ridiculous. And your lies are obvious.


I could have told you this. RSR goes after those he dislikes with a vengeance. His primary weapons include lies, exaggeration and ignoring statements he has no answer for. But as an endangered species (Ignoramus Foolerus), his kind are protected on our land.

Your primary mistake is assuming that there are two sides to every issue. RSR only knows one side -- his.

[red states rule]

You're hatred for me is getting ridiculous. And your lies are obvious.

I never said NO ONE was attacking him because of his religion. I said VERY few were attacking him b/c of his religeon, your VERY few examples bear that out.

MANY are also praising him for his religion. Go watch the ESPN miked with Tebow special, where they show him singing praises before a game, see him lifting team mates up, see him doing all the right things, and talk about what a wonderful guy he is.

I don't care WHAT the issue is, if it has two sides SOMEONE in the media is going to take the other side, it's what they are in business for. That you don't get that is your problem.

Now pointing out your posts is now "hate"?

Here is your firt post on this thread CH

For some reason you refuse to admit the left and liberla media hate this man for openly expressing his love for Jesus and God

Now you have Gabby as one of your supporters. that should tell you alot CH

[ConHog]

Now pointing out your posts is now "hate"?

Here is your firt post on this thread CH

For some reason you refuse to admit the left and liberla media hate this man for openly expressing his love for Jesus and God

Now you have Gabby as one of your supporters. that should tell you alot CH

No little RSR , it is YOU who refuse to admit that no one hates Tebow. Some make fun of his religeon, BIG fucking deal. I remember this one QB for Denver, some in the media made fun of his teeth. What did that mean? Oh, that people will make fun of anything, and in fact the number of people speaking negatively about Tebow's religion is relatively small.

Once again you try to make it about "sides" when this has nothing to do with politics, that is why two people like myself and Gab who disagree with each other politically are rolling laughing at you about this.

Oh, quick question out of curiosity, Gunny has said pretty much the same thing about Tebow and the media as I have in this thread, why aren't you calling him out?

Peace.

[Gunny]

Tim Tebow is a douchebag ...



















... because he's a Gator!

I couldn't care less about his religion.

I have no love for the Gators ... trust me. My stepfather went to FSU, and I lived in Miami for 10 years. I'd go for Florida A&I against the Gators. I certainly didn't wish him success. Can't deny he had it though.

[Gunny]

The U of Miami is the crummiest football program in college football. Shitty stadium, cheating players, thugs, and losers. But hey once long ago, they won some ball games. Second most disgusting loss I've ever watched my beloved Hogs take 1989 Cotton Bowl (maybe 1990?) 51-7 I couldn't believe it.

I'd love to get some Hurricane today.

You don't know what you are talking about.

The Hogs aren't the stellar perennial winners you'd like them to be. I remember before they ran from the SW because they couldn't hang, they tended to get whipped regularly.

I'm a Texan, dude. I'm also a UT fan.

Problem is here, I'm not going to involve myself in the rah rah sis boom bah argument, so you can drop the pom poms. I don't get all wrapped around the axle over football anymore. Free agency ruined the NFL and the BCS ruined college football. I watch/follow very little of either.

The topic is about the media's treatment of Tebow. We can keep it there.

[ConHog]

You don't know what you are talking about.

The Hogs aren't the stellar perennial winners you'd like them to be. I remember before they ran from the SW because they couldn't hang, they tended to get whipped regularly.

I'm a Texan, dude. I'm also a UT fan.

Problem is here, I'm not going to involve myself in the rah rah sis boom bah argument, so you can drop the pom poms. I don't get all wrapped around the axle over football anymore. Free agency ruined the NFL and the BCS ruined college football. I watch/follow very little of either.

The topic is about the media's treatment of Tebow. We can keep it there.

I was just giving you a hard time dude. lol no reason get all defensive.

Oh, and I'm rare for a Hog fan, I don't get the hate for Texas. I've never had anything but great experiences with the Longhorn fans I've encountered. Guess I'm not old enough to remember being Texas' bitch in the SWC , so I don't care.

[gabosaurus]

Can we get back to discussing the Rev. Tebow please?

My friend Katie told me last night that Tebow better say his prayers before the Steelers game. Because even God won't be able to help the Broncos avoid getting destroyed by the Steelers. And after the Steelers defense gets through with him, Tebow will be luck if he is able to get up three days later.
Yes, she is a Steelers fan. ;)

[jimnyc]

Can we get back to discussing the Rev. Tebow please?

My friend Katie told me last night that Tebow better say his prayers before the Steelers game. Because even God won't be able to help the Broncos avoid getting destroyed by the Steelers. And after the Steelers defense gets through with him, Tebow will be luck if he is able to get up three days later.
Yes, she is a Steelers fan. ;)

I love Tebow, for the classy guy that he is and for the tremendous athlete he is. I think if Denver gives him time and some training, he'll grow into a great QB.

With that said, I hope James Harrison breaks his fucking legs on the opening play next week!

[ConHog]

I love Tebow, for the classy guy that he is and for the tremendous athlete he is. I think if Denver gives him time and some training, he'll grow into a great QB.

With that said, I hope James Harrison breaks his fucking legs on the opening play next week!

I'd love Tebow if he was flipping burgers at McDonalds. That being said, I don't really care how he does on the field.

[gabosaurus]

Katie already has her eyes on the hated Baltimore Ravens, a team she despises with every ounce of her body. Her husband e-mailed me earlier this season that she might has set a new record for obscenities uttered during the last Steelers-Ravens game. :laugh:

[jimnyc]

Katie already has her eyes on the hated Baltimore Ravens, a team she despises with every ounce of her body. Her husband e-mailed me earlier this season that she might has set a new record for obscenities uttered during the last Steelers-Ravens game. :laugh:

Yes, I'm hoping for a 3rd go round with the Ravens myself, I hope it comes to that. They beat us 2x already this year but I'd love to see a rematch, in an important playoff game.

Then I would be hoping for Jo Flacco to have a heart attack while dropping back to make a pass. :poke:

[red states rule]

Now the Raven's Terrell Thuggs shows his professionalism




On Tuesday morning, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs appeared on ESPN’s “First Take,” where he unleashed a rant against Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

While Suggs‘ comments didn’t involve any references to Tebowing (or Treebowing (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bill-maher-tweets-pictures-of-himself-tebowing-treebowing/), for that matter), they did invoke mentions of Tebow’s faith in the Almighty as well as his ability to perform well on the football field.
Yardbarker.com has more (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/terrell_suggs_we_dont_need_god_on_our_sidelines/9101911):

The Baltimore Ravens clinched the 2nd seed in the AFC with their victory over the Cincinatti Bengals on Sunday afternoon. However, even during a bye week, and not yet knowing who his team will face in Baltimore in 2 weeks, Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs wasted little time taking shots at Denver Broncos quarterback, Tim Tebow. [...]

The Denver Broncos clinched the 4 seed by winning the AFC West championship despite falling at home to Kansas City because the Oakland Raiders lost their final game to San Diego.
“When we play Raven football, it’s scary,” Suggs said during the interview. Then, he went on to claim that his team doesn‘t necessarily need God’s assistance on the sidelines.

“With all due respect, we don’t pray on sidelines. I mean we do — we give it up to God just to be safe…we gonna go out there and win that game,” he said. “We don’t need our kicker to make a 62-yarder. I‘m just sayin’. I’m just sayin.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/we-dont-pray-on-sidelines-ravens-player-slams-tebows-need-for-god-on-the-football-field/

[ConHog]

Now the Raven's Terrell Thuggs shows his professionalism



If the comments in that interview make the man a thug, the NFL has serious problems.