Defiant Brit struts through Dubai mall in a bikini

[chloe]

Police said the British woman, whose name was not released, was shopping in the five-star Dubai Mall when the Emirati woman approached her and criticized her for wearing a shirt she felt violated the conservative dress code followed by most women in this Muslim country.
The two argued, then the Briton stripped down to her bikini and walked through the mall filled with luxury shops and near hotels with swimming pools.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=711&sid=11867707

I wonder what the penalty will be.

[Kathianne]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=711&sid=11867707

I wonder what the penalty will be.

And that is one of the liberal Muslim states. From the article:


...The mall, one of the world's largest, has signs asking shoppers to dress modestly, although Westerners routinely ignore the advisories.

The incident is the latest in a string of cases involving Westerners in Dubai, a cosmopolitan, city-state with the most lenient social codes in the Gulf but a tendency to crackdown on foreigners who ignore the rules.

In March, a British couple was sentenced to a month in jail for kissing in public while an Indian couple was sentenced to three months' prison for exchanging steamy text messages.

In 2008, two Britons accused of having sex on the beach got three months behind bars, though their sentences were later suspended.

[Sweetchuck]

Innnnnnfidellllll

[revelarts]

Don't want that coming here but When in Rome...
Remember the guy, Michael Fay, that got caned in Singapore for vandalism.

She can try to change their rules with public protest if she wants, but I'm not sure it's gonna work too good.

And depending on what she looked like, it might even be considered terrorism.

[chloe]

Don't want that coming here but When in Rome...
Remember the guy, Michael Fay, that got caned in Singapore for vandalism.

She can try to change their rules with public protest if she wants, but I'm not sure it's gonna work too good.

And depending on what she looked like, it might even be considered terrorism.

That would be a weird thing to do in an American mall too. I mean she stripped down to a bikini. I am surprized she wasn't stoned to death there. She must be really really rich or crazy !

[Sweetchuck]

Why any westerner would patronize anything in Dubai is beyond me.

[Gaffer]

Why any westerner would patronize anything in Dubai is beyond me.

They have a thriving slave trade.

[DragonStryk72]

Actually, the lady deserves whatever troubles she's gonna get from this, especially since she stripped down purposely just to be contrary. It would be like someone coming over here, and when asked to put on a shirt and shoes while in one of our malls, they instead get naked and go about the mall afterward.

[Pagan]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=711&sid=11867707

I wonder what the penalty will be.

Well she asked for it, she's not in Britain. A simple comparison would be for me a smoker lighting up a Cigarette in a Mall in L.A. were it's illegal.

[abso]

all they want is some decency in their country, is that bad !!!, freedom has a limit, we are all free to dress and wear wutever we want in our homes, where none sees us, but its not our right to wear anything in puplic, if the people want to be decent, why should we disagree with that !!!, that is something to be respected, not critisized, we are all free to do wutever we want unless we are affecting other people by our freedom, and i am sure wearing a bekini in a mall will affect many people. like the areas where smoking is not allowed in puplic, so why should bekini be allowed in puplic !!!, if she want to wear it, they she should stay home.


by the way, bekini is allowed on beaches, but of course not in malls or other puplic places.

[Nukeman]

all they want is some decency in their country, is that bad !!!, freedom has a limit, we are all free to dress and wear wutever we want in our homes, where none sees us, but its not our right to wear anything in puplic, if the people want to be decent, why should we disagree with that !!!, that is something to be respected, not critisized, we are all free to do wutever we want unless we are affecting other people by our freedom, and i am sure wearing a bekini in a mall will affect many people. like the areas where smoking is not allowed in puplic, so why should bekini be allowed in puplic !!!, if she want to wear it, they she should stay home.


by the way, bekini is allowed on beaches, but of course not in malls or other puplic places.
Than why the uproar over the banning of the burka in France?? After all it is their rules for decency and proper dress. Muslem can dress how they want in their homes but in public they must adhere to society accepted norm.

The problem with these Muslem countries is they want EVERYONE who visits thier countries to adhere to thier laws yet when they travel or move to other countries they expect.... no demand..... special consideration based on religious views... The day this practice stops than maybe just maybe people will stop finding the double standard soo damn offensive!!!

Or do you deny the fact that this occurs in most every Muslem country that restricts the freedom even of NON MUSLEMS!!!!!!

[Pagan]

Than why the uproar over the banning of the burka in France?? After all it is their rules for decency and proper dress. Muslem can dress how they want in their homes but in public they must adhere to society accepted norm.

The problem with these Muslem countries is they want EVERYONE who visits thier countries to adhere to thier laws yet when they travel or move to other countries they expect.... no demand..... special consideration based on religious views... The day this practice stops than maybe just maybe people will stop finding the double standard soo damn offensive!!!

Or do you deny the fact that this occurs in most every Muslem country that restricts the freedom even of NON MUSLEMS!!!!!!

When one travels to another country they are bound by their laws, saying that when you travel to another country you shouldn't have to adhere to their laws is rather arrogant wouldn't you say? :lame2:

[Nukeman]

When one travels to another country they are bound by their laws, saying that when you travel to another country you shouldn't have to adhere to their laws is rather arrogant wouldn't you say? :lame2:
you obviously have a comprehension problem!!!:slap:

Where did I sate anywhere in my post that you "shouldn't" adhere to thier laws??

I fully expect to go by the wishes of any host country I may be in, but your overlooking the fact that Muslems want to dictate how you act and dress in "THEIR" and also want to dictate how you act and dress in YOUR country...

That is more offensive to me than a woman walking through a mall in her bikini...

I personaly would not want the problems associated with Muslem countries so I would abide by their rules and laws just as I would expect them to do the same while in my country yet they continue to demand special trreatment.

What if my religious beliefs say I should shun slothing on the sabbath and that is what I do. Should it not be honored by their country shouldn't they make exceptions for me.... after all it is my "religious" belief...

[Pagan]

you obviously have a comprehension problem!!!:slap:

Where did I sate anywhere in my post that you "shouldn't" adhere to thier laws??

I fully expect to go by the wishes of any host country I may be in, but your overlooking the fact that Muslems want to dictate how you act and dress in "THEIR" and also want to dictate how you act and dress in YOUR country...

That is more offensive to me than a woman walking through a mall in her bikini...

I personaly would not want the problems associated with Muslem countries so I would abide by their rules and laws just as I would expect them to do the same while in my country yet they continue to demand special trreatment.

What if my religious beliefs say I should shun slothing on the sabbath and that is what I do. Should it not be honored by their country shouldn't they make exceptions for me.... after all it is my "religious" belief...

Where?

Here -




--snip--

Or do you deny the fact that this occurs in most every Muslem country that restricts the freedom even of NON MUSLEMS!!!!!!

The point I'm attempting to put forward is that the problem is with "our" Country's that try to accommodate to them instead of saying "deal with it".

The problem is us, not them.

[abso]

Than why the uproar over the banning of the burka in France?? After all it is their rules for decency and proper dress. Muslem can dress how they want in their homes but in public they must adhere to society accepted norm.

The problem with these Muslem countries is they want EVERYONE who visits thier countries to adhere to thier laws yet when they travel or move to other countries they expect.... no demand..... special consideration based on religious views... The day this practice stops than maybe just maybe people will stop finding the double standard soo damn offensive!!!

Or do you deny the fact that this occurs in most every Muslem country that restricts the freedom even of NON MUSLEMS!!!!!!

i dont care about banning the burka, about me, i hate it, i wil never agree to marry someone who wears burka, because i hate it, but that does not mean that i will insult anyone who wears a burka and i wont deny them their right to wear the burka, because it does not violate my freedom, it does not harm me in anything if any woman wears a burka, but when a woman wears a bekini in puplic, that is something that i dont like, everyone will be looking at her and it will cause disturbance, but when a woman wears a burka, none will be looking at her, it will cause no disturbance to anyone at all.

[avatar4321]

No pics? I'm surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised if the sentence is death.... by Snu snu

[namvet]

No pics? I'm surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised if the sentence is death.... by Snu snu

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01422/beach-dubai_1422673c.jpg

The arrest happened at the Dubai Mall It is believed the woman walked through the mall with a low-cut top, attracting complaints from a local woman. As the argument escalated she stripped down to her bikini and paraded around the Dubai Mall, the largest shopping centre in the world. She was taken away by police, but according to the Foreign Office charges have now been dropped. It's not the first time a Briton has been singled out as a result of Dubai's strict laws. Publishing executive Michelle Palmer and businessman Vince Acors were given three-month jail sentences after being convicted of having sex on a beach in July 2008....

http://dailymoaner.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/burkas-and-bikinis.jpg

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[Pagan]

If this was the UK and they were being charged with violating Sharia Law then it would be an issue worth outrage. But bottom line is they are NOT in the UK they are in Dubai and violated the local law and they're whining about it?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cry me a river of tears, either abide by the laws of the country you're in or don't go. It's just like the Muslims who whine about the laws in the West, live with it or go home.

[NightTrain]

No pics? I'm surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised if the sentence is death.... by Snu snu

Ahhh yes. Death by Snu Snu! The smiling, overjoyed skeletons with the crushed pelvises shackled in the corner always cracked me up, that was my favorite episode.

As far as the Brit that did this, I can see why she did it and that was to piss off the muslim chick trying to chastise her, but Nukeman's point is valid.

She shouldn't have stripped down to her bikini in that Dubai mall because it was offensive to the vast majority of the residents there. It wasn't the proper thing to do.

However, the same should also be applied to the wearing of Burkas and the like in Western countries - and muslims routinely reject common courtesy and wear that silly garb anyway, and to hell with the expectations of the local residents and their customs.

[HogTrash]

Foreigners who have a problem with the laws of some other nation should refrain from travel to that nation.

Just as I expect travelers to my country to obey our laws...I only wish my government would enforce them.

[Pagan]

Foreigners who have a problem with the laws of some other nation should refrain from travel to that nation.

Just as I expect travelers to my country to obey our laws...I only wish my government would enforce them.

Hit the nail on the head

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[Little-Acorn]

all they want is some decency in their country, is that bad !!!

And all we want is some thruth and honesty in ours, abso.

In a previous thread where people pointed out to you that the Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel, and even quoted the relevant sections to you... you then blithely insisted that you still didn't know what the Hamas charter said.

Here's a link to that thread, in case you were trying to find it but somehow couldn't: :laugh:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?28342-Why&p=439831#post439831

We're still waiting for you to answer the questions people asked you there. When you were asked, you abruptly vanished from the thread. Now I find you posting here, so obviously you have the time now.

[Alias.258]

Okay now this is just from my own observation. My little sister was having a party for her middle school graduation, there was a Muslim girl there. As soon as boys started arriving she called her mom, apparently she could not be at a party with boys. Because of that she was deprived of a graduation party celebrating the end of middle school and the entrance to high school. The culture irks me. Ive met the family, they are nice people, but their culture is being enforced upon a daughter who they decided to bring up in America and i feel bad for the kid. It is my guess that that kid isnt even being given a choice of observing the practices or not. Does it directly effect me? No. Is it any of my business? No. But does it bug the hell out of me? The simple answer is yes. The fact of the matter is that every religion inflicts at least some kind of control among its observers. And if you are in an area where a religion is that dominant and you do something that they have been taught is wrong your asking for trouble.

[Pagan]

Okay now this is just from my own observation. My little sister was having a party for her middle school graduation, there was a Muslim girl there. As soon as boys started arriving she called her mom, apparently she could not be at a party with boys. Because of that she was deprived of a graduation party celebrating the end of middle school and the entrance to high school. The culture irks me. Ive met the family, they are nice people, but their culture is being enforced upon a daughter who they decided to bring up in America and i feel bad for the kid. It is my guess that that kid isnt even being given a choice of observing the practices or not. Does it directly effect me? No. Is it any of my business? No. But does it bug the hell out of me? The simple answer is yes. The fact of the matter is that every religion inflicts at least some kind of control among its observers. And if you are in an area where a religion is that dominant and you do something that they have been taught is wrong your asking for trouble.

I take it you haven't been around any Fundamentalist Christian's also, like some Mormons and Jehovah Witness are like that also.

Religion is nothing more than a tool that has been used to control the "Herd" for eons, they all disgust me. But hey, if they wanna be part of the "Herd" and be controlled, that's no shit in my shorts as long as they don't push it onto me.

[Sweetchuck]

Here is where we lose our credibility.

We are a western culture. GW had it right when he said our way of life is worth defending. I completely agree with that sentiment. Having said that, we need to demand respect for our way of life. Islam demands respect for it's culture and yet they don't reciprocate and give us the same respect.

As an American, that fucking pisses me off.

[Pagan]

Here is where we lose our credibility.

We are a western culture. GW had it right when he said our way of life is worth defending. I completely agree with that sentiment. Having said that, we need to demand respect for our way of life. Islam demands respect for it's culture and yet they don't reciprocate and give us the same respect.

As an American, that fucking pisses me off.

One of the things though about the U.S., the culture we do have is young and is a mixture of many.

[Alias.258]

I take it you haven't been around any Fundamentalist Christian's also, like some Mormons and Jehovah Witness are like that also.

Religion is nothing more than a tool that has been used to control the "Herd" for eons, they all disgust me. But hey, if they wanna be part of the "Herd" and be controlled, that's no shit in my shorts as long as they don't push it onto me.

Your right i haven't been around those people. But i was just using the ones i mentioned as an example. I already didn't like religion as its teachings didn't usually correspond with history or science. But after reading A History of God by Karren Armstrong, i cant fathom how people can even take religion seriously. (No offense to anybody that does). I just didn't see that worth mentioning in my previous post as it wasn't relevant to my point. But i do completely agree with you when you say that that's okay if they want to be controlled, just as long as they don't try and force it upon me.

[PostmodernProphet]

Here is where we lose our credibility.

We are a western culture. GW had it right when he said our way of life is worth defending. I completely agree with that sentiment. Having said that, we need to demand respect for our way of life. Islam demands respect for it's culture and yet they don't reciprocate and give us the same respect.

As an American, that fucking pisses me off.

here is your error.....if we went around demanding respect for our way of life, it wouldn't be worth defending any more........