Fla. city denies permit for 9/11 Quran burning

[LiberalNation]

Good for the city.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_us/us_church_sept11_quran_burning

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – Officials in a Florida city have denied a burn permit for a church that is seeking to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11.

Interim Fire Chief Gene Prince said Wednesday that the open burning of books is not allowed under Gainesville's burning ordinance.

The Dove World Outreach Center drew international attention after announcing a plan to burn copies of the Islamic holy text on church grounds to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Prince says the church will be fined if the burning is held.

In an e-mail sent out Wednesday, the church said, "City of Gainesville denies burn permit — BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS."

The Gainesville church made headlines last year after distributing T-shirts that said, "Islam is of the Devil."

[Mr. P]

Good for the city.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_us/us_church_sept11_quran_burning

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – Officials in a Florida city have denied a burn permit for a church that is seeking to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11.

Interim Fire Chief Gene Prince said Wednesday that the open burning of books is not allowed under Gainesville's burning ordinance.

The Dove World Outreach Center drew international attention after announcing a plan to burn copies of the Islamic holy text on church grounds to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Prince says the church will be fined if the burning is held.

In an e-mail sent out Wednesday, the church said, "City of Gainesville denies burn permit — BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS."

The Gainesville church made headlines last year after distributing T-shirts that said, "Islam is of the Devil."
I'll bet ya don't need a permit to burn the U.S. Flag.

[DragonStryk72]

Good for the city.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_us/us_church_sept11_quran_burning

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – Officials in a Florida city have denied a burn permit for a church that is seeking to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11.

Interim Fire Chief Gene Prince said Wednesday that the open burning of books is not allowed under Gainesville's burning ordinance.

The Dove World Outreach Center drew international attention after announcing a plan to burn copies of the Islamic holy text on church grounds to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Prince says the church will be fined if the burning is held.

In an e-mail sent out Wednesday, the church said, "City of Gainesville denies burn permit — BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS."

The Gainesville church made headlines last year after distributing T-shirts that said, "Islam is of the Devil."

As my christian apologetic teacher said, "You cannot hate as a Christian. If you are doing anything with hate in it, you are acting in an un-Christian manner."

Further, I am against the burning of any religious text, or book in general. Their is speech contained in those books, and to silence that speech through burning seems inherently wrong, and against the founding principals.

A flag is the symbol of the country it stands for, and as such, burning it can be a symbol of revolution against such government, or a sign that the ideals of said government are dissolving or dissolved, burning away all that made that country good.

[Mr. P]

As my christian apologetic teacher said, "You cannot hate as a Christian. If you are doing anything with hate in it, you are acting in an un-Christian manner."

Further, I am against the burning of any religious text, or book in general. Their is speech contained in those books, and to silence that speech through burning seems inherently wrong, and against the founding principals.

A flag is the symbol of the country it stands for, and as such, burning it can be a symbol of revolution against such government, or a sign that the ideals of said government are dissolving or dissolved, burning away all that made that country good.
My point was not why flags or books are burned but the issue of a burn permit.

[Noir]

idk why people get so worked up about buring things, 'OMG they're burning some wood/cloth/paper that I have artificaly attached significance to :shock:'

As someone once said, leave symbols to the symbol-minded, and move on.

[darin]

That church is lead by assholes. Embarrassing.

[Nukeman]

I have to say on the surface this seems like a clear cut case of hate from a Christian church!!! I would pose the question of what happens to all the bibles that are confiscated at the borders of SA and Iran?? Are the nicely thrown on the garbage heap or are they burned???

Just a simple question!!!!

[darin]

Goes beyond hate...it's a clear case of a pastor w/ his head up his ass. If he'd spend more time reading HIS book, he'd clearly not want to taunt people like he's doing.

[Nukeman]

Goes beyond hate...it's a clear case of a pastor w/ his head up his ass. If he'd spend more time reading HIS book, he'd clearly not want to taunt people like he's doing.

Ohh don't get me wrong I agree that he is off his meds or something.. I just felt the need to point out that everyone is supposed to be tolerant of Islam yet it is never tolerant of others

[Kathianne]

Ohh don't get me wrong I agree that he is off his meds or something.. I just felt the need to point out that everyone is supposed to be tolerant of Islam yet it is never tolerant of others

I agree that the pastor and his 'flock' are bonkers. I'd also agree that they don't sound Christian. However, if flag burning, Piss Christ, KKK marching, etc., are all examples of free speech, seems this should pass muster also. ACLU fought for the rights of KKK.

[namvet]

I though most most copies of the Quran were sent to DC. where their needed the most


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[LiberalNation]

My point was not why flags or books are burned but the issue of a burn permit.

I'm assuming if they need a burn permit for this they would need a permit for whatever else they might want to burn.

[HogTrash]

As my christian apologetic teacher said, "You cannot hate as a Christian. If you are doing anything with hate in it, you are acting in an un-Christian manner."

Further, I am against the burning of any religious text, or book in general. Their is speech contained in those books, and to silence that speech through burning seems inherently wrong, and against the founding principals.

A flag is the symbol of the country it stands for, and as such, burning it can be a symbol of revolution against such government, or a sign that the ideals of said government are dissolving or dissolved, burning away all that made that country good.The burning of the Quran is not a display of hate, but a protest of hate.

The Quran is not a "religious text"...It is a manifesto of hate, oppression and terrorism.

[Missileman]

The burning of the Quran is not a display of hate, but a protest of hate.

The Quran is not a "religious text"...It is a manifesto of hate, oppression and terrorism.

LOL...the Quran is just as much a religious text as the Bible.

[darin]

...and who cares what a text contains...burning books is so....17th century....OR....21st Century USA if the current fascist/socialists remain in power.

[Kathianne]

LOL...the Quran is just as much a religious text as the Bible.

And one cannot burn Bibles?

[pete311]

anyone can burn a book, the gov just doesn't want it organized by a church and the church is bound by the gov, or bye bye special tax status

[darin]

anyone can burn a book, the gov just doesn't want it organized by a church and the church is bound by the gov, or bye bye special tax status

...uh...are you even trying to make sense? This was about the 'fire' permit...from the city's perspective. Nothing else.

[namvet]

it is illegal to burn the Quran. if you wanna keep your head

[Noir]

anyone can burn a book, the gov just doesn't want it organized by a church and the church is bound by the gov, or bye bye special tax status

What difference does it make who organizes it?

[Sweetchuck]

anyone can burn a book, the gov just doesn't want it organized by a church and the church is bound by the gov, or bye bye special tax status

That's not accurate.

The IRS doesn't want tax exempt organizations using the tax exempt funds they generate for certain purposes like a tax-free vehicle for owners or officers and for lobbying purposes.

I do tax work for a couple of charities that I donate my time to. They can burn all of the fucking Korans, flags, barbie dolls (burn burn, burn all your barbies), bibles or whatever they want.

... subject to local open burning ordinances of course.

[Sweetchuck]

it is illegal to burn the Quran. if you wanna keep your head

And that is yet another victory for radical Islam and yet another loss for our freedom.

When the creators of South Park are censored because they want to run an episode of Muhammad shitting all over the place (but it's ok to substitute Jesus and GW shitting all over the screen), then we have lost this battle.

... not that I need to see anyone shitting on TV, but it's South Park and I think you understand my point. We should vigorously defend ANYONE'S right to express themselves freely. Liberals shat the bed when GW came out with the Patriot Act. Where are they now?

[Missileman]

And one cannot burn Bibles?

That's not what my post was about.

As to the burning of books, it's an act of desperation and fear, and there's no good motive for it.

[darin]

That's not what my post was about.

As to the burning of books, it's an act of desperation and fear, and there's no good motive for it.

..it's childish...immature...a sign the burner has serious mental issues, IMO.

[PostmodernProphet]

Ohh don't get me wrong I agree that he is off his meds or something.. I just felt the need to point out that everyone is supposed to be tolerant of Islam yet it is never tolerant of others

sort of goes with the territory.....we've chosen to have freedom....I kind'a like it.....

[bullypulpit]

I have to say on the surface this seems like a clear cut case of hate from a Christian church!!! I would pose the question of what happens to all the bibles that are confiscated at the borders of SA and Iran?? Are the nicely thrown on the garbage heap or are they burned???

Just a simple question!!!!

Which has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Any society which touts itself as being a free and open society, as America does, should be appalled at the systematic gathering of books...be they the Quran, the Bible, the Talmud, or any book which offends the sensibilities of some easily offended group. Book burning is both the symbolic, and literal, death of intellectual freedom. It is a society drawing in upon itself from fear of the outsider...the new...the different. It is the beginning of a society destined to do no more than wallow in the cesspool of its own fears, prejudices and bigotry.

Nazi Germany...Stalinist Russia...Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge...Maoist China...North Korea, and many, many more. History has shown us the bloody trail that so simple an act as burning a few books one finds offensive will lead us down.

[darin]

^^^A free and open society must also support the freedom to burn stuff like that, too. Can't have it both ways.

[Nukeman]

Which has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Any society which touts itself as being a free and open society,

Nazi Germany...Stalinist Russia...Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge...Maoist China...North Korea, and many, many more. History has shown us the bloody trail that so simple an act as burning a few books one finds offensive will lead us down.But Bully your confusing an act of protest with a GOVERNMENT sanctioned and sponserd act. Big difference in a church burning a book and the state of Florida deciding to burn them..

I feel my question is very pertinent to this conversation, how is it that some can fain outrage at the burning of "their" book but are all for the burning of someone elses????

This fake outrage by the Islamic faith is quite tiresome at best......

[darin]

Don't forget...Muslims start killing people and looting/rioting when somebody does something they don't like...Christians pretty much just sit there and take it.

[HogTrash]

LOL...the Quran is just as much a religious text as the Bible.Maybe you're right, but sometimes it's just so damn hard to tell with all the hate, murder, terrorism and abuse of women that is commited in the name of Islam.

If the good muslims really do outnumber the bad, maybe they should be showing a little more outrage over the attrocities that are commited in the name of their religion.

[Agnapostate]

The Quran is not a "religious text"...It is a manifesto of hate, oppression and terrorism.

There certainly are some unpleasant passages in there.


If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you.

Oh, wait...


Maybe you're right, but sometimes it's just so damn hard to tell with all the hate, murder, terrorism and abuse of women that is commited in the name of Islam.

If the good muslims really do outnumber the bad, maybe they should be showing a little more outrage over the attrocities that are commited in the name of their religion.

With the U.S. government providing unconditional financial and military support to the Israeli government even as they maintain the Gaza ghetto and continue to endorse destruction of West Bank communities, I'd be content to see some reciprocation if I were a Muslim too, particularly an Arab Muslim. To see an international financial symbol in the U.S. destroyed and the chief hub of military operations wounded must have been emotionally satisfying, from their perspective.

[bullypulpit]

But Bully your confusing an act of protest with a GOVERNMENT sanctioned and sponserd act. Big difference in a church burning a book and the state of Florida deciding to burn them..

I feel my question is very pertinent to this conversation, how is it that some can fain outrage at the burning of "their" book but are all for the burning of someone elses????

This fake outrage by the Islamic faith is quite tiresome at best......

Umm...That's how it started in all those places I mentioned. Some wild eyed ideologue decides that (s)he is offended by the contents of a book(s) and decides to have them purged. Bonfire ensues. No government sponsorship or sanction needed. Just stupidity coupled with unfocused fear and anger.

[DragonStryk72]

My point was not why flags or books are burned but the issue of a burn permit.

Well, like I said, different contexts. Burning the flag can be a point of expression, where book burnings silence expression. As well, the state is likely hoping that the whole thing will die down, and thanks to the power of the internet, can you imagine the reaming they'd have taken had they allowed it?

[DragonStryk72]

And that is yet another victory for radical Islam and yet another loss for our freedom.

When the creators of South Park are censored because they want to run an episode of Muhammad shitting all over the place (but it's ok to substitute Jesus and GW shitting all over the screen), then we have lost this battle.

... not that I need to see anyone shitting on TV, but it's South Park and I think you understand my point. We should vigorously defend ANYONE'S right to express themselves freely. Liberals shat the bed when GW came out with the Patriot Act. Where are they now?

Getting behind Obama's backing of the Patriot Act.

[Noir]

Seems like it's still going ahead...


The top US commander in Afghanistan warned troops' lives would be in danger if the Dove World Outreach Center in Florida went ahead.

And the US Attorney General, Eric Holder, says the church's plan is "idiotic and dangerous".

Muslim countries, the US government and Nato have also hit out at the plan.

But organiser, Pastor Terry Jones said: "We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam."

Paul Adams
BBC News, Washington
The Dove World Outreach Center may only represent a handful of people, but its incendiary plans haven't emerged out of nowhere.

The role of Islam in America has become a hot button issue with social and political implications.

While most Americans would probably take issue with exhortations to burn the Koran, there is clearly widespread concern about the influence of Islam.

Protests over the planned location of an Islamic centre close to Ground Zero in New York, and similar controversy in Murfreesboro, Tennessee have highlighted popular anxiety about Islam in America.

Earlier this year, an opinion poll found that 53% of Americans view Islam unfavourably, with only 42% viewing the religion favourably.

Despite having a congregation of just 50, the plans of the church in Gainesville have gained worldwide notoriety, sparking demonstrations in Afghanistan and Indonesia.

Gen David Petraeus, the top US commander in Afghanistan, said on Monday that the action could cause problems "not just in Kabul, but everywhere in the world".

"It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems," he said in a statement.

I hadn't thought about the implications as a Taliban PR tool, but I guess that's something these church folk are will to accept, even if the troops over their may not...

[PostmodernProphet]

relevant but ignored news.....this month 299,999 Christian churches will not burn a copy of the Koran......

[Sweetchuck]

So much for freedom of speech.

Chalk up another victory for radical Islam and selective liberalism.

[Nukeman]

Umm...That's how it started in all those places I mentioned. Some wild eyed ideologue decides that (s)he is offended by the contents of a book(s) and decides to have them purged. Bonfire ensues. No government sponsorship or sanction needed. Just stupidity coupled with unfocused fear and anger.
So Bully how do you respond to the fact that thousands of muslims are demonstrating and calling for "death to America" on the IDEA of some fringe element may burn a Koran.

I love how we are to seperate out the "Islamic extremist" yet they lump all Americans in together...

Once again I will point out the SILENT majority of Muslims!!! Where is their support for this pastor to burn the Koran in a truely FREE society.....

I don't think this pastor has "unfocused fear and anger" I think he is very focused. He is focused on a very specific element. After all the only ones that should be calling for "death of Americans" are the extremist right???


According to news reports, the Obama administration is ‘concerned’ about a planned September 11 Koran burning by the Dove World Outreach Centre, in Gainesville, Florida, by Pastor Terry Jones. Koran burning, apparently a far more controversial than Saudi Arabia confiscating Bibles and arresting individuals who have more than one Bible with a penalty which could mean jail time or a public lashing.

What happens to the Bibles confiscated by the Saudi government?

According to sources, the Bibles are shredded. People caught inside Saudi Arabia who have more than one Bible, arrested. The penalty, lashing. Saudi Arabia ruled by Shariah law, laws based on the interpretation of the Koran. The outrage from the Obama administration on the issue of the Saudi government confiscating Bibles owned by Christians, people arrested then sentenced to a public lashing: Zero, zilch, nada.

From the U.S. Department of State website on traveling in Saudi Arabia:

Saudi authorities do not permit criticism of Islam or the royal family. The government prohibits the public practice of religions other than Islam. Non-Muslims suspected of violating these restrictions have been jailed. Homosexual activity is considered to be a criminal offense and those convicted may be sentenced to lashing, prison, or death.

[bullypulpit]

Seems like it's still going ahead...



I hadn't thought about the implications as a Taliban PR tool, but I guess that's something these church folk are will to accept, even if the troops over their may not...

And one has to wonder where all the Republicans are whose mantra, when it was politically advantageous, was "Listen to the generals on the ground...". Where are they now when THE general on the ground is weighing in against this PR stunt conducted by a illiterate boob.

[Kathianne]

I respect General Petraeus, I think the Koran burning church is probably made up and led by whack jobs. Then again, I think that building the 9/11 Mosque at the location is also in poor taste. Can't protect the rights of one whack group, without the other. Well maybe under Holder, but then again...

[PostmodernProphet]

And one has to wonder where all the Republicans are whose mantra, when it was politically advantageous, was "Listen to the generals on the ground...". Where are they now when THE general on the ground is weighing in against this PR stunt conducted by a illiterate boob.

we have a general on the ground in Florida?......

[Noir]

relevant but ignored news.....this month 299,999 Christian churches will not burn a copy of the Koran......

In other relevant but ignored news...Bear uses wooded area as a toliet, pope suspected of having Catholic tendencies. Etceter.

[bullypulpit]

I respect General Petraeus, I think the Koran burning church is probably made up and led by whack jobs. Then again, I think that building the 9/11 Mosque at the location is also in poor taste. Can't protect the rights of one whack group, without the other. Well maybe under Holder, but then again...

Firstly, it's not a mosque, it's an Islamic center with a prayer room. Secondly, there are already mosques that are a part of the "Ground Zero" neighborhood. Thirdly, there's a chapel for Muslims in the PENTAGON. Finally, the whole issue of a "mosque" near Ground Zero is a non-issue...Just another episode of "Scaring White People for Fun and Profit".

[bullypulpit]

we have a general on the ground in Florida?......

Don't play dumb...yer not. Ignorant, yes, even willfully so. Dumb, no.

[Kathianne]

Firstly, it's not a mosque, it's an Islamic center with a prayer room. Secondly, there are already mosques that are a part of the "Ground Zero" neighborhood. Thirdly, there's a chapel for Muslims in the PENTAGON. Finally, the whole issue of a "mosque" near Ground Zero is a non-issue...Just another episode of "Scaring White People for Fun and Profit".

Having a problem with cognitive dissonance Bully? The right to burn symbols is firmly established, as in the main that it's ignorant folks that do such.

Call the 9/11 by any other name, it is what it is. If they control the property, they have the right to build what they want, Kelo not getting in the way of mosque building of course.

[PostmodernProphet]

Don't play dumb...yer not. Ignorant, yes, even willfully so. Dumb, no.

pointing out your argument is dumb is not dumb....tell me which general has the authority to make this church stop what it intends to do......or which Republican party official.....or which church denomination.....or which anybody.......if the Muslims are up in arms about this being done they need to at least be intelligent enough to realize that there is nobody to be angry against except the people who light the fire....after all, they can always put them on a hit list like they did the Danish cartoonists.....

[jimnyc]

Funny how the liberals want to defend the ability to burn the American Flag, but take issue with someone burning the Quran.

[Alias.258]

Here is some information that i ran across in stuff i subscribed to. All articles on the burning...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6864BW20100908

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68638K20100907?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r4:c 0.059553:b37143514:z0

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6851V220100906?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsearly

http://www.military.com/news/article/petraeus-burning-quran-endangers-troops.html

Not entirely sure its necessary to read all of them. But I only got a chance to skim them, I'm supposed to be working.

[Pagan]

Funny how the liberals want to defend the ability to burn the American Flag, but take issue with someone burning the Quran.

If they want to burn the Qur'an, let them go outside the city limits and burn the bloody thing. Who give's a shit about a bunch of ignorant religious zealots burning books. It's not the first book BBQ by a bunch of ignorant sheep and it sure won't be the last.

As with burning the flag, I tell you what. If someone ESPECIALLY one who is a Vet decides that burning the flag would get their point across, they've EARNED that right. No one especially piece of shit whore politicians or Arm Chair Generals who have never sacrificed a thing can shove it up their collective ass's.

[jimnyc]

If they want to burn the Qur'an, let them go outside the city limits and burn the bloody thing. Who give's a shit about a bunch of ignorant religious zealots burning books. It's not the first book BBQ by a bunch of ignorant sheep and it sure won't be the last.

As with burning the flag, I tell you what. If someone ESPECIALLY one who is a Vet decides that burning the flag would get their point across, they've EARNED that right. No one especially piece of shit whore politicians or Arm Chair Generals who have never sacrificed a thing can shove it up their collective ass's.

The OP of this thread is a believer in burning the American Flag, and then states it was good that the city shut down those wanting to burn the Quran. And she is not alone in her opinion that burning the flag is AOK, and some even say it is "patriotic" to do so and it's their right to protest. Now those very same liberals that stood firmly on the burning of the flag, based on constitution rights (freedom of speech), want to scream from the mountains about how it's so wrong to burn the Quran. And worse, they say so because they feel it would be "insulting".

The fact that liberals are quick to defend the rights of Muslims not to be insulted, and yet don't give a shit what Americans feel about the burning of Her Flag, simply amazes me.

[Pagan]

The OP of this thread is a believer in burning the American Flag, and then states it was good that the city shut down those wanting to burn the Quran. And she is not alone in her opinion that burning the flag is AOK, and some even say it is "patriotic" to do so and it's their right to protest. Now those very same liberals that stood firmly on the burning of the flag, based on constitution rights (freedom of speech), want to scream from the mountains about how it's so wrong to burn the Quran. And worse, they say so because they feel it would be "insulting".

The fact that liberals are quick to defend the rights of Muslims not to be insulted, and yet don't give a shit what Americans feel about the burning of Her Flag, simply amazes me.

Both sides are complete hypocrites and are only interested in ramming down everyone else's throat their morals and beliefs, it's the "Herd" mentality.

Yes as much as it offends me and down right pisses me off to see someone burning the flag I get just as pissed when I see the Sheep burning books. But again that's their choice and I will do everything in my power to defend their right to be ignorant sheep and morons.

[PostmodernProphet]

Who give's a shit about a bunch of ignorant religious zealots burning books.

judging by the news coverage, about 85% of America and a similar segment of the rest of the world.....

[Pagan]

judging by the news coverage, about 85% of America and a similar segment of the rest of the world.....

Such is life of the Herd

[Mr. P]

judging by the news coverage, about 85% of America and a similar segment of the rest of the world.....
Damn I'm glad we don't live in a democracy. So far, the Constitution is holding up.

[Alias.258]

Here is some information that i ran across in stuff i subscribed to. All articles on the burning...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6864BW20100908

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68638K20100907?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r4:c 0.059553:b37143514:z0

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6851V220100906?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsearly

http://www.military.com/news/article/petraeus-burning-quran-endangers-troops.html

Not entirely sure its necessary to read all of them. But I only got a chance to skim them, I'm supposed to be working.

Id like to add this one to the list http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68709M20100908
Just more information but it also has a video. It only showed up in the feed now so i couldn't post it earlier with the others.
I do agree with the fact that this most likely would do more harm than good. I understand the anger, but this probably isn't the smartest way of projecting it. Im not saying they don't have the right. But i just don't think its a great idea.

[Gaffer]

They need to say its canceled and let the media go on their way and have their quiet little book burning on the sly. Making a public spectacle of it just stirs up the nut jobs in the middle east and puts our troops in more danger.

[Alias.258]

If you watch the video in the link and look at how many microphones were in-front of the guy when he was talking. There is a lot of coverage excluding the reporters for the papers that were in the background with their recorders taking notes. So the media coverage is consistent, and i think that's what this guy wants. Hes not exactly thinking about the troops that will have to deal with the new resolve to fight that will be formed by this event. Notice in the background of the video, the huge print saying "International Burn a Koran Day". I can't see this in any way shape or form doing any good.
There is an article with a photo of it here: http://www.military.com/news/article/church-leader-rebuffs-quran-burn-critics.html

PS: Sorry about the articles being spread out. I am seem to be having trouble with my RSS feeds right now.

[Gaffer]

When they declare war on islam and actually start bombing the piss out of the middle east and declare islam illegal throughout the world they can have a international burn the koran day. Otherwise all they are doing is kicking a hornets nest in an open field with their shoe laces tied together.

[Abbey Marie]

The OP of this thread is a believer in burning the American Flag, and then states it was good that the city shut down those wanting to burn the Quran. And she is not alone in her opinion that burning the flag is AOK, and some even say it is "patriotic" to do so and it's their right to protest. Now those very same liberals that stood firmly on the burning of the flag, based on constitution rights (freedom of speech), want to scream from the mountains about how it's so wrong to burn the Quran. And worse, they say so because they feel it would be "insulting".

The fact that liberals are quick to defend the rights of Muslims not to be insulted, and yet don't give a shit what Americans feel about the burning of Her Flag, simply amazes me.

:clap:

[Noir]

The fact that liberals are quick to defend the rights of Muslims not to be insulted, and yet don't give a shit what Americans feel about the burning of Her Flag, simply amazes me.

That would be "some liberals".

[jimnyc]

That would be "some liberals".

I stand corrected. I shouldn't have painted with such a wide brush. :)

[Alias.258]

Remember when i said tons of media. Those articles i posted yesterday were for either from yesterday or the day before. This morning in my inbox, theses two were included. I think by now we know what is going to be said in these articles. But here they are anyways.

Obama Speaks (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68820G20100909?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsearly)

Obama Again (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68709M20100909?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsearly)

These were posted in the related articles:

State Department Warns (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68846R20100909)

Interpol Warns (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6883LP20100909)

Vatican Condemns (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68722Q20100908)

German Jews Condemn (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6872OM20100908)

The list went on but these were the ones that stood out. As for reading more articles. I refuse to read more than the preview of the said Articles on the subject until the event happens. As i have had up to my neck with the media coverage. If you don't want to read those. Pretty much the summary of them is just that its going to lead to absolutely no good, and that a majority of the world is opposed to it.

[Gaffer]

If the media didn't cover it, no one would know or care about it. It's being blown out of proportion by the media on purpose.

[Pagan]

If the media didn't cover it, no one would know or care about it. It's being blown out of proportion by the media on purpose.

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[Alias.258]

So i wake up again and check my news letters. And there was an article on a protester in Afghanistan getting shot. Actually not being the same as the others i read it and found it too incomplete to post here. But this one has that information and more:

Protester Shot (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68709M20100910?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r1:c 0.134328:b37217774:z0)

And this one was related and i read the preview and it was interesting.
The Church's web host pulls the plug on their site:

Rackspace Hosting Removes Site (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68856620100909?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r2:c 0.119403:b37217774:z0)

I know im going back on my word when i said i wasn't going to read on the subject until it happened. But these articles had a greater amount of new information than the others. Plus i was able to just read a preview of it to see if it was worth reading.

[red states rule]

Over at DNCTV guess who they are blaming for the guy wanting to hold the bonfire?

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