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Psychoblues
04-29-2007, 11:29 PM
Capitalism at it’s BEST!!!!!!!!!!!



By DAVID BARBOZA and ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: April 30, 2007
ZHANGQIU, China, April 28 — As American food safety regulators head to China to investigate how a chemical made from coal found its way into pet food that killed dogs and cats in the United States, workers in this heavily polluted northern city openly admit that the substance is routinely added to animal feed as a fake protein.

For years, producers of animal feed all over China have secretly supplemented their feed with the substance, called melamine, a cheap additive that looks like protein in tests, even though it does not provide any nutritional benefits, according to melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here.

“Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed,” said Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company, which sells melamine. “I don’t know if there’s a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says ‘don’t do it,’ so everyone’s doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren’t they? If there’s no accident, there won’t be any regulation.”

Melamine is at the center of a recall of 60 million packages of pet food, after the chemical was found in wheat gluten linked this month to the deaths of at least 16 pets and the illness of possibly thousands of pets in the United States.

No one knows exactly how melamine (which is not believed to be particularly toxic) became so fatal in pet food, but its presence in any form of American food is illegal.
The link to China has set off concerns among critics of the Food and Drug Administration that ingredients in pet food as well as human food, which are increasingly coming from abroad, are not being adequately screened.

“They have fewer people inspecting product at the ports than ever before,” says Caroline Smith DeWaal, the director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington. “Until China gets programs in place to verify the safety of their products, they need to be inspected by U.S. inspectors. This open-door policy on food ingredients is an open invitation for an attack on the food supply, either intentional or unintentional.”
Now, with evidence mounting that the tainted wheat gluten came from China, American regulators have been granted permission to visit the region to conduct inspections of food treatment facilities.
The Food and Drug Administration has already banned imports of wheat gluten from China after it received more than 14,000 reports of pets believed to have been sickened by packaged food. And last week, the agency opened a criminal investigation in the case and searched the offices of at least one pet food supplier.

The Department of Agriculture has also stepped in. On Thursday, the agency ordered more than 6,000 hogs to be quarantined or slaughtered after some of the pet food ingredients laced with melamine were accidentally sent to hog farms in eight states, including California.
The pet food case is also putting China’s agricultural exports under greater scrutiny because the country has had a terrible food safety record.
In recent years, for instance, China’s food safety scandals have involved everything from fake baby milk formulas and soy sauce made from human hair to instances where cuttlefish were soaked in calligraphy ink to improve their color and eels were fed contraceptive pills to make them grow long and slim.
For their part, Chinese officials dispute any suggestion that melamine from the country could have killed pets. But regulators here on Friday banned the use of melamine in vegetable proteins made for export or for use in domestic food supplies.

Yet what is clear from visiting this region of northeast China is that for years melamine has been quietly mixed into Chinese animal feed and then sold to unsuspecting farmers as protein-rich pig, poultry and fish feed.

Many animal feed operators here advertise on the Internet, seeking to purchase melamine scrap. The Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Company, one of the companies that American regulators named as having shipped melamine-tainted wheat gluten to the United States, had posted such a notice on the Internet last March.

Here at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group factory, huge boiler vats are turning coal into melamine, which is then used to create plastics and fertilizer.

Much More: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/business/worldbusiness/30food.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1177906873-DHOHl9FkkVYESKs1Udq9rw


Do you think it doesn’t happen here in the strong arms of safety of the USA?

manu1959
04-29-2007, 11:31 PM
china ain't capitalisim.....and can you link me up to your claim that US companies are posioning pet food for money?

Psychoblues
04-29-2007, 11:59 PM
Did you read the article?


china ain't capitalisim.....and can you link me up to your claim that US companies are posioning pet food for money?

I doubt it and I further doubt that I can do or say anything to excuse your demonstrated ignorance.

TheStripey1
04-30-2007, 04:29 PM
here's more fodder for thought...



Melamine-spiking “widespread” in China; human food broadly contaminated (http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2861)

Who knows what kind of shit is adulterating our imported and domestic food supply? But whatever it is, it’s about to hit the fan.

Months after dogs and cats started dropping dead of renal failure from melamine-tainted pet food, American consumers are beginning to learn how long and how wide this contaminant has also poisoned the human food supply. Last week, as California officials revealed that at least 45 people are known to have eaten tainted pork, the USDA announced that it would pay farmers millions of dollars to destroy and dispose of thousands of hogs fed “salvaged” pet food.

But this is just the tip of the iceberg. Through the salvaging practice, melamine-tainted pet food has likely contaminated America’s livestock for as long as it has been killing and sickening America’s pets — as far back as August of 2006, or even earlier. And while it may seem alarmist to suggest without absolute proof that Americans have been eating melamine-tainted pork, chicken and farm-raised fish for the better part of a year, the FDA and USDA seem to be preparing to brace Americans for the worst. In an unusual, Saturday afternoon joint press release, the regulators tasked with protecting the safety of our nation’s food supply go to convoluted lengths to reassure the public that eating melamine-tainted pork is perfectly safe.

...snip

“The practice is widespread in China,” the Times reports, and has been going on “for years.” And it is not just wheat, corn, rice and soybean proteins that should be suspect, but the animals who feed on it, including all imported Chinese pork, poultry, farm-raised fish, and their various by-products. Despite FDA and USDA efforts to allay concerns about consuming melamine-tainted meat, the health effects are unstudied, and the permissible level is zero. If China could impose a three-year (and counting) ban on the import of U.S. beef after a single incident of Mad Cow disease, then surely the U.S. would be justified in imposing a ban on Chinese vegetable protein and livestock products due to such a prevalent, industrywide contamination.

..snip

Had this accident never occurred — had cats, with their sensitive renal systems, not been the canary in the coal mine of melamine toxicity — we might never have known that our children and our pets were being slowly poisoned by Chinese capitalism.

...snip



so... what do you think? Should we ban all food imports from China until they can prove melamine isn't in their products?

manu1959
04-30-2007, 04:31 PM
can someone explain what an "open secret" is?

Psychoblues
05-03-2007, 10:30 PM
I think it means that the addition of melamine to food products for bulk and profit is well recognised and has been for some time in China. They also understand the melamine is only used in exported food products so they just take in the cash while the western importers fall all over themselves about how "cheap" it is.




can someone explain what an "open secret" is?

Did you read the articles linked by the StripeyOne or by me, m'59? I doubt it or you would have a better understanding what this thread is about.

gabosaurus
05-05-2007, 01:21 AM
Soylent Green Is People!

Fountainhead
05-05-2007, 08:01 PM
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/petfoodrecall/

This is how free-market Capitalism handles pet food that kills pets.

1. Cheap-ass Pet food manufacturer sells pet food that kills pets
2. Pet food manufacturer goes out of business
3. More-expensive, high-quality Pet food manufacturer's business quadruples

This is how a Socialist country handles pet food that kills pets.

1. There is only ONE brand of pet food distributed from a very long pet-food line on Thursdays, if you hold a lottery ticket that you had to bribe from your politbureau chief. Government pet food kills your pet.
2. Government issues the following public service messages:
a. Your pet is not really dead, its hibernating
b. Pets are decadent icons of a depraved Western society
c. Capitalist CIA swine contaminated all of our pet food

PS ... my dog, Jozie, eats Canidae dog food. Not on the list of tainted foods. It is manufactured in the USA. Headquartered in San Luis Obispo, CA

Abbey Marie
05-06-2007, 12:16 PM
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/petfoodrecall/

This is how free-market Capitalism handles pet food that kills pets.

1. Cheap-ass Pet food manufacturer sells pet food that kills pets
2. Pet food manufacturer goes out of business
3. More-expensive, high-quality Pet food manufacturer's business quadruples

This is how a Socialist country handles pet food that kills pets.

1. There is only ONE brand of pet food distributed from a very long pet-food line on Thursdays, if you hold a lottery ticket that you had to bribe from your politbureau chief. Government pet food kills your pet.
2. Government issues the following public service messages:
a. Your pet is not really dead, its hibernating
b. Pets are decadent icons of a depraved Western society
c. Capitalist CIA swine contaminated all of our pet food

PS ... my dog, Jozie, eats Canidae dog food. Not on the list of tainted foods. It is manufactured in the USA. Headquartered in San Luis Obispo, CA

:clap: :laugh2:

Psychoblues
05-14-2007, 02:45 AM
Are you making fun of the articles as quoted and linked, Abbey, or ar you just being your normal ignorant self and proud to be that way?



:clap: :laugh2:

Just asking?

Sitarro
05-14-2007, 07:10 AM
Capitalism at it’s BEST!!!!!!!!!!!



By DAVID BARBOZA and ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: April 30, 2007
ZHANGQIU, China, April 28 — As American food safety regulators head to China to investigate how a chemical made from coal found its way into pet food that killed dogs and cats in the United States, workers in this heavily polluted northern city openly admit that the substance is routinely added to animal feed as a fake protein.

For years, producers of animal feed all over China have secretly supplemented their feed with the substance, called melamine, a cheap additive that looks like protein in tests, even though it does not provide any nutritional benefits, according to melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here.

“Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed,” said Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company, which sells melamine. “I don’t know if there’s a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says ‘don’t do it,’ so everyone’s doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren’t they? If there’s no accident, there won’t be any regulation.”

Melamine is at the center of a recall of 60 million packages of pet food, after the chemical was found in wheat gluten linked this month to the deaths of at least 16 pets and the illness of possibly thousands of pets in the United States.

No one knows exactly how melamine (which is not believed to be particularly toxic) became so fatal in pet food, but its presence in any form of American food is illegal.
The link to China has set off concerns among critics of the Food and Drug Administration that ingredients in pet food as well as human food, which are increasingly coming from abroad, are not being adequately screened.

“They have fewer people inspecting product at the ports than ever before,” says Caroline Smith DeWaal, the director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington. “Until China gets programs in place to verify the safety of their products, they need to be inspected by U.S. inspectors. This open-door policy on food ingredients is an open invitation for an attack on the food supply, either intentional or unintentional.”
Now, with evidence mounting that the tainted wheat gluten came from China, American regulators have been granted permission to visit the region to conduct inspections of food treatment facilities.
The Food and Drug Administration has already banned imports of wheat gluten from China after it received more than 14,000 reports of pets believed to have been sickened by packaged food. And last week, the agency opened a criminal investigation in the case and searched the offices of at least one pet food supplier.

The Department of Agriculture has also stepped in. On Thursday, the agency ordered more than 6,000 hogs to be quarantined or slaughtered after some of the pet food ingredients laced with melamine were accidentally sent to hog farms in eight states, including California.
The pet food case is also putting China’s agricultural exports under greater scrutiny because the country has had a terrible food safety record.
In recent years, for instance, China’s food safety scandals have involved everything from fake baby milk formulas and soy sauce made from human hair to instances where cuttlefish were soaked in calligraphy ink to improve their color and eels were fed contraceptive pills to make them grow long and slim.
For their part, Chinese officials dispute any suggestion that melamine from the country could have killed pets. But regulators here on Friday banned the use of melamine in vegetable proteins made for export or for use in domestic food supplies.

Yet what is clear from visiting this region of northeast China is that for years melamine has been quietly mixed into Chinese animal feed and then sold to unsuspecting farmers as protein-rich pig, poultry and fish feed.

Many animal feed operators here advertise on the Internet, seeking to purchase melamine scrap. The Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Company, one of the companies that American regulators named as having shipped melamine-tainted wheat gluten to the United States, had posted such a notice on the Internet last March.

Here at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group factory, huge boiler vats are turning coal into melamine, which is then used to create plastics and fertilizer.

Much More: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/business/worldbusiness/30food.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1177906873-DHOHl9FkkVYESKs1Udq9rw


Do you think it doesn’t happen here in the strong arms of safety of the USA?

Well thank God the Democrats are going to run everything after 2008, I'm sure they are hard at work right now as we speak, coming up with the solutions that will make the world a safer and peaceful place for all.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

John Lennon

Psychoblues
05-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Great John Lennon Jamm, zorro.



Well thank God the Democrats are going to run everything after 2008, I'm sure they are hard at work right now as we speak, coming up with the solutions that will make the world a safer and peaceful place for all.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

John Lennon

I am so glad you posted it. Do you understand it? It's a rather simple poem.

nevadamedic
05-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Are you making fun of the articles as quoted and linked, Abbey, or ar you just being your normal ignorant self and proud to be that way?






Just asking?

You have no room to talk about someone being ignorant.

Psychoblues
05-16-2007, 12:23 AM
I suppose you at least have a specific argument, nm, or are you just trying to start some shit with me?



You have no room to talk about someone being ignorant.

BTW, you haven't exactly impressed me either.

Psychoblues
05-23-2007, 10:22 PM
Obviously you are perpetrating your ignorance on any that will listen to you.



:clap: :laugh2:

I'm laughing. Are you still trying to silence me?

You make me sick at my stomach as you propose yourself to be actually American.