Employers Added No Net Jobs in August [Archive] - Debate Policy

red states rule

09-02-2011, 07:38 AM

Breaking news - no article yet

But another month of Obamnomics has passed and the nations continues to slide further south

red states rule

09-02-2011, 07:44 AM

OK, who/what will the Obama and the liberal media blame for this months lousy job numbers?

Bush? R's? the weather? the earthquake?

Employers added no net workers last month and the unemployment rate was unchanged, a sign that many were nervous the U.S. economy is at risk of slipping into another recession.
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The Labor Department says total payrolls were unchanged in August, the weakest report in almost a year. It's the first time since February 1945 that the government has reported a net job change of zero. The unemployment rate stayed at 9.1 percent.

A strike by 45,000 Verizon workers lowered the job totals. Those workers are back on the job.
Job gains in June and July were revised lower, to show 57,000 fewer jobs added. The downward revisions were all in government jobs. The average work week also declined and hourly earnings fell by 3 cents to $23.09.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=14434360

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truthmatters

09-02-2011, 10:46 AM

Maybe it has something to do with the tea party swinging arround the debt ceiling like their brand new axe and screaming for the country to default on its debts.

When the house is acting like madmen bent on distroying the economy CEOs get a little reluctant to hire.

fj1200

09-02-2011, 10:54 AM

Maybe it has something to do with the tea party swinging arround the debt ceiling like their brand new axe and screaming for the country to default on its debts.

When the house is acting like madmen bent on distroying the economy CEOs get a little reluctant to hire.

That must be it because sound financial management is the death knell of business expansion and job growth everywhere. :rolleyes:

Gunny

09-02-2011, 10:54 AM

Maybe it has something to do with the tea party swinging arround the debt ceiling like their brand new axe and screaming for the country to default on its debts.

When the house is acting like madmen bent on distroying the economy CEOs get a little reluctant to hire.

You're just a f-ing dumb here as you are anywhere else. Some leftwingnut leave the sheeple pen open and let you out, or what?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 10:59 AM

Its not good for consumer confidence when the the house refuses to do their job and compromise with the rest of the people elected representatives to get the peoples business done.

You see they were not elected to be little tyrants and force the other elected officials into going aginst their own constituents wishes.

The founders did NOT have in mind for our government the insane way the tea party fools acted.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 11:04 AM

Its not good for consumer confidence when the the house refuses to do their job and compromise with the rest of the people elected representatives to get the peoples business done.

You see they were not elected to be little tyrants and force the other elected officials into going aginst their own constituents wishes.

The founders did NOT have in mind for our government the insane way the tea party fools acted.

So what is your excuse fir the decline of the economy when Dems had total control?

Obama and Dems have pissed thru $4 trillion dollars more then they took in and all we have to show for it is 9.1% unemployment and a credit downgrade

Of course all you are doing to trying to find someone to blame beside the one who is responsible - Obama

fj1200

09-02-2011, 11:06 AM

Its not good for consumer confidence when the the house refuses to do their job and compromise with the rest of the people elected representatives to get the peoples business done.

You see they were not elected to be little tyrants and force the other elected officials into going aginst their own constituents wishes.

The founders did NOT have in mind for our government the insane way the tea party fools acted.

Since when is their job compromise? They were elected to represent their constituents and nowhere is compromise in the constitution. In fact the whole concept of checks and balances is contrary to compromise IMO and requires each branch to act in it's capacity.

And I'm sure the founders had in mind a national debt that is closing in on 100% of GDP. :rolleyes: Do you have any other talking points to run down?

Gunny

09-02-2011, 11:08 AM

Its not good for consumer confidence when the the house refuses to do their job and compromise with the rest of the people elected representatives to get the peoples business done.

You see they were not elected to be little tyrants and force the other elected officials into going aginst their own constituents wishes.

The founders did NOT have in mind for our government the insane way the tea party fools acted.

You're just this dumb. Compromising is how we got where we are. The only tyranny I've seen in congress was from 2008-2010. Which is a BIG reason we are where we are.

The founders would laugh at YOU. And or be outraged you presumed to superimpose your loopy rhetoric onto their ideals.

KartRacerBoy

09-02-2011, 11:09 AM

That must be it because sound financial management is the death knell of business expansion and job growth everywhere. :rolleyes:

Yeah. Threatening to default on the nation's bills was a sound financial management policy. Standard & Poors really thought so. :laugh:

fj1200

09-02-2011, 11:12 AM

Yeah. Threatening to default on the nation's bills was a sound financial management policy. Standard & Poors really thought so. :laugh:

Who was threatening to default? Did you notice that they downgrade anyway?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 11:13 AM

The funny thing is the minute the republicans took office if they won this next election they would stimulate the economy in some way. They would call it something else but they would do it.

They would because they would want to win the NEXT election and without stim we will hover in this trough for a long time.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 11:15 AM

Yeah. Threatening to default on the nation's bills was a sound financial management policy. Standard & Poors really thought so. :laugh:

and you say I post talking points

It is afcat the US NEVER would have defaulted. Taxes would still be collected and DC would take in more then enough to make the interest payments, SS and vet checks.

The only way the nation would have defaulted is if Obama told the Treasury not to make the payments

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 11:17 AM

You guys screwed the pooch and are now blaming Obama for it.

fj1200

09-02-2011, 11:19 AM

The funny thing is the minute the republicans took office if they won this next election they would stimulate the economy in some way. They would call it something else but they would do it.

They would because they would want to win the NEXT election and without stim we will hover in this trough for a long time.

Of course they would, it's called rolling back regulations (BOcare included), making the Bush cuts permanent, and (hopefully) cutting the corporate income tax. Most importantly is providing certainty of fiscal policy so business can make investments.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 11:20 AM

You guys screwed the pooch and are now blaming Obama for it.

More like Obama has screwed the nation and libs are blaming anyone but him for it

You know Obama knows he is in trouble when be blames ATM machines for the shity unemployment number

fj1200

09-02-2011, 11:21 AM

You guys screwed the pooch and are now blaming Obama for it.

I assume you mean the downturn which happened after the Dems took office in 1/07 and then that we are blaming BO for being BO; because when your policies suck, they suck.

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 11:21 AM

hahahahahahahahahahaha

It seems to KEEP the CEOs from hiring.

Nothing speaks like failure.

fj1200

09-02-2011, 11:23 AM

Nothing speaks like failure.

True, but I thought you like BO?

Gunny

09-02-2011, 11:27 AM

hahahahahahahahahahaha

It seems to KEEP the CEOs from hiring.

Nothing speaks like failure.

So sayeth the Democrat who brought us the likes of our current President and our latest former Congress. Dumbass.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 11:27 AM

So lets see what the left are selling now

Bush had an unemployment rate of 6%, a budget deficit of $500 billion, and gas was $1.90/gal and we are headed for another Great Depression

Obama now has a 9.1% unemployment rate, annual deficits of $1,5 trillion, and gas at $3.50 gal and we are on the road to recovery

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 11:41 AM

The right sabotoged the economy by making a phoney fight about the deficit.

The economy was doing better and better every month so they staged a fight over the deficit after promising the American peopel they would concentrate on jobs so they could get elected.

Then they announced publicaly that their main job was to make Obama a one term president, NOT JOBS but politics a usual oinstead of the American peoples needs.

Then they tore the country a new one and cost people jobs so they could crush the recovery.

Now they blame Obama for what they did.

Like always

red states rule

09-02-2011, 11:44 AM

The right sabotoged the economy by making a phoney fight about the deficit.

The economy was doing better and better every month so they staged a fight over the deficit after promising the American peopel they would concentrate on jobs so they could get elected.

Then they announced publicaly that their main job was to make Obama a one term president, NOT JOBS but politics a usual oinstead of the American peoples needs.

Then they tore the country a new one and cost people jobs so they could crush the recovery.

Now they blame Obama for what they did.

Like always

Please explain how the deficit increasing by a factor of 4 is phoney

How is the economy doing better? Nearly ever indicator is going in the wrong direction

Obama got his stimulus, his various jobs plans, and the economy (along with his approval numbers) are heading south

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 11:48 AM

manufacturing numbers were up, Ceos were planning on hiring, stores were seeing profits.

it was starting to look up and the republicans had to do something fast to stop the economy.

They did it to fuck up the recovery.

It stalled things but guess what?

They cant stall it forever andif they keep pulling stunts like the debt ceiling game the people wont like it.

The people already blamed the right for the whole debt ceiling thing.

The next stunt will hurt the right and not Obama

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:15 PM

manufacturing numbers were up, Ceos were planning on hiring, stores were seeing profits.

it was starting to look up and the republicans had to do something fast to stop the economy.

They did it to fuck up the recovery.

It stalled things but guess what?

They cant stall it forever andif they keep pulling stunts like the debt ceiling game the people wont like it.

The people already blamed the right for the whole debt ceiling thing.

The next stunt will hurt the right and not Obama

The only thing fucking up the "recovery" is Obama's anti business policies and Obamcare

Why should companies hire when they do not know what their costs will be down the road

Don't forget the MASSIVE tax increases in Obamacare and the next round of tax increases set to hit the Obama economy on 1/1/12 when the Bush tax cuts expire

Just a couple of reasons why people are being hired

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 12:20 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/business/2848775-420/percent-companies-expect-workers-ceos.html

CEOs expect to hire more as sales grow



More top corporate executives expect to hire workers and boost spending on their companies over the next six months.
A survey released Tuesday by Business Roundtable, an association of CEOs of big U.S. companies, shows 45 percent of executives say they expect their companies to add more workers.
That’s the highest percentage who have said they planned to add jobs since the survey began in late 2002. Meanwhile, only 18 percent said they expected their work forces to shrink, one of the lowest readings over the past five years, and 38 percent predict no change.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:22 PM

You guys screwed the pooch and are now blaming Obama for it.

Now you are reduced to repeating your crap

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 12:22 PM

http://ecmweb.com/ezone/manufacturing_technology_orders_up_June_2010/

Manufacturing Technology Orders up 103.9% from June 2010Aug 30, 2011 3:25 PM
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June U.S. manufacturing technology orders totaled $459.39 million according to the [URL="http://www.amtonline.org/"]Association for Manufacturing Technology (AMT) (http://www.debatepolicy.com/#relatedarticle), McLean, Va., and the American Machine Tool Distributors’ Association (AMTDA) (http://www.amtda.org/), Rockville, Md. This total, as reported by companies participating in the U.S. Manufacturing Technology Orders (USMTO) program (https://www.usmto.com/), was up 15.3% from May and up 91.7% when compared with the total of $239.68 million reported for June 2010. With a year-to-date total of $2,453.78 million, 2011 is up 103.9% compared with 2010.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:23 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/business/2848775-420/percent-companies-expect-workers-ceos.html

CEOs expect to hire more as sales grow



More top corporate executives expect to hire workers and boost spending on their companies over the next six months.
A survey released Tuesday by Business Roundtable, an association of CEOs of big U.S. companies, shows 45 percent of executives say they expect their companies to add more workers.
That’s the highest percentage who have said they planned to add jobs since the survey began in late 2002. Meanwhile, only 18 percent said they expected their work forces to shrink, one of the lowest readings over the past five years, and 38 percent predict no change.

We have been hearing about that "recovery" now for 2 years

Sicne every jobs number has been revised lower I wonder how they can revise a ZERO number any lower?

Gunny

09-02-2011, 12:24 PM

The right sabotoged the economy by making a phoney fight about the deficit.

The economy was doing better and better every month so they staged a fight over the deficit after promising the American peopel they would concentrate on jobs so they could get elected.

Then they announced publicaly that their main job was to make Obama a one term president, NOT JOBS but politics a usual oinstead of the American peoples needs.

Then they tore the country a new one and cost people jobs so they could crush the recovery.

Now they blame Obama for what they did.

Like always

You're full of shit as ever. You've already f-d up 2 boards I'm aware of with your blatant lies. You won't have that opportunity here. You'll get shot coming out of the gate. Clue, liar.

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 12:25 PM

That was not me saying they planned to hire that was CEOs saying it

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:44 PM

Here is why companies are NOT hiring - and it is not the fault of the R's

Every year, we negotiate a renewal to our health coverage. This year, our provider demanded a 28% increase in premiums—for a lesser plan. This is in part a tax increase that the federal government has co-opted insurance providers to collect. We had never faced an increase anywhere near this large; in each of the last two years, the increase was under 10%.

To offset tax increases and steepening rises in health-insurance premiums, my company needs sustainably higher profits and sales—something unlikely in this “summer of recovery.” We can’t pass the additional costs onto our customers, because the market is too tight and we’d lose sales. Only governments can raise prices repeatedly and pretend there will be no consequences.
And even if the economic outlook were more encouraging, increasing revenues is always uncertain and expensive. As much as I might want to hire new salespeople, engineers and marketing staff in an effort to grow, I would be increasing my company’s vulnerability to government decisions to raise taxes, to policies that make health insurance more expensive, and to the difficulties of this economic environment.

A life in business is filled with uncertainties, but I can be quite sure that every time I hire someone my obligations to the government go up. From where I sit, the government’s message is unmistakable: Creating a new job carries a punishing price.

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2010/08/09/evil-employer-why-im-not-hiring/

Gaffer

09-02-2011, 12:46 PM

That was not me saying they planned to hire that was CEOs saying it

45% of CEO's say they "plan" to hire in the next six months. That's providing the economy stops going south. 55% do not "plan" to hire because they are unsure of the economy. It is you saying it as your trying to put a positive spin on a negative report. The glass is almost half full.

Words are wind. - George Martin

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:48 PM

45% of CEO's say they "plan" to hire in the next six months. That's providing the economy stops going south. 55% do not "plan" to hire because they are unsure of the economy. It is you saying it as your trying to put a positive spin on a negative report. The glass is almost half full.

Words are wind. - George Martin

Obama is doing things that have seldom been done

Not since 1945 has the economy created ZERO jobs

Oh well, Obama will save the economy with his "plan" he has made us wait a month for

Or so says the liberal media

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 12:51 PM

when will the right ever keep their election promise to help create jobs?

They have the house, its where bills start.

Create some damned jobs like you promised

Gaffer

09-02-2011, 12:55 PM

when will the right ever keep their election promise to help create jobs?

They have the house, its where bills start.

Create some damned jobs like you promised

We will have to wait until we get the senate as well. That's where the things always get shelved and voted down. Having a competent president will help too.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 12:56 PM

when will the right ever keep their election promise to help create jobs?

They have the house, its where bills start.

Create some damned jobs like you promised

Here is what it takes for a real LEADER to create jobs in the private sector. Libs will rant how now it is the R's position to do so - while Obama wants to increase taxes and spending on more crap like shrimps on a treadmil

Here is a business owner on Obama and his policies

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truthmatters

09-02-2011, 12:56 PM

The house is where things start.

they have done NOTHING to creat jobs.

Why would voters give them more power after they IGNORED their promise to the voters?

fj1200

09-02-2011, 12:58 PM

when will the right ever keep their election promise to help create jobs?

They have the house, its where bills start.

Create some damned jobs like you promised

It's where revenue bills start. Seriously, the constitution is online, you can read it. Do you honestly think that BO will sign a tax cut bill and the repeal of HC reform? Because those will encourage job creation.

fj1200

09-02-2011, 01:00 PM

Talking points.

Do you like... you know, just copy and... you know, paste stuff.

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:01 PM

How does less money in the economy sprun jobs?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:03 PM

Do you like... you know, just copy and... you know, paste stuff.

There are facts in this world and they are worth factoring into your decision making.

Only partisan hacks avoid facts.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:03 PM

The house is where things start.

they have done NOTHING to creat jobs.

Why would voters give them more power after they IGNORED their promise to the voters?

Speaking of ignored promises made to the voters

Unemployment would not go above 8% if the stimulus passed

GITMO would be closed

Troops would be out of Iraq and Afghanistan

No tax increases on people making less than $250,000/ yr

Income taxes repealed on seniors making less than $75,000/yr

Al bill will be available online 72 hours before passing in Congress

No pork in the stimulus bill

I could go on TM but it would be a very long post

No go ahead and blame the R's for all these broken Obama promises

fj1200

09-02-2011, 01:05 PM

There are facts in this world and they are worth factoring into your decision making.

Only partisan hacks avoid facts.

As soon as you list one, I'll be happy to consider it.

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:06 PM

The public cares about jobs.

You can rehash all kinds of old crap arguments to avoid the subject of jobs if you like but it wont win you an election in 2012.

You want to know how to win the next election?

CREATE SOME JOBS LIKE YOU PROMISED

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:07 PM

As soon as you list one, I'll be happy to consider it.

So you are claiming that CEOs are liars and that manufacturing data is lies?

fj1200

09-02-2011, 01:07 PM

create some jobs like you promised

HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THEY DO THAT WHEN BLOCKED AT EVERY TURN????????????

One wonders.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:09 PM

The public cares about jobs.

You can rehash all kinds of old crap arguments to avoid the subject of jobs if you like but it wont win you an election in 2012.

You want to know how to win the next election?

CREATE SOME JOBS LIKE YOU PROMISED

If you realy want jobs to be created in the private sector here are a few things R's want

1) lift drilling ban in the Gulf

2) open up drilling in AWAR and other areas Dems have banned drilling

3) repeal Obamacare

4) across the board income tax rate cuts

5) take the corporate tax rate to ZERO

6) Cut capital gaines rate to ZERO

7) Take spending back to the year 2000 level

fj1200

09-02-2011, 01:10 PM

So you are claiming that CEOs are liars and that manufacturing data is lies?

No. But neither does it prove anything. That less than half will hire is proof of what again? A roaring recovery?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:11 PM

http://businessroundtable.org/news-center/business-roundtable-releases-second-quarter-2011-ceo-economic-outlook/

Washington – The CEOs of America’s largest companies anticipate higher sales and plan to increase capital expenditures and hire more workers over the next six months, according to the results of Business Roundtable’s (http://businessroundtable.org/) second quarter 2011 CEO Economic Outlook Survey. “Fully 87% of our CEOs anticipate higher sales,” said Ivan G. Seidenberg (http://businessroundtable.org/about-us/members/139), Chairman of Business Roundtable and Chairman and CEO of Verizon Communications. “As a result, more than half of our CEOs plan to increase both capital spending and U.S. hiring. This continues a positive trend for our companies’ activity heading into the second half of 2011.”

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:14 PM

http://businessroundtable.org/news-center/business-roundtable-releases-second-quarter-2011-ceo-economic-outlook/

Washington – The CEOs of America’s largest companies anticipate higher sales and plan to increase capital expenditures and hire more workers over the next six months, according to the results of Business Roundtable’s (http://businessroundtable.org/) second quarter 2011 CEO Economic Outlook Survey. “Fully 87% of our CEOs anticipate higher sales,” said Ivan G. Seidenberg (http://businessroundtable.org/about-us/members/139), Chairman of Business Roundtable and Chairman and CEO of Verizon Communications. “As a result, more than half of our CEOs plan to increase both capital spending and U.S. hiring. This continues a positive trend for our companies’ activity heading into the second half of 2011.”

Is this from the same sources that always tell us bad economic news is "unexpected" or "surprising"?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:16 PM

About Ushttp://www.debatepolicy.com/resizer_cache/e50e72952c96c38a97bfa005e135ae32e0cf717d.jpgBusine ss Roundtable (BRT) is an association of chief executive officers of leading U.S. companies with nearly $6 trillion in annual revenues and more than 13 million employees. BRT member companies comprise nearly a third of the total value of the U.S. stock market and invest more than $114 billion annually in research and development – nearly half of all private U.S. R&D spending. Our companies pay more than $179 billion in dividends to shareholders and give nearly $9 billion a year in combined charitable contributions.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:19 PM

About Us

http://www.debatepolicy.com/resizer_cache/e50e72952c96c38a97bfa005e135ae32e0cf717d.jpgBusine ss Roundtable (BRT) is an association of chief executive officers of leading U.S. companies with nearly $6 trillion in annual revenues and more than 13 million employees. BRT member companies comprise nearly a third of the total value of the U.S. stock market and invest more than $114 billion annually in research and development – nearly half of all private U.S. R&D spending. Our companies pay more than $179 billion in dividends to shareholders and give nearly $9 billion a year in combined charitable contributions.

and the point is? (and I am not talking about the one on top of your head)

Why should anyone hire if they do not know what their business costs will be a year or two down the road?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:21 PM

So you are going to deny that this survey is valid?

You are going to pretend it is not ligit for what reason?

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:26 PM

So you are going to deny that this survey is valid?

You are going to pretend it is not ligit for what reason?

There are also surveys they show employers are not hiring due to Obamacare and they will stop offering coverage to their workers if Obamcare stands

There are surveys that show the pending tax increases are preventing economic growth

I know you want it both ways TM, but if you want private sector jobs I told you a few things Obama could do that would do just that - but you do not seem interested in that topic

Only making excuses and spining for Obama's failures

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:41 PM

Go get them.

I bet they are not as well respected as this industry sstandard poll is?

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:43 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Roundtable

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red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:45 PM

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LOL!!

No you are doing what another poster did to "prove" Obama had a shitload of economic experience - you are using wikipedia as a source

You better stick with the blame game and playing the race card

Even the OMB says unemployment will be over 9% in November 2012 which means Obama is toast

Gaffer

09-02-2011, 01:46 PM

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Do you get paid by the post? or by the words?

red states rule

09-02-2011, 01:48 PM

Do you get paid by the post? or by the words?

If she was paid by the FACT she would be on welfare

truthmatters

09-02-2011, 01:52 PM

http://ecmweb.com/ezone/manufacturing_technology_orders_up_June_2010/

Manufacturing Technology Orders up 103.9% from June 2010

Aug 30, 2011 3:25 PM
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June U.S. manufacturing technology orders totaled $459.39 million according to the Association for Manufacturing Technology (AMT) (http://www.amtonline.org/), McLean, Va., and the American Machine Tool Distributors’ Association (AMTDA) (http://www.amtda.org/), Rockville, Md. This total, as reported by companies participating in the U.S. Manufacturing Technology Orders (USMTO) program (https://www.usmto.com/), was up 15.3% from May and up 91.7% when compared with the total of $239.68 million reported for June 2010. With a year-to-date total of $2,453.78 million, 2011 is up 103.9% compared with 2010.

Man how I wish all Americans would see this as good news.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 02:01 PM

Man how I wish all Americans would see this as good news.

So the number wnet from horrible to terrible and you are giddy?

Damn you are so undemanding when libs are in charge

red states rule

09-02-2011, 02:19 PM

Does anyone recall this TIME cover showing Obama as FDR?

http://www.newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/frontpage-200/thumbnail_photos/2011/September/obama-fdr.jpg

Does anyone think this guy is like FDR?

I think he is more like Bozo the Clown

fj1200

09-02-2011, 02:54 PM

Man how I wish all Americans would see this as good news.

It is good news. It just doesn't mean that we are having a robust recovery and that BO espouses the best policies.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 02:58 PM

It is good news. It just doesn't mean that we are having a robust recovery and that BO espouses the best policies.

Obama policies can be called the cream of the crap

or the crap of the cream

Your choice

Trigg

09-02-2011, 03:09 PM

when will the right ever keep their election promise to help create jobs?

They have the house, its where bills start.

Create some damned jobs like you promised

Once again I'm reduced to typing slowly so you can get it.

The congress DOES NOT CREATE JOBS.

The tea party ran on getting the deficit under controll, which is why they fought to BALLANCE THE BUDGET. You know, that thing EVERY household in America has to do in order to not have creditors calling?????

No where did they say they were going to create jobs. That was your man bambam, the guy that got elected with a majority in the House and Senate. He LOST that majority because his stimulus FAILED to keep unemployment under 8%.

He was in power 2 years before he lost to the tea party republicans.

Please pull your head out of your ass.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 03:12 PM

Once again I'm reduced to typing slowly so you can get it.

The congress DOES NOT CREATE JOBS.

The tea party ran on getting the deficit under controll, which is why they fought to BALLANCE THE BUDGET. You know, that thing EVERY household in America has to do in order to not have creditors calling?????

No where did they say they were going to create jobs. That was your man bambam, the guy that got elected with a majority in the House and Senate. He LOST that majority because his stimulus FAILED to keep unemployment under 8%.

He was in power 2 years before he lost to the tea party republicans.

Please pull your head out of your ass.

Obama and the Dems had unchecked power for 2 years

they passed their "stimulus". Obamacare, Cash for Clunkers, jobs bills, extended unemployment benefits several times, they have a record number of people on food stamps

and people are trying to blame R's for the condition of the economy?

Trigg

09-02-2011, 03:17 PM

http://businessroundtable.org/news-center/business-roundtable-releases-second-quarter-2011-ceo-economic-outlook/

Washington – The CEOs of America’s largest companies anticipate higher sales and plan to increase capital expenditures and hire more workers over the next six months, according to the results of Business Roundtable’s (http://businessroundtable.org/) second quarter 2011 CEO Economic Outlook Survey. “Fully 87% of our CEOs anticipate higher sales,” said Ivan G. Seidenberg (http://businessroundtable.org/about-us/members/139), Chairman of Business Roundtable and Chairman and CEO of Verizon Communications. “As a result, more than half of our CEOs plan to increase both capital spending and U.S. hiring. This continues a positive trend for our companies’ activity heading into the second half of 2011.”

I seriously don't even know where you're going with this. The CEO's planned to create jobs. They anticipated higher sales.

The higher sales never happened, so they had to change their plans. You do see how this works don't you???

That is why they are CEO's they change their plans when things don't work out the way they want.

I plan to retire early with millions in the bank, if that doesn't happen I will have to change my plans. DUH

Trigg

09-02-2011, 03:19 PM

Obama and the Dems had uncheked power for 2 years

they passed their "stimulus". Obamacare, Cash for Clunkers, jobs bills, extended unemployment benefits several times, they have a record number of people on food stamps

and people are trying to blame R's for the condition of the economy?

truthmaters really doesn't count as a whole person, since there's nothing upstairs.

J.T

09-02-2011, 03:19 PM

That must be it because sound financial management is the death knell of business expansion and job growth everywhere. :rolleyes:

Threatening to not pay your debts to score partisan points is hardly sound financial management.

More like Obama has screwed the nation and libs are blaming anyone but him for it

You know Obama knows he is in trouble when be blames ATM machines for the shity unemployment number

You're both idiots. Both parties are guilty in this.

The right sabotoged the economy by making a phoney fight about the deficit.
The economy was seriously fucked before that. that was just another nail in the coffin.

Republicans want the economy tank has as hard and deep as possible so they can use it as propaganda in the enxt presidential election.

55% do not "plan" to hire because they are unsure of the economy.

I'm sure threatening default boosted heir confidence in the economy

If you realy want jobs to be created in the private sector here are a few things R's want

1) lift drilling ban in the Gulf
No. Not until you prove you can drill safely. Obama was increasing drilling in the gulf before BP proved they can't drill safely or be trusted to follow regulations- and revealed the revolving door and just how the MMS had been weakened by the capitalists.

2) open up drilling in AWAR and other areas Dems have banned drilling

I assume you mean ANWAR. We can do that when we nationalize the oil supply. requiring all oil drilled in the U.S. to first be offered to the American market at a prime rate. So long as the oil drilled goes straight to the international market, drilling in ANWAR doesn't really solve anything.

3) repeal Obamacare

What's your plan to address the matters it sought to address

4) across the board income tax rate cuts

No. We've the lowest effective rates in decades and look where it's gotten us.

5) take the corporate tax rate to ZERO

:lol:

6) Cut capital gaines rate to ZERO:lol:

7) Take spending back to the year 2000 level
How? Are we going to dismantle DHS and pull immediately out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Yemen?

red states rule

09-02-2011, 03:33 PM

truthmaters really doesn't count as a whole person, since there's nothing upstairs.

That is to her benefit. Mind readers charge her half price

fj1200

09-02-2011, 03:41 PM

Threatening to not pay your debts to score partisan points is hardly sound financial management.

Then I wonder why BO did it because I don't recall any Republicans saying that we would default.

red states rule

09-02-2011, 03:45 PM

Then I wonder why BO did it because I don't recall any Republicans saying that we would default.

As I posted, thye US would NOT default. Taxes would stil be collected and the US would have more then enough to pay the interest payments, SS, the militray, and vet benefits

This was a lie the Dems and liberal media put out so stupid morons like JT would swallow it hook, line, and sinker

Or is JT's case hook, line, and sucker

KarlMarx

09-02-2011, 07:25 PM

Maybe it has something to do with the tea party swinging arround the debt ceiling like their brand new axe and screaming for the country to default on its debts.

When the house is acting like madmen bent on distroying the economy CEOs get a little reluctant to hire.

It has nothing to do with the Tea Party and everything to do with the irresponsible idiots that brought this whole fiasco about. Mr Obama and the Democrats, with no doubt. The entire debt ceiling debate would not even be one if Mr Obama and his fellow Democrats would face up to one thing. ObamaCare is a huge mistake and a costly one. I just hope and pray that common sense prevails this next election and enough people vote the Democrats and Obama out of office.

Gaffer

09-02-2011, 08:05 PM

It has nothing to do with the Tea Party and everything to do with the irresponsible idiots that brought this whole fiasco about. Mr Obama and the Democrats, with no doubt. The entire debt ceiling debate would not even be one if Mr Obama and his fellow Democrats would face up to one thing. ObamaCare is a huge mistake and a costly one. I just hope and pray that common sense prevails this next election and enough people vote the Democrats and Obama out of office.

The dark ones gone for sure. It's the rest of the democraps that need to be ousted.

KartRacerBoy

09-02-2011, 10:09 PM

Please pull your head out of your ass.

Just to put it up your ass? Bad trade, IMO.

KartRacerBoy

09-02-2011, 10:13 PM

Then I wonder why BO did it because I don't recall any Republicans saying that we would default.

When did Eric Cantor become a Democrat? He didn't say "let's default." He just said, "Let's not pay our bills."

Close enough.

J.T

09-02-2011, 10:44 PM

The dark ones gone for sure. It's the rest of the democraps that need to be ousted.
'The dark one'? You do realize how that sounds, right?

Gaffer

09-02-2011, 10:49 PM

'The dark one'? You do realize how that sounds, right?

Of course I do. I also refer to him as the dark lord. Also the dark won. His skin color means nothing to me, his character is dark as night. But libs get all bent when I call him the dark one. I'm sure you can relate.

Kathianne

09-02-2011, 10:59 PM

The house is where things start.

they have done NOTHING to creat jobs.

Why would voters give them more power after they IGNORED their promise to the voters?

Only tax bills start in the house, everything else either house may do regarding proposing bills.

Kathianne

09-02-2011, 11:03 PM

Do you like... you know, just copy and... you know, paste stuff.

Oh no, she often doesn't read what she posts, then makes us stuff that she thinks will fly. That's why she's known most places as truthdoesn'tmatter.

She's the most partisan liar ever. She loves sending anyone that questions her looking for 'facts', like those she posts. LOL!

red states rule

09-03-2011, 03:46 AM

Just to put it up your ass? Bad trade, IMO.

Given the direction of the Obama economy, the civility of the left will only get better. The more the economy and Obama's approval numbers decrease, the level of civility from libs like Kart will increase

red states rule

09-03-2011, 03:49 AM

When did Eric Cantor become a Democrat? He didn't say "let's default." He just said, "Let's not pay our bills."

Close enough.

Do you have a link for that hot shot?

I find it telling the libs here have yet to comment how it was NOT possible for the US to default given taxes would still be collected thus no default

The ONLY way interest payments, SS and military checks would not go out is if the WH ordered them not to go out

fj1200

09-03-2011, 05:24 AM

When did Eric Cantor become a Democrat? He didn't say "let's default." He just said, "Let's not pay our bills."

Close enough.

Did he now? Most of that seemed to come from the WH like how default was on the table and we wouldn't/couldn't pay SS when revenues would have covered both and more. It reminded me of the GM bailout where the only options coming from them was bailout or liquidation; those were clearly not the only possibilities but the media bought that message easily enough.

red states rule

09-03-2011, 05:27 AM

Did he now? Most of that seemed to come from the WH like how default was on the table and we wouldn't/couldn't pay SS when revenues would have covered both and more. It reminded me of the GM bailout where the only options coming from them was bailout or liquidation; those were clearly not the only possibilities but the media bought that message easily enough.

Maybe Kart will shut us up by psoting a link to that comment from Cantor

Meanwhile, as the economy continues to slide under the water, Obama and the liberal media continue to makes excuses and now are downplaying that great "jobs" speech we have been told about for about a month

red states rule

09-03-2011, 06:34 AM

That was not me saying they planned to hire that was CEOs saying it

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/110831 redtape RGB20110901125758.jpg

red states rule

09-03-2011, 06:48 AM

The public cares about jobs.

You can rehash all kinds of old crap arguments to avoid the subject of jobs if you like but it wont win you an election in 2012.

You want to know how to win the next election?

CREATE SOME JOBS LIKE YOU PROMISED

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv082411dAPR20110825054537.jpg

fj1200

09-03-2011, 03:06 PM

Oh no, she often doesn't read what she posts...

Is that her one-day-post-fest and she'll be back next September?

Missileman

09-03-2011, 03:22 PM

When did Eric Cantor become a Democrat? He didn't say "let's default." He just said, "Let's not pay our bills."

Close enough.

You're a smidge confused. Maybe you can post a link to Cantor saying anything even remotely like it. And before you try to throw some bullshit up in response, a call to NOT raise the debt celing doesn't equal "Let's not pay our bills".

red states rule

09-04-2011, 04:03 AM

You're a smidge confused. Maybe you can post a link to Cantor saying anything even remotely like it. And before you try to throw some bullshit up in response, a call to NOT raise the debt celing doesn't equal "Let's not pay our bills".

It has been a couple of days we have been waiting for KRB to enlighten us with that link

I wonder what is taking so long? Perhaps there is no link? Perhaps Cantor did not say what KRB claimes he said?