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Kathianne
08-13-2011, 10:40 AM
they will be facing very rough seas. Given the past couple years, Obama isn't up to it. Of those running, who's the most like a young Jack Welch, cause that is what is needed:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/structural-economic-problems-more-worrying-cyclical-ones_588255.html


Structural Economic Problems More Worrying than Cyclical Ones

12:00 AM, Aug 13, 2011 • By IRWIN M. STELZER (http://www.weeklystandard.com/author/irwin-m.-stelzer)

President Obama blames the recent turmoil in financial markets on floods in Japan and Republicans who won’t raise taxes. Republicans blame roiling markets on the president and Democrats who won’t cut spending. The Europeans blame short-sellers. Stock traders blame the problem variously on Standard & Poor’s decision to downgrade America’s credit rating, the unsafe condition of French banks, the Federal Reserve Bank’s failure to give the economy a boost, the Fed’s insistence on giving the economy a boost by announcing that near-zero interest rates will be maintained past the presidential elections in November of 2012, and the fact that this week contains a Friday, a day on which traders shun risk lest their weekends be fraught. And if it rains on Monday….


You get the idea...





But it's argued that the real issues are systemic:


...longer-term problem is revealed not in the figure for the unemployment rate, or even in the far higher figure that includes workers too discouraged to continue pounding the pavements in search of work, and those involuntarily working short hours. It is revealed in the fact that over 6.5 million workers, 44 percent of those counted as unemployed, have been out of work for more than 27 weeks. At the end of the last recession in November 2001 that figure was 13.9 percent....

...A second long-term problem left unattended is the massive debt burden that will sooner or later have to be addressed. No, not the mere $14 trillion-and-rising debt recorded on the books of the U.S. Treasury. The trillions more that are not reflected on the nation’s ledgers. Economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff, who have studied what they call “eight centuries of financial folly,” note: “public obligations are often ‘hidden’ and significantly larger than official figures suggest. In addition, off-balance-sheet guarantees and other creative accounting devices make it even harder to assess the true nature of a country’s debt until a crisis forces everything out into the open.” Think of the massive debt burden that came with recognizing that the federal government is the guarantor of the debt of mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and of the viability of banks that are too big to fail. ...

...consumers no longer can be counted on to borrow and spend as they did in past decades. Yesterday’s report that the Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan survey of consumer sentiment is at its lowest level since May 1980 is a warning shot across the bow of retailers who are counting on a big back to school season, and wondering how much to spend on inventory in advance of the Christmas shopping season. Combine that pessimism with consumers’ need to restore their balance sheets to something approaching pre-binge levels, and it is not unreasonable to assume that when the recovery comes it will not be consumer led. These are only a few of the underlying trends that will in the end matter more than share price gyrations: A mismatch of the unemployed and available jobs, the withdrawal of government purchasing power as a source of growth, and banks less able to lend and consumers less willing and able to borrow. These will be with us long after calm replaces panic on the world’s stock markets.

red states rule
08-13-2011, 10:43 AM
and the situation will only get worse since Obama still has another 18 months in office

Look at how bad things have gotten when Obama hit 2 years in office.


After two years of Obama … Here’s your change! (http://theamericanjingoist.net/index.php/2011/04/25/after-two-years-of-obama-heres-your-change/)


<TBODY>

January 2009

TODAY

% chg

Source



Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.

$1.83

$3.44

84%

1



Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)

$43..48

$99..02

127.7%

2



Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)

$38..74

$91..38

135.9%

2



Gold: London (per troy oz.)

$853.25

$1,369.50

60.5%

2



Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL

$3.56

$6.33

78.1%

2



Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL

$9.66

$13..75

42.3%

2



Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob

$13..37

$35..39

164.7%

2



Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall

7.6%

9.4%

23.7%

3



Unemployment rate, blacks

12.6%

15.8%

25.4%

3



Number of unemployed

11,616,000

14,485,000

24.7%

3



Number of fed. Employees

2,779,000

2,840,000

2.2%

3



Real median household income

$50,112

$49,777

-0.7%

4



Number of food stamp recipients

31,983,716

43,200,878

35.1%

5



Number of unemployment benefit recipients

7,526,598

9,193,838

22.2%

6



Number of long-term unemployed

2,600,000

6,400,000

146.2%

3



Poverty rate, individuals

13.2%

14.3%

8.3%

4



People in poverty in U.S.

39,800,000

43,600,000

9.5%

4



U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings

5

9

n/a

10



Present Situation Index

29.9

23.5

-21.4%

11



Failed banks

140

164

17.1%

12



U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate

89.76

82.03

-8.6%

2



U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions

1,575.1

1,865.7

18.4%

13



U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions

8,310.9

8,852.3

6.5%

13



National debt, in trillions

$10..627

$14..052

32.2%

14


</TBODY>


Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation’s history.
Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane.
27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!
Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury


http://theamericanjingoist.net/index.php/2011/04/25/after-two-years-of-obama-heres-your-change/

OCA
08-13-2011, 10:44 AM
Now that makes sense, systemic it probably is.

OCA
08-13-2011, 10:48 AM
and the situation will only get worse since Obama still has another 18 months in office

Look at how bad things have gotten when Obama hit 2 years in office.


After two years of Obama … Here’s your change! (http://theamericanjingoist.net/index.php/2011/04/25/after-two-years-of-obama-heres-your-change/)


<TBODY>

January 2009

TODAY

% chg

Source



Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.

$1.83

$3.44

84%

1



Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)

$43..48

$99..02

127.7%

2



Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)

$38..74

$91..38

135.9%

2



Gold: London (per troy oz.)

$853.25

$1,369.50

60.5%

2



Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL

$3.56

$6.33

78.1%

2



Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL

$9.66

$13..75

42.3%

2



Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob

$13..37

$35..39

164.7%

2



Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall

7.6%

9.4%

23.7%

3



Unemployment rate, blacks

12.6%

15.8%

25.4%

3



Number of unemployed

11,616,000

14,485,000

24.7%

3



Number of fed. Employees

2,779,000

2,840,000

2.2%

3



Real median household income

$50,112

$49,777

-0.7%

4



Number of food stamp recipients

31,983,716

43,200,878

35.1%

5



Number of unemployment benefit recipients

7,526,598

9,193,838

22.2%

6



Number of long-term unemployed

2,600,000

6,400,000

146.2%

3



Poverty rate, individuals

13.2%

14.3%

8.3%

4



People in poverty in U.S.

39,800,000

43,600,000

9.5%

4



U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings

5

9

n/a

10



Present Situation Index

29.9

23.5

-21.4%

11



Failed banks

140

164

17.1%

12



U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate

89.76

82.03

-8.6%

2



U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions

1,575.1

1,865.7

18.4%

13



U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions

8,310.9

8,852.3

6.5%

13



National debt, in trillions

$10..627

$14..052

32.2%

14


</TBODY>



Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation’s history.
Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane.
27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!
Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury


http://theamericanjingoist.net/index.php/2011/04/25/after-two-years-of-obama-heres-your-change/


Kathianne's link and article not even read................not surprised though.

red states rule
08-13-2011, 03:34 PM
One thing is consistent with Obama

His poll numbers continue to stink along with his performance in office

The Obama lapdogs will not like to be reminded of this :laugh2:


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/august_2011/obama_approval_index_august_13_2011/496293-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_august_13_2011.jpg