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bullypulpit
10-25-2011, 08:19 AM
I work with intelligent, highly educated people for whom critical thinking skills are essential, It continually surprises me, however, just how many of them uncritically accept the portrayal of the Occupy Wall Street movement as a bunch of “dirty hippies”, spoiled children and freeloaders by FOX News and the, supposedly, librul media in this country.

The fact is that the OWS movement arose from the ashes of the Supreme Court’s decision in “Citizens United v. FEC”, which allows corporations to further distort the democratic process by contributing unlimited funds to produce ads for or against a given candidate (Brennan Center for Justice, 2010) (http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/citizens_united_v_fec/). And no matter what pretzel logic the majority decision used to justify the decision, money is not free speech and corporations are not persons.

As a result, the voices of the people are being drowned out by the flood of corporate money, much of it anonymous (Public Citizen, 2011 (http://www.citizen.org/documents/Citizens-United-20110113.pdf)), into the coffers of groups like American Crossroads, Crossroads GPS, Freedom Works, the Tea Party and other right wing PACs which, due to the huge influx of corporate money, have come to be known as “super PACs”.

Occupy Wall Street, in fact represents a wide variety of people, from various walks of life. Young and old, poor and middle class, black, white, and Hispanic, for and against President Obama…but they came together for a common cause (Boykin, 2011) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html). A cause people all over the country are responding to. They have come together at the epicenter of the near collapse of the US economy in 2008…Wall Street. They have come to seek redress from those who helped create the system which led to that near collapse…Our elected leaders and in particular, the Republican Party. They are simply doing that which is our right and responsibility, they are seeking to hold our elected officials accountable for their actions and seek redress for a system which serves and places the interests of corporations above those of the interests of “We, the people…”

References:

Boykin, K. (2011, October 19). Everything The Media Told You About Occupy Wall Street Is Wrong. Retrieved October 25, 2011, from The Hufington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html

Brennan Center for Justice. (2010, January 21). Citizens United v. FEC (Amicus Brief). Retrieved October 25, 2011, from Brennan Center for Justice: http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/citizens_united_v_fec/

Public Citizen. (2011). 12 Months After: The Effects of Citizens United on Elections and the Integrity of the Legislative Process. Public Citizen. http://www.citizen.org/documents/Citizens-United-20110113.pdf

fj1200
10-25-2011, 08:32 AM
You advertised facts; Will they be forthcoming?

ConHog
10-25-2011, 02:30 PM
I work with intelligent, highly educated people for whom critical thinking skills are essential, It continually surprises me, however, just how many of them uncritically accept the portrayal of the Occupy Wall Street movement as a bunch of “dirty hippies”, spoiled children and freeloaders by FOX News and the, supposedly, librul media in this country.

The fact is that the OWS movement arose from the ashes of the Supreme Court’s decision in “Citizens United v. FEC”, which allows corporations to further distort the democratic process by contributing unlimited funds to produce ads for or against a given candidate (Brennan Center for Justice, 2010) (http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/citizens_united_v_fec/). And no matter what pretzel logic the majority decision used to justify the decision, money is not free speech and corporations are not persons.

As a result, the voices of the people are being drowned out by the flood of corporate money, much of it anonymous (Public Citizen, 2011 (http://www.citizen.org/documents/Citizens-United-20110113.pdf)), into the coffers of groups like American Crossroads, Crossroads GPS, Freedom Works, the Tea Party and other right wing PACs which, due to the huge influx of corporate money, have come to be known as “super PACs”.

Occupy Wall Street, in fact represents a wide variety of people, from various walks of life. Young and old, poor and middle class, black, white, and Hispanic, for and against President Obama…but they came together for a common cause (Boykin, 2011) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html). A cause people all over the country are responding to. They have come together at the epicenter of the near collapse of the US economy in 2008…Wall Street. They have come to seek redress from those who helped create the system which led to that near collapse…Our elected leaders and in particular, the Republican Party. They are simply doing that which is our right and responsibility, they are seeking to hold our elected officials accountable for their actions and seek redress for a system which serves and places the interests of corporations above those of the interests of “We, the people…”

References:

Boykin, K. (2011, October 19). Everything The Media Told You About Occupy Wall Street Is Wrong. Retrieved October 25, 2011, from The Hufington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html

Brennan Center for Justice. (2010, January 21). Citizens United v. FEC (Amicus Brief). Retrieved October 25, 2011, from Brennan Center for Justice: http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/citizens_united_v_fec/

Public Citizen. (2011). 12 Months After: The Effects of Citizens United on Elections and the Integrity of the Legislative Process. Public Citizen. http://www.citizen.org/documents/Citizens-United-20110113.pdf



welcome to the board, be advised that we don't take kindly to dirty greedy hippies. :laugh2:

Kathianne
10-25-2011, 03:27 PM
welcome to the board, be advised that we don't take kindly to dirty greedy hippies. :laugh2:

He's been here way longer than you! :laugh2:

Welcome back, BP! Jim was mentioning you just a couple days or so ago.

ConHog
10-25-2011, 04:17 PM
He's been here way longer than you! :laugh2:

Welcome back, BP! Jim was mentioning you just a couple days or so ago.

I have never seen him post and didn't bother looking at his profile. So didn't know.

bullypulpit
10-25-2011, 04:32 PM
You advertised facts; Will they be forthcoming?

Follow the links in the citations old son!

bullypulpit
10-25-2011, 04:33 PM
He's been here way longer than you! :laugh2:

Welcome back, BP! Jim was mentioning you just a couple days or so ago.

Thank you dear lady. Been working on the BSN. Finish this spring.

bullypulpit
10-25-2011, 04:34 PM
I have never seen him post and didn't bother looking at his profile. So didn't know.

S'alright, especially since I'm not a "dirty, greedy hippie". ;)

Kathianne
10-25-2011, 06:12 PM
Thank you dear lady. Been working on the BSN. Finish this spring.


Congrats! That's a huge accomplishment!

fj1200
10-26-2011, 01:52 AM
Follow the links in the citations old son!

Much opinion, minimal facts.

red states rule
10-26-2011, 01:59 AM
Thank you dear lady. Been working on the BSN. Finish this spring.

Welcome back BP and congrats on your successful hard work!

Now allow me to ask you a few questions on this "movement". I have asked a couple of other supporters of the WSO's if they supported their demands (taken from their website) and both ducked the queston. How about you? Do you support these demands?




Demand one: Restoration of the living wage.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/




You stated they are out to hold our elected leaders accountable, but a survey of these people show they are mostly liberals and most will vote for Obama in 2012. Yet Obama has made the problems worse and has taken a massive amonut of money from Wall St

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html


We are told this is a grassroot movement, yet a liberal outfit is actually hiring some of people to protest. BTW, this outfir; "Working Families" is not paying the $20/hr the WSO's are demanding other companies pay their workers

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/occupy-wall-street-is-creating-jobs-astroturf-jobs/


Again welcome back BP