top secret america --

[revelarts]

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/

Washington Post is running a series of reports with an interactive web site that to gives an interesting overview of the US intelligence services growth and effectiveness.

One story really paints it as a aimless monster thats getting fatter off of public dollars.

check out the video

[jon_forward]

my brother works for one of these "Top Secret" companies in D.C, I for one would just as soon keep them as secret as totally possible and hope that all the info and intel would also stay the same. During discussions with my brother there are certain topics that are off-limits, as in need to know, and I am not on the need to know list. I believe the government is doing what must be done to try and protect us from wmds and terrorist plots. let em do what they do :salute:

[revelarts]

I'm sure your brother is a great guy whose got our backs.
I use to work with a guy in the airforce reserve that had uber top secret clearance. someone I'd trust to do the right thing as well.
BUT can we really afford to trust everyone, shouldn't there be some accountability, can we really trust any group to self police all the time?

[revelarts]

I've run across a lot of info that has struck me about our country.
if you've got time listen to this
and i'd like to get your take on it.

it's 4 former CIA, FBI, DEA officers. Talking in 1997. About among other things Bin Laden, drugs, cointelpro, South America and the middle east.

http://expertwitnessradio.org/site/wp-content/uploads/expertWitness-1997-08-09-100years.mp3

http://expertwitnessradio.org/site/100-years-episode/

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"Some time in late 1996 / early 1997, Mike Levine gathered 3 fellow federal agents to discuss the state of security and intelligence – both in the U.S. and around the world. All told, between the four of them, they had over 100 years’ experience – hence the title.

While the fidelity of the actual recording leaves much to be desired, the conversation is striking to say the least. It predicts much of what has since come to pass.

It is, in many respects, one of the most important broadcasts in the history of the show.

The three participants:

Dennis Dayle – DEA
He began his federal career working for the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs in Chicago, a forerunner of the Drug Enforcement Administration, where he continued to distinguish himself. From the mid-1970s to 1980s, Dayle led investigations into international drug smuggling for the DEA, heading up Centac, which were chronicled in 1986 in a best-selling book, The Underground Empire: Where Crime and Governments Embrace, by James Mills.

Ralph McGehee – CIA
a 25 year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency enlightened us with this following paragraph from his 1983 book “Deadly Deceits,” which edifies a familiar pattern of deception that we have witnessed but we never understood. He stated the following about the CIA:

“The CIA is not an intelligence agency. In fact, it acts largely as an anti-intelligence agency, producing only that information wanted by policymakers to support their plans and suppressing information that does not support those plans. As the covert action arm of the president, the CIA uses disinformation, much of it aimed at the U.S. public, to mold opinion. It employs the gamut of disinformation techniques from forging documents to planting and discovering “communist” weapons caches. But the major weapon in its arsenal of disinformation is the “intelligence” it feeds to policymakers.

Instead of gathering genuine intelligence that could serve as the basis for reasonable policies, the CIA often ends up distorting reality, creating out of the whole cloth “intelligence” to justify policies that have already been decided upon. Policymakers leak this “intelligence” to the media to deceive us all and gain our support.”

Wesley Swearingen – FBI

Former FBI Special Agent from 1951 to 1977, M. Wesley Swearingen wrote “FBI Secrets”. This important work traces his FBI career in “domestic counter-intelligence” from the time he signed on after World War II to his retirement and beyond.

Swearingen began his career doing “black bag jobs” on Communists in Chicago. In Kentucky and New York City, he spent years doing serious criminal investigations, which had been his goal in joining the FBI. But J. Edgar Hoover fixated on the threat posed by such groups as the Black Panthers and the Weathermen – Swearingen is more explicit than most on the FBI’s unconstitutional role in an important pattern of political corruption and illegal repression of U.S. Civil Rights in the 1960s, under his one-time mentor, Hoover.

He is interviewed in the documentary films All Power to the People! and The U.S. vs. John Lennon.

The episode runs 2.5 hours, and it’s worth every minute."

[namvet]

so what's your security worth ???? TS should remain TS. myself i think the agencies should be run by the military. not civilians !!!

[revelarts]

FRONTLINE

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/topsecretamerica/

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