Why the Left Lost It

[red states rule]

For 8 years we told dissent was patriotic now we are told it creates violence

It's like Ronald Reagan once said, "it's not that liberals don't know anything, it's that so much of what they do know is wrong".







The tea party itself got help from history—the arrival of a clarifying event, the sovereign debt crisis of 2010. Simultaneously in the capitals of Europe, California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and elsewhere it was revealed that fiscal commitments made across decades, often for liberally inspired social goals, had put all these states into a condition of effective bankruptcy.

This stark reality unnerved many Americans. The tea partiers' fiscal concerns were real. Despite that, a progressive Democratic president and congressional leadership spent 2009 and 2010 passing the biggest economic entitlement since 1965 and driving U.S. spending to 25%, or $3.5 trillion, of the nation's $14 trillion GDP. A public claim of that size hasn't been seen since World War II.

They expected to take losses in November. What they got instead was Armageddon. Suddenly an authentic reform movement, linked to the Republican Party, whose goal simply is to stop the public spending curve, had come to life. This poses a mortal threat to the financial oxygen in the economic ecosystem that the public wing of the Democratic Party has inhabited all these years.

The stakes for the American left in 2012 couldn't possibly be higher. If then, and again in 2014, progressives can't pull toward their candidates some percentage of the independent voters who in November abandoned the Democratic Party, they could be looking in from the outside for as many years as some of them have left to write about politics. A wilderness is a terrible place to be.

Against that grim result, every sentence Messrs. Krugman, Packer, Alter, the Times and the rest have written about Tucson is logical and understandable. What happened in November has to be stopped, by whatever means become available. Available this week was a chance to make some independents wonder if the tea parties, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Jared Loughner are all part of the same dark force.

Who believes this? They do.

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[KarlMarx]

For 8 years we told dissent was patriotic now we are told it creates violence

It's like Ronald Reagan once said, "it's not that liberals don't know anything, it's that so much of what they do know is wrong".

One day, I told the two liberals at the end of my aisle, the ones who blame George Bush for everything, about the millions of people wiped out by Communism. One of them started scowling and said "I don't agree with that....". I told him that it wasn't an opinion, it was a FACT. He still shook his head and said "I still don't agree".

With the paranoid climate at work, I make it a policy not to start discussing or arguing politics at work... so I dropped it.

But it just shows how brainwashed these people are.

[Palin Rider]

For 8 years we told dissent was patriotic now we are told it creates violence.

Patriotic people know how to voice their opinions peaceably.

Shouting down town-hall meetings and stepping on demonstrators' heads isn't patriotic. It's treason.

[Trigg]

Patriotic people know how to voice their opinions peaceably.

Shouting down town-hall meetings and stepping on demonstrators' heads isn't patriotic. It's treason.

Shouting at a meeting is treason......bullshit.

I'd also like to see a link to someone stepping on a demonstrators head.

[Palin Rider]

Shouting at a meeting is treason......bullshit.
Preventing dialogue between congresspeople and their constituents is definitely opposed to democratic ideals. That's equivalent to treason.


I'd also like to see a link to someone stepping on a demonstrators head.

Here (http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/27/ky-head-stomping-drama-ignites-political-blogosphere/).

[gabosaurus]

For 8 years we told dissent was patriotic now we are told it creates violence


Revisionist history much?
For eight years, we were told that dissent was treasonous and that we were aiding the enemy by opposing a president during "war time." Every time one of our otherwise peaceful protest rallies was disrupted by radical factions, it was shown on TV news, to the utter delight of orgasmic conservatives.
Now the reverse is holding forth. Ultra conservatives believe that opposing a president during "war time" is the ultimate in patriotism. And when their otherwise peaceful protest rallies are disrupted by radical factions, then shown on the news, conservatives blow a gasket and blame the "hateful liberal media."

[red states rule]

Patriotic people know how to voice their opinions peaceably.

Shouting down town-hall meetings and stepping on demonstrators' heads isn't patriotic. It's treason.

Noone "shouted down" a Town Hall. Dems refused to listen, and insulted those speaking out against Obamacare. Most were delt with back on November 2, 2010

As far as your video - you left something out

Your "victim" lunged at Rand Paul and was stopped. Yes the assualt was not needed - but as usual you painted a one sided picture

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[red states rule]

Revisionist history much?
For eight years, we were told that dissent was treasonous and that we were aiding the enemy by opposing a president during "war time." Every time one of our otherwise peaceful protest rallies was disrupted by radical factions, it was shown on TV news, to the utter delight of orgasmic conservatives.
Now the reverse is holding forth. Ultra conservatives believe that opposing a president during "war time" is the ultimate in patriotism. And when their otherwise peaceful protest rallies are disrupted by radical factions, then shown on the news, conservatives blow a gasket and blame the "hateful liberal media."

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Hey Gabby, I see you have ignored the thread on Liberal Hate. Do you have a problem with trying to defend what the left and liberal media have said over the years about those that oppose their agenda?

[red states rule]

While libs talk about conservative "hate" radio - they ignore liberal talk radio hosts spreading their brand of civility

Here is #1 liberal talk show host (which means most people never heard of him) showing what the left believes

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[Palin Rider]

Noone "shouted down" a Town Hall.
Lying as usual (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9p3scx28huoJ:articles.cnn.com/2009-08-07/politics/health.care.scuffles_1_health-care-chants-meeting-room%3F_s%3DPM:POLITICS+town+hall+healthcare+meeti ngs&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us), I see.


As far as your video - you left something out

Your "victim" lunged at Rand Paul and was stopped.

It's not "my" video and she's not "my" victim, Burger King Kid.

[red states rule]

Lying as usual (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9p3scx28huoJ:articles.cnn.com/2009-08-07/politics/health.care.scuffles_1_health-care-chants-meeting-room%3F_s%3DPM:POLITICS+town+hall+healthcare+meeti ngs&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us), I see.



It's not "my" video and she's not "my" victim, Burger King Kid.

What's the matter punk? Having a problem with your garbage being ripped apart with facts?

You must really love collecting thiose red squares because you just got another one :laugh2:

[red states rule]

and the liberal media still does not get it. They continue to rewrite history and fuel the flames


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[Indy]

Preventing dialogue between congresspeople and their constituents is definitely opposed to democratic ideals. That's equivalent to treason.



Here (http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/27/ky-head-stomping-drama-ignites-political-blogosphere/)."Look closely. There is no head stomp".Looks more like liberal theater. The left is famous for infiltrating a conservative event passing themselves off as conservatives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w&feature=player_embedded#!http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/democrats-leftists-and-elite-media-inciting-violence-against-republicans/ Read some of racist vile hate filled emails to Malkin. If you dare.

[Palin Rider]

"Look closely. There is no head stomp".Looks more like liberal theater. The left is famous for infiltrating a conservative event passing themselves off as conservatives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w&feature=player_embedded#!http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/democrats-leftists-and-elite-media-inciting-violence-against-republicans/ Read some of racist vile hate filled emails to Malkin. If you dare.
Even if this girl was a paid demonstrator, that's hardly reason to assault her and cause physical injury. Grow up.

[actsnoblemartin]

wouldnt they have to have had it to begin with, for them to lose it

intelligence, no need, just insert liberal feelings :coffee:


For 8 years we told dissent was patriotic now we are told it creates violence

It's like Ronald Reagan once said, "it's not that liberals don't know anything, it's that so much of what they do know is wrong".