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Little-Acorn
09-29-2010, 12:43 PM
Found on another board.

This is sometimes attributed to Dr. David Kaiser, an author and professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College. Others attribute it to other writers.

Regardless, the actual content is interesting... and disturbing.

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History Unfolding

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world.. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ..... change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

So read your history books.. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser
Jamestown, Rhode Island
United States

Gaffer
09-29-2010, 01:13 PM
Excellent, gotta spread the rep. The other scary thing is history is repeating itself in the most powerful country in the world.

revelarts
09-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Isn't what I wrote in the other thread confirmation of what the man wrote.

"...Without any oversight or the ability to review or question them American Presidents Have the right to
wire tap,
sneak and peak,
kidnap,
torture,
imprison and or
Kill
any suspected "terrorist" (citizen or none citizen)
in secret
anywhere in the world
at any time...."


Does that sound like any Germany leader? Did he even have that much authority?

It was brought in by Bush and now continued and strengthened by Obama. Will voting republican stop the abuse of power?

It was the economy and Reichstag fire by "Terrorist" that paved the way to give the Chancellor dictatorial powers in the homeland... uh I mean der Fatherland.

Kathianne
09-29-2010, 04:24 PM
Isn't what I wrote in the other thread confirmation of what the man wrote.

"...Without any oversight or the ability to review or question them American Presidents Have the right to
wire tap,
sneak and peak,
kidnap,
torture,
imprison and or
Kill
any suspected "terrorist" (citizen or none citizen)
in secret
anywhere in the world
at any time...."


Does that sound like any Germany leader? Did he even have that much authority?

It was brought in by Bush and now continued and strengthened by Obama. Will voting republican stop the abuse of power?

It was the economy and Reichstag fire by "Terrorist" that paved the way to give the Chancellor dictatorial powers in the homeland... uh I mean der Fatherland.

Nope, you like Hitler hope to piggy back on those that actually want a better country. You might want to do a global search for Pale Rider or William Joyce, either of them you will feel very comfortable with I'm sure.

revelarts
09-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Nope, you like Hitler hope to piggy back on those that actually want a better country. You might want to do a global search for Pale Rider or William Joyce, either of them you will feel very comfortable with I'm sure.

so....
American Presidents Without any oversight or the ability to review or question them Have the right to
wire tap,
sneak and peak,
kidnap,
torture,
imprison and or
Kill
any suspected "terrorist" (citizen or none citizen)
in secret
anywhere in the world
at any time...."

makes for a better country ??


the Germany people thought so too.

Gaffer
09-29-2010, 04:45 PM
Isn't what I wrote in the other thread confirmation of what the man wrote.

"...Without any oversight or the ability to review or question them American Presidents Have the right to
wire tap,
sneak and peak,
kidnap,
torture,
imprison and or
Kill
any suspected "terrorist" (citizen or none citizen)
in secret
anywhere in the world
at any time...."


Does that sound like any Germany leader? Did he even have that much authority?

It was brought in by Bush and now continued and strengthened by Obama. Will voting republican stop the abuse of power?

It was the economy and Reichstag fire by "Terrorist" that paved the way to give the Chancellor dictatorial powers in the homeland... uh I mean der Fatherland.

But your more worried about arab killers being treated well and their nonexistent constitutional rights. Monitoring calls to and from foreign nationals, miranda rights for combatants on a battle field.

Will voting other than republican change anything?

The man's in position, he has the power, all he needs is the right terrorist action to declare martial law. Just maybe one of those methods your so against will alert someone and allow an action to be stopped. Bet the dark lord would be disappointed if that happened.

revelarts
09-29-2010, 04:56 PM
Sounds like you the trust the furr.. I mean leader, that is, President to do what's right and only use his god like powers to stop the Commies and Jew.... I mean Muslim extremist.

Kathianne
09-29-2010, 05:01 PM
relevarts, like his ideal candidate, Ron Paul, believe that Hitler got the Final Solution right.

Unlike Hitler, Relevarts and Ron Paul wish to go further, yes even beyond those in the Milky Way and beyond.

revelarts
09-29-2010, 06:54 PM
What are you talking about Kathianne?
your not making sense at all.

if your trying to bring up that thing about racism, I think you know me well enough by now to know that I'm against that 100%. And I'm not going to defend Dr. Paul anymore on that , only to say, Show me some racism in his votes and speeches. Then maybe I'll believe it. But the idea that he's a Crypto racist isn't going to fly.


however
Hitler never wanted to live by the constitution of his country. That's more like what both the republicans and democrats are like now. The German constitution wouldn't allow Germany to be as STRONG as it could be.
Both U.S. parties think our constitution is to restrictive, and leaves the people vulnerable and not protected by a strong virile and/or motherly gov't..

Gaffer
09-30-2010, 09:43 AM
Sounds like you the trust the furr.. I mean leader, that is, President to do what's right and only use his god like powers to stop the Commies and Jew.... I mean Muslim extremist.

You don't pay much attention to my posting in that past apparently. I always refer to the president as the dark lord. My lack of respect for him is very clear. And I fully expect anything he can get away with he will do. But we are dealing with two groups here. One is the dark lord and his minions trying to control everything. The other is the regular working government joe's doing their best to keep America safe. They do this in spite of the dark lord.

The president needs oversight. Congress is suppose to do that, they have failed miserably. The media is suppose to watch everybody. They have failed miserably. The supreme court is nothing but a joke.

We have a war going on with an insidious enemy who has agents right here in our home country. They have to be dealt with and harshly. The current administration isn't doing that.

There is a plot that's on going in europe for a india style attack in many major cities. It's a major al quaeda operation. How do they know, they tapped the phones. They are monitoring wireless communication. If they can bust it up before it gets off the ground that's a good thing. Of course people like you will argue they violated the terrorists right to privacy. While I say, so what? If you and your family are caught in the cross fire you will be the first to scream, why weren't they stopped. And the answer would be, we didn't want to do anything unconstitutional.

Tying the hands of the guys actually doing the investigating will allow acts of terrorism to take place. Something I'm sure would please the dark lord no end because the worse the attack the easier it is for him to take full control as a full fledged dictator. And your screaming about torture and rights is just what he wants to support his actions.