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red states rule
08-01-2011, 09:08 AM
and this is the guy the Tea Party needs too fear and compromise with?






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Barack Obama's only interest in the debt ceiling debate was to raise the borrowing limit sufficiently to get by the next election, and as a cudgel to denigrate the Republicans. His concern was not for the American people and the impact of overwhelming <NOBR>national debt (http://www.debatepolicy.com/#)</NOBR>, nor an impending and inevitable credit downgrade. Rather, he was determined that raising the debt ceiling would not become an issue during the presidential campaign. Thus, spending cuts created out of whole cloth, combined with tax increases aimed at stoking the embers of class envy, were bandied about by his party in order to justify an increase in the debt ceiling of $2.4 Trillion.

The destruction wrought by the nearly $5.5 Trillion (more than a third of the total debt of a nation 222 years old) he will have added to the nation's balance sheet by the end of his term was immaterial, thus no detailed plan was forthcoming from the White House, and no lie or accusation aimed at the opposition was too absurd to tell. The only matter of importance was his re-election; the long-term health of the country be damned.

With this lasted chapter of Obama cynicism he has gone a bridge too far; and that bridge has collapsed behind him.

Little does Barack Obama understand that he has forever branded himself as an incompetent and failure. His narcissism and lifelong history of receiving public adulation will not allow him to comprehend the damage. He does not understand that now few will listen to his speeches, no matter how well delivered; that few will believe what he is saying, as he has lied and obfuscated the facts so often. Many world leaders have already arrived at the conclusion that Barack Obama is a leader that cannot be trusted, the citizens of the United States are beginning to understand that he is a man without a core set of principles thus incapable (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/07/obamas_ineptitude.html) of guiding the ship of state.

The media, increasingly realizing their culpability in the nation's current state of affairs, has begun to ask more penetrating questions and grudgingly question Obama's fitness for office. Columnists once infatuated with his ability to deliver a speech and skin color have finally begun to admit their error. The Left has become more open in their criticism, as they now understand that the hero upon whom they vested so much hope is a hollow shell.

The Obama Presidency is over. He has abdicated all responsibility to the Congress, in particular the House of Representatives, which has little choice but to assume a role they are not structured to do: lead the country as best they can until November 2012. The American people, suffering under the burden of high joblessness, eroding housing values, inflation and dramatically declining economic growth with no prospect of any immediate relief, are increasingly resigned to the fact that they must focus on surviving as best they can until the election.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/obamas_failed_presidency.html

Kathianne
08-01-2011, 09:12 AM
and this is the guy the Tea Party needs too fear and compromise with?Key graph:


He has abdicated all responsibility to the Congress, in particular the House of Representatives, which has little choice but to assume a role they are not structured to do: lead the country as best they can until November 2012.

Whether we like it or not, it's the only conservative ballgame in town. Unless you think there can be some sort of Tea Party coup, they have to play within the rules, until the numbers change.

red states rule
08-01-2011, 09:14 AM
Key graph:



Whether we like it or not, it's the only conservative ballgame in town. Unless you think there can be some sort of Tea Party coup, they have to play within the rules, until the numbers change.

The Tea Party needs to put up alot of candidates in the primaries and do some serious house cleaning

Kathianne
08-01-2011, 09:33 AM
The Tea Party needs to put up alot of candidates in the primaries and do some serious house cleaningIt's the 'tea party philosophy' that we need to see in candidates, I doubt most would have a 'T' behind their names.

On that general premise we agree. The extremists though seem to want to punish those newly elected, if they vote on this. Instead they'd choose to turn the whole electorate against those folks, just because they 'voted' to get this done and plan for the future. To not get some stability going on now, would be as irresponsible as the Democrats have been regarding the budgets.

This is the best that was possible by this date. If the real conservatives keep articulating, gain more to run in the primaries, they will be able to change many things next January, including Obamacare. That won't happen if the 'Republicans' become their version of Obama's whinefest.

red states rule
08-01-2011, 09:37 AM
It's the 'tea party philosophy' that we need to see in candidates, I doubt most would have a 'T' behind their names.

On that general premise we agree. The extremists though seem to want to punish those newly elected, if they vote on this. Instead they'd choose to turn the whole electorate against those folks, just because they 'voted' to get this done and plan for the future. To not get some stability going on now, would be as irresponsible as the Democrats have been regarding the budgets.

This is the best that was possible by this date. If the real conservatives keep articulating, gain more to run in the primaries, they will be able to change many things next January, including Obamacare. That won't happen if the 'Republicans' become their version of Obama's whinefest.

It is not a whinefest when the debt ges from 14 trillion to 16.3 trillion and they offer the excuse "this is the best we can get"

So much for cutting spending Kat. With baseline budgeting discretionary spending goes from 500 billion to 590 billion. This is a spending cut?

Kathianne
08-01-2011, 09:42 AM
When Obama got on television and whined to call your representatives to give him his ball back, that was whining. IF the 'opposition' dug in their heels for the next 9 months and refused to let the government move, that would be perceived as more than whining. It would be irresponsible and probably sink the economy in ways that cannot be perceived. To do so in the guise of a 'reality check' would be anything but.

Reality says to get the best they could as a minority of the government, which they did. To overplay their status and potential would be foolhardy, not just for the philosophy, but for the country.


It is not a whinefest when the debt ges from 14 trillion to 16.3 trillion and they offer the excuse "this is the best we can get"

So much for cutting spending Kat. With baseline budgeting discretionary spending goes from 500 billion to 590 billion. This is a spending cut?

red states rule
08-01-2011, 09:49 AM
When Obama got on television and whined to call your representatives to give him his ball back, that was whining. IF the 'opposition' dug in their heels for the next 9 months and refused to let the government move, that would be perceived as more than whining. It would be irresponsible and probably sink the economy in ways that cannot be perceived. To do so in the guise of a 'reality check' would be anything but.

Reality says to get the best they could as a minority of the government, which they did. To overplay their status and potential would be foolhardy, not just for the philosophy, but for the country.

Obama can whine and have his robo callers call in. But the real "caals" were made at the ballot box in 2010 and will be done again after this crappy bill is passed in 2012

Sink the economy Kat? The economy is already sinking thanks to Obama and his policies