Two never-used Navy ships head to scrapyard

[red states rule]

Now remember folks, taxes must be raised. Government has been cut to the bone. Spending cuts opnly will not balance the budget. We have a revenue problem not a spending program. Government spending will get the nation out of the Obama economy.

This is what the Dems, liberal media, and Obama are pushing yet reality tells a different story






Embroiled by legal battles for more than 25 years, two U.S. Navy ships are finally headed to the scrap heap without ever having sailed and despite the fact that they're almost completely finished.

According to Hampton Roads, the USNS Bejamin Isherwood and the USNS Henry Eckford were commissioned in 1985 at the Pennsylvania Shipbuilding Co. to carry fuel to the Navy's fleet around the globe.

When the company defaulted on its Navy contract in 1989 the 660-foot ships were sent to Florida for completion, but cost disputes terminated that contract in 1993.

Since then, the vessels have sat 95 and 84 percent complete at the mouth of the James River as part of the mothballed ghost fleet.

In 1997, the Navy cut its ties and British company Able UK considered re-commissioning them for international sale to a NATO country.

Because they're single-hulled ships, not the double-hulls required of today's tankers, Able UK passed and instead took $10 million to scrap them along with two other ghost ships.

This week both vessels are being towed to International Shipbreaking Limited in Brownsville, TX to be cut up, their innards pulled out and their steel and other metals sold for recycling.


Hampton Roads quotes Joseph Keefe from maritimeprofessional.com who says the scrapping of the tankers will "close one of the saddest chapters in American shipbuilding and for that matter, federal fiduciary folly."

No money will be returned to the U.S. treasury.



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[J.T]

Now remember folks, taxes must be raised. Government has been cut to the bone. Spending cuts opnly will not balance the budget. We have a revenue problem not a spending program. Government spending will get the nation out of the Obama economy.

This is what the Dems, liberal media, and Obama are pushing yet reality tells a different story
Now remember, kiddies: 'defense' spending cuts are off-the-table. There's no such thing as 'wasteful' or 'unnecessary' spending when it comes to 'national security'. We must instead cut WIC and programs like SS that only recently started paying out more than they took in and which have taken in enough surplus revenue in the last few decades to pay for themselves for decades to come if we just stop raiding that surplus to pay for corn ethanol, oil, and corporate jet subsidies and brand spankin' new ships that we'll never use before they become obsolete. Military spending mustn't ever be touched because we Republicans want Al Qaeda to win (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEXphFgYryE). More war spending is good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PjtXkSbew).

:clap:

[red states rule]

Now remember, kiddies: 'defense' spending cuts are off-the-table. There's no such thing as 'wasteful' or 'unnecessary' spending when it comes to 'national security'. We must instead cut WIC and programs like SS that only recently started paying out more than they took in and which have taken in enough surplus revenue in the last few decades to pay for themselves for decades to come if we just stop raiding that surplus to pay for corn ethanol, oil, and corporate jet subsidies and brand spankin' new ships that we'll never use before they become obsolete. Military spending mustn't ever be touched because we Republicans want Al Qaeda to win (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEXphFgYryE). More war spending is good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PjtXkSbew).

:clap:

I have not heard any major Republican say there is NOTHING in the defense budget that CANNOT be cut

Every department has fat and it needs to be cut with a Homelight chainsaw

We are broke and the balance of the credit card keeps going up everyday

Libs like Maddow will find a way to blame Bush for this one anyway

[J.T]

I have not heard any major Republican say there is NOTHING in the defense budget that CANNOT be cut
So all military spending can be cut?

Mitt Romney: Defense Spending Cuts Off The Table If Elected President
(http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/161489-romney-im-not-going-to-cut-the-defense-budget)

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) said Monday he wouldn't cut the defense budget if he's elected president....
"I'm not going to cut the defense budget," Romney said in a question-and-answer session on his Facebook page.



Every department has fat and it needs to be cut with a Homelight chainsaw

Except for the military aggression budget? (http://gooznews.com/?p=2474)

Hell, they force spending down the military's throat even when the military doesn't want it. Remember them trying to force through funding for the development of a second engine for the F-35 to benefit their campaign financiers after the military said they didn't want it (http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/stop-jet-engine-pet-project-that-military-does-not)?


We are broke and the balance of the credit card keeps going up everyday


We could stop invading people. That might be a good start. Let's end our aggressions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Libya; cease occupying nations we fought in WWII; use those funds and resources to instead secure our own fucking borders; halt subsidies for petroleum and corn ethanol; make it illegal to transfer funds to/from the Vatican Bank and other institutions/shell banks/accounts known to be used by terrorists and drug cartels to launder money and by the rich to avoid taxation; get rid of all but one of the federal land-management bureaucracies; give the Western States their land back (http://bigthink.com/ideas/21343); reinstate the pre-carter marginal tax rates and close tax loopholes; reinstate the socialism of the 1950s with laws that protect the real income of the American people; instate protective tariffs and taxes on the importation of goods from nations which do not have environmental and worker protection laws comparable to our own, thereby disincentivizing outsourcing and encouraging a strong American economy rather than continuing to pursue the global capitalism that's led us where we are today- and then take a look at the books in 2-4 years, wonder at all thew money we now have, and see what else can be cut. Oh yeah, we can also cut of the following instances of institutionalized racial discrimination (http://www.usmessageboard.com/race-relations-racism/146155-justify-these-racist-programs.html):

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14.869 Title VI Federal Guarantees for Financing Tribal Housing Activities (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_14.869_natve.html)
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15.030 Indian Law Enforcement (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.030_natve.html)
15.031 Indian Community Fire Protection (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.031_natve.html)
15.032 Indian Economic Development (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.032_natve.html)


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15.039 Fish, Wildlife, and Parks Programs on Indian Lands (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.039_natve.html)
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15.041 Environmental Management_Indian Programs (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.041_natve.html)
15.042 Indian School Equalization Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.042_natve.html)
15.043 Indian Child and Family Education (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.043_natve.html)
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15.045 Assistance for Indian Children with Severe Disabilities (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.045_natve.html)
15.046 Administrative Cost Grants for Indian Schools (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.046_natve.html)
15.047 Indian Education Facilities, Operations, and Maintenance (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.047_natve.html)
15.048 Bureau of Indian Affairs Facilities_Operations and Maintenance (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.048_natve.html)
15.049 Irrigation Operations and Maintenance on Indian Lands (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.049_natve.html)
15.050 Unresolved Indian Hunting and Fishing Rights (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.050_natve.html)
15.051 Endangered Species on Indian Lands (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.051_natve.html)
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15.053 Attorney Fees_Indian Rights (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.053_natve.html)
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15.058 Indian Post Secondary Schools (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.058_natve.html)
15.059 Indian Graduate Student Scholarships (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.059_natve.html)
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15.064 Structural Fire Protection_Bureau of Indian Affairs Facilities (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.064_natve.html)
15.065 Safety of Dams on Indian Lands (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.065_natve.html)
15.108 Indian Employment Assistance (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.108_natve.html)
15.113 Indian Social Services_Welfare Assistance (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.133_natve.html)
15.114 Indian Education_Higher Education Grant Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.114_natve.html)
15.124 Indian Loans_Economic Development (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.124_natve.html)
15.130 Indian Education_Assistance to Schools (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.130_natve.html)
15.141 Indian Housing Assistance (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.141_natve.html)
15.144 Indian Child Welfare Act_Title II Grants (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.144_natve.html)
15.146 Ironworker Training Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.146_natve.html)
15.222 Cooperative Inspection Agreements with States and Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.222_natve.html)
15.850 Indian Arts and Crafts Development (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.850_natve.html)
15.922 Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_15.922_natve.html)
16.308 Indian Country Investigations (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.308_natve.html)
16.583 Children's Justice Act Partnerships for Indian Communities (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.583_natve.html)
16.587 Violence Against Women Discretionary Grants for Indian Tribal Governments (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.587_natve.html)
16.596 Correctional Grant Program for Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.596_natve.html)
16.608 Tribal Court Assistance Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.608_natve.html)
16.616 Indian Country Alcohol and Drug Prevention (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.616_natve.html)
16.731 Tribal Youth Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_16.731_natve.html)
17.254 Welfare-to-Work Grants to Federally Recognized Tribes and Alaska Natives (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_17.254_natve.html)
17.265 Native American Employment and Training (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_17.265_natve.html)
30.009 Employment Discrimination Project Contracts_Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_30.009_natve.html)
64.126 Native American Veteran Direct Loan Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_64.126_natve.html)
66.715 Childhood Blood-Lead Screening and Lead Awareness (Educational) Outreach for Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_66.715_natve.html)
66.812 Hazardous Waste Management Grants for Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_66.812_natve.html)
66.926 Indian Environmental General Assistance Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_66.926_natve.html)
84.060 Indian Education_Grants to Local Educational Agencies (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.060_natve.html)
84.101 Vocational Education_Indians Set-aside (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.101_natve.html)
84.245 Tribally Controlled Postsecondary Vocational and Technical Institutions (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.245_natve.html)
84.250 Rehabilitation Services_American Indians with Disabilities (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.250_natve.html)
84.258 Even Start_Indian Tribes and Tribal Organizations (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.258_natve.html)
84.259 Native Hawaiian Vocational Education (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.259_natve.html)
84.356 Alaska Native Educational Programs (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.356_natve.html)
84.362 Native Hawaiian Education (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_84.362_natve.html)
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93.052 National Family Caregiver Support (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.052_natve.html)
93.123 Health Professions Pregraduate Scholarship Program for Indians (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.123_natve.html)
93.164 Indian Health Service Educational Loan Repayment (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.164_natve.html)
93.193 Urban Indian Health Services (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.193_natve.html)
93.202 Capacity Building Among American Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.202_natve.html)
93.210 Tribal Self-Governance Demonstration Program: Planning and Negotiation Cooperative Agreements and IHS Compacts (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.210_natve.html)
93.219 Matching Grants for Health Professions Scholarships to Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.219_natve.html)
93.228 Indian Health Service_Health Management Development Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.228_natve.html)
93.237 Special Diabetes Program for Indians_Diabetes Prevention and Treatment Projects (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.237_natve.html)
93.284 Injury Prevention Program for American Indians and Alaskan Natives_Cooperative Agreements (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.284_natve.html)
93.441 Indian Self-Determination (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.441_natve.html)
93.581 Improving the Capability of Indian Tribal Governments to Regulate Environmental Quality (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.581_natve.html)
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93.587 Promote the Survival and Continuing Vitality of Native American Languages (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.587_natve.html)
93.594 Tribal Work Grants (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.594_natve.html)
93.612 Native American Programs (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.612_natve.html)
93.671 Family Violence Prevention and Services/Grants for Battered Women's Shelters_Grants to States and Indian Tribes (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.671_natve.html)
93.932 Native Hawaiian Health Systems (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.932_natve.html)
93.933 Demonstration Projects for Indian Health (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.933_natve.html)
93.954 Tribal Recruitment and Retention of Health Professionals into Indian Health Programs (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.954_natve.html)
93.970 Health Professions Recruitment Program for Indians (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.970_natve.html)

93.971 Health Professions Preparatory Scholarship Program for Indians (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.971_natve.html)
93.972 Health Professions Scholarship Program (http://www.educationmoney.com/prgm_93.972_natve.html)

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Libs like Maddow will find a way to blame Bush for this one anyway
Really? Is that all you got? :slap:

[Dilloduck]

Romney better say he won't cut the military budget. Military contractors have deep pockets.
Almost seems as if they call the shots. We don't need ships---we just need to spend the money to build them.

[red states rule]

Romney better say he won't cut the military budget. Military contractors have deep pockets.
Almost seems as if they call the shots. We don't need ships---we just need to spend the money to build them.

Romeny is Obama light and I hope he is not the guy the Republicans put up against Obama

That might be the one way Obama hangs on to his job

Yes, DOD can be cut - there is alot of fat there as in every government department

[J.T]

Romney better say he won't cut the military budget. Military contractors have deep pockets.
Almost seems as if they call the shots. We don't need ships---we just need to spend the money to build them.
:clap:



You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dilloduck again.

:(

[logroller]

Now remember folks, taxes must be raised. Government has been cut to the bone. Spending cuts opnly will not balance the budget. We have a revenue problem not a spending program. Government spending will get the nation out of the Obama economy.

This is what the Dems, liberal media, and Obama are pushing yet reality tells a different story

Any boat owner will admit scrapping them from the start would the wiser investment:laugh2: