Twin defeats spark Democrat fears

[Little-Acorn]

The real foundation of the panic starting to grip the Democrat party?

"The propaganda isn't working any more!"

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63466.html

Twin defeats spark Democratic fears

by JONATHAN MARTIN & BEN SMITH & JAKE SHERMAN
9/14/11 4:57 AM EDT

HOWARD BEACH, N.Y.—The Democratic Party’s rare loss of a congressional seat in its urban heartland Tuesday, accompanied by a blowout defeat in a Nevada special election, marked the latest in a string of demoralizing setbacks that threatened to deepen the party’s crisis of confidence and raise concerns about President Barack Obama’s political fortunes.

In New York, Republican Bob Turner soundly defeated Democrat David Weprin in a House contest that — in the view of party leaders, at least — featured an anemic urban machine, distracted labor unions and disloyal voters. In Nevada, a consequential state for the president’s reelection strategy, Democrats suffered a runaway loss rooted in a weak showing in Reno’s Washoe County, a key bellwether.

Even before the polls closed, the recriminations — something short of panic, and considerably more than mere grumbling — had begun. On a high-level campaign conference call Tuesday afternoon, Democratic donors and strategists commiserated over their disappointment in Obama. A source on the call described the mood as “awful.”

“People feel betrayed, disappointed, furious, disgusted, hopeless,” said the source.

Less expansive but equally telling were the remarks of House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, who in a conversation with reporters Tuesday morning said bluntly that Obama would take some blame for the two special election losses.

“I think every election reflects on the person in charge, but do I think it is an overall statement on the president alone? No,” said Hoyer. “Do I think it will be interpreted as being a statement on Obama? That’s probably correct.”

A senior Hill Democratic aide was more direct in attempting to explain the New York loss: “The approval ratings for the guy at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue cratered.”

A Turner consultant, Steve Goldberg, validated that assessment: “It was all Obama — not even a thought of anything else.”

[MtnBiker]

Will there be any spin here at Depate Policy on the NY-9 loss. I hope so, an extra chuckle today will be nice.

[beanerboy]

bottom line: all politics are local. If I were a democrat in Weiner's district, I would have been so disgusted by him that I would have stayed home and not voted. Do republicans think they will win that district in 2012? Do they think they will win NY? Really?

[MtnBiker]

There is no chance the the GOP will get his seat, even after redistricting, the neighborhood is solid deep blue.


In a word, FAIL! :laugh2:

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/f/face_fail-14153.jpg

[jimnyc]

bottom line: all politics are local. If I were a democrat in Weiner's district, I would have been so disgusted by him that I would have stayed home and not voted. Do republicans think they will win that district in 2012? Do they think they will win NY? Really?

ALL dem politicians here in NY are scum. The majority of their voters are unemployed and welfare recipients.

[beanerboy]

ALL dem politicians here in NY are scum. The majority of their voters are unemployed and welfare recipients.

everybody's gotta be someplace. unemployed and welfare recipients need a party too! ;)

[DragonStryk72]

bottom line: all politics are local. If I were a democrat in Weiner's district, I would have been so disgusted by him that I would have stayed home and not voted. Do republicans think they will win that district in 2012? Do they think they will win NY? Really?

As a New Yorker, you'd be amazed what we're willing to do out of sheer spite. The Dems aren't listening to the people at this point, and so they are blowing through whatever trust is left. Yes, we can vote for people other than Dems up here

[jimnyc]

everybody's gotta be someplace. unemployed and welfare recipients need a party too! ;)

Then those losers retire and move in with the beaners down in mexishitco.

[beanerboy]

As a New Yorker, you'd be amazed what we're willing to do out of sheer spite. The Dems aren't listening to the people at this point, and so they are blowing through whatever trust is left. Yes, we can vote for people other than Dems up here

interesting times... interesting times indeed.

[red states rule]

bottom line: all politics are local. If I were a democrat in Weiner's district, I would have been so disgusted by him that I would have stayed home and not voted. Do republicans think they will win that district in 2012? Do they think they will win NY? Really?

Bottom line, it is Obama's economy. As the economy goes so does his re-election chances

Have you checked out RCP lately Virgil? :laugh2:

[red states rule]

interesting times... interesting times indeed.

Virgil, Debbie Schultz is almost as lame as your are in her spin over this loss. It almost sounds like you are writing the excuses for here




Republicans won two House seats in a special election last night. One, in Nevada, had been a relatively safe district, and Republican Mark Amodei cruised to victory over Democrat Kate Marshall as expected. Also as predicted, Republican Bob Turner won a six-point victory over Democrat David Weprin in NY-09, a Congressional district in the heart of Democratic stronghold New York City. The margin of victory exactly matched polling leads for Turner from both Siena and Democratic pollster PPP in the final days before the vote.

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t a surprise. The NY-09 seat has been in Democratic hands since, well, Warren Harding was President. So what did the leader of the Democratic Party have to say about the loss (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904265504576569653599489370.html)?

Democratic party leaders insisted the loss wasn’t a harbinger of things to come. “It’s a very difficult district for Democrats,” said Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, noting its Democratic margins there tend to be the second lowest of all the districts in New York City.

Well, in her defense, she still hasn’t gotten past that tough loss when Andrew Peterson edged David O’Connell for the seat … in 1922 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York%27s_9th_congressional_district). The same seat was held by Geraldine Ferraro, Chuck Schumer, and Anthony Weiner … when he had his pants on. Going back to 1996, the lowest percentage a Democrat got in a general election in this seat was 60.8%, which was in 2010 while the Tea Party took 63 seats from Democrats that ended up being a lot more “difficult” than this one. It was such a difficult district that Weiner ran unopposed in 2006 and virtually unopposed in 2008.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/14/ridiculous-ny-09-spin-its-a-very-difficult-district-for-democrats/

[fj1200]

Or more importantly...


Washoe County, the Northern Nevada county that contains Reno, is the No. 1 bellwether in a top Western swing state. It was crucial to Harry Reid’s 2010 reelection, to Barack Obama’s 2008 election and to the countless governors, senators and presidents who have competed in the Silver State before them. And on Tuesday, Republican Mark Amodei won it by 10 points…

It is almost universally true that as goes Washoe, so goes Nevada – and as goes Nevada, so goes the nation. The state has voted for the winner of every presidential race but one since 1912, giving it a stronger claim to bellwether status than Missouri.
http://74.84.198.233/headlines/archives/2011/09/14/forget-ny-9-the-nevada-race-was-the-true-bellwether-for-democrats/

[red states rule]

interesting times... interesting times indeed.


More like BAD times for the manchild President Virgil







Two out of three CBS local affiliate political reporters featured on Thursday's Early Show bluntly stated that President Obama faces "major uphill battle" in recapturing key states for the 2012 election. Anchor Chris Wragge noted the "all-time low" approval rating for the President, while an Ohio journalist highlighted how a Democratic strategist thought Obama was "feeling more Carter than Clinton."

Wragge turned to David Crabtree of WRAL-TV in Raleigh, North Carolina; Jim Heath of CBS affiliate WBNS in Columbus, Ohio; and Sam Brock from WTVR in Richmond, Virginia for their takes on the President's recent stops in their states following his jobs bill speech to Congress earlier in September. Crabtree reported on the positive reaction from those who attended Mr. Obama's speech in North Carolina, but then outlined that the Democrat faces several challenges in the months ahead:

DAVID CRABTREE, POLITICAL REPORTER, WRAL-TV: ...[T]he President has a major uphill battle in this state, trying to convince voters to convince their Republican members of Congress to vote for this jobs bill. Right now, the lines appear to be drawn, with the Republicans saying they are not going to do that. So, while it was received well in this campaign here stop in North Carolina, there's still a lot more work to be done for the President to recapture this state. He did win four years ago by 14,000 votes. But his disapproval rating in North Carolina today is at least at 53%. He's got a lot more work to be done.

The CBS anchor then turned to Heath and asked, "What are the independent voters telling you about the President's visit there?" Heath detailed a more stark picture of the situation on the ground for the chief executive in the Buckeye State, even making a slight reference to the "hope and change" slogan from the 2008 campaign:

HEATH: Chris, the first thing I noticed: the last time the President was in Ohio- he was at the Ohio State University- 30,000 people were there- this week, 3,000. So, the mood, everything seems to be a little bit different, as we head into 2012.

I spoke to some unemployed folks right after his speech, and one young lady, in particular...said that she had strongly supported the President in 2008, still liked him as a person, but she made the comment, after three years, you can't promise people jobs and not deliver. So, she's about to give up hope.

The economy, as always in the swing state of Ohio, is going to be key, Chris. And I had one Democratic strategist tell me a few weeks ago that the third year of the Obama administration is feeling more Carter than Clinton. If that holds throughout 2012, it'd be very difficult for any incumbent, regardless of party, to win swing state Ohio.


Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2011/09/15/cbs-local-political-reporters-obama-faces-major-uphill-battle#ixzz1Y71GRvFz

[TheShadowKNows]

The real foundation of the panic starting to grip the Democrat party?

"The propaganda isn't working any more!"

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63466.html

Twin defeats spark Democratic fears

by JONATHAN MARTIN & BEN SMITH & JAKE SHERMAN
9/14/11 4:57 AM EDT

HOWARD BEACH, N.Y.—The Democratic Party’s rare loss of a congressional seat in its urban heartland Tuesday, accompanied by a blowout defeat in a Nevada special election, marked the latest in a string of demoralizing setbacks that threatened to deepen the party’s crisis of confidence and raise concerns about President Barack Obama’s political fortunes.

In New York, Republican Bob Turner soundly defeated Democrat David Weprin in a House contest that — in the view of party leaders, at least — featured an anemic urban machine, distracted labor unions and disloyal voters. In Nevada, a consequential state for the president’s reelection strategy, Democrats suffered a runaway loss rooted in a weak showing in Reno’s Washoe County, a key bellwether.

Even before the polls closed, the recriminations — something short of panic, and considerably more than mere grumbling — had begun. On a high-level campaign conference call Tuesday afternoon, Democratic donors and strategists commiserated over their disappointment in Obama. A source on the call described the mood as “awful.”

“People feel betrayed, disappointed, furious, disgusted, hopeless,” said the source.

Less expansive but equally telling were the remarks of House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, who in a conversation with reporters Tuesday morning said bluntly that Obama would take some blame for the two special election losses.

“I think every election reflects on the person in charge, but do I think it is an overall statement on the president alone? No,” said Hoyer. “Do I think it will be interpreted as being a statement on Obama? That’s probably correct.”

A senior Hill Democratic aide was more direct in attempting to explain the New York loss: “The approval ratings for the guy at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue cratered.”

A Turner consultant, Steve Goldberg, validated that assessment: “It was all Obama — not even a thought of anything else.”

You don't have to look any further than the implausible Spin the d's are putting out on the recent Nev. and N.Y. losses. A blind man can see the desperation laced throughout the purely partisian, and grossly inane rhetoric spewing from the leftists "water carriers".
While nothing is "Iced" in politics, and anything can happen in 14 months, I believe at this juncture bammy and cohorts have turned the corner to an irreversible and meteoric downslide in voter acceptance. As Bammy, being a socialist Ideolog of manic proportions, cannot nor will not move to the center as wild Bill did in his second term. Hence the enivitable self destruct.
With all that said. I firmy believe that the 'R' Ticket of Bachman and Rubio would propagate a landslide victory. Ostensibly for the obvious reasons of garnering a huge chunk of the Womens vote from the top, and likewise the Latino vote from the bottom. Leaving the d's to frantically scramble within the ranks of their leftists splinter groups, who believe that he hasn't gone far enough to the left. Resultingly having been reported as early as January of this year to be disenchanted with bammy, and thereby "leaning" to staying home on election day.
We can only Pray.

[red states rule]

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