Lawrence Brewer Executed in TX [Archive] - Debate Policy

red states rule

09-22-2011, 03:30 AM

One of the bastards who dragged James Byrd to his death was assumed room temp last night. Funny how the left did not scream for mercy or compassion for this death row inmate

Even though they did try to use his crime for political gain in the 2000 election

Lawrence Russell Brewer, one of two men sentenced to die in the 1998 Jasper dragging death of James Byrd (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22James+Byrd%22) Jr., is dead.

His execution was set at 6 p.m. tonight. Officials pronounced him dead at 6:21 p.m.

Several of Byrd's family members, including two sisters and a niece, witnessed Brewer's execution.

Additionally, Brewer's mother, father and brother were in attendance.

The 44-year-old requested the following for his final meal, however, did not eat any of it, according to prison officials: two chicken fried steaks smothered in gravy with sliced onions; a triple meat bacon cheeseburger with fixings on the side; a cheese omelet with ground beef, tomatoes, onions, bell peppers and jalapenos; a large bowl of fried okra with ketchup; one pound of barbecue with half a loaf of white bread; three fajitas with fixings; a meat lovers pizza; three root beers; one pint of Blue Bell vanilla ice cream; and a slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts.

Read more: http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Lawrence-Russell-Brewer-executed-in-1998-dragging-2182092.php#ixzz1YgDNupKe

ConHog

09-22-2011, 01:39 PM

One of the bastards who dragged James Byrd to his death was assumed room temp last night. Funny how the left did not scream for mercy or compassion for this death row inmate

Even though they did try to use his crime for political gain in the 2000 election

Now seriously why do they let him order such a stupid last meal. That is just another example of wasting tax dollars.

Gaffer

09-22-2011, 02:00 PM

Now seriously why do they let him order such a stupid last meal. That is just another example of wasting tax dollars.

And why did they feel it was necessary to report what he had for a last meal?

ConHog

09-22-2011, 02:04 PM

And why did they feel it was necessary to report what he had for a last meal?

Reporters always ask. As if it's important. Da fuck is dead, who cares what he ate.

I ever get put on death row, I'm asking for my last meal to be Jessica Alba on the half shell.

logroller

09-22-2011, 02:55 PM

Great big gobs of everything with all the fixins.--- Were his last words, "I really gotta take a dump."

red states rule

09-23-2011, 02:28 AM

Meanwhile, the liberal media played the race card in their lame defense of cop killer Troy Davis who also assumed room temp the same day

The left kept scraming how a white guy would not have been sent to the death house over the same crime yet they seemed to have overlooked one of the killers of James Byrd finally has delt justice

logroller

10-01-2011, 04:29 AM

Gunny

10-01-2011, 01:22 PM

red states rule

10-01-2011, 01:26 PM

As we say hereabouts .... you kill us ... we'll kill you back.:laugh:

More like we simply enforce the laws of the state of Texas

Gunny

10-01-2011, 01:29 PM

More like we simply enforce the laws of the state of Texas

I thought that's what I said. ;)

red states rule

10-01-2011, 01:30 PM

I thought that's what I said. ;)

You phrased it like a guest on the Chris Matthews Show Gunny

I like my version better

Gunny

10-01-2011, 01:40 PM

You phrased it like a guest on the Chris Matthews Show Gunny

I like my version better

Nah. I phrased it like the redneck Texan I am.

red states rule

10-01-2011, 01:43 PM

Nah. I phrased it like the redneck Texan I am.

You reminded me opf the liberal talking heads wo have been attacking Gov Perry for "persiding" over all the excutions that have taken place since he took office.

and here I thought the Gov was to enforce the laws of the state. Silly me

Gunny

10-01-2011, 01:49 PM

You reminded me opf the liberal talking heads wo have been attacking Gov Perry for "persiding" over all the excutions that have taken place since he took office.

and here I thought the Gov was to enforce the laws of the state. Silly me

Methinks you read what I said wrong. I voted for Perry AND I support the death penalty AND the fact that we use and enforce it. The saying "you kill us and we'll kill you back" is humor around here.

red states rule

10-01-2011, 01:51 PM

Methinks you read what I said wrong. I voted for Perry AND I support the death penalty AND the fact that we use and enforce it. The saying "you kill us and we'll kill you back" is humor around here.

Then I stand corrected. If I heard what your said I am sure your point would have been correctly understood.

I dedicated a song to you Gunny -check it out

Gunny

10-01-2011, 02:05 PM

Then I stand corrected. If I heard what your said I am sure your point would have been correctly understood.

I dedicated a song to you Gunny -check it out

I'd still be hanging the f-ers if it was up to me. Saves a lot of time and money, and you can use the rope more than once.

red states rule

10-01-2011, 02:10 PM

I'd still be hanging the f-ers if it was up to me. Saves a lot of time and money, and you can use the rope more than once.

Rope is cheaper sir. You can get three or four hangings out one sturdy piece of rope

and it should be done in the town square

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Gunny

10-01-2011, 02:26 PM

Rope is cheaper sir. You can get three or four hangings out one sturdy piece of rope

and it should be done in the town square

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Zona

10-02-2011, 07:58 PM

I'd still be hanging the f-ers if it was up to me. Saves a lot of time and money, and you can use the rope more than once.

Didnt they used to do that here in the states before? I believe it was called lynching (or some damn thing). How did that turn out?

red states rule

10-03-2011, 03:43 AM

The funeral for the cop killer was turned into a pep rally for the media

Sent to death row 20 years ago as a convicted cop killer, Troy Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/) was celebrated as “martyr and foot soldier” Saturday by more than 1,000 people who packed the pews at his funeral and pledged to keep fighting the death penalty.
Family, activists and supporters who spent years trying to persuade judges and Georgia prison officials that Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/) was innocent were unable to prevent his execution Sept. 21. But the crowd that filled Savannah’s Jonesville Baptist Church (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/baptist/) on Saturday seemed less interested in pausing in remorse than showing a resolve to capitalize on the worldwide attention Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/)‘ case brought to capital punishment in the U.S.

Benjamin Todd Jealous (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/benjamin-jealous/), national president of the NAACP (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/national-association-for-the-advancement-of-colored-people/), brought the crowd to its feet in a chant of “I am Troy Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/)” — the slogan supporters used to paint Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/) as an everyman forced to face the executioner by a faulty justice system. Jealous (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/benjamin-jealous/) noted that Davis (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/troy-davis/) professed his innocence even in his final words.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/2/troy-davis-mourned-martyr-1000-ga/?page=1

Gunny

10-03-2011, 11:21 AM

Didnt they used to do that here in the states before? I believe it was called lynching (or some damn thing). How did that turn out?

Did I say anything about lynching? Brewer was tried, judged and executed legally. My comment was to method of execution, and makes no mention of your red herring.

Zona

10-03-2011, 11:59 AM

Did I say anything about lynching? Brewer was tried, judged and executed legally. My comment was to method of execution, and makes no mention of your red herring.

In the minds of the people who did lynchings, I wonder if they thought the person they were lynching were guilty and they felt justified killing them. Either way, public lynching or public "hanging" is barbaric and in THIS country, we dont do that. We are evolved and above that nonsense...righty gunny?

jimnyc

10-03-2011, 12:10 PM

Didnt they used to do that here in the states before? I believe it was called lynching (or some damn thing). How did that turn out?

Weren't most "lynchings" done without arrests, trials, judges and that thing of your peers? They should have hung this guy and have his head nearly pop off like Saddam's cousin in Iraq.

Gunny

10-03-2011, 03:53 PM

In the minds of the people who did lynchings, I wonder if they thought the person they were lynching were guilty and they felt justified killing them. Either way, public lynching or public "hanging" is barbaric and in THIS country, we dont do that. We are evolved and above that nonsense...righty gunny?

And perhaps the executioner at Huntsville who with an order of execution signed by the state was carrying out a legal execution? Nothing vigilante, illegal, nor lynch mob about that, nor my comment on using hanging as a means of execution.

Hanging is actually less barbaric than quite a few means of execution used by this country in the past and present, but usually way LESS barbaric than the crime committed by the person to be executed. "Evolved" is a subjective term and has nothing to do with this topic.

Zona

10-03-2011, 09:18 PM

And perhaps the executioner at Huntsville who with an order of execution signed by the state was carrying out a legal execution? Nothing vigilante, illegal, nor lynch mob about that, nor my comment on using hanging as a means of execution.

Hanging is actually less barbaric than quite a few means of execution used by this country in the past and present, but usually way LESS barbaric than the crime committed by the person to be executed. "Evolved" is a subjective term and has nothing to do with this topic.

"public "hanging" is barbaric"....still dont get it?

logroller

10-03-2011, 10:17 PM

"public "hanging" is barbaric"....still dont get it?

Does that make lethal injection refined?:laugh: I guess so.

You ever wonder if they sterilize the injection site? Wouldn't want them to get sick or anything; that'd be cruel and unusual...barbaric even.

I was wondering what would be the worst ways to die.

Burning at the stake would definitely suck; as would being eaten alive.

Being drawn and quartered looked pretty terrible on Braveheart.

IMO, stoning seems to be the most barbaric--kinda like the lynch mob, only slower, more painful and with more participants.

Crucifixion, of course. The Passion was gnarly (Mel Gibson should remake Conan the Barbarian.)

I've always thought the guillotine was a marvel of efficiency--way better than a rope...messy though.

A firing squad always seemed romantic to me. I've heard that only one person has a live round, the rest blanks, so that no one knows who the actual executioner was--any truth to that?

Being raped and bludgeoned to death probably takes the prize though-- public executions, as barbaric as they may be, seem to be appropriate in such cases; even if for no other purpose than to dissuade others from committing such crimes. Maybe it doesn't do that, I don't know--never though about doing it anyways-- but even if it doesn't, I think it gives the public a reminder that lady justice is not only objective and impartial--but vengeful too.

Gunny

10-04-2011, 08:50 AM

"public "hanging" is barbaric"....still dont get it?

Then why not pose your red herring to the person that advocated public hanging? Still don't get it?

However, "barbaric" is yet another subjective term. IMO, public executions would be a wash. For every criminal it made to think twice, there would be someone there for the spectacle and the party. If I believed it would actually tip in favor of deterrence, I'd be all for it.

Gunny

10-04-2011, 08:52 AM

Does that make lethal injection refined?:laugh: I guess so.

You ever wonder if they sterilize the injection site? Wouldn't want them to get sick or anything; that'd be cruel and unusual...barbaric even.

I was wondering what would be the worst ways to die.

Burning at the stake would definitely suck; as would being eaten alive.

Being drawn and quartered looked pretty terrible on Braveheart.

IMO, stoning seems to be the most barbaric--kinda like the lynch mob, only slower, more painful and with more participants.

Crucifixion, of course. The Passion was gnarly (Mel Gibson should remake Conan the Barbarian.)

I've always thought the guillotine was a marvel of efficiency--way better than a rope...messy though.

A firing squad always seemed romantic to me. I've heard that only one person has a live round, the rest blanks, so that no one knows who the actual executioner was--any truth to that?

Being raped and bludgeoned to death probably takes the prize though-- public executions, as barbaric as they may be, seem to be appropriate in such cases; even if for no other purpose than to dissuade others from committing such crimes. Maybe it doesn't do that, I don't know--never though about doing it anyways-- but even if it doesn't, I think it gives the public a reminder that lady justice is not only objective and impartial--but vengeful too.

Other way around. I blank, the rest live rounds. Serves the same purpose. You never know if you have the blank.

Zona

10-04-2011, 04:33 PM

Then why not pose your red herring to the person that advocated public hanging? Still don't get it?

However, "barbaric" is yet another subjective term. IMO, public executions would be a wash. For every criminal it made to think twice, there would be someone there for the spectacle and the party. If I believed it would actually tip in favor of deterrence, I'd be all for it.

I am all for executing people (capital punishment) who deserve to be killed, but for those who say it is good for a deterrence, it is not. If it is no doubt the person did it, kill them. Period. That is my thoughts on it, but again, capital punishment is not a deterrence.

Oh and again, in this country we do not hang people in town squares or stone them in public. That is what they do in "savage" countries. Not here in the United States. Its one of the things that makes us better than them. All who want that type solution should move to where it is practiced. WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT. Is that subjective?

ConHog

10-04-2011, 05:11 PM

Gunny

10-04-2011, 11:19 PM

I am all for executing people (capital punishment) who deserve to be killed, but for those who say it is good for a deterrence, it is not. If it is no doubt the person did it, kill them. Period. That is my thoughts on it, but again, capital punishment is not a deterrence.

Oh and again, in this country we do not hang people in town squares or stone them in public. That is what they do in "savage" countries. Not here in the United States. Its one of the things that makes us better than them. All who want that type solution should move to where it is practiced. WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT. Is that subjective?

No one can say whether or not it is a deterrence. Kind of hard to prove who didn't get killed because someone thought twice, even if subconsciously. That argument doesn't wash.

I think all who voted for a socialist POS like herr Obama should move to Europe myself, but you're still here. Yet another subjective argument from you. Let's try sticking to the topic. This guy killed a cop. He deserved death. You take another's life in the commission of a crime, you forfeit your own, IMO. And I believe hanging is the most economical way to go about executing those who have been sentenced to death.

Gunny

10-04-2011, 11:21 PM

I am against the death penalty , at least in it's current form. IF we could figure out a way to make it less expensive to society to go through the appeals process in order to make sure a person received every consideration before the death penalty was meted out, I would be okay with it under certain circumstances.

Otherwise , life in prison, and I mean real life, no chance of parole EVER, would suffice in most cases.

Different topic, but I agree. I am for the death penalty. I am not for the way its used currently in the US. However, in this case, cut n dried. If the issue is cut n dried, I completely support it.

ConHog

10-04-2011, 11:26 PM

Different topic, but I agree. I am for the death penalty. I am not for the way its used currently in the US. However, in this case, cut n dried. If the issue is cut n dried, I completely support it.

In this particular case, I 100% agree. There is NO doubt the asshole did it. Light him up.

red states rule

10-05-2011, 03:40 AM

In this particular case, I 100% agree. There is NO doubt the asshole did it. Light him up.

and under the current system, the convicted killer does life on Death Row

ConHog

10-05-2011, 05:00 PM

and under the current system, the convicted killer does life on Death Row

Which I don't agree with. If there is going to be a death penalty it should be streamlined.

Gunny

10-06-2011, 07:49 AM

Which I don't agree with. If there is going to be a death penalty it should be streamlined.

Problem is, there is no "death penalty" per se. Individual states do or do not have a death penalty. The criteria in each state may vary so long as they meet the basic Federal criteria; which, is what includes the appeals process. It also varies from court to court within the state. I have observed that in Texas, if you are tried in one of the two-three major liberal havens, you are more likely to get life. If you get away from Dallas, Houston and/or Austin, you're probably going to swing for a capital crime. Point being, there isn't even consistency within states depending on whether you are tried in a rural or major population center. Of course. voting seems to be along those same lines as well.

There are just too many variables to how it is used. The fed wants to control everything; yet, it does not control what it should while meddling in things it should not.