Vegans sentenced for starving their baby

[LiberalNation]

What a stupid thing to do. Don't feel sorry for them at all.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070509/ap_on_re_us/vegans_baby_death;_ylt=AgtbYF0E34JTffSgY22KSoxvzwc F

ATLANTA - A vegan couple were sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for the death of their malnourished 6-week-old baby boy, who was fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice.

Superior Court Judge L.A. McConnell imposed the mandatory sentences on Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31. Their son, Crown Shakur, weighed just 3 1/2 pounds when he died of starvation on April 25, 2004.

The couple were found guilty May 2 of malice murder, felony murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty to children. A jury deliberated about seven hours before returning the guilty verdicts.

Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.

But prosecutors said the couple intentionally neglected their child and refused to take him to the doctor even as the baby's body wasted away.

"No matter how many times they want to say, 'We're vegans, we're vegetarians,' that's not the issue in this case," said prosecutor Chuck Boring. "The child died because he was not fed. Period."

Although the life sentences were automatic, Sanders and Thomas begged for leniency before sentencing. Sanders urged the judge to look past his "perception" of the couple.

"I loved my son — and I did not starve him," she said.

When the judge told the defendants they could ask for a new trial, Thomas hung his head low.

"I'm dying every day in there," he said, "and that could take three years."

[avatar4321]

"I loved my son — and I did not starve him," she said.



She is in denial. It's obvious she starved her son. Otherwise he wouldnt be dead.

And its not like its difficult to give him food either. she freakin makes it!

[MtnBiker]

Could the mother have breast fed her child?

[Nienna]

Could the mother have breast fed her child?

But humans are just other animals, and believe ME, breastfeeding IS cruel (to the mother), at first! ;)

This quote bothered me...

"No matter how many times they want to say, 'We're vegans, we're vegetarians,' that's not the issue in this case," said prosecutor Chuck Boring. "The child died because he was not fed. Period."

THEY might have chosen to be vegans, but the newborn BABY has different needs. People really just do not get it that having children is not a fun way to accessorize their lives. These people (at best) totally ignored the dietary needs of the child so that they could follow a lifestyle choice. But, really, how could you see your child waste away to 3 1/2 pounds and NOT get a clue that he needed MORE FOOD?

[Little-Acorn]

BTW, they weren't "vegans". That's a person from Vega, or maybe someone who drives an old Chevy. These people were vegetarians.

I know, lots of people say "vegans". Just as they say "gaming" instead of the correct term "gambling", and "modern liberal" or "progressive" instead of the correct term "socialist". But why should we help them do it?

[glockmail]

...A vegan couple .....Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31. Their son, Crown Shakur, ........

Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died......Although the life sentences were automatic, Sanders and Thomas begged for leniency before sentencing. Sanders urged the judge to look past his "perception" of the couple.

"I loved my son — and I did not starve him," she said.

When the judge told the defendants they could ask for a new trial, Thomas hung his head low.

"I'm dying every day in there," he said, "and that could take three years."

Liberals with a capital L. Three last names, unhealthy lifestyle based on some emotion-based belief, denial of the facts, refusal to accept responsibility for cause and effect, and lastly, play the victim. :pee:

[MtnBiker]

BTW, they weren't "vegans". That's a person from Vega, or maybe someone who drives an old Chevy. These people were vegetarians.

I know, lots of people say "vegans". Just as they say "gaming" instead of the correct term "gambling", and "modern liberal" or "progressive" instead of the correct term "socialist". But why should we help them do it?


Actually there is a difference between a vegan and a vegetarian.


what is a VEGAN? A vegan (pronounced VEE-gun) is someone who, for various reasons, chooses to avoid using or consuming animal products. While vegetarians choose not to use flesh foods, vegans also avoid dairy and eggs, as well as fur, leather, wool, down, and cosmetics or chemical products tested on animals.

why VEGAN? Veganism, the natural extension of vegetarianism, is an integral component of a cruelty-free lifestyle. Living vegan provides numerous benefits to animals' lives, to the environment, and to our own health–through a healthy diet and lifestyle

http://www.vegan.org/about_veganism/index.html

[Pale Rider]

They're guilty as hell and deserve everything they get.

"Starve a child to death".... these sons a bitches should be hung in public.

[Trigg]

But humans are just other animals, and believe ME, breastfeeding IS cruel (to the mother), at first! ;)


Is it true that vegans won't breastfeed? I'm confused, it's as natural as it gets.

I hope she's in long enough that when she comes out she's not able to have anymore children.

[Pale Rider]

Is it true that vegans won't breastfeed? I'm confused, it's as natural as it gets.

I hope she's in long enough that when she comes out she's not able to have anymore children.

I'd imagine that with everything they've been charged with, they'll never see the outside again.

[MtnBiker]

Given the mother's diet I wonder if she produced milk of nutritional value?

[Trigg]

I'd imagine that with everything they've been charged with, they'll never see the outside again.

Lets hope!

[TheStripey1]

BTW, they weren't "vegans". That's a person from Vega, or maybe someone who drives an old Chevy. These people were vegetarians.

I know, lots of people say "vegans". Just as they say "gaming" instead of the correct term "gambling", and "modern liberal" or "progressive" instead of the correct term "socialist". But why should we help them do it?



actually vegan is a term for those that don't do ANY animal products... which includes milk... But it was pretty stupid of them not to realize that their baby needed milk to survive.

Considering the level of their idiocy, it is probably a good thing that they won't be making any more children.

[avatar4321]

its rather sad that people can do something this stupid and ruin their lives.

[KitchenKitten99]

Given the mother's diet I wonder if she produced milk of nutritional value?

Actually, the baby would get his needed nutrients all from the breastmilk, but that means whatever is left, the mom gets, which in this case, it doesn't sound like much. Her body would suffer greatly unless she ups her food and fluid intake and usually (normal) women continue to take prenatal vitamins well after giving birth, because of the vitamin loss because baby gets much of it.

[Yurt]

I know plenty of strict vegans, their daughters are hot...

They obviously were not truly following a vegan diet. A sad case though, talk about learning the hard way.

[Yurt]

Is it true that vegans won't breastfeed? I'm confused, it's as natural as it gets.

I hope she's in long enough that when she comes out she's not able to have anymore children.

No, vegans can breast feed. I know, but here is a link as well:


The earliest food for a vegan baby is ideally breast milk. Many benefits to the infant are conveyed by breast feeding including some enhancement of the immune system, protection against infection, and reduced risk of allergies. In addition, breast milk was designed for baby humans and quite probably contains substances needed by growing infants which are not even known to be essential and are not included in infant formulas.

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm

[Little-Acorn]

Actually there is a difference between a vegan and a vegetarian.

http://www.vegan.org/about_veganism/index.html

Thanks, MtnBiker, difference noted.

So, where a vegetarian is merely a fruitcake, a vegan is an extreme fruitcake.

Got it. :^)

[MtnBiker]

Thanks, MtnBiker, difference noted.

So, where a vegetarian is merely a fruitcake, a vegan is an extreme fruitcake.

Got it. :^)


Exactly! :laugh2:

[Nienna]

BTW, they weren't "vegans". That's a person from Vega, or maybe someone who drives an old Chevy. These people were vegetarians.

I know, lots of people say "vegans". Just as they say "gaming" instead of the correct term "gambling", and "modern liberal" or "progressive" instead of the correct term "socialist". But why should we help them do it?


I think vegans are vegetarian extremists. My aunt is a vegetarian, but will still take milk, chicken broth, etc. I believe vegans consume NO animal products.


EDIT: I see MtnBiker beat me to it. :)

[Nienna]

Is it true that vegans won't breastfeed? I'm confused, it's as natural as it gets.

I hope she's in long enough that when she comes out she's not able to have anymore children.

Trigg... I don't know if they won't breastfeed; I just said that off the top of my head. But it would make sense. They don't take milk from other animals, so I assumed they wouldn't take human milk, either. Maybe they believe that you shouldn't take milk from other species, but breastfeeding is okay. I don't know for sure, but they were feeding the baby soy milk & apple juice, which made me think they were opposed to breast-milk.

And you're right, breastfeeding IS natural. That IS why the milk is there in the first place.

[Nienna]

Considering the level of their idiocy, it is probably a good thing that they won't be making any more children.

Hope they aren't allowed conjugal visits! :eek:

[Birdzeye]

Hope they aren't allowed conjugal visits! :eek:

LOL! :laugh2: