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red states rule
10-21-2010, 04:59 AM
Usually I enjoy watching liberals fall vivtim to their own liberalism, but is this case.

Juan Williams is a liberal, but not the usual fire breathing hate sprewing libs we usually see on TV (like at MSNBC)

What Mr Williams said was not racist, and it shows how thin skinned and defensive the left is these days

Judge for yourself, click the link, and watch the video

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/21/npr_fires_juan_williams_after_muslim_remarks_.html

Kathianne
10-21-2010, 05:50 AM
Unreal. Well the mask is falling from the great wizards. I expect we'll see the ranks of the tea parties growing.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 06:06 AM
Usually I enjoy watching liberals fall vivtim to their own liberalism, but is this case.

Juan Williams is a liberal, but not the usual fire breathing hate sprewing libs we usually see on TV (like at MSNBC)

What Mr Williams said was not racist, and it shows how thin skinned and defensive the left is these days

Judge for yourself, click the link, and watch the video

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/21/npr_fires_juan_williams_after_muslim_remarks_.html

Well, maybe FOX will hire him full time. I don't think he is anywhere near as loony left as Alan Colmes.

Little-Acorn
10-21-2010, 10:28 AM
Andrew Sullivan comments here that (quote) Williams' statement about fearing Muslims on planes is an example of bigotry. "What if someone said that they saw a black man walking down the street in classic thug get-up," Sullivan wrote. "Would a white person be a bigot [if] he assumed he was going to mug him?' (close quote)

There are degrees of discomfort, of course. I'm white. And if I saw someone like that, I wouldn't assume he was going to mug me. But I'd figure that he was slightly more likely to mug somebody than a wizened little granny (black or white) dressed in Woolworth's clothes, was likely to mug somebody. And I wouldn't be bigoted for thinking that - just aware of facts.

It's Sullivan who's being bigoted here, in fact, assuming that I will think a certain thing based on someone's color and dress.

Hey, Andrew! If you see some buy with a beard and flannel shirt walking down the street with a gun in a holster at his side, will you assume he's going to shoot somebody? Or that we need to make more laws restricting him from carrying that gun?

Juan Williams just got a dose of the intolerance that liberals have for opposing points of view. Has Bill O'Reilly been fired for expressing a similar point of view? No, because O'Reilly works for people who are genuinely TOLERANT. Were Alan Colmes or Ellis Hennican ever kicked out for having diametrically opposite points of view from O'Reilly's? No, for the same reason: The people who invited them in, were TOLERANT.

Welcome to the club, Juan. Bigotry and intolerance, aren't just against skin color.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101021/cm_yblog_upshot/npr-fires-juan-williams-for-muslim-remarks-on-fox

NPR fires Juan Williams for Muslim remarks on Fox

By Michael Calderone – 2 hrs 1 min ago

NPR terminated the contract of Juan Williams on Wednesday after comments the veteran journalist and news analyst made about Muslims on Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor."

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly stirred up controversy last week on "The View" after making the blanket statement that "Muslims killed us on 9/11," a comment that led to co-hosts Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg walking off the set.

On Monday, O'Reilly asked Williams if there is a "Muslim dilemma" in the United States. The NPR analyst and longtime Fox News contributor agreed with O'Reilly that such a thing exists, and added that "political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality."

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot," Williams continued. "You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

Some commentators and a leading Muslim civil rights organization took issue with Williams' comments.

The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan wrote Wednesday morning that Williams' statement about fearing Muslims on planes is an example of bigotry. "What if someone said that they saw a black man walking down the street in classic thug get-up," Sullivan wrote. "Would a white person be a bigot [if] he assumed he was going to mug him?'

Kathianne
10-21-2010, 12:36 PM
Andrew Sullivan comments here that (quote) Williams' statement about fearing Muslims on planes is an example of bigotry. "What if someone said that they saw a black man walking down the street in classic thug get-up," Sullivan wrote. "Would a white person be a bigot [if] he assumed he was going to mug him?' (close quote)

There are degrees of discomfort, of course. I'm white. And if I saw someone like that, I wouldn't assume he was going to mug me. But I'd figure that he was slightly more likely to mug somebody than a wizened little granny (black or white) dressed in Woolworth's clothes, was likely to mug somebody. And I wouldn't be bigoted for thinking that - just aware of facts.

It's Sullivan who's being bigoted here, in fact, assuming that I will think a certain thing based on someone's color and dress.

Hey, Andrew! If you see some buy with a beard and flannel shirt walking down the street with a gun in a holster at his side, will you assume he's going to shoot somebody? Or that we need to make more laws restricting him from carrying that gun?

Juan Williams just got a dose of the intolerance that liberals have for opposing points of view. Has Bill O'Reilly been fired for expressing a similar point of view? No, because O'Reilly works for people who are genuinely TOLERANT. Were Alan Colmes or Ellis Hennican ever kicked out for having diametrically opposite points of view from O'Reilly's? No, for the same reason: The people who invited them in, were TOLERANT.

Welcome to the club, Juan. Bigotry and intolerance, aren't just against skin color.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101021/cm_yblog_upshot/npr-fires-juan-williams-for-muslim-remarks-on-fox

NPR fires Juan Williams for Muslim remarks on Fox

By Michael Calderone – 2 hrs 1 min ago

NPR terminated the contract of Juan Williams on Wednesday after comments the veteran journalist and news analyst made about Muslims on Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor."

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly stirred up controversy last week on "The View" after making the blanket statement that "Muslims killed us on 9/11," a comment that led to co-hosts Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg walking off the set.

On Monday, O'Reilly asked Williams if there is a "Muslim dilemma" in the United States. The NPR analyst and longtime Fox News contributor agreed with O'Reilly that such a thing exists, and added that "political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality."

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot," Williams continued. "You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

Some commentators and a leading Muslim civil rights organization took issue with Williams' comments.

The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan wrote Wednesday morning that Williams' statement about fearing Muslims on planes is an example of bigotry. "What if someone said that they saw a black man walking down the street in classic thug get-up," Sullivan wrote. "Would a white person be a bigot [if] he assumed he was going to mug him?'

I think Obama used his grandma for that example, no? :laugh2:

Trigg
10-21-2010, 04:59 PM
I've always enjoyed listening to Williams take on things and NPR has made a major mistake IMHO by firing him.

This remark is no different than one Jackson made about being relieved when he was walking down a dark street, heard footsteps, turned around and it was a white man behind him instead of a young black man.

I think 9-11 has made everyone take more interest in people when boarding a plane. It's sad when you can't be honest these days for fear of the PC police.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 05:09 PM
I predicted this:

Juan has just signed an expanded contract with FoxNews.

BTW ... I guess this is the first shot of Soros trying to take out controversial commentators that work for Fox.

I believe Soros is one of NPR's major contributors ($1.8 Million).

BoogyMan
10-21-2010, 07:23 PM
I heard today that they were trying to come up with some reason to fire Mara Liason as well, another NPR personality who also appears on Fox. No idea as to whether it is true, but it would be pretty transparent if they do it.

Kathianne
10-21-2010, 07:25 PM
NPR, like PBS should be able to hire whomever they like, fire too. Of course, they shouldn't look to US taxpayer to subsidize their choices in help or content.

krisy
10-21-2010, 07:33 PM
NPR= Thought police

Juan Williams is by far one of the more tolerable liberals on any news station. He was just on O'Reilly and apparently Juan is (was) the only black guy they had:laugh:. Wondering where Jackson and Sharpton are?! He didn't deserve this. The head "lady" at NPR looks like a real bitch to be honest.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 08:46 PM
Holy Moses!!! NPR is getting blasted by everyone .... both conservatives and liberals for the idotic move they made.

See what happens when George Soros is involved in something....he's trying to control speech. He is donating money to Media Matters to destroy FoxNews and his latest is a donation to NPR to hire liberal journalists. Guess Juan wasn't progressive enough.

I'm glad this man is being exposed for the Puppetmaster he is.

Noir
10-21-2010, 08:57 PM
Meh, not enough to be fired imo, but if he's serious about getting worried when he sees a Muslim on a plane he's an idiot.

avatar4321
10-21-2010, 09:09 PM
Don't fall for it. He was fired because George Soros, a contributer to NPR, is waging war on Fox and everyone who works there.

Gaffer
10-21-2010, 09:18 PM
Meh, not enough to be fired imo, but if he's serious about getting worried when he sees a Muslim on a plane he's an idiot.

Let's see Noir, the four hijackings on 9/11, muslims.

The shoe bomber, muslim.

The underwear bomber, muslim.

The four CAIR dudes who wanted to play musical seats and acted suspicious so they could start a law suit, muslim.

The plot to blow up ten plans bound from the UK to the US using liquid explosives, muslims.

That's just off the top of my head, and who knows how many were not in the news.

No you have no need to be concerned. Being politically correct will protect you.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 09:23 PM
Let's see Noir, the four hijackings on 9/11, muslims.

The shoe bomber, muslim.

The underwear bomber, muslim.

The four CAIR dudes who wanted to play musical seats and acted suspicious so they could start a law suit, muslim.

The plot to blow up ten plans bound from the UK to the US using liquid explosives, muslims.

That's just off the top of my head, and who knows how many were not in the news.

No you have no need to be concerned. Being politically correct will protect you.

:clap::clap::clap:

Noir
10-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Well gaffer in my country your MUCH more likey to be shot or blown up by White Catholic Republicians, I guess I should get worried everytime I see a white catholic, right? >,>

I've got better things to do with my time than worry about such tosh.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 09:32 PM
Well gaffer in my country your MUCH more likey to be shot or blown up by White Catholic Republicians, I guess I should get worried everytime I see a white catholic, right? >,>

I've got better things to do with my time than worry about such tosh.

Are you guys still blowing each other up? I thought you guys were past all that.

Noir
10-21-2010, 09:47 PM
Are you guys still blowing each other up? I thought you guys were past all that.

It calmed down for a while but has started up again, 30 or so bombs this year (one of which was left on a car a few streets from my house) bombs left in bins, in school playgrounds, police and soilders shot dead, buildings firebombed etc etc.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
It calmed down for a while but has started up again, 30 or so bombs this year (one of which was left on a car a few streets from my house) bombs left in bins, in school playgrounds, police and soilders shot dead, buildings firebombed etc etc.

Wow ... sounds like Mexico.

Noir
10-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Wow ... sounds like Mexico.

It's nit *that* bad but it does affect day to day life sometimes.

It's also interesting that a few months ago we had 3 bombs and a shooting within 8 days, and I'll bet you guys heard nothing about it. But if the terrorists had been Islamic as apose to Republican it would of been on every news station worldwide >,>

Now back on topic, I guess that fool who's scared of Muslims on plane would shit some bricks over here, given 99% are white with a fair wack of them being Catholic. He'd also be scared of cars, bins, pizza delivery men and staying in a building overnight...

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 10:41 PM
It's nit *that* bad but it does affect day to day life sometimes.

It's also interesting that a few months ago we had 3 bombs and a shooting within 8 days, and I'll bet you guys heard nothing about it. But if the terrorists had been Islamic as apose to Republican it would of been on every news station worldwide >,>

Now back on topic, I guess that fool who's scared of Muslims on plane would shit some bricks over here, given 99% are white with a fair wack of them being Catholic. He'd also be scared of cars, bins, pizza delivery men and staying in a building overnight...

White Catholic Muslims? Can a Muslim be Catholic?

Noir
10-21-2010, 10:49 PM
White Catholic Muslims? Can a Muslim be Catholic?

No, White Catholic Republicans.
Given how worried he is about Muslims on a plane, as you're more likey to be involved in a Republican attack over here than even seeing some Muslims at all.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 11:02 PM
No, White Catholic Republicans.
Given how worried he is about Muslims on a plane, as you're more likey to be involved in a Republican attack over here than even seeing some Muslims at all.

Well, we have tons of White Catholic Republicans but they haven't gone around blowing up airplanes and buildings.....just Muslim fanatics....therefore, we are more prone to look askance at Muslims than WCR. And, we also have tons of Muslims.

Noir
10-21-2010, 11:07 PM
Well, we have tons of White Catholic Republicans but they haven't gone around blowing up airplanes and buildings.....just Muslim fanatics....therefore, we are more prone to look askance at Muslims than WCR. And, we also have tons of Muslims.

Well, republican in the US is not the same as a republican here, and we are not prone to looking suspiciously at WCRs, which is why I find that blokes comments all the more laughable.

SassyLady
10-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Well, republican in the US is not the same as a republican here, and we are not prone to looking suspiciously at WCRs, which is why I find that blokes comments all the more laughable.

Well, Noir, you need to get more in touch with what the majority of American think then....because the majority of us that get on planes on a regular basis are doing our own little racial profiling .... it's called being vigilant. So, if you think he's laughable, then you need to think I'm laughable too.

Kathianne
10-22-2010, 04:34 AM
Well, Noir, you need to get more in touch with what the majority of American think then....because the majority of us that get on planes on a regular basis are doing our own little racial profiling .... it's called being vigilant. So, if you think he's laughable, then you need to think I'm laughable too.

Bottom line is even today Americans in general, whatever label they place on themselves, are much less European than most Europeans think. In general we are more conservative and more driven to individuality, even our poor tend to use the dole in capitalistic ways.

red states rule
10-22-2010, 04:43 AM
Meh, not enough to be fired imo, but if he's serious about getting worried when he sees a Muslim on a plane he's an idiot.

Noir, this shows the double statnds of the left. If Williams would have made the same comment about Christians or Tea Party members NPR would have done nothing

To back this statement up I offer the comments made by Nina Totenberg. She expressed her wish that Jesse Helms children would be infected with aids. NPR did not fire her.

Then we had Bill Moyers after 9/11 compare Republicans to the Taliban. NPR did not fire him in fact they gave him more funding (more tax dollars) and another show.

Totenberg and Moyers did nothing wrong in the eyes of the NPR bigshot lefties. If fact both of them were upholding NPR's journalistic standards.

darin
10-22-2010, 06:22 AM
I have a feeling, Noir, you haven't bothered to read Williams' comments in context.

Noir
10-22-2010, 06:36 AM
Well, Noir, you need to get more in touch with what the majority of American think then....because the majority of us that get on planes on a regular basis are doing our own little racial profiling .... it's called being vigilant. So, if you think he's laughable, then you need to think I'm laughable too.

Well yes I do. Do you think I need to be vigilant every time I walk past a car, or a bin, or everytime I pass a white catholic on the street?
And do you also think I need to be vigilant everytime I get on a bus or a train or a plane with a Muslim on board?


Noir, this shows the double statnds of the left. If Williams would have made the same comment about Christians or Tea Party members NPR would have done nothing

To back this statement up I offer the comments made by Nina Totenberg. She expressed her wish that Jesse Helms children would be infected with aids. NPR did not fire her.

Then we had Bill Moyers after 9/11 compare Republicans to the Taliban. NPR did not fire him in fact they gave him more funding (more tax dollars) and another show.

Totenberg and Moyers did nothing wrong in the eyes of the NPR bigshot lefties. If fact both of them were upholding NPR's journalistic standards.

Yeah, and like I said I don't think the comments were enough to get him fired, though they did make him look a fool imo.


I have a feeling, Noir, you haven't bothered to read Williams' comments in context.

The context being?

The fact is I'm much much more likey to end up killed on injured in an RIRA, CIRA, or ONH attack that any of ya's will in a Muslim one. Therefore if you think it's fine for this bloke to be worried when he sees Muslims on his plane, presumably I should be terrified by White Catholics, right?

Trigg
10-22-2010, 09:35 AM
Now back on topic, I guess that fool who's scared of Muslims on plane would shit some bricks over here, given 99% are white with a fair wack of them being Catholic. He'd also be scared of cars, bins, pizza delivery men and staying in a building overnight...

He's not a fool and he didn't say he was scared of them, he said he gets nervous.

Presumably you can't tell the difference between a catholic or protestant when they're walking down the street. They aren't advertising themselves by their religion.

Now, what if they were. What if the catholics in NI wore certain clothing and they were the only ones blowing things up. When they walked by would you notice them and be on alert? Would it make you nervous if you saw a lone catholic in a predominately protestant area?

Noir
10-22-2010, 09:51 AM
He's not a fool and he didn't say he was scared of them, he said he gets nervous.

Presumably you can't tell the difference between a catholic or protestant when they're walking down the street. They aren't advertising themselves by their religion.

Now, what if they were. What if the catholics in NI wore certain clothing and they were the only ones blowing things up. When they walked by would you notice them and be on alert? Would it make you nervous if you saw a lone catholic in a predominately protestant area?

Scared/nervous, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

And yeah, White Catholic republicans 'uniform' in a shaven head, Celtic t-shirt, republican regalia (sovereign rings, baseball caps with the Irish Flags, even some propaganda tatoos aren't uncommon etc) they like to make themselves obvious.

And no, it wouldn't make me nervous in the slightest, the fact that I live in a middle-class protestant town makes us all the more likey to be targets, but that doesn't mean I assume that anyone who looks like they support the terrorists are terrorists.

Trigg
10-22-2010, 10:10 AM
Scared/nervous, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

And yeah, White Catholic republicans 'uniform' in a shaven head, Celtic t-shirt, republican regalia (sovereign rings, baseball caps with the Irish Flags, even some propaganda tatoos aren't uncommon etc) they like to make themselves obvious.

And no, it wouldn't make me nervous in the slightest, the fact that I live in a middle-class protestant town makes us all the more likey to be targets, but that doesn't mean I assume that anyone who looks like they support the terrorists are terrorists.

well that's a major difference between you and I then. I would certainly be on alert if WCRs were skulking around a protestant area.

I don't consider it foolish to be wary of people who blow shit up.

Noir
10-22-2010, 10:27 AM
well that's a major difference between you and I then. I would certainly be on alert if WCRs were skulking around a protestant area.

I don't consider it foolish to be wary of people who blow shit up.

Why? There are tens of thounands of WCRs, but only 100 or so are active terrorists who plan or carry out attacks.
You may just as well be wary of all men, afterall some of them carry out rapes, right?

Trigg
10-22-2010, 11:38 AM
Why? There are tens of thounands of WCRs, but only 100 or so are active terrorists who plan or carry out attacks.
You may just as well be wary of all men, afterall some of them carry out rapes, right?

If men who had raped or liked to fantasize about it wore signs on them, than yes, I'd be wary of them and avoid them.

I'm careful not to walk alone in isolated areas. I've met people at the door with my hand on our dog. I've not gotten into elevators because I got a "creepy" vibe.

so yes, if I were in NI and a group of WCRs, dressed as you described walked by, I'd be wary of them.

Noir
10-22-2010, 12:00 PM
If men who had raped or liked to fantasize about it wore signs on them, than yes, I'd be wary of them and avoid them.

I'm careful not to walk alone in isolated areas. I've met people at the door with my hand on our dog. I've not gotten into elevators because I got a "creepy" vibe.

so yes, if I were in NI and a group of WCRs, dressed as you described walked by, I'd be wary of them.

Fair enough, maybe we're a bit more desensitized to it, if you'd grown up here you prob wouldnt though.

SassyLady
10-22-2010, 12:07 PM
Fair enough, maybe we're a bit more desensitized to it, if you'd grown up here you prob wouldnt though.

Maybe the difference is that they are not blowing themselves up when they get around a group of people so if they are present, then you are not concerned. Muslim extremists have a tendency to blow themselves up, therefore, when they are acting suspicious, I would be wary of being around them. Just saying......

PS .... if my vigilance keeps me safe and yet laughable in your eyes, I believe it's a good tradeoff.

Noir
10-22-2010, 01:21 PM
Maybe the difference is that they are not blowing themselves up when they get around a group of people so if they are present, then you are not concerned. Muslim extremists have a tendency to blow themselves up, therefore, when they are acting suspicious, I would be wary of being around them. Just saying......

No, they prefer to leave their bombs in cars and bins. So I should we wary around parked cars and bins?


PS .... if my vigilance keeps me safe and yet laughable in your eyes, I believe it's a good tradeoff.

How exactly does being worried on a plane because there's a Muslim on it keep you safe?

Trigg
10-22-2010, 01:37 PM
No, they prefer to leave their bombs in cars and bins. So I should we wary around parked cars and bins?



How exactly does being worried on a plane because there's a Muslim on it keep you safe?

there was a study done around England and the US involving unattended baggage. People in England reported the bags right away, someone here tried to steal the bag. So apparently some people in the UK are wary and pay attention.

Being worried about muslims on planes may not keep you safe, but it might make muslim terrorists think twice about trying to down a plane again since they know people are watching them.

I'm sure you are aware of the recent attempt involving an African muslim. He was subdued by other passengers who had been watching him and thought he was suspicious. His bomb didn't work thank goodness and he only succeeded in burning himself, but it could have turned out differently.

Noir
10-22-2010, 01:46 PM
there was a study done around England and the US involving unattended baggage. People in England reported the bags right away, someone here tried to steal the bag. So apparently some people in the UK are wary and pay attention.

Being worried about muslims on planes may not keep you safe, but it might make muslim terrorists think twice about trying to down a plane again since they know people are watching them.

I'm sure you are aware of the recent attempt involving an African muslim. He was subdued by other passengers who had been watching him and thought he was suspicious. His bomb didn't work thank goodness and he only succeeded in burning himself, but it could have turned out differently.


Well it's only sensable (never mind decent) to report an abandoned bag.

And if some terrorist chickens out of blowing himself up because some people have given him a look or two he shouldn't be in the suicide bombing game. I mean, whats the worst that can happen (from his perspective) he's stopped before he can detonate the bomb and his mission fails or he intentionally fails the mission himself because of some looks...

I just think it's all a bit daft, too many people spend too much time worrying.

And, here's a kicker, if a Muslim Suicde bomber is going to carrying out an attack, maybe he'll go out of his way to not look like a Muslim, no one will ever see him coming,

SassyLady
10-22-2010, 02:00 PM
No, they prefer to leave their bombs in cars and bins. So I should we wary around parked cars and bins?



How exactly does being worried on a plane because there's a Muslim on it keep you safe?

Keep an eye on them to see if they start a fire in their pants?! :laugh:

Noir
10-22-2010, 02:04 PM
Keep an eye on them to see if they start a fire in their pants?! :laugh:

Totally unreliable, given I start fires in other peoples pants ;D

SassyLady
10-22-2010, 02:05 PM
I just think it's all a bit daft, too many people spend too much time worrying.

It's not something we do 24/7 Noir....it's a fleeting assessment of the situation and then one moves on. Which is the point Juan was making. There are just people who are more hyper-vigilant than others. We look, assess, make a little mental checklist about what to do if anything does happen, and then it's filed away. We don't walk blithely along with our heads in the clouds ignoring our surroundings.




And, here's a kicker, if a Muslim Suicde bomber is going to carrying out an attack, maybe he'll go out of his way to not look like a Muslim, no one will ever see him coming,

Yep, have to agree with you on this one. Like using children and/or women.

Kathianne
10-22-2010, 03:04 PM
No, they prefer to leave their bombs in cars and bins. So I should we wary around parked cars and bins?



How exactly does being worried on a plane because there's a Muslim on it keep you safe?

Being aware, keeps one vigilant. No more making missiles out of airliners, wouldn't happen again.

Those first 3 planes on 9/11, were going by the old rules of hijackings. By the 4th, the people knew it wasn't going to Mexico or Cuba.

BoogyMan
10-22-2010, 03:23 PM
Here are a few more (http://forum.brokeroutpost.com/loans/forum/2/280777.htm):

Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
4/14/1972 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
10/31/1999 USA Near Nantucket 217 0 An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2772 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL 1 0 A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC 1 4 A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
10/6/2006 USA Louisville, KY 4 1 In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT 5 4 A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim with 'religious motives' shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers after proclaiming that 'Muslims should stand up and fight."



Let's see Noir, the four hijackings on 9/11, muslims.

The shoe bomber, muslim.

The underwear bomber, muslim.

The four CAIR dudes who wanted to play musical seats and acted suspicious so they could start a law suit, muslim.

The plot to blow up ten plans bound from the UK to the US using liquid explosives, muslims.

That's just off the top of my head, and who knows how many were not in the news.

No you have no need to be concerned. Being politically correct will protect you.

red states rule
10-27-2010, 04:02 AM
http://www.newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/width336/cartoons/NPRdogs.jpg


and here are more comments made by NPR "reporter" Nina Totenberg






NPR's Nina Totenberg: “Now they’ve got this guy [General Jerry Boykin], who’s head of the intelligence section in the Defense Department, who’s being quoted as telling various groups, while he’s in uniform, that this [war] is a Christian crusade against Muslims....I mean, this is terrible, this is seriously bad stuff....I hope he’s not long for this world.”
Host Gordon Peterson: “You putting a hit out on this guy or what?...What is this, The Sopranos?”
Totenberg: “No, no, no....In his job, in his job, in his job, please, please, in his job.” – Exchange on Inside Washington, October 18, 2003.


"It seems to me that the modern Republican Party and its moderate wing are in a sort of, to use the psychobabble of the era, in an abusive relationship...and the moderates are the enablers and the conservatives are the abusers and they just got used to doing it that way and suddenly one member said, ‘I’m not going to take it anymore.’" – NPR’s Nina Totenberg on the defection of Senator Jim Jeffords, May 26, 2001 Inside Washington.


"Didn’t I say to you that we are marching off the cliff? Reason tells you we should stop this and get on with the business of governance. But there is precious little. I mean, I spent most of today and yesterday half on the phone while I was covering this thing, with Senators Republican and Democratic, and at the moment everybody’s fondest hope is that the two-week hiatus, between now and the new year, in that period impeachment will sink in and sanity will prevail and we’ll avoid a trial. But there are a lot of people that don’t want that to happen." -- NPR's Nina Totenberg, December 19, 1998 Inside Washington, the day of the House vote.


Host Tina Gulland: "Are we agreed generally that it was a plus week for Clinton in the sense that he was viewed as presidential and in charge of foreign policy?"

ABC and NPR reporter Nina Totenberg: "He was there in the middle of the desert. I mean, it was biblical!" -- Exchange on Inside Washington about Clinton's Middle East trip, October 29, 1994.

Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/26/totenberg-regrets-helms-aids-remark-i-havent-said-anything-stupid-15-yea#ixzz13Y22DvY3

SpidermanTUba
10-27-2010, 11:16 AM
Usually I enjoy watching liberals fall vivtim to their own liberalism, but is this case.

Juan Williams is a liberal, but not the usual fire breathing hate sprewing libs we usually see on TV (like at MSNBC)

What Mr Williams said was not racist, and it shows how thin skinned and defensive the left is these days

Judge for yourself, click the link, and watch the video

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/21/npr_fires_juan_williams_after_muslim_remarks_.html




Please reconcile these two facts:

1) NPR is a liberal conspiracy
2) NPR fired a liberal

thanks.

SpidermanTUba
10-27-2010, 11:18 AM
It's Sullivan who's being bigoted here, in fact, assuming that I will think a certain thing based on someone's color and dress.

I fail to see where that assumption is made.

Trigg
10-27-2010, 01:59 PM
Please reconcile these two facts:

1) NPR is a liberal conspiracy
2) NPR fired a liberal

thanks.

He considers himself a liberal. After watching MSNBC's take on this issue though, apparently many consider him to conservative. They also hate that he's on FOX as much as he is.

Other than smarmy remarks, what is your take on his firing? Did he deserve it?

red states rule
10-31-2010, 07:20 AM
NPR's USSC "reporter" (and Newswek "reporter" Evan Thomas) continues to give her opinion, and nothing happens to her





NPR's Nina Totenberg said Friday that she's very afraid of the upcoming elections.

Newsweek's Evan Thomas, her co-panelist on "Inside Washington," said historians might look upon November 2, 2010 "as kind of a joke...obviously the political system’s a mess"

GORDON PETERSON: Nina, columnist Paul Krugman says if the election goes as expected, his advice is be afraid, be very afraid. Should we take his advice?

NINA TOTENBERG, NPR: I am already afraid, very afraid. I mean, it’s not like governance has been going great. I think we’ll, I don't know whether I should be afraid, but there will be gridlock.

PETERSON: Evan, Krugman also says that future historians will probably look back at the 2010 election as a catastrophe for America. You are a historian. You agree with that?

EVAN THOMAS, NEWSWEEK: No, but they might look on it as kind of a joke. There is sort of a circus aspect to it that people, it’s become comic and a kind of a dark way. You know, Krugman is a professional doomsayer. So, you have to take that with a grain of salt. But obviously the political system’s a mess.

Isn't it amazing how these same people that were thrilled by the idea of America electing as president a junior senator from Illinois with little qualifications for the most important office in the land are now scared to death about who may be going to Congress next January?

Oozes with hypocrisy, doesn't it?

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/10/30/totenbergs-very-afraid-these-elections-thomas-thinks-theyre-jokepolit

red states rule
10-31-2010, 07:22 AM
Please reconcile these two facts:

1) NPR is a liberal conspiracy
2) NPR fired a liberal

thanks.

NPR fired a liberal for appreaing on Fox news, and giving his opinion on a protected group - Muslims

NPR has not taken any actions against other liberals for giving their opinions. Then again, those opinions expressed are attacking conservatives, the Tea Party, and the political opponets of Obama

Those opinions are fine with the liberal heads at NPR

red states rule
11-01-2010, 03:57 AM
http://www.newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/width336/cartoons/asay_chuck2010_1029.gif

fj1200
11-01-2010, 07:37 AM
Please reconcile these two facts:

1) NPR is a liberal conspiracy

Please expand on NPR being a liberal conspiracy, I'm very interested on hearing your views on this.


In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.

Who is behind the conspiracy? What law are they intending to break? So many questions, thank you for bringing this to our attention.