Islam's greatest invention

[Little-Acorn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpVJAX0Yp0

[abso]

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Muslim civilisation stretched from southern Spain as far as China. From the 7th century onwards, scholars of many faiths built on the ancient knowledge of the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, making breakthroughs that paved the way for the Renaissance.

The discoveries made by men and women in Muslim civilisation have left their mark on the way we live today. 1001 Inventions uncovers a thousand years of science and technology that has a huge but hidden impact on the modern world.


http://www.1001inventions.com/

[red states rule]

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Muslim civilisation stretched from southern Spain as far as China. From the 7th century onwards, scholars of many faiths built on the ancient knowledge of the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, making breakthroughs that paved the way for the Renaissance.

The discoveries made by men and women in Muslim civilisation have left their mark on the way we live today. 1001 Inventions uncovers a thousand years of science and technology that has a huge but hidden impact on the modern world.


http://www.1001inventions.com/

I have always said Islam is a religion that will blow you away

[abso]

In praise of Islamic civilization

Extract from a speech by Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.

One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.

And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/hewlettpackard.htm

[red states rule]

In praise of Islamic civilization

Extract from a speech by Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.

One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.

And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/hewlettpackard.htm



I know ecplosives manufactures love Muslims. They have seen sales increase over recent years

Maybe someone can design a more comfortable bomb vest for the next lovable Muslim who takes a walk thru a park, or downtown street markets

[abso]

I know ecplosives manufactures love Muslims. They have seen sales increase over recent years

Maybe someone can design a more comfortable bomb vest for the next lovable Muslim who takes a walk thru a park, or downtown street markets

May i ask, how old are you ?

[Gaffer]

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Muslim civilisation stretched from southern Spain as far as China. From the 7th century onwards, scholars of many faiths built on the ancient knowledge of the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, making breakthroughs that paved the way for the Renaissance.

The discoveries made by men and women in Muslim civilisation have left their mark on the way we live today. 1001 Inventions uncovers a thousand years of science and technology that has a huge but hidden impact on the modern world.


http://www.1001inventions.com/

The scholars of many faiths never included islam. The second bold part says men and women. Women were and are nothing more than chattel in islam. To invent things takes understanding and education, self taught or schooled. The whole thing is just pc garbage to make the ignorant arabs look good. Isn't that NASA's new mission?

The only thing islam invented was islam, a means to subjugate and conquer. How's that sharia law working for you there abso?

[ConHog]

The scholars of many faiths never included islam. The second bold part says men and women. Women were and are nothing more than chattel in islam. To invent things takes understanding and education, self taught or schooled. The whole thing is just pc garbage to make the ignorant arabs look good. Isn't that NASA's new mission?

The only thing islam invented was islam, a means to subjugate and conquer. How's that sharia law working for you there abso?

Yes indeed. In ancient times The Arabs of course were skilled in many disciplines and even their women were highly educated. Then along came Islam which sent the Middle East spiraling back into the Middle Ages.

[Gaffer]

In praise of Islamic civilization

Extract from a speech by Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett-Packard.

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.

One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.

And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/hewlettpackard.htm

This is someone who knows absolutely nothing about what he's talking about. Just cause he's a CEO doesn't mean he has knowledge of historical facts. Another pc propaganda speech. All those building designers he talks about were Jewish and Christian. Muslim doctors, engineers, educators, and such are new to islamic countries. The people have been purposely kept backward in order to control them.

[abso]

This is someone who knows absolutely nothing about what he's talking about. Just cause he's a CEO doesn't mean he has knowledge of historical facts. Another pc propaganda speech. All those building designers he talks about were Jewish and Christian. Muslim doctors, engineers, educators, and such are new to islamic countries. The people have been purposely kept backward in order to control them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists :salute:

and btw, for him to be a CEO for Mutli-Billion $ company, then he certainly knows more than you, maybe because he has more than 350 thousand people working for him allover the world so he can't afford to be wrong in his speeches, but of course he is wrong just because you hate what he said :D

[ConHog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists :salute:

Here is the first paragraph of the first entry I found in your list of Muslim "scientists"

Attributions to Calid

It is contested whether the attributions to Khalid ibn Yazid of alchemical writing are justified.[6][Notes 2] A popular legend has him consulting a Byzantine monk Marianos (Morienus the Greek).[Notes 3] The Liber de compositione alchimiae, which was the first alchemical work translated from Arabic to Latin (by Robert of Chester in 1144)[7] was purportedly an epistle of Marianos to Khalid.

Another traditional attribution is of the Liber Trium Verborum.[Notes 4] Forms as Calid filius Ysidri[Notes 5] attempt to distinguish ibn Yazid from others named Calid. Calid filius Hahmil certainly intends ibn Umail. There is a Calid filius Jaici mentioned by Jean-Jacques Manget, who includes an attributed Liber Secretorum Artis in his 1702 compilation Bibliotheca Curiosa Chemica.


He plagarized the work of another. LOL Do I need to read further down the list?


On second thought, I do suppose he should be given some credit for being able to read. That's quite the accomplishment in the Muslim world. He probably ended up being stoned to death for it.

[abso]

Here is the first paragraph of the first entry I found in your list of Muslim "scientists"

Attributions to Calid

It is contested whether the attributions to Khalid ibn Yazid of alchemical writing are justified.[6][Notes 2] A popular legend has him consulting a Byzantine monk Marianos (Morienus the Greek).[Notes 3] The Liber de compositione alchimiae, which was the first alchemical work translated from Arabic to Latin (by Robert of Chester in 1144)[7] was purportedly an epistle of Marianos to Khalid.

Another traditional attribution is of the Liber Trium Verborum.[Notes 4] Forms as Calid filius Ysidri[Notes 5] attempt to distinguish ibn Yazid from others named Calid. Calid filius Hahmil certainly intends ibn Umail. There is a Calid filius Jaici mentioned by Jean-Jacques Manget, who includes an attributed Liber Secretorum Artis in his 1702 compilation Bibliotheca Curiosa Chemica.


He plagarized the work of another. LOL Do I need to read further down the list?


On second thought, I do suppose he should be given some credit for being able to read. That's quite the accomplishment in the Muslim world. He probably ended up being stoned to death for it.


read this, and ask anyone who ever studied medicine about him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

read this, and ask any university math professor about him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khwarizmi



then read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Kindi

[Little-Acorn]

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.
As the OP pointed out, 100% conquering and subjugation, after considerable slaughter. Thanks for nothing.


One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world,
Yep... once a foreign people who did NOT follow Islam finally got hold of it. A people who did NOT ruthlessly crush and subjugate its subjects, but actually originated a creed that encouraged individual freedom, personal responsibility, and respect... later called "the Rights of Englishmen".


Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities,
...or else!


and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known.
...by treating its internal enemies (aka citizens) as it treated the external ones: by harsh laws and harsher punishments. Once the people who disagree with you are all DEAD, there is indeed no more conflict.


The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.
Again, often whether they liked it or not. "Eminent domain" wasn't just a quaint phrase back then, it was a literal fact. It was "trade", sort of... but if you didn't trade OUR way, you might wind up enslaved or dead.


Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity.
Name one.


Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms
Nice try... but these concepts were invented in the far East, and brought back by the abovementioned "traders".


Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars,
Yes, they did indeed. And most of the names they gave, actually differed from the names given centuries before to the same stars by civilizations that had existed for a thousand years before Mohammed raped his first 12-year-old. Kudoes!


and paved the way for space travel and exploration.
I once wrote my name in a square of wet cement in a sidewalk. At age 7. Did I "pave the way" for the interstate freeway system?

It's hard to find a civilization (and I use the word advisedly) that has co-opted so many lies after actually accomplished so little beyond oppression, death, and destruction, to try to justify their existence. Most people who have accomplished nothing, merely say nothing.

I commend that thought to you and your brethern.

Many of today's Arabic peoples are very nice folks, and would never dream of doing some of the things their ancestors did. They are, in fact, civilized, and deserve to take their places among the rest of the civilized world. These days, it's mostly their leaders who retain the barbaric attitudes and desires for which their ancestral leaders are (justly) reviled. It's too bad the truly decent people among them have been unable to get rid of the animals who have kept them in such a primitive state - most of the Arabic people do not deserve the poverty and misery they have.

P.S. I've always enjoyed the stories about flying carpets, and wished I had one. Thank you for them, false though they were. They were fun.

[J.T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpVJAX0Yp0

Thee guy's a retard.

The Jews used the first car bombs in the region and started the Car Bomb War. The car bomb was actually an American invention, if anything, and it was perfected by the IRA.

http://www.amazon.com/Car-Bomb-Robert-Baer/dp/B003Z8ZC8E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1314816954&sr=8-3

Jews were taught in their youth to kill unbelievers for 2000+ years before Islam was even founded.

As for 9/11, even if you buy the official story (you know, the one where Building 7 never existed), where's his rant about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, the Tokyo firebombings...?

If Palestine didn't exist until after Israel was founded, how the hell did the Palestinian Mandate exist before the Jews declared independence?

Since he's been demonstrably wrong on every single point thus far, I'll not waste time listening to the rest of his diatribe.

[J.T]

The only thing islam invented was islam

:lol:

It's amazing, the stupid things you write

[abso]

As the OP pointed out, 100% conquering and subjugation, after considerable slaughter. Thanks for nothing.


Yep... once a foreign people who did NOT follow Islam finally got hold of it. A people who did NOT ruthlessly crush and subjugate its subjects, but actually originated a creed that encouraged individual freedom, personal responsibility, and respect... later called "the Rights of Englishmen".


...or else!


...by treating its internal enemies (aka citizens) as it treated the external ones: by harsh laws and harsher punishments. Once the people who disagree with you are all DEAD, there is indeed no more conflict.


Again, often whether they liked it or not. "Eminent domain" wasn't just a quaint phrase back then, it was a literal fact. It was "trade", sort of... but if you didn't trade OUR way, you might wind up enslaved or dead.


Name one.


Nice try... but these concepts were invented in the far East, and brought back by the abovementioned "traders".


Yes, they did indeed. And most of the names they gave, actually differed from the names given centuries before to the same stars by civilizations that had existed for a thousand years before Mohammed raped his first 12-year-old. Kudoes!


I once wrote my name in a square of wet cement in a sidewalk. At age 7. Did I "pave the way" for the interstate freeway system?

It's hard to find a civilization (and I use the word advisedly) that has co-opted so many lies after actually accomplished so little beyond oppression, death, and destruction, to try to justify their existence. Most people who have accomplished nothing, merely say nothing.

I commend that thought to you and your brethern.

Many of today's Arabic peoples are very nice folks, and would never dream of doing some of the things their ancestors did. They are, in fact, civilized, and deserve to take their places among the rest of the civilized world. These days, it's mostly their leaders who retain the barbaric attitudes and desires for which their ancestral leaders are (justly) reviled. It's too bad the truly decent people among them have been unable to get rid of the animals who have kept them in such a primitive state - most of the Arabic people do not deserve the misery they have.

P.S. I've always enjoyed the stories about flying carpets, and wished I had one. Thank you for them, false though they were. They were fun.


i also enjoyed the stories about flying carpets, i really wished if they were true ;)

[ConHog]

i also enjoyed the stories about flying carpets, i really wished if they were true ;)

They are as true as anything you posted about Islam is.

[Gaffer]

:lol:

It's amazing, the stupid things you write

They don't even compare to the stupid things you write.

And islam was invented by mohammed as a means of subjugating the arab people and conquest of the known world. It's a theocracy disguised as a religion. Where's your hatred? Or doesn't islam count as a religion to be disdained by you.

[ConHog]

They don't even compare to the stupid things you write.

And islam was invented by mohammed as a means of subjugating the arab people and conquest of the known world. It's a theocracy disguised as a religion. Where's your hatred? Or doesn't islam count as a religion to be disdained by you.

I'm predicting JT's response.

" gaeg a rekbga erl bgaq goddamned christians bognhda ggoadng agonghn"

[J.T]

And islam was invented by mohammed as a means of subjugating the arab people and conquest of the known world

So, basically, you're saying there's no real difference between Muslim and Judaism?


It's a theocracy disguised as a religion:laugh:

You should stop trying to use words you don't understand.

[J.T]

Here, prisonpig, I already went over this a long time ago, though I know you're too stupid to learn anything.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/165061-why-is-islam-bad-4.html#post3591371

[ConHog]

Here, prisonpig, I already went over this a long time ago, though I know you're too stupid to learn anything.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/165061-why-is-islam-bad-4.html#post3591371

I can't stand reading your vile , disgusting, irrational fear on THIS board, what makes you think I want to do so on another?

Christaphobe.

[J.T]

I can't stand reading your vile , disgusting, irrational fear on THIS board, what makes you think I want to do so on another?



lol

you say that after following me here :laugh:

[Gaffer]

So, basically, you're saying there's no real difference between Muslim and Judaism?
:laugh:

You should stop trying to use words you don't understand.

I'm saying your religious hatred is geared toward Jews and Christians, especially Jews, and you don't condemn the muslims or any other religion. Your very selective in your hate.

[ConHog]

lol

you say that after following me here :laugh:

Actually , I was invited here , unlike YOU I am wanted here.

Further, if I had known you were here, I may have reconsidered accepting said invitation.

[J.T]

I'm saying your religious hatred is geared toward Jews and Christians, especially Jews, and you don't condemn the muslims or any other religion. Your very selective in your hate.

:lol:

Scroll up, retard, and click the link

http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/165061-why-is-islam-bad-4.html#post3591371

[Gunny]

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Muslim civilisation stretched from southern Spain as far as China. From the 7th century onwards, scholars of many faiths built on the ancient knowledge of the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, making breakthroughs that paved the way for the Renaissance.

The discoveries made by men and women in Muslim civilisation have left their mark on the way we live today. 1001 Inventions uncovers a thousand years of science and technology that has a huge but hidden impact on the modern world.


http://www.1001inventions.com/

True enough. Too bad they haven't progressed out of those days of yesteryear.

[Noir]

The beatable wife.

Or falafel.

Can't decide...

[red states rule]

I would vote for the car bomb, and/or homicide bomber

[J.T]

I would vote for the car bomb

American invention, perfected by the Irish.


http://www.amazon.com/Car-Bomb-Robert-Baer/dp/B003Z8ZC8E

and/or homicide bomberhttp://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/02/world/suicide-bomber-kills-president-of-sri-lanka.html?pagewanted=1

Care to try again?

[red states rule]

http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/130003.jpg

[J.T]

http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/130003.jpg

Are you advocating the murder of Dick Cheney?

[red states rule]

Are you advocating the murder of Dick Cheney?

Only assholes like you would rather see their fellow citizens in jail, and give a pass to AQ murderers

Dick Cheney and I have one thing in common. We both wlecome the hate from liberal idiots and peace niks sicne we know if they are pissed off we are doing something right

[J.T]

Only assholes like you would rather see their fellow citizens in jail

Ask Mehir Ashmal about that.

, and give a pass to AQ murderers


:rolleyes:

Dick Cheney and I have one thing in common.
You're both pathological liars?

[abso]

I'm saying your religious hatred is geared toward Jews and Christians, especially Jews, and you don't condemn the muslims or any other religion. Your very selective in your hate.

i would say exactly the same thing about you, since your hatred is always directed towrds muslims and you never condemn anyone else, as if every non muslim is a saint just for not being a muslim.

[jimnyc]

i would say exactly the same thing about you, since your hatred is always directed towrds muslims and you never condemn anyone else, as if every non muslim is a saint just for not being a muslim.

Post pictures of the hundreds of non-muslims wearing bomb belts and blowing up innocents. That's some sick shit there, my egyptian friend.



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/)

[ConHog]

Post pictures of the hundreds of non-muslims wearing bomb belts and blowing up innocents. That's some sick shit there, my egyptian friend.



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/)

Not to mention Ahab is wrong anyway. I openly and gladly condemn ANYONE who commits ANY act of violence in the name of religion. It's not my fault that there are like 1000 Muslims who do so for every Christian who does so.

That's another of their dirty nasty tricks they try. It never works, including now.

[jimnyc]

Abso, you accidentally hit "enter" and I deleted your repeat/identical post. You're welcome!

Don't be angry that muslimcockroaches have the patent on the bomb belt and call out for jihad on any non-muslim trying to kill innocents by blowing themselves up. At least "civilized" terrorists are smart enough to not kill themselves and that muhammaed is a filthy liar and they ain't getting jack shit when they go to hell for being "martyrs".

[ConHog]

Abso, you accidentally hit "enter" and I deleted your repeat/identical post. You're welcome!

Don't be angry that muslimcockroaches have the patent on the bomb belt and call out for jihad on any non-muslim trying to kill innocents by blowing themselves up. At least "civilized" terrorists are smart enough to not kill themselves and that muhammaed is a filthy liar and they ain't getting jack shit when they go to hell for being "martyrs".

Here's how stupid they are, and actually Jim we should feel sorry for them for this.

A normal person when told by another person that it would be a great idea if they blew themselves up to kill a bunch of civilians would ask that person why THEY weren't doing it if it were such a great thing. But no, these stupid camel jockeys just fall for it EVERY time.

[J.T]

Here's how stupid they are, and actually Jim we should feel sorry for them for this.

A normal person when told by another person that it would be a great idea if they blew themselves up to kill a bunch of civilians would ask that person why THEY weren't doing it if it were such a great thing. But no, these stupid camel jockeys just fall for it EVERY time.

Kinda like how all those stupid Americans never asked bush why, if sending our children to invade two countries was such a great idea his children weren't going?

How many american soldiers have died in combat? How many of the retards never asked the same question?

But now you'll claims that's different because DEUS VOLT FUCK MUSLIMS GOD IS WITH US LONG LIVE THE CRUSADES CHRISTIANITY IS A WARRIOR RELIGION OF GOTD!!!!!!!!!!!!111!! :rolleyes:

[ConHog]

Kinda like how all those stupid Americans never asked bush why, if sending our children to invade two countries was such a great idea his children weren't going?

How many american soldiers have died in combat? How many of the retards never asked the same question?

But now you'll claims that's different because DEUS VOLT FUCK MUSLIMS GOD IS WITH US LONG LIVE THE CRUSADES CHRISTIANITY IS A WARRIOR RELIGION OF GOTD!!!!!!!!!!!!111!! :rolleyes:



More attacks on our military? You're a pathetic pussy.

And if you can't grok the difference between being a uniformed member of the military and being a cowardly suicide bomber, well then you're even dumber than I had feared.

[J.T]

More attacks on our military?

You're the only one attacking them by saying anyone who gives their life for a cause without first demanding the person in front of them do so must be stupid.


And if you can't grok the difference between being a uniformed member of the military and being a cowardly suicide bomber, well then you're even dumber than I had feared.
Cowardly? A man knowingly going into a suicide mission knowing he will die is a coward? I suppose you think someone sitting back at a joystick killing people they'll never see with a remote controlled drone, eating doritoes, and high-fiving his buddy like it's a video game is some sort of hero?

[ConHog]

You're the only one attacking them by saying anyone who gives their life for a cause without first demanding the person in front of them do so must be stupid.

Cowardly? A man knowingly going into a suicide mission knowing he will die is a coward? I suppose you think someone sitting back at a joystick killing people they'll never see with a remote controlled drone, eating doritoes, and high-fiving his buddy like it's a video game is some sort of hero?


Oh, so you're opposed to civilian control over our military and think that only those who have served should be sending others to war? How interesting, another thing you hate about our Constitution.

[J.T]

That's a nice dance. Are you prepared to take back your assertion that our military is all idiots for not demanding that Bush first send his kids if Iraq and Afghanistan are such good ideas? Or for asking everyone who supported the war who why they didn't go first before they went and got themselves killed? Or do you stand by your assertion that anyone who fights in a war knowing they face death in doing so is a retard if they do so without first demanding everyone else in support of their efforts go before them?

[ConHog]

That's a nice dance. Are you prepared to take back your assertion that our military is all idiots for not demanding that Bush first send his kids if Iraq and Afghanistan are such good ideas? Or for asking everyone who supported the war who why they didn't go first before they went and got themselves killed? Or do you stand by your assertion that anyone who fights in a war knowing they face death in doing so is a retard if they do so without first demanding everyone else in support of their efforts go before them?

As far as I know the US military has NEVER sent anyone on a suicide mission. If that changes we can compare notes, otherwise this is an apples to staplers comparison.

[abso]

Not to mention Ahab is wrong anyway. I openly and gladly condemn ANYONE who commits ANY act of violence in the name of religion. It's not my fault that there are like 1000 Muslims who do so for every Christian who does so.

That's another of their dirty nasty tricks they try. It never works, including now.

well, i am not happy about it, but at least we have something in common, because i also condemn ANYONE who commits any act of violence be it in the name of religion or in the name of anything else.

[abso]

Abso, you accidentally hit "enter" and I deleted your repeat/identical post. You're welcome!

Don't be angry that muslimcockroaches have the patent on the bomb belt and call out for jihad on any non-muslim trying to kill innocents by blowing themselves up. At least "civilized" terrorists are smart enough to not kill themselves and that muhammaed is a filthy liar and they ain't getting jack shit when they go to hell for being "martyrs".

thanks for deleting the duplicate post, there is another duplicate in the other thread, i have edited it and said that its a duplicate reply, please delete it.

about the other part of your reply, i will abide by our agreement and refrain from replying to it.

[J.T]

As far as I know the US military has NEVER sent anyone on a suicide mission. If that changes we can compare notes, otherwise this is an apples to staplers comparison.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/muty-o18.shtml