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abso
08-31-2011, 07:59 AM
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Gaffer
08-31-2011, 12:27 PM
Garbage.

More lets assimilate into their culture bullshit.

ConHog
08-31-2011, 12:42 PM
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Good job pointing out that the Arabs were well educated and invented many things before Islam matured enough to choke out any scientific discovery that may have happened. Now can you point to any significant Arab discoveries or inventions from say 1000 AD - present? No ? None? Neither can I.

abso
08-31-2011, 01:15 PM
Good job pointing out that the Arabs were well educated and invented many things before Islam matured enough to choke out any scientific discovery that may have happened. Now can you point to any significant Arab discoveries or inventions from say 1000 AD - present? No ? None? Neither can I.

well, you got everything backward, Islam was matured back then, but right now i dont see real islamic countries with real islamic values like the values that those people had back then.

ConHog
08-31-2011, 01:21 PM
well, you got everything backward, Islam was matured back then, but right now i dont see real islamic countries with real islamic values like the values that those people had back then.

What the fuck ever. Here let me ask you this. Can you name one one University in an Arabic country that is world renowned for its science department? Math department?

abso
08-31-2011, 01:38 PM
What the fuck ever. Here let me ask you this. Can you name one one University in an Arabic country that is world renowned for its science department? Math department?

does the video speak about science in arab countries right now, or centuries ago !!!, there is no technological advance right now, the video speaks about history, dont you get it ??? :rolleyes:


the video speaks about the contributions that the muslims did to the scientific process in Europe dark age, which were considered as Islamic Golden Age.

in the Golden Age, muslims read from the greeks and romans and developed those sciences and made many breakthroughs, and then europe read from the muslims and developed them, that's life, none can be great forever.

ConHog
08-31-2011, 01:43 PM
does the video speak about science in arab countries right now, or centuries ago !!!, there is no technological advance right now, the video speaks about history, dont you get it ??? :rolleyes:


the video speaks about the contributions that the muslims did to the scientific process in Europe dark age, which were considered as Islamic Golden Age.


So then you are saying what? That you acknowledge that Islam today is worthless, but hey 1500 years ago you guys were smarter than the people who lived in the LEAST educated period of European history?


Face it, the Middle East entered THEIR dark ages as soon as that pedophile rapist's fake ass religion began taking root.

J.T
08-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Does the OP have a point? Will there be a thread about the Enlightenment? And one about the Chinese? And one about Deistic thinkers like the American FF? And one about atheists in science? And one about the Dogon?'


Seriously, what's your point?

abso
08-31-2011, 02:12 PM
Does the OP have a point? Will there be a thread about the Enlightenment? And one about the Chinese? And one about Deistic thinkers like the American FF? And one about atheists in science? And one about the Dogon?'


Seriously, what's your point?

my point ???

maybe you should read the name of the forum in which i posted this thread in, then you should also read something about the age i am talking about.

i am not talking about islamic scientists, i am talking about an era in hisory and the scientific advancement in it, that's all, but people tend to turn the subject around and talk about religion.

and btw, in the Islamic Golden age, scientists were not only muslims, they were jews and christians and muslims, all living in peace under the islamic rule and together they developed what the greeks and romans left.

ConHog
08-31-2011, 02:16 PM
my point ???

maybe you should read the name of the forum in which i posted this thread in, then you should also read something about the age i am talking about.

i am not talking about islamic scientists, i am talking about an era in hisory and the scientific advancement in it, that's all, but people tend to turn the subject around and talk about religion.

and btw, in the Islamic Golden age, scientists were not only muslims, they were jews and christians and muslims, all living in peace under the islamic rule and together they developed what the greeks and romans left.


First of all bullshit.

Second of all, so you're contending that if a man spent the first 5 years of his marriage being a good husband then suddenly started cheating on and beating his wife up, he could then write a little story about the first five years of his marriage pretending that that proves he's a good husband?

Oh and PS despite what your religion teaches , a good husband does NOT beat his wife.

abso
09-05-2011, 05:18 PM
First of all bullshit.

Second of all, so you're contending that if a man spent the first 5 years of his marriage being a good husband then suddenly started cheating on and beating his wife up, he could then write a little story about the first five years of his marriage pretending that that proves he's a good husband?

Oh and PS despite what your religion teaches , a good husband does NOT beat his wife.

again an ignorant reply, you are talking about the religion but you are forgetting that i am not talking about religion.

you are doing what we call collective punishment, just because you see some bad muslims doesn't mean that all muslims are bad, in your story you are talking about one man, his life is connected, his past and future, but Islam is not a man, its just a faith, millions follow it, so you can't condemn the past muslims for what the present muslims does, and you can't condemn the future muslims for what the present muslims doesn, you can't even condemn all the present muslims for what other present muslims does, as an example, you can't hold me accountable for what OBL did, who said i agree with him, who said i agree with terrorism !!!!

and who said that i agree with beating wifes !!!, who said i agree with anything you despise, did you see me doing anything like that ???, did i say that i do anything like that ???, then for what are you being aggressive towards me more than a stupid thought in your sick mind that all muslims are bad ????

anyway, about the sick idea you have that all muslims beat their wifes, in my family they don't, thats what i can say, i am not responsible for all the mislims in the world and i don't care what they do, i don't have to justify the actions of everyone who shares something with me, i am not responsible for what my brother does just because i live in the same house with him, and i am not responsible for what my friends in university does just because they share the same class with me, and i am not responsible for what egyptians does just because they share the same nationality with me, and certainly i am noooooooooooooooot responsible for what any stupid muslim does just because they share the same faith.

if that so then you should also be accountable for every action that a sick american does because you are an american too :salute:.


stop acting like that, its just stupid, this is not a man being good then beating his wife, this article is talking about a completely different era with completely different people, you can't hold them accountable for what terrorists do today, Islam is not a person who does things and then we punish him for it, Islam is aa faith and an idea, and you can't punish faithes nor ideas, because anyone from any faith can do right or wrong, you just punish the person, not his faith !!!

ConHog
09-05-2011, 05:22 PM
again an ignorant reply, you are talking about the religion but you are forgetting that i am not talking about religion.

you are doing what we call collective punishment, just because you see some bad muslims doesn't mean that all muslims are bad, in your story you are talking about one man, his life is connected, his past and future, but Islam is not a man, its just a faith, millions follow it, so you can't condemn the past muslims for what the present muslims does, and you can't condemn the future muslims for what the present muslims doesn, you can't even condemn all the present muslims for what other present muslims does, as an example, you can't hold me accountable for what OBL did, who said i agree with him, who said i agree with terrorism !!!!

and who said that i agree with beating wifes !!!, who said i agree with anything you despise, did you see me doing anything like that ???, did i say that i do anything like that ???, then for what are you being aggressive towards me more than a stupid thought in your sick mind that all muslims are bad ????

anyway, about the sick idea you have that all muslims beat their wifes, in my family they don't, thats what i can say, i am not responsible for all the mislims in the world and i don't care what they do, i don't have to justify the actions of everyone who shares something with me, i am not responsible for what my brother does just because i live in the same house with him, and i am not responsible for what my friends in university does just because they share the same class with me, and i am not responsible for what egyptians does just because they share the same nationality with me, and certainly i am noooooooooooooooot responsible for what any stupid muslim does just because they share the same faith.

if that so then you should also be accountable for every action that a sick american does because you are an american too :salute:.


stop acting like that, its just stupid, this is not a man being good then beating his wife, this article is talking about a completely different era with completely different people, you can't hold them accountable for what terrorists do today, Islam is not a person who does things and then we punish him for it, Islam is aa faith and an idea, and you can't punish faithes nor ideas, because anyone from any faith can do right or wrong, you just punish the person, not his faith !!!


Another pathetic attempt to separate Islamic culture from Islam itself? No sir, it can't be done. They are the same thing. Your culture is one of degradation, and violence. Nothing good as ever came from anything Islamic. NOTHING. Your culture/religion has added NOTHING positive to the history of mankind.

jimnyc
09-05-2011, 05:23 PM
Islamacrapheads are teaching their little cockroach friends how to fly airplanes without ever having to take off or land.

Hey, Abso - what is the percentage of women claiming to have been abused in Egypt where you are? How many of the men even admit to it? I'd walk to another shitty country if I were you. Or strap on some special belts to protect you from the abusers and take you right to the special women muhammahahaheachmed has promised.

Salami Lakem Shmeekhem, my brother!

abso
09-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Islamacrapheads are teaching their little cockroach friends how to fly airplanes without ever having to take off or land.

Hey, Abso - what is the percentage of women claiming to have been abused in Egypt where you are? How many of the men even admit to it? I'd walk to another shitty country if I were you. Or strap on some special belts to protect you from the abusers and take you right to the special women muhammahahaheachmed has promised.

Salami Lakem Shmeekhem, my brother!

didn't we have an agreement, or did you forget about it my friend ? :salute:

ConHog
09-05-2011, 05:44 PM
didn't we have an agreement, or did you forget about it my friend ? :salute:

The only agreement I ever had with you shit heads is that if you stop cowardly killing innocent Americans I would stop pointing my M4 your way.

jimnyc
09-05-2011, 05:46 PM
didn't we have an agreement, or did you forget about it my friend ? :salute:

Ok, I will refrain from tossing ammunition directly at you. But sometimes I have to speak out about Islam and it's links to terrorism.

J.T
09-05-2011, 05:52 PM
Ok, I will refrain from tossing ammunition directly at you. But sometimes I have to speak out about Islam and it's links to terrorism.
Do you ever speak out against Judaism and it's link to Zionism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine following the importation of foreign persons?

When have you ever criticized the Break the Bones strategy?

Do you ever speak out against Americanism or any other form of Nationalism and its links to countless wars of aggression?

Do you ever speak out against Capitalism and its links to slavery, exploitation, war, murder, and terrorism in Guatamala, Saipan, VietNam, and everywhere else the Capitalists have seen the potential for profit?

Or are you just a one-trick pony who's been taught to hate one group of people?

ConHog
09-05-2011, 05:54 PM
Do you ever speak out against Judaism and it's link to Zionism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine following the importation of foreign persons?

When have you ever criticized the Break the Bones strategy?

Do you ever speak out against Americanism or any other form of Nationalism and its links to countless wars of aggression?

Do you ever speak out against Capitalism and its links to slavery, exploitation, war, murder, and terrorism in Guatamala, Saipan, VietNam, and everywhere else the Capitalists have seen the potential for profit?

Or are you just a one-trick pony who's been taught to hate one group of people?

As opposed to an asshole like you, who hates EVERYONE whether they have reason to or not?

jimnyc
09-05-2011, 06:03 PM
Do you ever speak out against Judaism and it's link to Zionism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine following the importation of foreign persons?

When have you ever criticized the Break the Bones strategy?

Do you ever speak out against Americanism or any other form of Nationalism and its links to countless wars of aggression?

Do you ever speak out against Capitalism and its links to slavery, exploitation, war, murder, and terrorism in Guatamala, Saipan, VietNam, and everywhere else the Capitalists have seen the potential for profit?

Or are you just a one-trick pony who's been taught to hate one group of people?

Yes, I did. But last I looked the thread and opening post were about muslims. You start another thread about your hatred and maybe someday I'll stop by and annoy you too. :poke:

J.T
09-05-2011, 06:06 PM
Yes, I did.

Really? You've spoken out against capitalism and the Zionist occupation of Palestine?

Where was this?

abso
09-05-2011, 06:09 PM
Another pathetic attempt to separate Islamic culture from Islam itself? No sir, it can't be done. They are the same thing. Your culture is one of degradation, and violence. Nothing good as ever came from anything Islamic. NOTHING. Your culture/religion has added NOTHING positive to the history of mankind.

okay, if you say so :D

abso
09-05-2011, 06:11 PM
Ok, I will refrain from tossing ammunition directly at you. But sometimes I have to speak out about Islam and it's links to terrorism.

let me ask you directly, do you think that I am connected to terrorism ?

abso
09-05-2011, 06:14 PM
The only agreement I ever had with you shit heads is that if you stop cowardly killing innocent Americans I would stop pointing my M4 your way.

first, i never had any agreement with you.
second, i am not OBL or Zawahri.
third, you can never point your M4 in my way.

;)

jimnyc
09-05-2011, 06:17 PM
Really? You've spoken out against capitalism and the Zionist occupation of Palestine?

Where was this?

In one of our top secret forums. You need to be a member here for at least 10 years to gain entry. But I did, honestly! (it's still not what this thread is about).

jimnyc
09-05-2011, 06:18 PM
let me ask you directly, do you think that I am connected to terrorism ?

No, and I've always said that even when I enjoy fucking around with you. But you could do a little more criticizing of the never ending terrorist attacks by muslims and less America and jew hating... just sayin'

ConHog
09-05-2011, 06:37 PM
Really? You've spoken out against capitalism and the Zionist occupation of Palestine?

Where was this?

If you will point me to a map that lists Palestine as a nation and then link me to any occupation by the Zionists I would be much obliged.

abso
09-05-2011, 06:59 PM
No, and I've always said that even when I enjoy fucking around with you. But you could do a little more criticizing of the never ending terrorist attacks by muslims and less America and jew hating... just sayin'

that's good, what i am trying to say my friend, is that there are millions of muslims around the world, just like me, who have nothing to do with terrorism.

i agree with you, muslims has issues, some of them beats their wifes, which is something i completely condemn but there is also others who don't do that.

what i am trying to tell you that it's not the religion, its the culture, do you see american muslims beating their wifes ???, the culture in the arabian region is wrong in some way when it comes to family, but so is the culture in USA, none has a perfect culture, i never claimed that.

and you know that i condemn terrorism, i hate it, and i hate anyone who practice it, be it a muslim or from any other faith.


there was once a story about 3 blind people, someone gathered them and let them in a room in which he has put an elephant, he asked them to go in and examine it and then come out to descripe what they think about the thing in the room, they entered, and each one examined it in his way, then when they got out the man asked them about the thing, the first one has examined the elephant legs, so he descriped the thing as four strong pillars, the second one has touched the tail to he said that the thing is like a snake, the third one examined the trunk, so he said its like a vaccum cleaner, the three disagreed and started fighting over who is right and who is wrong, they didn't know that they were all right in their discreptions, because they each one only believed what's in his mind and didn't try to listen to the others, they didn't try to gather the three opinions to construct the complete picture.

sorry about the stupid story, but what happens between us is like it in some way, each one of us sees his point of view, the one he was raised to believe in, the one that his culture wanted him to believe, and thats why i am here in the first place, to try to reach out to the other side, to understand others and work with them, certainly not everything i have been told is right, but also not everything you have been told or read is right, none is completely right or completely wrong, thats my point.


sorry for the long reply, wish you a nice day my friend.

ConHog
09-05-2011, 07:02 PM
that's good, what i am trying to say my friend, is that there are millions of muslims around the world, just like me, who have nothing to do with terrorism.

i agree with you, muslims has issues, some of them beats their wifes, which is something i completely condemn but there is also others who don't do that.

what i am trying to tell you that it's not the religion, its the culture, do you see american muslims beating their wifes ???, the culture in the arabian region is wrong in some way when it comes to family, but so is the culture in USA, none has a perfect culture, i never claimed that.

and you know that i condemn terrorism, i hate it, and i hate anyone who practice it, be it a muslim or from any other faith.


there was once a story about 3 blind people, someone gathered them and let them in a room in which he has put an elephant, he asked them to go in and examine it and then come out to descripe what they think about the thing in the room, they entered, and each one examined it in his way, then when they got out the man asked them about the thing, the first one has examined the elephant legs, so he descriped the thing as four strong pillars, the second one has touched the tail to he said that the thing is like a snake, the third one examined the trunk, so he said its like a vaccum cleaner, the three disagreed and started fighting over who is right and who is wrong, they didn't know that they were all right in their discreptions, because they each one only believed what's in his mind and didn't try to listen to the others, they didn't try to gather the three opinions to construct the complete picture.

sorry about the stupid story, but what happens between us is like it in some way, each one of us sees his point of view, the one he was raised to believe in, the one that his culture wanted him to believe, and thats why i am here in the first place, to try to reach out to the other side, to understand others and work with them, certainly not everything i have been told is right, but also not everything you have been told or read is right, none is completely right or completely wrong, thats my point.


sorry for the long reply, wish you a nice day my friend.

Islamic culture and Islamic religion are the same thing.

abso
09-05-2011, 07:05 PM
No, and I've always said that even when I enjoy fucking around with you. But you could do a little more criticizing of the never ending terrorist attacks by muslims and less America and jew hating... just sayin'

sorry, error, duplicate reply.

abso
09-05-2011, 07:09 PM
Islamic culture and Islamic religion are the same thing.

okay, if you say so, whatever makes you happy ;)

ConHog
09-05-2011, 07:17 PM
okay, if you say so, whatever makes you happy ;)

IOW you can't refute what I have said.

abso
09-05-2011, 07:26 PM
IOW you can't refute what I have said.

maybe ;)