Reaction from Arab world?

[gabosaurus]

What do you think, noted DP scholars? How do you think those sympathetic to the AQ cause will react?

It is known that, for several years, AQ threatened a "nuclear holocaust" if Bin Laden was captured or killed. Captured informants have said that Western leaders would be "killed like dogs."

Strangely enough, Al-Jazeera has published no reaction from Arab leaders. In fact, as of 9 p.m. or so Sunday, the news had not been published in the Arab media.
The online website of Dawn, the national newspaper of Pakistan, got such heavy traffic that it has crashed.

[DragonStryk72]

What do you think, noted DP scholars? How do you think those sympathetic to the AQ cause will react?

It is known that, for several years, AQ threatened a "nuclear holocaust" if Bin Laden was captured or killed. Captured informants have said that Western leaders would be "killed like dogs."

Strangely enough, Al-Jazeera has published no reaction from Arab leaders. In fact, as of 9 p.m. or so Sunday, the news had not been published in the Arab media.
The online website of Dawn, the national newspaper of Pakistan, got such heavy traffic that it has crashed.

For a while, it's gonna be "OH FUCK!!"

[logroller]

I don't think AQ has much support from the mainstream Muslim community; for the most part they're all sick of the fearmongering necessary for extremism to thrive. Bin Laden's defeat adds to the credibility of the US in a world of increasing instability; credibility which was waning even in the eyes of America itself. Our ability to reach deep into unfriendly territory is an invaluable tool to possess; no doubt 9/11 showed us just how powerful a tool it could be in the wrong hands. It would appear we have reasserted our dominance and, though some may be dismayed, the entire world takes heed of justice prevailing and the United States wielding the gavel!:salute:

[fj1200]

What do you think, noted DP scholars?

Depends on if we offend the Muslim sensibilities in how we display the body, etc.

[Nukeman]

Most, will be relieved. OBL has done irreperable harm to Islam with his terrorist activities. Ohh there will be a vocal minority that will blame the US for everything but over all, the Arab communities will be relieved. That is if we in turn scale down our efforts and move to more surgical strikes on the terrorist.... IMHO

[logroller]

Most, will be relieved. OBL has done irreperable harm to Islam with his terrorist activities. Ohh there will be a vocal minority that will blame the US for everything but over all, the Arab communities will be relieved. That is if we in turn scale down our efforts and move to more surgical strikes on the terrorist.... IMHO

Not sure that's a "reaction" so much as business as usual. What's important is there voice is fine, but should it inspire action, it can and will be met with equal or greater reaction.

[PostmodernProphet]

Depends on if we offend the Muslim sensibilities in how we display the body, etc.

so you're thinking dismemberment is over the top?.......

[Little-Acorn]

Reaction from Arab world?

Who gives a shit?

I don't recall the "Arab world" throwing up their hands in horror and sympathy on Sept. 11, 2001. "Reaction" from them was muted at best.

In fact, there was some Saudi Arabian prince who came to New York some weeks or months after the attacks, who gave Rudy Giuliani a check for $10,000,000 and asked that it be used to help the families and loved one of those killed. Rudy accepted the check, complimented the prince, etc.

Then a moment later, the prince made some comment about how it was unfortunate that America kept humoring and supporting the Jews who had brought all this on, or something like that.

Giuliani turned to the prince, handed him the check back, and escorted him to the door.

http://articles.cnn.com/2001-10-11/us/rec.giuliani.prince_1_saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-israeli-withdrawal-criminal-attack?_s=PM:US

If you ask me, the "Arab world" weighed in on this matter long ago. I am uninterested in their reactions to subsequent events. If they like it, fine. If they don't, tough.

[fj1200]

so you're thinking dismemberment is over the top?.......

:laugh: Maybe a touch. I recall us getting some grief when Saddam's sons were put on display. Best to avoid that.

[DragonStryk72]

Actually, Gabby was specifically asking about AQ sympathetic people of the Arab World, hence my "Oh Fuck!" comment.

In seriousness, Bin Laden was a major coup. Yeah, it isn't winning the war, but it would be like in WWII if we took out Hitler before taking the rest of Germany down. It drives their morale way down, and it brings about fractures that might not otherwise occur.

Now we just need to finish the job with the rest of Al Qaeda and we'll be good to go.

It did like the point that Obama made in his speech, that we just showed terrorists that, no matter how long it might take, be it two decades and four adminstrations, we will get our target.

Btw, any bets on how many years it's gonna be before the guy who actually took the shot on Osama is gonna have to pay for a drink again?

[jimnyc]

Fellow terrorists and other nutcases have already step forward to defend Bin Laden, cry over this death and assail the US killing of this scumbag. I'll also guaranfuckingtee you that MANY Muslims "secretly" support or are angry over this. Jihad is what is expected, we are infidels and OBL is a leader and/or here to MANY.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-killing-brings-anger-relief-arab-world-111805526.html

http://tribune.com.pk/story/161126/hundreds-join-first-rally-to-honour-bin-laden/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/2/musharraf-bin-laden-mission-violated-pakistan/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/hamas-condemns-killing-holy-warrior-bin-laden-110039788.html

[logroller]

Fellow terrorists and other nutcases have already step forward to defend Bin Laden, cry over this death and assail the US killing of this scumbag. I'll also guaranfuckingtee you that MANY Muslims "secretly" support or are angry over this. Jihad is what is expected, we are infidels and OBL is a leader and/or here to MANY.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-killing-brings-anger-relief-arab-world-111805526.html

http://tribune.com.pk/story/161126/hundreds-join-first-rally-to-honour-bin-laden/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/2/musharraf-bin-laden-mission-violated-pakistan/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/hamas-condemns-killing-holy-warrior-bin-laden-110039788.html

This isn't a holy war. Don't play to the extremist rhetoric. Here's a nice overview of statements from Aljazeera.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/05/20115241936984209.html

PS Jim, be sure and check out the Peruvian president's response.

[jimnyc]

This isn't a holy war. Don't play to the extremist rhetoric. Here's a nice overview of statements from Aljazeera.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/05/20115241936984209.html

PS Jim, be sure and check out the Peruvian president's response.

I have no doubt that millions and millions of Muslims are happy with his death, and quite a few Islamic leaders. I also have no doubt that tons of Muslims believe in the cause that OBL led and "jihad", and are upset with his death as well. To "kill the infidels" and "jihad" is a way of life for millions of Muslims, even if that only equates to a small percentage of Muslims.

[logroller]

I have no doubt that millions and millions of Muslims are happy with his death, and quite a few Islamic leaders. I also have no doubt that tons of Muslims believe in the cause that OBL led and "jihad", and are upset with his death as well. To "kill the infidels" and "jihad" is a way of life for millions of Muslims, even if that only equates to a small percentage of Muslims.

By way of analogy, I'm sure countless people get rich ripping off other people in a capitalist economy, but I wouldn't blame that on their being capitalists.

[jimnyc]

While the numbers have dropped over the years, still MANY had faith in, and followed, and believed in OBL's life and jihad. He still had overall high percentages of support - for a terrorist.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110502/ts_yblog_thelookout/poll-shows-bin-ladens-popularity-with-muslims-waning

[logroller]

Btw, any bets on how many years it's gonna be before the guy who actually took the shot on Osama is gonna have to pay for a drink again?

I'd say his kids'll be getting free drinks. Talk about the "Well my daddy" one-upsmanship.

[gabosaurus]

The Pakistani government is already doing damage control in an attempt to defuse criticism that the military were protecting bin Laden.
If you are interested, you can read Pakistan's major daily, Dawn, at www.dawn.com

[LuvRPgrl]

What do you think, noted DP scholars? How do you think those sympathetic to the AQ cause will react?

It is known that, for several years, AQ threatened a "nuclear holocaust" if Bin Laden was captured or killed. Captured informants have said that Western leaders would be "killed like dogs."

Strangely enough, Al-Jazeera has published no reaction from Arab leaders. In fact, as of 9 p.m. or so Sunday, the news had not been published in the Arab media.
The online website of Dawn, the national newspaper of Pakistan, got such heavy traffic that it has crashed.

The HOT AIR of Al Q, the Taliban and other terrorists in the name of allah the shithead, far outreaches what they claim they will do, those ragheads have to resort to terrorism simply because they have no other way of accomplishing anything than to blow up innocent women and children who cant defend themselves only because the cowardly ragheads even do that by surprise attacks.

[logroller]

The HOT AIR of Al Q, the Taliban and other terrorists in the name of allah the shithead, far outreaches what they claim they will do, those ragheads have to resort to terrorism simply because they have no other way of accomplishing anything than to blow up innocent women and children who cant defend themselves only because the cowardly ragheads even do that by surprise attacks.

Isn't Allah God? I don't think He's a shithead...

[avatar4321]

Will be something we should keep an eye on but Im not terribly concerned with it. We need to fix some domestic issues before we focus on foreign issues.

[DragonStryk72]

I have no doubt that millions and millions of Muslims are happy with his death, and quite a few Islamic leaders. I also have no doubt that tons of Muslims believe in the cause that OBL led and "jihad", and are upset with his death as well. To "kill the infidels" and "jihad" is a way of life for millions of Muslims, even if that only equates to a small percentage of Muslims.

Yeah, and what were the Christians doing the last thousand years? Trust me, we've got little room to speak on the subject. Not just the crusades, there was also the way we decided to "civilize" the "savage" Native Americans.

[Kathianne]

Yeah, and what were the Christians doing the last thousand years? Trust me, we've got little room to speak on the subject. Not just the crusades, there was also the way we decided to "civilize" the "savage" Native Americans.

Get real. Even then, there were more than a few voices of dissent. Just like there were during slavery and other wrongs committed. Looking for something that comes to the same standard and woe, there just isn't. A few voices howling in the void doesn't cut it.

[logroller]

Yeah, and what were the Christians doing the last thousand years? Trust me, we've got little room to speak on the subject. Not just the crusades, there was also the way we decided to "civilize" the "savage" Native Americans.

Its different when you're the winner!:laugh:

[red states rule]

What do you think, noted DP scholars? How do you think those sympathetic to the AQ cause will react?

It is known that, for several years, AQ threatened a "nuclear holocaust" if Bin Laden was captured or killed. Captured informants have said that Western leaders would be "killed like dogs."

Strangely enough, Al-Jazeera has published no reaction from Arab leaders. In fact, as of 9 p.m. or so Sunday, the news had not been published in the Arab media.
The online website of Dawn, the national newspaper of Pakistan, got such heavy traffic that it has crashed.

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/holb110503_cmyk20110502093711.jpg

[jimnyc]

Yeah, and what were the Christians doing the last thousand years? Trust me, we've got little room to speak on the subject. Not just the crusades, there was also the way we decided to "civilize" the "savage" Native Americans.

What a load of shit. We aren't talking about ancient history, we are talking about current civilization. Unfortunately, too many muslims live in ancient history. If you want to give them a free pass because others did bad deeds before them, that's your choice.

[DragonStryk72]

What a load of shit. We aren't talking about ancient history, we are talking about current civilization. Unfortunately, too many muslims live in ancient history. If you want to give them a free pass because others did bad deeds before them, that's your choice.

And the Japanese internment camps from WWII? I didn't just talk about ancient history. There are rat bastards in every single religion on the planet, along with Atheism. Race, Creed, and Religion pretty has done some horrific shit somewhere along the line.

[Noir]

Obl being killed is symbolic, and will no doubt have a negative affect overall on grass roots AQ guys, even if the reaction gives them a surge in the short term.

Other things that will do damage I'd the fact that he was not (as many believed) living in an uncomfortable cave like location, struggling. He was instead living in as much luxury as he could. He was killed without his men being able to even injure a marine (as far as we know) and that it seems his wife put up more of a fight, by rushing the marines than he did.

But, enough of the grass roots, what about other Arab governments? I think many will be worried, because the amount of Data that the marines will have collected will be HUGE, and will no doubt contain names and messages to goverment officials in the dirty with AQ, this is probably why allot of paki ministers/army cheifs etc will be losing sleep over the next while
Will be worried, because we all know they were involved with helping hide obl to some degree, and their fingerprints are going to be eerywhere.

[red states rule]

And the Japanese internment camps from WWII? I didn't just talk about ancient history. There are rat bastards in every single religion on the planet, along with Atheism. Race, Creed, and Religion pretty has done some horrific shit somewhere along the line.

It must give you a warm feeling all over to smear the country you once served

Not enough promotions or awards DS?

There must be some reason for this hate you have for the US

[Kathianne]

And the Japanese internment camps from WWII? I didn't just talk about ancient history. There are rat bastards in every single religion on the planet, along with Atheism. Race, Creed, and Religion pretty has done some horrific shit somewhere along the line.

What did the Japanese internment camps have to do with religion? Racism yes, I'd go along with that. In this case though you are trying to mix apples and oranges.

[jimnyc]

And the Japanese internment camps from WWII? I didn't just talk about ancient history. There are rat bastards in every single religion on the planet, along with Atheism. Race, Creed, and Religion pretty has done some horrific shit somewhere along the line.

If I were somehow related to ANYONE, whether by race, creed or religion, in current times, I would apologize for their actions, keep my mouth shut, and work for a better world.

But I'm not. So I'M NOT the same as them. I am not a rat bastard. I've not killed. And I have every damn right to condemn the filthy fucks who do. I have ALL THE ROOM IN THE WORLD to speak and condemn them and their actions. What people did decades or centuries ago sure as shit doesn't prevent me from speaking out in MODERN times, while some act like they still do live back centuries ago.

[PostmodernProphet]

Yeah, and what were the Christians doing the last thousand years? Trust me, we've got little room to speak on the subject. Not just the crusades, there was also the way we decided to "civilize" the "savage" Native Americans.

so your defense is to say that Muslim extremists are as civilized as the Christians were a thousand years ago?.....

[DragonStryk72]

It must give you a warm feeling all over to smear the country you once served

Not enough promotions or awards DS?

There must be some reason for this hate you have for the US

Wow, seriously? Cause I won't desecrate the dead? When did that become the ideal of our country? I missed the line where it said "With liberty and torture for all". Maybe you could show me that line, RSR?

Seriously, I'm not sure when having nor respect for life became such a huge lack of patriotism. Or that we're above such vile practices. You do get that right? That America's better than that.

[logroller]

I think we should remind ourselves that OBL is dead, his participation in the war is over! An American principle, as famous stated in the Declaration of Independance read in part, "hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends." We have delivered OBL onto his maker, our actions on this earth no longer bear any consequence unto whatever peace he shall find-- only what peace on this earth WE shall find.

Rather or not you want the war to continue, by all means, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. But, if you think desecrating the dead and infuriating a class of people is, in any way, pursuant of a peaceful resolution, perhaps you should reevaluate your understanding of peace. Because many of our enemies have inspired their soldiers to commit heinous acts against us in war by convincing them we would do just the things some have called for us to do to OBL. I, for one, would like to see OBL become the footnote he is, and assuage the anger of our enemies, rather than inspire more of it.