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Kathianne
06-16-2011, 07:25 AM
Quite a choice! This from a supporter of Obama? Would be funny if not so true:

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/06/14/is-carter-a-best-case-scenario/


June 14, 2011
Is Carter A Best Case Scenario?
Walter Russell Mead

The greatest example of anticlimax in the English language, said William F. Buckley, was the final line in the unofficial anthem of his undergraduate college: “For God, for country, and for Yale.”

Buckley’s anticlimax now faces a challenge from an even shorter phrase: “The Obama Administration” is on the road to becoming the most anticlimactic expression known to man.

President Obama swept into office on a tide of Lincoln and FDR comparisons. A giddy press corps swooned every time he spoke; his cabinet was a ‘team of rivals’ like Lincoln’s. His mandate, the press said, was to be a transformative president, like FDR. The more sober said he would be a Democratic Reagan: just as the Californian led the country into a generation of conservative politics, so President Obama would lead Democrats into permanent majoritarian status.

This was the consensus of the mainstream press; it was also the opinion of the President’s inner circle. Based on that consensus, the President made the decisions which, if he fails of re-election in 2012, history will likely regard as the fatal mistakes of his term: he went along with the flawed and failed stimulus program the Democratic Congress put forward, and he pushed forward on health care reform before economic recovery was assured.

In reality, President Obama’s mandate was not to be a transformer; he was elected to conserve. In 2008 the independents who elected Obama by deserting the GOP were tired of the drama of the Bush administration and they were terrified by the financial panic that followed the failure of Lehman Brothers. What they wanted was another Bill Clinton: a calm and soothing figure who would feel their pain and tweak the New Deal/Great Society state model to make it a little more user-friendly and a little less bankruptcy prone.

Midway through 2010, President Obama looked less like Lincoln redux and more like a Clinton manqué. By the end of that year, the penultimate dissing of the President began; friends and foes began to ask whether President Obama might not be, gasp, the new Jimmy Carter.

Instapundit maestro Glenn Reynolds has been saying for some time that from where he sits, the Carter comparison looks like a best case scenario for this President. For all our sakes, I hope Glenn is wrong, but increasingly there’s another specter frightening the Obama administration: the ghost of Herbert Hoover.

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Really long opinion piece, with many good historical references.

revelarts
06-16-2011, 07:54 AM
I think Like Lincon Hover Fdr and carter have there own special niches and that
Bush/Obama should be considered 1 long adminstration.

Bush started with the largests presidential power grab since FDR and started the largest spending deficits, and started the Bail outs and Faux wars, And set up the security state where where none of the bill of rights count for crap as long as a president says "security". Up to and including torture. Obama has Increase the spending, continued the Bailouts, continued the security state, increased the faux wars with even less legality. and has made no visible changes to the presidential position on the bill of rights. And Added another leg to the gov't with Health care. Both have made it policy to ignore congress, by executive order and ignoring laws they don't like, do exactly what they want to do.

These 2 presidents have created a monster of the office.

the left is upset that he hasn't brought in a prosperity with gov't jobs all around, and the right is upset that he what he has tired has been very leftist for the economy but secretly happy he's failed.

While what they Bush/Obama Have accomplished is very sinister and a complete departure from the intent of the office and the freedom of the republic.

red states rule
06-18-2011, 04:14 AM
Well lets see

Inflation on the rise, unemployment keeps ticking up, people continue to lsoe their homes, gas prices have doubled since Obama has taken office, stock market heading south, and the entire time Obama (and his drones) tell us the economy is reovering

I do not think Obama is like Carter or Hoover

He is more like Bagdad Bob

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Much like his supporters are. Both ignore reality and are only worried about saving Obama's job - and the hell with the rest of us

PostmodernProphet
06-19-2011, 07:06 AM
I think Like Lincon Hover Fdr and carter have there own special niches and that
Bush/Obama should be considered 1 long adminstration.

Bush started with the largests presidential power grab since FDR and started the largest spending deficits, and started the Bail outs and Faux wars, And set up the security state where where none of the bill of rights count for crap as long as a president says "security". Up to and including torture. Obama has Increase the spending, continued the Bailouts, continued the security state, increased the faux wars with even less legality. and has made no visible changes to the presidential position on the bill of rights. And Added another leg to the gov't with Health care. Both have made it policy to ignore congress, by executive order and ignoring laws they don't like, do exactly what they want to do.

These 2 presidents have created a monster of the office.

the left is upset that he hasn't brought in a prosperity with gov't jobs all around, and the right is upset that he what he has tired has been very leftist for the economy but secretly happy he's failed.

While what they Bush/Obama Have accomplished is very sinister and a complete departure from the intent of the office and the freedom of the republic.

I could see it if you argued that Carter and Obama should be considered one administration.....with a burst of sanity in between......

red states rule
06-19-2011, 08:12 AM
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