Gunpoint Vaccinations

[J.T]

The Gates Foundation has long been in an aggressive effort to vaccinate the world and often targets poor Africans. The Gates’ web site showcases Melinda Gates applauding Malawi for enforcing vaccine programs with its helpful “health surveillance assistants.”

She calls Malawi one of the few countries “on track to reach the UN Millennium Development Goal.” And who are those assistants meeting the goal? Hyper-vigilant medics with help from police.
Bill Gates calls the vaccine-autism link “an absolute lie” and in a February CNN interview said, “the people who go and engage in those anti-vaccine efforts – you know, they, they kill children.” But as we can see from the recent actions from governments who partner with his foundation to forcefully implement vaccine programs, it could very well be the other way around.
Malawi Voice recently reported that about 131 children from Nsanje were vaccinated with anti-measles at gunpoint last week. They had fled from previous vaccine mandates into nearby towns, but after officials learned they had returned, medics along with police escorts tracked the children and forced them to vaccinate.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/20/gates-foundation-partner-in-malawi-vaccinates-131-children-at-gunpoint/

[Dilloduck]

they are only trying to help the third world countries get in shape for the New World Order. Besides---it's good for them.

[Wind Song]

Measles was nearly eradicated, now it's back. It can be fatal.

[darin]

^^^ Same with liberalism.

[fj1200]

http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/20/gates-foundation-partner-in-malawi-vaccinates-131-children-at-gunpoint/

Socialism, love it.

[Gunny]

they are only trying to help the third world countries get in shape for the New World Order. Besides---it's good for them.

Really. What's the difference between there and here?

Here, if you don't get your children their state-mandated immunizations, they can't go to school. If you don't send them to school, you can have your children taken away and/or arrested and/or fined or any combination of the three.

Gunboat socialism is gunboat socialism, no matter what shade of lipstick you paste on that pig.

[Wind Song]

If you're that much of a fanatic that you won't immunize your children against measles, you ought to home school your children. They endanger others.

[fj1200]

If you're that much of a fanatic that you won't immunize your children against measles, you ought to home school your children. They endanger others.

Your obsession with fanatics is well... fanatical.

[Wind Song]

Your obsession with fanatics is well... fanatical.

LOL. True.

[Little-Acorn]

Gunboat socialism is gunboat socialism, no matter what shade of lipstick you paste on that pig.
Sorry, no.

The authority of government to quarantine people with contagious, potentially fatal diseases, is well established in every government on the planet, including the relatively free one this country had a few hundred years ago.

People with such diseases who do mingle with others are a clear and present danger, just as a person who carried a gun that intermittently and unpredictably fired all by itself would be (I know, there is no such gun, but you see my point). It doesn't take any socialism to give the government authority to protect people from lethal-disease carriers.

The only exception to this rule, has been AIDS carriers. Though the disease is contagious and often lethal, the government has for some reason made it ILLEGAL for doctors to warn others that someone they treat, has the disease. And severe penalties have been legislated, not for people who knowingly give others AIDS, but for those who try to stop them, or try to find where the patient got the disease and so quarantine that carrier.

As a result, countless thousands have died needlessly in this country - a bizarre exception to the usual procedure where lethal-disease carriers are investigated for their source, and either cured or (if no cure is known) quarantined.

[Gunny]

If you're that much of a fanatic that you won't immunize your children against measles, you ought to home school your children. They endanger others.

Nothing fanatical about stating a fact, nor does stating that fact have anything to do with my children.

I can easily argue back that it's YOUR measles -infested child that is the danger to others, not mine that doesn't have them until she runs into yours. I can't think of anyone from my generation, nor even my children's that didn't have measles and chickenpox. I also can't think of anyone dying from them.

I CAN however see the obvious: taking yet another drug that suppresses the body's natural immune system.

[J.T]

I CAN however see the obvious: taking yet another drug that suppresses the body's natural immune system.

That's not how vaccines work. Vaccines train the immune system and actually serve to make it stronger. Think of it as analogous to the way we push the limits of a muscle so that it becomes stronger as it overcomes the burden placed upon it and adapts to it.



A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism, and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe or its toxins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Immune_system) to recognize the agent as foreign, destroy it, and "remember" it, so that the immune system can more easily recognize and destroy any of these microorganisms that it later encounters.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Vaccine

You're thinking of immunosuppressants.


Deliberately induced immunosuppression is generally done to prevent the body from rejecting (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Transplant_rejection) an organ transplant (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Organ_transplant), treating graft-versus-host disease (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Graft-versus-host_disease) after a bone marrow transplant (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bone_marrow_transplant), or for the treatment of auto-immune diseases (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Auto-immune_disease) such as rheumatoid arthritis (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Rheumatoid_arthritis) or Crohn's disease (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crohn's_disease). This is typically done using drugs, but may involve surgery (splenectomy (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Splenectomy)), plasmapharesis (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Plasmapharesis), or radiation.
A person who is undergoing immunosuppression, or whose immune system is weak for other reasons (for example, chemotherapy (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Chemotherapy), HIV (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/HIV), and Lupus (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Lupus)) is said to be immunocompromised (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Immunocompromised).

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Immunosuppression

[Gunny]

That's not how vaccines work. Vaccines train the immune system and actually serve to make it stronger. Think of it as analogous to the way we push the limits of a muscle so that it becomes stronger as it overcomes the burden placed upon it and adapts to it.


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Vaccine

You're thinking of immunosuppressants.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Immunosuppression

I'm well aware of how vaccines are supposed to work. Growing up in, then being in the military, I was used as a gov't pincushion for 40+ years.

[Gunny]

Sorry, no.

The authority of government to quarantine people with contagious, potentially fatal diseases, is well established in every government on the planet, including the relatively free one this country had a few hundred years ago.

People with such diseases who do mingle with others are a clear and present danger, just as a person who carried a gun that intermittently and unpredictably fired all by itself would be (I know, there is no such gun, but you see my point). It doesn't take any socialism to give the government authority to protect people from lethal-disease carriers.

The only exception to this rule, has been AIDS carriers. Though the disease is contagious and often lethal, the government has for some reason made it ILLEGAL for doctors to warn others that someone they treat, has the disease. And severe penalties have been legislated, not for people who knowingly give others AIDS, but for those who try to stop them, or try to find where the patient got the disease and so quarantine that carrier.

As a result, countless thousands have died needlessly in this country - a bizarre exception to the usual procedure where lethal-disease carriers are investigated for their source, and either cured or (if no cure is known) quarantined.

Sorry, but yes. It is what it is regardless how you choose to justify it.