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Gaffer
05-13-2011, 01:56 PM
http://patdollard.com/2011/05/obama-hesitated-%E2%80%93-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Note:This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East.

Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

The rest is at the site. A mini temporary coup. It just seems so accurate considering how this administration acts. I know they can't give the name of the insider but would sure like more confirmation on this article.

gabosaurus
05-13-2011, 02:09 PM
Right-wing bloggers say the craziest things.

Gaffer
05-13-2011, 02:18 PM
I misspelled plausible, can a mod help me out here?

fj1200
05-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Right-wing bloggers say the craziest things.

Maybe so, but this...

A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.
... lends it a ton of credibility. :laugh:

Gaffer
05-13-2011, 02:47 PM
Maybe so, but this...

... lends it a ton of credibility. :laugh:

That's one of the things that makes it so credible. And the fact they say he had to be dragged in off the golf course. The whole scenario is so him.

revelarts
05-13-2011, 03:10 PM
Gaffer it does sound plausible.
But as you said, there's no way to confirm it.

you and a few others here have given me HEAVY grief for stuff where i've produced military persons is ON camera saying things like this about a president or against an official story.

Just saying, There's much less here, evidence wise, than items you've FLAT rejected before.

Until there's more info this can go on the maybe so maybe no shelf IMO.

jimnyc
05-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I misspelled plausible, can a mod help me out here?

All looks fine to me ;)

Gaffer
05-13-2011, 03:28 PM
Gaffer it does sound plausible.
But as you said, there's no way to confirm it.

you and a few others here have given me HEAVY grief for stuff where i've produced military persons is ON camera saying things like this about a president or against an official story.

Just saying, There's much less here, evidence wise, than items you've FLAT rejected before.

Until there's more info, this can go on the maybe so maybe no shelf IMO.

Your right. We do need more info and I haven't found anything to back up this story. I put it out there in case others come across something. If we wait long enough one of them will slip up and say something or there will be a "leak". If it were proved true it would destroy his presidency.

It's not your standard conspiracy theory, it's more of an expose and if it's fake, it's well written.