Your thoughts on current default style?

[jimnyc]

There are currently 2 styles to choose from. The default if you haven't manually changed it is the blue style. The original out of the box, with a few DP changes, is the all white one. This poll is regarding the blue style which I've worked most on in the hopes of adding the recommended changes from members and staying as our default style.

If you like it, that means you don't want any changes. If you specify you like it, but want changes, make those changes known in this thread. If you hate it, and want something completely different, please let me know specifically what you would rather see.

Here is a link to all the "free styles" available on vB.org. If you're adventurous enough to go through them, and see one you want me to add as an option, post a link here.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=247

There are also "premium" styles out there, if one chooses to search on their own. Do a Google search on "vbulletin styles" or "premium vbulletin styles". If someone found a great one, and the majority agreed, I'll pony up and buy a premium theme.

[jimnyc]

Voting no, that you don't like it and would rather see something else, and then not leaving any comment whatsoever = your vote doesn't count

[Mr. P]

I'm good with it. I know it can be tweeked along the way if need be.

[Kathianne]

I like it. It keeps the traditional blue, while lightening it up. Good for my mood and vision. :2up:

[Sweetchuck]

It's fine.

[Abbey Marie]

I like it fine the way it is. And I don't think you should pay out of your pocket for a premium style.

[jimnyc]

I like it fine the way it is. And I don't think you should pay out of your pocket for a premium style.

Unfortunately, sometimes a premium theme is what it takes to please the masses. I paid $29 for the one you're seeing now, and can have a custom skin designed for about $500. How much you wanna bet that not EVERYONE would be pleased anyway. I just want it at a point where it looks professional for the first time visitor, different than the rest of the boards out there, and in a color scheme which allows all readers to easily read the text.

[Abbey Marie]

Unfortunately, sometimes a premium theme is what it takes to please the masses. I paid $29 for the one you're seeing now, and can have a custom skin designed for about $500. How much you wanna bet that not EVERYONE would be pleased anyway. I just want it at a point where it looks professional for the first time visitor, different than the rest of the boards out there, and in a color scheme which allows all readers to easily read the text.

Whoa- $500?! I believe the board looks professional. I also find the colors appealing and not hard on the eyes.

I am getting so tired of all the black backgrounds out there. I suspect they all think they look edgy, when in fact they tend to look depressing and unoriginal.

[jimnyc]

Whoa- $500?! I believe the board looks professional. I also find the colors appealing and not hard on the eyes.

I am getting so tired of all the black backgrounds out there. I suspect they all think they look edgy, when in fact they tend to look depressing and unoriginal.

My favorite color is black, but NOT for a website background! I prefer a site to be a little lighter, with shades just dark enough to take away the glare.

[Abbey Marie]

My favorite color is black, but NOT for a website background! I prefer a site to be a little lighter, with shades just dark enough to take away the glare.

I like black, too. As I sit here, I am wearing an all- black button down shirt and a black bra. ;)

[jimnyc]

I like black, too. As I sit here, I am wearing an all- black button down shirt and a black bra. ;)

Picture please?

[Kathianne]

I like black, too. As I sit here, I am wearing an all- black button down shirt and a black bra. ;)

You said 'bra.' OMG! LOL!

[Kathianne]

Picture please?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2whnwk0.png

But ahem, generic. LOL!

[Abbey Marie]

That's a cute one, Kath. :laugh:

[Abbey Marie]

On the desk:

http://www.zingerbug.com/Backgrounds/background_images/black_lacy_bra.jpg

[Binky]

Pesonnally, I liked it fine the way it was. Rather boring looking now.....:puke:

[jimnyc]

I'm not talking to you 2 teases anymore. For 7 years now I've been trying and have zero boobs on my resume. :(

[Abbey Marie]

I'm not talking to you 2 teases anymore. For 7 years now I've been trying and have zero boobs on my resume. :(

Every man has his limits. :laugh2: You know we love you!

[Kathianne]

On the desk:

http://www.zingerbug.com/Backgrounds/background_images/black_lacy_bra.jpg

Abbey, Jim's problem is 'us' we'll never give him boobies. LOL! Yet he chose us to be mods. His gain and loss! :laugh2:

Hey, Jim. I don't need speedo pics, but would love the glasses instead of contacts. ;)

[Abbey Marie]

Abbey, Jim's problem is 'us' we'll never give him boobies. LOL! Yet he chose us to be mods. His gain and loss! :laugh2:

Hey, Jim. I don't need speedo pics, but would love the glasses instead of contacts. ;)

Never say never! :coffee:

[jimnyc]

Pesonnally, I liked it fine the way it was. Rather boring looking now.....:puke:

What specifically don't you like, maybe we can do something to make it better?

[namvet]

guess you better count me out

[Mr. P]

When I came in tonight I noticed about 4 threads I'm subscribed to with new posts since I was last in. They weren't sent to my e-mail though. First time that's happened.

[jimnyc]

When I came in tonight I noticed about 4 threads I'm subscribed to with new posts since I was last in. They weren't sent to my e-mail though. First time that's happened.

Has anyone else had this issue? I can't say myself as I never subscribe to threads, but I do know I've been getting my emails when I get a PM.

Mr. P, let me know if it happens again and let's hope for some feedback from others who use the subscribe option.

[SassyLady]

I might have missed the post explainting this, but where do I find all the thanked posts ..currently reading 0 thanks for 0 posts ...did it delete history and start over? And, what is my total rep received? and my special ribbons:?

[jimnyc]

I might have missed the post explainting this, but where do I find all the thanked posts ..currently reading 0 thanks for 0 posts ...did it delete history and start over? And, what is my total rep received? and my special ribbons:?

There are currently no modifications available that allow you to fully track them, only show totals. Future releases by developers will include the tracking.

I tried a different one yesterday, then reverted back to the one we were using due to errors. I apologize for the "reset". At least when a developer releases an upgraded version to this one, there should be nothing lost from this point forward.

[jimnyc]

I have added another style to the board. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the board, and for the dropdown arrow on the style chooser the new name is "Blue Demon". This is just for testing of colors and layout, hence the cheesy header/name/logo. I'm going to try and add a bunch of styles over time and allow all the members to choose what fits them best. What works, I will finalize them with decent logos and whatever else they need, what doesn't work will be removed. Right now that leaves us with 3 available styles.

Don't forget, you can go into your user control panel and assign a default style to your account. If you don't do this, it will always revert to the default assigned style instead of your favorite.

[LuvRPgrl]

i like black, too. As i sit here, i am wearing an all- black button down shirt and a black bra. ;)

and........?????

[LuvRPgrl]

There a?re currently no modifications available that allow you to fully track them, only show totals. Future releases by developers will include the tracking.

I tried a different one yesterday, then reverted back to the one we were using due to errors. I apologize for the "reset". At least when a developer releases an upgraded version to this one, there should be nothing lost from this point forward.

Im not sure if I understand. Are you saying the old recd reps are not tracked, but the new ones willl be?

If a person receives new rep, does it post like the old ones did with the comments?

[jimnyc]

Im not sure if I understand. Are you saying the old recd reps are not tracked, but the new ones willl be?

If a person receives new rep, does it post like the old ones did with the comments?

The rep system hasn't been affected. This is the "thanks" system. At the bottom of every post you have the ability to click a button an publicly "thank" a user for their post. Due to sporadic changes and testing, the stats were lost. The program still functions now and will save all the amounts of thanks going forward.

[jimnyc]

I added a "tag cloud" on the forum home page at the very bottom. This will only show on that page and not subsequent pages.

[jimnyc]

If you click on "Quick Links" on the top navigation bar, you'll now see the first option as "Today's posts". I believe it was Kathianne that asked about this. It's gone in vB4 but someone made code to bring it back. :)

[Kathianne]

If you click on "Quick Links" on the top navigation bar, you'll now see the first option as "Today's posts". I believe it was Kathianne that asked about this. It's gone in vB4 but someone made code to bring it back. :)

Thank you, thank you!

[SassyLady]

I added a "tag cloud" on the forum home page at the very bottom. This will only show on that page and not subsequent pages.

What is a "tag cloud"?

Also, when I log on this is at the very bottom of the main page:


0911 9/11 2012 al gore anonymous bomb times square attempt border carter chanology climate gate crime crimes democratic democratic party divisiveness drugs economics fairness frank fahsel fraud gang german ss gingrich ground zero gun control guns hcr health care hillary hoax intro introduction iraq corruption mosque news online obama palin rider penatgon political forum preferences primary race racism razor blades rendell repeal it republican scientology sharia shaving foam shaving lather skull & bones uit united anarchists violence war waste winfried sobottka

and each word is a link to a post?

[jimnyc]

What is a "tag cloud"?

Also, when I log on this is at the very bottom of the main page:



and each word is a link to a post?

A tag cloud is a list of words/phrases that have been used the most on the board. The larger and darker, the more it's been used. Clicking on any word/phrase will give you a list of all the threads with those words in it.

[Abbey Marie]

That's a handy way to get to know if you like board.

[Sweetchuck]

What is a "tag cloud"?



It's like a hot fart that follows you around I think.

:laugh:

[Sweetchuck]

Forum looks sweet.

Very professional.

[HogTrash]

I see a bunch of sponsors that I hadn't noticed before?

Does this mean we're now at the mercy of their literary discretion?

Will the DebatePolicy priority remain freedom of speech or succumb to greed?

[Sweetchuck]

What a ridiculous suggestion.
















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[KarlMarx]

Leave it as is.

I notice that, for some reason, the spell checker on my Google toolbar causes the text box you use to enter posts to wash out entirely. I don't know what the cause of that is.

[jimnyc]

Leave it as is.

I notice that, for some reason, the spell checker on my Google toolbar causes the text box you use to enter posts to wash out entirely. I don't know what the cause of that is.

Let me see if I understand you correctly... You type a message, but when you hit the spellcheck on Google Toolbar, it removes your post/text?

[Gaffer]

I see a bunch of sponsors that I hadn't noticed before?

Does this mean we're now at the mercy of their literary discretion?

Will the DebatePolicy priority remain freedom of speech or succumb to greed?

Just ignore the ads. If it helps fund the upkeep of the board I have no problem with them.

[namvet]

no i like the adds. there was one on nut grass. which im having an issue with............

[avatar4321]

Dude. I love this. Especially the banner at the top with the eagle and the soldiers. Very sweet.

[SassyLady]

A tag cloud is a list of words/phrases that have been used the most on the board. The larger and darker, the more it's been used. Clicking on any word/phrase will give you a list of all the threads with those words in it.

Got it! :slap:

[Kathianne]

When I click on the 'guoted by' arrow, I am taken to the right page, but not the individual's post. I don't know if it's just me or everyone? I didn't have the problem before and don't have it at other sites. I've tried logging out, hasn't fixed it.

[jimnyc]

When I click on the 'guoted by' arrow, I am taken to the right page, but not the individual's post. I don't know if it's just me or everyone? I didn't have the problem before and don't have it at other sites. I've tried logging out, hasn't fixed it.

It works on my end...

Can you temporarily switch to another style at the bottom of the board, then test it again. This will tell me if the issue is global to all styles or style specific.

[HogTrash]

Leave it as is.

I notice that, for some reason, the spell checker on my Google toolbar causes the text box you use to enter posts to wash out entirely. I don't know what the cause of that is.I never use SpellChek...My frequent errors help in keeping my fellow posters more at ease with me by dispelling the myth that the wise ole Hog is perfect.

Just call me Mister Considerate. :thanks:

[Kathianne]

It works on my end...

Can you temporarily switch to another style at the bottom of the board, then test it again. This will tell me if the issue is global to all styles or style specific.

I tried the 'Debate Policy', 'Elegant Blue', and 'default'-not working in any for me.

[jimnyc]

I tried the 'Debate Policy', 'Elegant Blue', and 'default'-not working in any for me.

Ok, so it's a vB4 issue and not the styles. You say it doesn't happen at any other boards, but are they upgraded to 4.0x?

Try perusing around http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum.php

See if you can find threads with quotes there and see if it works, no need to register.

[Kathianne]

Ok, so it's a vB4 issue and not the styles. You say it doesn't happen at any other boards, but are they upgraded to 4.0x?

Try perusing around http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum.php

See if you can find threads with quotes there and see if it works, no need to register.

It worked for me here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?354464-When-will-vB4-Chinese-version-available&p=1994516

[jimnyc]

Kath,

Can you give us a link to a specific post that has a quote giving you a problem linking back to another post. This will allow other members to test, and I also need to look at the specific code...

[namvet]

I got a Q. how do you delete a post????

on the old version you clicked edit then go advanced then button in delete. the buttons are missing

[Kathianne]

Kath,

Can you give us a link to a specific post that has a quote giving you a problem linking back to another post. This will allow other members to test, and I also need to look at the specific code...

Jim, none of them work to specific post. Weird thing though, if I click on the current posts at top, I'll be brought to the specific post. (Right now you are that post.)

On the site you referred me to, Vb whatever, it worked there. Works at two other sites you are familiar with too. It takes me to the correct page, I just have to sift through the poster's posts.

On this thread: http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?28788-On-Jounolist/page4

From #55, I click on the quote from Mrs. KP, I'm brought to the top of pg 4.

[jimnyc]

I got a Q. how do you delete a post????

on the old version you clicked edit then go advanced then button in delete. the buttons are missing

You don't. Regular members cannot delete posts and only have a limited amount of time to edit them. This was due to prior users getting angry and going back and editing/deleting every post they made and it royally screwed up threads. If you need something done you cannot do yourself, report the post or shoot a PM to a staff member.

[jimnyc]

Jim, none of them work to specific post. Weird thing though, if I click on the current posts at top, I'll be brought to the specific post. (Right now you are that post.)

On the site you referred me to, Vb whatever, it worked there. Works at two other sites you are familiar with too. It takes me to the correct page, I just have to sift through the poster's posts.

On this thread: http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?28788-On-Jounolist/page4

From #55, I click on the quote from Mrs. KP, I'm brought to the top of pg 4.

Ok, that's a great reference for me to work from. Can you do one last favor for me? Go to that post again, right click on the arrow that doesn't bring you to the proper post, and copy the link it wants to send you to. In FF it is "right click" and then choose "copy link location". In IE it is right click and then "copy shortcut".

[KarlMarx]

Let me see if I understand you correctly... You type a message, but when you hit the spellcheck on Google Toolbar, it removes your post/text?
No, when I click spell check, the box turns white, I cannot see what I typed in. If I click spell check again, to turn it off, the text reappears. I am using IE 8 by the way.

[Kathianne]

Ok, that's a great reference for me to work from. Can you do one last favor for me? Go to that post again, right click on the arrow that doesn't bring you to the proper post, and copy the link it wants to send you to. In FF it is "right click" and then choose "copy link location". In IE it is right click and then "copy shortcut".

Here you go:
debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p436757#post436753

[jimnyc]

No, when I click spell check, the box turns white, I cannot see what I typed in. If I click spell check again, to turn it off, the text reappears. I am using IE 8 by the way.

I just turned on the spellcheck on my Google toolbar. The background is whiteish while I type, but turns a bluish color when I hit check - but everything I type is readable either way. I'll look into this further.

[jimnyc]

Here you go:
debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p436757#post436753

Ok, we're both seeing the same link.

Can you tell me what browser you are using, and what version?

[jimnyc]

No, when I click spell check, the box turns white, I cannot see what I typed in. If I click spell check again, to turn it off, the text reappears. I am using IE 8 by the way.

Ok, this is a known bug with vb4 that the developers are going to ultimately fix with a future release.

If you want a temporary fix:

When writing a post, use the standard editor and it works. If you look to the right of your post, above the smilies, is what looks like 2 A's ( a/A). Click on that and you can go back and forth between advanced and standard mode.

[KarlMarx]

Ok, this is a known bug with vb4 that the developers are going to ultimately fix with a future release.

If you want a temporary fix:

When writing a post, use the standard editor and it works. If you look to the right of your post, above the smilies, is what looks like 2 A's ( a/A). Click on that and you can go back and forth between advanced and standard mode.
I will try that, thanks

[Jeff]

I LIKE :thumb:

[Kathianne]

Ok, we're both seeing the same link.

Can you tell me what browser you are using, and what version?

Safari Version 4.0.5 (4531.22.7)
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_4_11; en)

[Mr. P]

I LIKE :thumb:

Yeah but yer a redneck!!! :laugh2:

[jimnyc]

Safari Version 4.0.5 (4531.22.7)
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_4_11; en)

Can you possibly try a different browser to see if the issue follows? You can uninstall it afterwards if you want!

I recommend Firefox:

English/Mac is on this page: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

[Mr. P]

I used the "Debate Policy" style all day testerday. I like the look but IT'S very slow to load page to page. I'm back to Eloquentblue.

[jimnyc]

Can you possibly try a different browser to see if the issue follows? You can uninstall it afterwards if you want!

I recommend Firefox:

English/Mac is on this page: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

Kath, the browser change should fix your issue for now. The quote backlink and Safari together is a known bug for now:

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBIV-7263?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issueta bpanels%3Aall-tabpanel

[jimnyc]

I used the "Debate Policy" style all day testerday. I like the look but IT'S very slow to load page to page. I'm back to Eloquentblue.

I'll have the developer take a peek. I don't see a load difference myself. Others?

[jimnyc]

Mr. P - I made a change to the way the system stores certain .CSS files. Can you try switching back to the new style and see if its any better now?

[Mr. P]

Mr. P - I made a change to the way the system stores certain .CSS files. Can you try switching back to the new style and see if its any better now?

Sure

[Kathianne]

Kath, the browser change should fix your issue for now. The quote backlink and Safari together is a known bug for now:

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBIV-7263?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issueta bpanels%3Aall-tabpanel

I'm downloading now. Used to use firefox with pc, found the mac version.

[Kathianne]

Hey Jim, Firefox cleared up that problem. Thanks

[Mr. P]

Mr. P - I made a change to the way the system stores certain .CSS files. Can you try switching back to the new style and see if its any better now?

I timed it.. It takes twice the time to load a thread in the "Debate Policy" style as it does in "Eloquentblue".

[jimnyc]

Hey Jim, Firefox cleared up that problem. Thanks

No problem, I'll let you know when the Safari issue is reported as fixed.


I timed it.. It takes twice the time to load a thread in the "Debate Policy" style as it does in "Eloquentblue".

I have the time it takes me to completely load a page timed everywhere I go. All the pages here take me less than one second to fully load. But yes, some styles and the way they are designed "can" cause issues for browsers rendering them. I have the "bug thread" updated with your issue to see if anything can be done to increase the load time.

Out of curiosity, how fast is the processor on your computer and how much memory do you have?

[HogTrash]

There's too much business going on here and not enough fun. :slap:

I would hate to think I'm wasting my best material on a bunch of sour-pusses.

[Sweetchuck]

Hey - what happened to the thank count?