Here's a quote for you....

[Binky]

Humor is a reminder that no matter how high the throne one sits on, one sits on one's bottom. ~Taki


:laugh2::laugh2:

[Binky]

Above all else: go out with a sense of humor. It is needed armor. Joy in one's heart and some laughter on one's lips is a sign that the person down deep has a pretty good grasp of life. ~Hugh Sidey

[Binky]

Laughter is an instant vacation. ~Milton Berle

[HogTrash]

LOL!...OK Binky, I get the messege. :thumb:

[Binky]

LOL!...OK Binky, I get the messege. :thumb:



Go search for some funny quotes Hog. And come back to us laughin'. :coffee:

[Binky]

"My formula for living is quite simple. I wake up in the morning and go to bed at night. In between, I occupy myself as best I can." Cary Grant.

[Binky]

"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Samuel Adams quote
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“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
Samuel Adams quote

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“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”
Samuel Adams quote
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“The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
Samuel Adams quote
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“Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty”
Samuel Adams quote

[Binky]

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
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“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“No government ought to be without censors; and where the press is free no one ever will.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“I have seen enough of one war never to wish to see another”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“Information is the currency of democracy.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind.”
Thomas Jefferson quote
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“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...”
Thomas Jefferson quote

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[Mr. P]

Man who farts in church sits in his own pew. ~ some Chinese guy.:laugh2:

[Binky]

" It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government."
Alexander Hamilton
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"Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike."
Alexander Hamilton
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"There is a certain enthusiasm in liberty, that makes human nature rise above itself, in acts of bravery and heroism."
Alexander Hamilton
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"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
Alexander Hamilton
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“Power over a man's subsistence is power over his will.”
Alexander Hamilton quote
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" Ah, this is the constitution," he said. "Now, mark my words. So long as we are a young and virtuous people, this instument will bind us together in mutual interests, mutual welfare, and mutual happiness. But when we become old and corrupt, it will bind no longer."
Alexander Hamilton quote...

[Binky]

John Adams..............

"Fear is the foundation of most governments."
John Adams
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"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense."
John Adams
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" Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write."
John Adams
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"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."
John Adams
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"Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom."
John Adams
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"The proposition that the people are the best keepers of their own liberties is not true. They are the worst conceivable, they are no keepers at all; they can neither judge, act, think, or will, as a political body. "
John Adams
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"No man who ever held the office of president would congratulate a friend on obtaining it."
John Adams
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"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. "
John Adams, Journal, 1772
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"Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives."
John Adams, Letter to Benjamin Rush, 18 April 1808
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'Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it."

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776
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"Modesty is a virtue that can never thrive in public."
John Adams......
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John Adams quotes:
"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing.
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John Adams quotes:
"Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country."
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[KitchenKitten99]

Confucious say "He who laughs last must not get joke".

[Binky]

1ST ANNUAL GOOFY QUOTE AWARDS

Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?
Answer: "I would not live forever, because we should not live forever,
because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever,
but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever,"
Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest. [wanna bet on her hair color]?
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"Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the
world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but
not with all those flies and death and stuff,"
Mariah Carey [now we know why she's such a sensitive actress]
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"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of
your life,"
Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal
antismoking campaign.
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"I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body,"
Winston Bennett, University of Kentucky basketball forward.
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"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates
in the country,"
Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC. [it helps to read crime stats when
you're stoned]
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"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees,"
Jason Kidd, upon his drafting to the Dallas Mavericks.
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"That lowdown scoundrel deserves to be kicked to death by a jackass, and
I'm just the one to do it,"
A congressional candidate in Texas.
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"I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them.
There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians
were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."
John Wayne [just because they've been here 10,000 years, you'd think
they had rights or something]
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"Half this game is ninety percent mental."
Philadelphia! Phillies manager, Danny Ozark [Danny was never really good
at the stats part of baseball]
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"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities
in our air and water that are doing it."
George W. Bush, Governor
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"If you let that sort of thing go on, your bread and butter will be cut
right out from under your feet,"
Former British foreign minister, Ernest Bevin.
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"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
Dan Quayle [days like this....I really miss Dan]
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"It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or
another"
George Bush, US President
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"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
Lee Iacocca [not all of us can afford mink-lined oxygen masks, Lee]
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"I was provided with additional input that was radically different from
the truth. I assisted in furthering that version,"
Colonel Oliver North, from his Iran-Contra! testimony. [Lied. Say it
slowly, Ollie...L-I-E-D]
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"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like
Norman Einstein,"
Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback & sports analyst.
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"We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of
people."
Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC Instructor.
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"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
George Bush, US President
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"We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
Al Gore, VP
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"Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas."
Keppel Enderbery
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"The loss of life will be irreplaceable."
Dan Quayle
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"I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have
is that I didn't study my Latin harder in school so I could converse with
those people."
"It is wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago!"
Dan Quayle, VP
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"Hawaii is a unique state. It is a small state. It is a state that is by
itself. It is different from the other 49 states. Well, all states are
different, but it's got a particularly unique situation."
Dan Quayle, VP [they made him swim home after that one]
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"Your food stamps will be stopped effective March 1992 because we
received notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if
there is a change in your circumstances."
Department of Social Services, Greenville, South Carolina [right after
you call the New York Times]
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"We apologize for the error in last week's paper in which we stated that
Mr. Arnold Dogbody was a defective in the police force. We meant, of
course, that Mr. Dogbody is a detective in the police farce."
Correction Notice in the Ely Standard, a British newspaper
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"If somebody has a bad heart, they can plug this jack in at night as
they go to bed and it will monitor their heart throughout the night. And
the next morning, when they wake up dead, there'll be a record."
Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman [and they'll cut off your food stamps]

[Binky]

“When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before.”
Mae West quotes
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" It's not the men in my life that counts--it's the life in my men.”
Mae West quote
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" I speak two languages, Body and English.”
Mae West quote
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“I've been in more laps than a napkin.”
Mae West quote (Not a doubt in my mind that she had)
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“A hard man is good to find.”
Mae West quote (A no class lassy)
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“Good sex is like good bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.”
Mae West quote

[Binky]

:laugh2::laugh2:

"Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.”
Benny Hill quotes

[Binky]

:laugh2::laugh2:

“I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure”


Similar Quotes. About: Funny quotes.

[Binky]

:lol::laugh2:

" A line is a dot that went for a walk. ”
Paul Klee quotes

[revelarts]

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
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“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”
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“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”
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“Information is the currency of democracy.”
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“Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.”
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thanks for posting

These quotes are so profound today.

But somehow many people still somehow believe it's just the OTHER party that has the bad traits. Not that large unaccountable Gov't itself is a breeding ground for homegrown despotism.

[revelarts]

John Adams..............

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"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. "
John Adams, Journal, 1772
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John Adams quotes:
"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing.
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John Adams quotes:
"Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country."
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Awesome

[revelarts]

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Lord Acton


Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern.
Lord Acton


Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.
Lord Acton

Socialism means slavery.
Lord Acton


The man who prefers his country before any other duty shows the same spirit as the man who surrenders every right to the state. They both deny that right is superior to authority.
Lord Acton


There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion.
Lord Acton


There is no error so monstrous that it fails to find defenders among the ablest men.
Lord Acton


To be able to look back upon one's past life with satisfaction is to live twice.
Lord Acton

The more corrupt the state the more it legislates.
Tacitus

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong
Voltaire

A man who says that no patriot should attack the war until it is over... is saying no good son should warn his mother of a cliff until she has fallen.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

If you do not understand a man you cannot crush him. And if you do understand him, very probably you will not.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

If I can put one touch of rosy sunset into the life of any man or woman, I shall feel that I have worked with God.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

[revelarts]

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
George Bernard Shaw


A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
Yogi Berra


A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
Bill Cosby


I did not have three thousand pairs of shoes, I had one thousand and sixty.
Imelda Marcos


Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?
Will Rogers

Christmas is the time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell government what they want and their kids pay for it.
Richard Lamm

Talk is cheap - except when Congress does it.
Cullen Hightower

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Winston Churchill

The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern.
Lord Acton

You don't pay taxes - they take taxes.
Chris Rock

It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.
Ronald Reagan

In politics stupidity is not a handicap.
Napoleon Bonaparte

A promising young man should go into politics so that he can go on promising for the rest of his life.
Robert Byrne

The more you observe politics, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other.
Will Rogers

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Groucho Marx

I've searched all the parks in all the cities and found no statues of committees.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

[revelarts]

The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.
Woodrow Wilson

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin D. Roosevelt

Politics ought to be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.
Mohandas Gandhi

If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly.
Gilbert K. Chesterton

The best way out of a difficulty is through it.
Will Rogers

[revelarts]

Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.
Lord Acton


"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of
civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
--Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.

"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection
with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am
not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of
Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their
balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against
the principles of liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry,
1799.


"We wish not to meddle with the internal affairs of any country,
nor with the general affairs of Europe." --Thomas Jefferson to
C. W. F. Dumas, 1793.


"The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no
passion or principle but that of gain." --Thomas Jefferson to
Larkin Smith, 1809.


"The most sacred of the duties of a government is to do equal and
impartial justice to all its citizens." --Thomas Jefferson: Note
in Tracy's, "Political Economy," 1816.


“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”
Thomas Jefferson

[revelarts]

Long one that applies to the "rights" thread I believe but I'll post it here.

it's a passage from
The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude
by Etienne de la Boetie

....One never pines for what he has never known; longing comes only after enjoyment and
constitutes, amidst the experience of sorrow, the memory of past
joy. It is truly the nature of man to be free and to wish to be so,
yet his character is such that he instinctively follows the
tendencies that his training gives him.
Let us therefore admit that all those things to which he is
trained and accustomed seem natural to man and that only that is
truly native to him which he receives with his primitive,
untrained individuality. Thus custom becomes the first reason for
voluntary servitude. Men are like handsome race horses who first
bite the bit and later like it, and rearing under the saddle a while
soon learn to enjoy displaying their harness and prance proudly
beneath their trappings. Similarly men will grow accustomed to
the idea that they have always been in subjection, that their
fathers lived in the same way; they will think they are obliged to
suffer this evil, and will persuade themselves by example and
imitation of others, finally investing those who order them
around with proprietary rights, based on the idea that it has
always been that way.
There are always a few, better endowed than others, who feel
the weight of the yoke and cannot restrain themselves from
attempting to shake it off: these are the men who never become
tamed under subjection and who always, like Ulysses on land
and sea constantly seeking the smoke of his chimney, cannot
prevent themselves from peering about for their natural
privileges and from remembering their ancestors and their
former ways. These are in fact the men who, possessed of clear
minds and far-sighted spirit, are not satisfied, like the brutish
mass, to see only what is at their feet, but rather look about them,
behind and before, and even recall the things of the past in order
to judge those of the future, and compare both with their present
condition. These are the ones who, having good minds of their
own, have further trained them by study and learning. Even if
liberty had entirely perished from the earth, such men would
invent it. For them slavery has no satisfactions, no matter how
well disguised....

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You can find the whole thing here...
http://mises.org/resources/1218
I'm not on board with all the Mises thought but, it's a great place to start from IMO.

[Palin Rider]

Professor: Would you rather defend a client who committed a crime malum in se or malum prohibitum?

Student: Neither. I'd rather defend a client who's innocent.

[revelarts]

“Americans used to roar like lions for liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security.”
Norman Vincent Peale (1898 –1993), American Christian preacher and author

"A Party member lives from birth to death under the eye of the Thought Police. Even when he is alone he can never be sure that he is alone. ...At the apex of the pyramid comes Big Brother. Big Brother is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration."
George Orwell (1903-1950) (Eric Arthur Blair), (book: 1984)

“Since information gives power, access to personal files can lead to unreasonable pressures, even blackmail, especially against those with the least resources, people who depend upon public programs, for example. Big Brother isn't a camera. Big Brother is a computer.”
C.J. Howard, political novel “Cybercash”

[revelarts]

The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal"
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Advice to Youth


"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil"
Plato, Dialogues, Phaedo - Greek author & philosopher in Athens (427 BC - 347 BC)


"I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher- ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service."
General Smedley Butler. USMC (Ret.)

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Whenever a people... entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens."
A Framer - Anonymous 'framer' of the US Constitution - Source: Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791

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"I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to succeed, but I am bound to live by the light that I have. I must stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong."
Abraham Lincoln

[revelarts]

"The Democrats think Republicans are stealing elections. The Republicans think Democrats are stealing elections. And those of us independent of the two old parties know they are both right."
Kevin Zeese

"Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates." Gore Vidal

"Elections are held to delude the populace into believing that they are participating in government."
Gerald F. Lieberman

"each candidate behaved well in the hope of being judged worthy of election. However, this system was disastrous when the city had become corrupt. For then it was not the most virtuous but the most powerful who stood for election, and the weak, even if virtuous, were too frightened to run for office."
Niccolo Machiavelli
(Italian writer and statesman, Florentine patriot, author of 'The Prince',


"An election cannot give a country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as two peas in the same pod" - Franklin D. Roosevelt

"There is one category of advertising which is totally uncontrolled and flagrantly dishonest: the television commercials for candidates in Presidential elections."
David Ogilvy (Scottish born British military intelligence officer and later top advertising executive, 1911-1999)

[revelarts]

vdouble post

[Nukeman]

All these are by the same person lt me know if you know who!!!!!



-An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.

-Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.

-God gave us the gift of life; it is up to us to give ourselves the gift of living well.


-I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

-In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another.

-It is better to risk saving a guilty man than to condemn an innocent one.

-It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

-Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.

[revelarts]

All these are by the same person lt me know if you know who!!!!!



-An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.

-Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.

-God gave us the gift of life; it is up to us to give ourselves the gift of living well.


-I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

-In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another.

-It is better to risk saving a guilty man than to condemn an innocent one.

-It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

-Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.

Great Quotes
I had to look up the author.

[revelarts]

"The Jesus that men want to see is not the Jesus they really need to see."
~G. Campbell Morgan


"It is a poor sermon that gives no offense; that neither makes the hearer displeased with himself nor with the preacher"
~George whitefield


"We have a God who delights in impossibilities."
~ Billy Sunday


“Out of one hundred men, one will read the Bible, the other ninety-nine will read the Christian.”
~ D. L. Moody

“Care more for a grain of faith than a ton of excitement.”
~ Charles H. Spurgeon

[revelarts]

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.
-Unknown

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the Bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe..corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money powers of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed”
– Abraham Lincoln
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs"
–Thomas Jefferson
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered"
– Thomas Jefferson

[revelarts]

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

Thomas Jefferson

[namvet]

man who play pool with woman get balls racked - me

[revelarts]

"They had their cynical code worked out. The public are swine; advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill-bucket".
- George Orwell


"Tis a Mistake to think this Fault [tyranny] is proper only to Monarchies; other Forms of Government are liable to it, as well as that. For where-ever the Power that is put in any hands for the Government of the People, and the Preservation of their Properties, is applied to other ends, and made use of to impoverish, harass, or subdue them to the Arbitrary and Irregular Commands of those that have it: There it presently becomes Tyranny, whether those that thus use it are one or many."
- John Locke -


"The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues, and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else....Their purpose, in brief, is to make docile and patriotic citizens, to pile up majorities, and to make John Doe and Richard Doe as nearly alike, in their everyday reactions and ways of thinking, as possible."
- H. L. Mencken


"Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward."
- Henry David Thoreau - "Civil Disobedience.

[revelarts]

Truth never damages a cause that is just.
-Mahatma Gandhi

Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence.
Leonardo da Vinci

Worse than apathy is defeatism. The defeatist recognizes the problem that the apathetic person doesn't see, yet has convinced himself that there is nothing he can do and therefore washes his hands of all responsibility.
Laurence Overmire

[Palin Rider]

As long as you brought up Gandhi,

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are nothing like your Christ."

[Mr. P]

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Sounds like ole Tom would like the Tea Party folks. :salute:

[Palin Rider]

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Sounds like ole Tom would like the Tea Party folks. :salute:


He also grew pot on his plantation. :420:

[Mr. P]

He also grew pot on his plantation. :420:
I have no problem with that.

[revelarts]

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
-Gandhi

I wonder if that might apply somewhat to Christians too?

[revelarts]

Darker Quote

“We have shot an amazing number of people, but to my knowledge, none has ever proven to be a threat,”
Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal
Speaking of Afghanistan Checkpoints, 2010

[Mr. P]

"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens." ~Ben Stein

[Mr. P]

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."~Cicero

Will we heed the past and save our Country, our republic, or suffer the same end ?

[Palin Rider]

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."~Cicero

Will we heed the past and save our Country, our republic, or suffer the same end ?

Misquote. Cicero did NOT say "lest Rome become bankrupt." He said "lest Rome fall." :slap:

[revelarts]

I suddenly realized I had joined the wrong mob.
Lucky Luciano

After learning of the corruption of Wall Street,
Luciano allegedly stated his remorse over his choice to become a gangster versus a bankster after spending a day on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in the 1940s.
Before being deported to Italy due to crimes he committed as a gangster.

[Mr. P]

Political Correctness (PC)=Public Cancer....and it's TERMINAL. ~Mr. P

[revelarts]

"Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes and the opportunities of fraud growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could reserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

Those truths are well established. They are read in every page which records the progression from a less arbitrary to a more arbitrary government, or the transition from a popular government to an aristocracy or a monarchy."

James Madison the father of the constitution and 4th president of the U.S..

[revelarts]

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance.

James Madison

[red states rule]

"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

Ann Coulter

[revelarts]

If this spirit shall ever be so far debased as to tolerate a law not obligatory on the legislature, as well as on the people, the people will be prepared to tolerate anything but liberty.


A government that does not trust it's law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.


I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.

It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.


All men having power ought to be mistrusted.


James Madison

[red states rule]

“Liberals seem to assume that, if you don't believe in their particular political solutions, then you don't really care about the people that they claim to want to help”


Thomas Sowell

[Nukeman]

Man’s mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not. His body is given to him, its sustenance is not. His mind is given to him, its content is not. To remain alive, he must act, and before he can act he must know the nature and purpose of his action. He cannot obtain his food without a knowledge of food and of the way to obtain it. He cannot dig a ditch-or build a cyclotron-without a knowledge of his aim and of the means to achieve it. To remain alive, he must think.

John Galt.....

[Nukeman]

“Just as I support my life, neither by robbery nor alms, but by my own effort, so I do not seek to derive my happiness from the injury or the favor of others, but earn it by my own achievement. Just as I do not consider the pleasure of others as the goal of my life, so I do not consider my pleasure as the goal of the lives of others. Just as there are no contradictions in my values and no conflicts among my desires-so there are no victims and no conflicts of interest among rational men, men who do not desire the unearned and do not view one another with a cannibal’s lust, men who neither make sacrifice nor accept them.

[fj1200]

“... I do not seek to derive my happiness from the injury or the favor of others, but earn it by my own achievement.

Nice quote, sounds like golf. Play to the best of your abilities within the rules and do not root against another player.

[red states rule]

Obama never had a birth certificate problem. He has a spending problem. He has a redistribution of wealth problem. He has a socialism problem."

Rush Limbaugh

[Kathianne]

quote of the day:


Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

— C. S. Lewis

[revelarts]

"If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal.
If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative.
If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate.
If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist."
— Joseph Sobran

[SassyLady]

"If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal.
If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative.
If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate.
If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist."
— Joseph Sobran

And if you want government to own you, you're a progressive.
-----SassyLady

[red states rule]

And if you want government to own you, you're a progressive.
-----SassyLady

If you think it helps you, and America, if your employer gets hit with a huge tax bill, then you are a liberal.

[SassyLady]

If you think it helps you, and America, if your employer gets hit with a huge tax bill, then you are a liberal.

If you want George Soros to be World Emperor, then you are a progressive.
-----SassyLady

[red states rule]

If you want George Soros to be World Emperor, then you are a progressive.
-----SassyLady

If you believe tax and spend liberalism has done a great job in California then you are a liberal.

[SassyLady]

If you believe tax and spend liberalism has done a great job in California then you are a liberal.

If you live in California and have a non-government job, non-union job, you most likely a conservative.

[red states rule]

If you live in California and have a non-government job, non-union job, you most likely a conservative.

If you think companies should sit back and do nothing when the government wants to tax them out of business and are outraged when the company moves overseas to avoid those taxes - you are a liberal

[revelarts]

"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies."
Adolf Hitler - (1889-1945) 5 - Source: Mein Kampf, p. 197(?) 14th Edition.


"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

"Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac."
George Orwell


"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. "
James Madison


"Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."
George Washington

[red states rule]

If you believe it is obscene that oil companies make about ten cents per gallon in profit off the sale of one gallon of gasoline, but there is nothing wrong with the government making about 45 to 60 cents per gallon in taxes off the same gallon of gfas - you are a liberal

[revelarts]

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
Tolstoy


"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
Upton Sinclair


"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."
Adolph Hitler

[revelarts]

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
Henry A. Kissinger, New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973


"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."
Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged.

[red states rule]

"Since the advent of modern feminism women have been told that they can have it all: Hot husbands, lots of babies, high profile career, nice house, great bodies, all that stuff. And whenever a woman comes along and appears to have it all, they shoot her down. Especially when the woman happens to be a conservative."

Rush Limbaugh

[revelarts]

They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen.
Huey Long



"The Democratic Party and the Republican Party were just like the old patent medicine drummer that used to come around our country. He had two bottles of medicine. He'd play a banjo and he'd sell two bottles of medicine.

One of those bottles of medicine was called High Popalorum and another one of those bottles of medicine was called Low Popahirum.

Finally somebody around there said is there any difference in these bottles of medicines? 'Oh,' he said, 'considerable. They're both good but they're different,' he said.

'That High Popalorum is made from the bark off the tree that we take from the top down. And that Low Popahirum is made from the bark that we take from the root up.'

And the only difference that I have found between the Democratic leadership and the Republican leadership was that one of 'em was skinning you from the ankle up and the other from the ear down — when I got to Congress."

Huey Long

[gabosaurus]

If you live in California and have a non-government job, non-union job, you most likely a conservative.

My dad has a non-union job. He is hardly a conservative.
I am not a member of a union. As you know, I am very conservative. :p

[Jess]

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, It's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope. Which is what I do, And that enables you to laugh at life's realities.”

“As you partake of the world's bill of fare,
that's darned good advice to follow.
Do a lot of spitting out the hot air.
And be careful what you swallow.”


Dr. Seuss:cool:

[Abbey Marie]

If women's breasts were on their backs, slow dancing would be even more fun.

(Can't remember the author)

[J.T]

'Germany will reach its goal of being home... of being home to all Germans throughout the world'
-Triumph des Willens

'There is no permanent revolution that does not lead to complete anarchy. Just as the world does not live by war, so its people do not live by revolution. There is nothing great on this earth which lasts thousands of years and has come about in decades. The tallest tree has had the longest growth period. What withstands centuries only becomes strong in centuries.'
-from the fuhrer's proclamation, read by wagner

'truth is the foundation on which the power of the press stands and falls.'
-dietrich

'It may be good to have power based on arms, but it is better and more joyful to win and to keep the hearts of the people'
-Joseph Goebbels

[Jess]

The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think.


The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

[revelarts]

Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.

Thomas Jefferson

[revelarts]

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.

An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

Most bad government has grown out of too much government.


I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

Thomas Jefferson

[Binky]

Hitler quotes................

“Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler)
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“What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler)
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“The man who has no sense of history, is like a man who has no ears or eyes”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler)
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“Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler) ***
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“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler) ***
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“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler)
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“The art of reading consists in remembering the essentials and forgetting non essentials.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler), Mein Kampf (http://www.debatepolicy.com/work/quotes/2049624)
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“Woman's world is her husband, her family, her children and her home. We do not find it right when she presses into the world of men.”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler)
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“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”
― Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/30691.Adolf_Hitler), Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/work/quotes/2744060)
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"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."
Adolf Hitler (http://www.debatepolicy.com/quotes/quotes/a/adolfhitle382802.html)

[Little-Acorn]

Every year, more of them die, and more of us are born.

[Binky]

Obama quotes......

“I've got daughters. Nine years old and six years old. First of all, I'm gonna teach them about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them PUNISHED with a baby.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) Sooo..........does this mean he'd allow them to get an abortion?
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“I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
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“There is no excuse for not trying.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama)
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“Over the last fifteen months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been to fifty-seven states. I think, one left to go.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) LOLOLOLOL! Darn.........I must have forgotten we had more states than what I thought. LOLOLOLOL!
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“At the end of the day, the circumstances of your life-- what you look like,where you come from,how much money you have,what you've got going on at home--none of that is an excuse... where you are right now doesnt have to determine where you'll end up. No ones writthen your destiny for you, because here in America, you write you own destiny.You make your own future.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) Yep, just ask Charles Manson. He has been living his self made destiny for the last few decades.
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“What makes a man is not the ability to have a child but having the courage to raise one.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) Yep, so very true.
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“Don't let your failures define you.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama) Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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“I wish the country had fewer lawyers and more engineers.”
― Barack Obama (http://www.debatepolicy.com/author/show/6356.Barack_Obama), The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream (http://www.debatepolicy.com/work/quotes/1716451) That would be a huge plus.

[chloe]

God sometimes allows us to feel anger so we'll recognize when we're being mistreated. But even when we experience true injustices in our lives, we must not vent our anger in an improper way.

Joyce Meyer

[revelarts]

Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none. ~William Shakespeare

Government ask me why it's so hard for me to trust them,
and i ask them why is it so hard to keep a promise.
- unknown


Many people say that government is necessary because some men cannot be trusted to look after themselves, but anarchists say that government is harmful because no men can be trusted to look after anyone else.
~Nicolas Walter, About Anarchism



Put your trust in God; but be sure to keep your powder dry.
Oliver Cromwell (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/o/olivercrom382740.html)

One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.
Thomas Sowell (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomassowe395709.html)

To restore the trust of the people, we must reform the way the government operates.
Arnold Schwarzenegger (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/arnoldschw167627.html)



Trust, but verify.
Ronald Reagan (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag147717.html)

[Binky]

"If you don't like the way your life is going, then get up off your backside and do something positive to straighten it out." Me, myself and I........

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"Good, or bad, it is what it is." Me, myself and I.

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"How's that working out for ya?" Me, myself and I.

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"Always leave 'em laughing." Me, myself and I.

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"Share a smile with the world." Me, myself and I.

[Binky]

"Jerry, let's not ask for the moon when we have the stars." Bette Davis in her role as Charlotte in the movie Now, Voyager.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-KGiwGn1d8&feature=related

[Binky]

sorry, had to delete what was a double post.

[Jess]

People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.

[red states rule]

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
Ronald Reagan (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag147689.html)

[Jess]

GREAT TRUTHS

1. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress. -- John Adams

2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain

3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain

4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill

5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw

6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -- G. Gordon Liddy

7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. -- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. -- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

9. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -- Frederic Bastiat, French economist(1801-1850)

11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. -- Ronald Reagan (1986)

12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -- Will Rogers

13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J. O'Rourke

14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -- Voltaire (1764)

15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -- Pericles (430 B.C.)

16. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain (1866)

17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. -- Anonymous

18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. -- Ronald Reagan

19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. -- Mark Twain

21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

22. There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress. -- Mark Twain

23. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. -- Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

24. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -- Thomas Jefferson

25. We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. -- Aesop

[Jess]

FIVE BEST SENTENCES

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for...another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work, because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation!

[red states rule]

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag393026.html)

[revelarts]

Labour was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased.
Adam Smith

Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest barbarism but peace, easy taxes, and a tolerable administration of justice: all the rest being brought about by the natural course of things.
Adam Smith


To feel much for others and little for ourselves; to restrain our selfishness and exercise our benevolent affections, constitute the perfection of human nature.
Adam Smith

What can be added to the happiness of a man who is in health, out of debt, and has a clear
conscience?

Adam Smith

Thomas Jefferson: 1816 “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”



BANKER: Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1828 “Allow me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who writes the laws.”

President Andrew Jackson: 1829-1837 to the banksters trying to create a central bank “You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.”

President Woodrow Wilson: 1916 “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

President Franklin Roosevelt: Nov. 21, 1933, “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”


"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.." —Bill Clinton USA Today--3-11-93, page 2a 


"If a nation values anything more than freedom, then it will lose it's freedom; and the irony of it is 
that if it is comfort and security that it values, it will lose that too. Unknown Americans must decide: Are we to be governed by Americans or by an International organization ? I, for one, owe no 
allegiance to the United Nations nor will I give it any. I obey only the U.S. Constitution. You had 
better think about this issue, for if the U.N. can violate the Sovereignty of Haiti, Iraq and other 
countries, it can violate ours...The United States may not be the top dog 15 years from now. U.N. 
security council resolutions, backed by say Chinese soldiers, could be aimed at us."
-Charley 
Reese-Orlando Sentinel 


"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great 
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion 
for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if 
we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more 
sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty 
of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination 
practiced in past centuries"
--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting 
in June of 1991 


"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the 
commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. 
The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate 
the four centers of power--Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."
--U.S. Senator 
Barry Goldwater from his 1964 book "No Apologies" 


"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up 
to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!" 

--George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in1957

[red states rule]

We in government should learn to look at our country with the eyes of the entrepreneur, seeing possibilities where others see only problems

Ronald Reagan

[revelarts]

Love is the hardest lesson in Christianity; but, for that reason, it should be most our care to learn it.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen387103.html)

Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen382962.html)

O Lord, help me not to despise or oppose what I do not understand.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen107413.html)

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen380840.html)

A good End cannot sanctify evil Means; nor must we ever do Evil, that Good may come of it.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen385940.html)

Avoid popularity; it has many snares, and no real benefit.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen159503.html)

For death is no more than a turning of us over from time to eternity.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen104810.html)

Force may make hypocrites, but it can never make converts.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen133607.html)

Force may subdue, but love gains, and he that forgives first wins the laurel.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen384664.html)


Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.
William Penn (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williampen169609.html)

[red states rule]

<DT class=quote>Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. (http://www.debatepolicy.com/quote/33739.html)

<DD class=author>Ronald Reagan </DD>

[revelarts]

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself.
Thomas Paine

The first question which the priest and the Levite asked was: "If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?" But... the good Samaritan reversed the question: "If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?"
Martin Luther King, Jr.

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi

"AS NIGHTFALL DOES NOT COME ALL AT ONCE, NEITHER DOES OPPRESSION. IN BOTH INSTANCES, THERE IS A TWILIGHT WHEN EVERYTHING REMAINS SEEMINGLY UNCHANGED. AND IT IS IN SUCH TWILIGHT THAT WE ALL MUST BE MOST AWARE OF CHANGE IN THE AIR - HOWEVER SLIGHT - LEST WE BECOME UNWITTING VICTIMS OF THE DARKNESS."
JUSTICE WILLIAM O. DOUGLAS

[red states rule]

<DT class=quote>History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. (http://www.debatepolicy.com/quote/33929.html)

<DD class=author>Ronald Reagan, Address to the Nation, Jan 16, 1984 </DD>

[revelarts]

Milton Friedman (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/milton_friedman_quote_4f9d)
I am myself persuaded, on the basis of extensive study of the historical evidence, that... the severity of each of the contractions - 1920-21, 1929-33, and 1937-38 - is directly attributable to acts of commission and omission by the Reserve authorities and would not have occurred under earlier monetary and banking arrangements.


James A. Garfield (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/james_garfield_quote_a405)


Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.


John F. Hylan (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/john_hylan_quote_7e8e) nicknamed "Red Mike", was the Mayor of New York City from 1918 to 1925.


The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.


Andrew Jackson (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/andrew_jackson_quote_4f92)


Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.


Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/charles_lindbergh_quote_a15c)


This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed. The trusts will soon realize that they have gone too far even for their own good. The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power. This they will be able to do by taking control of Congress. Wall Streeters could not cheat us if you Senators and Representatives did not make a humbug of Congress... The greatest crime of Congress is its currency system. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill. The caucus and the party bosses have again operated and prevented the people from getting the benefit of their own government.


Louis McFadden, (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/louis_mcfadden_quote_5034) McFadden was elected as a Republican Representative to the Sixty-fourth Congress and to the nine succeeding Congresses. He served as Chairman of the United States House Committee on Banking and Currency during the Sixty-sixth through Seventy-first Congresses, or 1920-31.


It was not accidental [the 1929 stock-market “crash”]. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. ... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all.



J. P. Morgan (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/j._p._morgan_quote_1c60)


Capital must protect itself in every way... Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd.



Wright Patman (http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/wright_patman_quote_951c)

The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury...and has created out of nothing a ... debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest.

[revelarts]

"Abuse of power isn't limited to the bad guys of other nations, either. It happens in our country if we're not vigilant. At Waco, was there really an urgency to get those people out of the compound at that particular time?...At Ruby Ridge, there was one guy in a cabin on top of the mountain. Was it necessary for federal agents to go up there, shoot a 14-year-old in the back and shoot a woman with a child in her arms? What kind of mentality does that? When will the agents of the FBI say, `Wait a second! I don't want to shoot people -- we can wait them out, because eventually they're going to go to the market?' Whether you agree with someone's philosophy or politics, they are still human beings and deserve to be treated as such."
—Clint Eastwood, in Parade magazine, January 12, 1997

[red states rule]

“One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it.”


Ronald Reagan

[revelarts]

"We’re the dark matter. We’re the force that orders the universe but can’t be seen,”
a strapping Navy SEAL, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said in describing his unit.

<article> --The CIA’s armed drones and paramilitary forces have killed dozens of al-Qaeda leaders and thousands of its foot soldiers. But there is another mysterious organization that has killed even more of America’s enemies in the decade since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. CIA operatives have imprisoned and interrogated nearly 100 suspected terrorists in their former secret prisons around the world, but troops from this other secret organization have imprisoned and interrogated 10 times as many, holding them in jails that it alone controls in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Since 9/11, this secretive group of men (and a few women) has grown tenfold while sustaining a level of obscurity that not even the CIA has managed.
</article>
The SEALs are just part of the U.S. military’s Joint Special Operations Command, known by the acronym JSOC, which has grown from a rarely used hostage rescue team into America’s secret army. When members of this elite force killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in May, JSOC leaders celebrated not just the success of the mission but also how few people knew their command, based in Fayetteville, N.C., even existed...--


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-secret-america-a-look-at-the-militarys-joint-special-operations-command/2011/08/30/gIQAvYuAxJ_story.html

[red states rule]

The doctor begins to lose freedom. . . . First you decide that the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government. But then doctors aren’t equally divided geographically. So a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him, you can't live in that town. They already have enough doctors. You have to go someplace else. And from here it's only a short step to dictating where he will . .. All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man's working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it's a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay. And pretty soon your son won't decide, when he's in school, where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him where he will go to work and what he will do.


Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine (recording (1961)

[cadet]

My favorite quote-

"I don't judge people, I label them!"
-Nukman

[red states rule]

Another good one I heard (can't remember where)

"A friend in need is a pest"

[revelarts]

"Can the real Constitution be restored? Probably not. Too many Americans depend on government money under programs the Constitution doesn’t authorize, and money talks with an eloquence Shakespeare could only envy. Ignorant people don’t understand The Federalist Papers, but they understand government checks with their names on them."
— Joseph Sobran

[red states rule]

“There are no constraints on the human mind, no walls around the human spirit, no barriers to our progress except those we ourselves erect.”

Ronald Reagan

[revelarts]

Government control gives rise to fraud, suppression of Truth, intensification of the black market and artificial scarcity. Above all, it unmans the people and deprives them of initiative, it undoes the teaching of self-help...I look upon an increase in the power of the State with the greatest fear because, although while apparently doing good by minimizing exploitation, it does the greatest harm to mankind by destroying individuality which lies at the heart of all progress...
GANDHI

Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest...
GANDHI

[red states rule]

If Thomas Jefferson thought taxation without representation was bad, he should see how it is with representation.
Rush Limbaugh (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/rushlimbau153261.html)

[revelarts]

“To declare that in the administration of criminal law the end justifies the means to declare that the Government may commit crimes in order to secure conviction of a private criminal would bring terrible retribution.”

“Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent.”

“The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”

“Those who won our independence... valued liberty as an end and as a means.
They believed liberty to be the secret of happiness and courage to be the secret of liberty.”


Louis D. Brandeis
Supreme Court Justice

[Jess]

"Remember some miracles take time. Adversity does not lead us away from our best ambitions, but closer to them.

The impossible just takes a little longer." - Art Berg

[red states rule]

I want anyone who believes in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness to succeed. And I want any force, any person, any element of an overarching Big Government that would stop your success, I want that organization, that element or that person to fail. I want you to succeed.

Rush Limbaugh (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/rushlimbau409221.html)

[Jess]

Love is like a game of poker: it starts with a pair, she gets a flush, he shows diamonds and it ends with a full house. ;)

[Jess]

The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom.

[Jess]

Conscience is that still, small voice that is sometimes too loud for comfort.;)

[Jess]

You may have tangible wealth untold;
Caskets of jewels and coffers of gold.
Richer than I you can never be --
I had a mother who read to me.

- Strickland Gillilan

[Binky]

If your life is filled with all sorts of crapola, climb atop the poop pile, assess where you've been, decide what you wish to toss out, look towards the direction you want to move in and start digging your way to a better life. Me, myself and I.

[cadet]

This one's from cornhog, i couldn't exactly find it, but it was awesome, and this is the gist of it.

"I may disagree with their views, I might think they're completely wrong, but I'll fight to the death to protect their right to say it."

Love it, I'm not going to fight for idiots in politics, I'm going to fight for the people.

[revelarts]

<dl><dt>Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.</dt><dd class="author">Abraham Lincoln (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Abraham_Lincoln/)
</dd></dl>

[revelarts]

The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.


That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise.


Whatever you are, be a good one.

Abraham Lincoln

[Gunny]

God sometimes allows us to feel anger so we'll recognize when we're being mistreated. But even when we experience true injustices in our lives, we must not vent our anger in an improper way.

Joyce Meyer


Correct. One must choose the appropiate strategy, tactics and weaponry with which to exctract revenge.:devilgun:

[ConHog]

The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.


That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise.


Whatever you are, be a good one.

Abraham Lincoln

My dad said the same thing, it's why I chose to work to become such a top notch asshole.

[Shadow]

I cannot always control what is going on around me but I can always control what I think about what is going on around me. ~ Lucy MacDonald

[Shadow]

Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying,
"I will try again tomorrow."
- Mary Anne Radmacher

[Shadow]

Every tomorrow has two handles. We can take hold of it with the handle of anxiety or the handle of faith. - Henry Ward Beecher

[revelarts]

"You know your country is dying when you have to make a distinction between what is moral and ethical, and what is legal."
John De Armond

"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest!"
Anonymous

[Shadow]

Always look at what you have left. Never look at what you have lost.~ Robert H Schuller

Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.~ Chinese Proverb

Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.~Robert Lewis Stevenson<!--/gc-->

[Shadow]

Keep your face to the sunshine and you cannot see the shadow ~ Hellen Keller

Some folks never exaggerate-they just remember big ~Audrey Snead

[revelarts]

"To those American citizens thinking about helping Al Qaeda, please know what will come your way: death, detention, prosecution. If you are thinking about plotting with the enemy inside our country to do the rest of us harm, please understand what is coming your way: the full force of the law.


The law I am talking about is the law of armed conflict. You subject yourself to being held as an enemy of the people of the United States, interrogated about what you know and why you did what you did or planned to do, and you subject yourself to imprisonment and death. The reason you subject yourself to that regime is because your decision to turn on the rest of us and help a group of people who would destroy our way of life is not something we idly accept. It is not a common, everyday crime. It is a decision by you to commit an act of aggression against the rest of us."

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)

"To those American citizens thinking about helping Al Qaeda, please know what will come your way:
death, detention, prosecution."

In that order it seems.


Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

[Shadow]

The most valuable possession you can own is an open heart. The most powerful weapon you can be is an instrument of peace ~ Carlos Santana

[revelarts]

"They didn't even neglect, these Roman emperors, to assume generally the title of Tribune of the People, partly because this office was held sacred and inviolable and also because it had been founded for the defense and protection of the people and enjoyed the favor of the state. By this means they made sure that the populace would trust them completely, as if they merely used the title and did not abuse it. Today there are some who do not behave very differently; they never undertake an unjust policy, even one of some importance, without prefacing it with some pretty speech concerning public welfare and common good."



"Roman tyrants invented a further refinement. They often provided the city wards with feasts to cajole the rabble, always more readily tempted by the pleasure of eating than by anything else. The most intelligent and understanding amongst them would not have quit his soup bowl to recover the liberty of the Republic of Plato. Tyrants would distribute largess, a bushel of wheat, a gallon of wine, and a sesterce: and then everybody would shamelessly cry, "Long live the King!" The fools did not realize that they were merely recovering a portion of their own property and that their ruler could not have given them what they were receiving without having first taken it from them."




The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude
Etienne de la Boetie (http://mises.org/literature/author/106/Etienne-de-la-Boetie)

[revelarts]

"...Let us therefore understand by logic, if we can, how it happens that this obstinate willingness to submit has become so deeply rooted in a nation that the very love of liberty now seems no longer natural..."


"..It is incredible how as soon as a people becomes subject, it promptly falls into such complete forgetfulness of its freedom that it can hardly be roused to the point of regaining it, obeying so easily and so willingly that one is led to say, on beholding such a situation, that this people has not so much lost its liberty as won its enslavement..."


The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude
Etienne de la Boetie (http://mises.org/literature/author/106/Etienne-de-la-Boetie)

[revelarts]

"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."


The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude
Etienne de la Boetie (http://mises.org/literature/author/106/Etienne-de-la-Boetie)

[revelarts]

“[W]ell, you know, the Soviet Union is gone, the Warsaw Pact is gone, you know, I'm running out of enemies.”
--Colin Powell
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm (http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm)

“We have agreed that [al-Qaeda] is not a group but a notion...The fight against that all-mighty ubiquitous myth deliberately linked to Islam is of great advantage for the Americans as it targets the oil-rich Muslim regions.”
--Leonid Shebarshin, ex-chief of the Soviet Foreign Intelligence Service during meeting at the Rand Corporation
http://mosnews.com/news/2005/03/21/shebarsh.shtml

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

[QUOTE=revelarts;568918]“[W]ell, you know, the Soviet Union is gone, the Warsaw Pact is gone, you know, I'm running out of enemies.”--Colin Powell
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm (http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm)

No he is not, when he came out for bamboy he made me one and most patriots one too if they have any sense at all. I used to be a huge fan of his...Not anymore since he stabbed his supporters in the back by supporting obama the socialist. -Tyr

[aboutime]

[QUOTE=revelarts;568918]“[W]ell, you know, the Soviet Union is gone, the Warsaw Pact is gone, you know, I'm running out of enemies.”--Colin Powell
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm (http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/state/2004/052601.htm)

No he is not, when he came out for bamboy he made me one and most patriots one too if they have any sense at all. I used to be a huge fan of his...Not anymore since he stabbed his supporters in the back by supporting obama the socialist. -Tyr

Ya gotta remember...."Blood, is Thicker than Water". Sorry to sound like the racist Obama types call me. But Powell HAD to back Obama, or face the wrath of being called an UNCLE TOM by Jesse, and Al...and of course. BARRY the Liar.

[revelarts]

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http://z.about.com












(http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blflags.htm)



http://z.about.com


"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"


"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"


"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"


"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."


</tbody>


"When we were making the law, when we were writing the literature and the mathematics the grandfathers of Blair and little Bush were scratching around in caves"


About Bush: "the leader of the international criminal gang of bastards."


About Bush and Rumsfeld: "Those only deserve to be hit with shoes."


Britain "is not worth an old shoe."


"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."


"These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying"


"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

"On this occasion, I am not going to mention the number of the infidels who were killed and the number of destroyed vehicles. The operation continues"

"We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted."

"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."




Quotes From the Iraqi Information Minister
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf
aka 'Baghdad Bob

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

<tbody>



http://z.about.com












(http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blflags.htm)



http://z.about.com


"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"


"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"


"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"


"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."


</tbody>


"When we were making the law, when we were writing the literature and the mathematics the grandfathers of Blair and little Bush were scratching around in caves"


About Bush: "the leader of the international criminal gang of bastards."


About Bush and Rumsfeld: "Those only deserve to be hit with shoes."


Britain "is not worth an old shoe."


"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."


"These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying"


"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

"On this occasion, I am not going to mention the number of the infidels who were killed and the number of destroyed vehicles. The operation continues"

"We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted."

"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."




Quotes From the Iraqi Information Minister
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf
aka 'Baghdad Bob

Surely the guy MUST BE a relative of obama. Lying like that made me think of obama immediately.-;)

[aboutime]

Whether some are believers in a GOD or not. Those of us who do believe, and have faith know.
God really does have a great sense of humor. Just look in the nearest mirror, and see the proof.

[Mr. P]

"Life has no remote. Get up and change it yourself!!" :2up:

[revelarts]

"Don't let anybody make you think that God chose America as his divine messianic force-to-be, a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with judgment, and it seems that I can hear God saying to America, YOU ARE TOO ARROGANT! If you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I'll place it in the hands of a NATION THAT DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MY NAME! Be still and know that I AM GOD."
Martin Luther King




"In all this hawk talk, something is missing. We are not told how many innocent Iranians we will have to kill as we go about smashing their nuclear program and defenses. Nor are we told how many more soldiers we will need for the neocons' new war, nor how long they will have to fight, nor how many more wings we should plan for at Walter Reed, nor when it will be over - if ever.
Moreover, where does Bush get the authority to launch a war on a nation that has not attacked us? As few believe Iran is close to a nuclear weapon, while four neighbors - Russia, India, Pakistan and Israel, not to mention the United States - already have the bomb, what is America's justification for war?"
Pat Buchanan

[revelarts]

"The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything. Except what is worth knowing. Journalism, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands."
Oscar Wilde 1854-1900 Irish novelist, playwright, poet, short story writer

"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out...without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."
H.L. Mencken 1880-1956 American journalist, satarist, social critic

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russel 1872-1970 British philosopher, historian


"If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions."
- Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
- Albert Einstein

"I have a very strong feeling that the opposite of love is not hate-it's apathy. It's not giving a damn."
- Leo Buscaglia

"Remember there's no such thing as a small act of kindness. Every act creates a ripple with no logical end."
- Scott Adams

[revelarts]

"The debate hers isn't only how to protect the country. It's how to protect our values.". - "If cruelty is no longer declared unlawful, but instead is applied as a matter of policy, it alters the fundamental relationship of man to government. It destroys the whole notion of individual rights. The Constitution recognizes that man has an inherent right, not bestowed by the state or laws, to personal dignity, including the right to be free of cruelty. It applies to all human beings, not just in America--even those designated as 'unlawful enemy combatants.' If you make this exception the whole Constitution crumbles.":

Alberto J. Mora, former Navy General Counsel
- Source: Feb. 27, 2006 issue of The New Yorker, entitled "The Memo".



"It bothers me that the executive branch is taking the amazing position that just on the president's say-so, any American citizen can be picked up, not just in Afghanistan, but at O'Hare Airport or on the streets of any city in this country, and locked up without access to a lawyer or court just because the government says he's connected somehow with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. That's not the American way. It's not the constitutional way.":

Laurence Tribe - Carl M. Loeb University Professor and Professor of Constitutional Law,
Harvard University
- Source: interview on ABC's Nightline

[revelarts]

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."
-- Sir Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)

"A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both."
- James Madison

"You do not wake up one morning a bad person. It happens by a thousand tiny surrenders of self-respect to self-interest."
- Robert Brault

[aboutime]

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. A. Lincoln

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

"The debate hers isn't only how to protect the country. It's how to protect our values.". - "If cruelty is no longer declared unlawful, but instead is applied as a matter of policy, it alters the fundamental relationship of man to government. It destroys the whole notion of individual rights. The Constitution recognizes that man has an inherent right, not bestowed by the state or laws, to personal dignity, including the right to be free of cruelty. It applies to all human beings, not just in America--even those designated as 'unlawful enemy combatants.' If you make this exception the whole Constitution crumbles.":

Alberto J. Mora, former Navy General Counsel
- Source: Feb. 27, 2006 issue of The New Yorker, entitled "The Memo".



"It bothers me that the executive branch is taking the amazing position that just on the president's say-so, any American citizen can be picked up, not just in Afghanistan, but at O'Hare Airport or on the streets of any city in this country, and locked up without access to a lawyer or court just because the government says he's connected somehow with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. That's not the American way. It's not the constitutional way.":

Laurence Tribe - Carl M. Loeb University Professor and Professor of Constitutional Law,
Harvard University
- Source: interview on ABC's Nightline
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This points to the inherent danger in giving such authority, no in giving such supreme dictatorial power to a single government official- the President . As I have stated previously no man can be trusted with such power, even worse is the fact no democrat should be further compounded by no leftist democrat should be. Hell, I do no even trust that power with a Republican president!! Obama having that authority is like giving it to budding Stalin!!! Further is the fact that obama having authority to drone strike enemies of the government wil expand to his having authority to do so here.
All this points towards a move to a dictatorial government that voids our Constitution!!!!! No shocked that its being moved , enlarged at a very rapid pace by obama himself.-Tyr

[revelarts]

"Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them. There is almost no kind of outrage, torture, imprisonment without trial, assassination, and bombing of civilians, which does not change its moral color when it is committed by our side. The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."
- George Orwell

"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law."
- Frederic Bastiat

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."
- George Bernard Shaw

[revelarts]

"The State is the coldest of all cold monsters, and coldly it tells lies, and this lie drones on from its mouth: 'I, the State, am the people'."
Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus spoke Zarathustra, 1883

"A belligerent state permits itself every such misdeed, every such act of violence, as would disgrace the individual."
- Sigmund Freud

"Politics is a means of preventing people from taking part in what properly concerns them."
Paul Valery (1871-1945)

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
-- Tacitus, Roman senator and historian (A.D. c.56-c.115)

"Overload the police with victimless crimes and other minutiae and eventually only creeps and bullies remain cops."
-- Rick Gaber

"Government, when it is examined, turns out to be nothing more nor less than a group of fallible men with the political force to act as though they were infallible."
-- Robert LeFevre, in his essay, Aggression is Wrong

[revelarts]

The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom.
– Justice William O. Douglas

The more laws and restrictions there are, the poorer the people become.
– Lao Tsu

The police can't stop an intruder, mugger, or stalker from hurting you. They can pursue him only after he has hurt or killed you. Protecting yourself from harm is your responsibility, and you are far less likely to be hurt in a neighborhood of gun-owners than in one of disarmed citizens – even if you don't own a gun yourself. – Harry Browne


The pattern is as old as human life. The new rulers use more and more force, more police, more soldiers, trying to enforce more efficient control, trying to make the planned economy work by piling regulations on regulations, decree on decree. The people are hungry and hungrier. And how does a man on this earth get butter? Doesn't the government give butter? But government does not produce food from the earth; Government is guns. It is one common distinction of all civilized peoples, that they give their guns to the Government. Men in Government monopolize the necessary use of force; they are not using their energies productively; they are not milking cows. To get butter, they must use guns; they have nothing else to use. – Rose Wilder Lane

But when no risk is taken there is no freedom. It is thus that, in an industrial society, the plethora of laws made for our personal safety convert the land into a nursery, and policemen hired to protect us become selfserving busybodies. – Alan Watts (1915-1973), Tao: The Watercourse Way, 1975


The main political problem is how to prevent the police power from becoming tyrannical. This is the meaning of all the struggles for liberty. – Ludwig von Mises (1881-1973), Austrian Economist and Author

[revelarts]

It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error;
it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.
– Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954), U.S. Supreme Court Justice, American Communications Assn v. Douds, 1950


Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency.
– Charles Evans Hughes (1862-1948), Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court, Home Building & Loan Assn v. Blairsdell, 1934

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff125003.html)
Thomas Jefferson (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson.html)
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/cslewis136296.html)
C. S. Lewis (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/c_s_lewis.html)
When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/robertahe134100.html)
Robert A. Heinlein (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/robert_a_heinlein.html)
The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/maximilien184685.html)
Maximilien Robespierre (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/maximilien_robespierre.html)
There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/charlesdem387495.html)
Charles de Montesquieu (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_montesquieu.html)
It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alexanderh383897.html)
Alexander Hamilton (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/alexander_hamilton.html)
Anywhere, anytime ordinary people are given the chance to choose, the choice is the same: freedom, not tyranny; democracy, not dictatorship; the rule of law, not the rule of the secret police. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/tonyblair466647.html)
Tony Blair (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/tony_blair.html)

In a world without the law of God, you have chaos, oppression, tyranny, and everyone doing what is right in their own eyes. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/randallter390866.html)
Randall Terry (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/randall_terry.html)
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A man that seeks to walk the path of truth will naturally see and avoid every path leading to tyranny.- My grandfather..

[revelarts]

A good end cannot sanctify evil means; nor must we ever do evil, that good may come of it. – William Penn (1644-1718), Some Fruits of Solitude in Reflections and Maxims

The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.
– James Madison (1751-1836)

No free people can lose their liberties while they are jealous of liberty. But the liberties of the freest people are in danger when they set up symbols of liberty as fetishes, worshipping the symbol instead of the principle it represents.
– Wendell Phillips (1811-1884), in Liberty and the Great Libertarians (C. Spradling)


There is nothing new in the realization that the Constitution sometimes insulates the criminality of a few in order to protect the privacy of us all.
– Antonin Scalia, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Arizona v. Hicks, 3/3/87

No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than any [constitutional] provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government.
– Roger B. Taney (1777-1864), U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Ex parte Milligan, 1866

[revelarts]

Anti-federalist papers

Federal Farmer, no. 4

...It is true, we are not disposed to differ much, at present, about religion: but when we are making a constitution, it is to be hoped, for ages and millions yet unborn, why not establish the free exercise of religion, as a part of the national compact. There are other essential rights, which we have justly understood to be the rights of freemen; as freedom from hasty and unreasonable search warrants, warrants not founded on oath, and not issued with due caution, for searching and seizing men's papers, property, and persons. The trials by jury in civil causes...

[fj1200]

"Those Founding Fathers were just pothead conservatives looking for their next high."

-unknown

[revelarts]

From Atlas Shrugs,
not a full on fan of Ayn Rand but she hits it out of the park in some areas.
apply these to our other rights as well, she mentions that a gov't that assume the right to take your life, also assumes it has the right to take your property. How about your guns, your privacy, your papers, children's educations, health etc etc


"What I actually am, Mr. Rearden, is a policeman. It is a policeman's duty to protect men from criminals—criminals being those who seize wealth by force. It is a policeman's duty to retrieve stolen property and return it to its owners. But when robbery becomes the purpose of the law, and the policeman's duty becomes, not the protection, but the plunder of property—then it is an outlaw who has to become a policeman."

Ragnar Danneskjöld




"Who is the public? What does it hold as its good? There was a time when men believed that 'the good' was a concept to be defined by a code of moral values and that no man had the right to seek his good through the violation of the rights of another. If it is now believed that my fellow men may sacrifice me in any manner they please for the sake of whatever they believe to be their own good, if they believe that they may seize my property simply because they need it - well, so does any burglar. There is only this difference: the burglar does not ask me to sanction his act."

Hank Rearden




"If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition—which you cannot force—that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there—I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine—I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me—use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action."

Hank Rearden

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff109180.html)
Thomas Jefferson (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson.html)





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Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benjaminfr122732.html)
Benjamin Franklin (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/benjamin_franklin.html)




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The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/albertcamu169197.html)
Albert Camus (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/albert_camus.html)




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The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/f/frederickd201580.html)
Frederick Douglass (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frederick_douglass.html)





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Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire122588.html)
Voltaire (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/voltaire.html)





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Clever tyrants are never punished. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire145511.html)
Voltaire (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/voltaire.html)








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[gabosaurus]

The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are.

The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while.

Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride."

And we … kill those people.

"Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real."

It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love.

The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride.

Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.

--Bill Hicks

[Voted4Reagan]

Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.

--Bill Hicks

That worked real well for us leading up to WWI and WWII didnt it Gabby?

Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong — Ronald Reagan

[revelarts]

- Samuel Chase, Supreme Court Justice 1804 signer of The Declaration of Independence.
"The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts."

Oliver Wendel Holmes, Horning v DC 254 US 35,138 (1920)
"The jury has the power to bring in a verdict in the teeth of both law and facts."

- U.S. v Moylan 417 F.2d 1002 at 1006 (1969)
"If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by the judge and contrary to the evidence. This power of the jury is not always contrary to the interests of justice."

[red states rule]

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag183965.html)

Ronald Reagan (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag183965.html)

[Drummond]

- Samuel Chase, Supreme Court Justice 1804 signer of The Declaration of Independence.
"The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts."

Oliver Wendel Holmes, Horning v DC 254 US 35,138 (1920)
"The jury has the power to bring in a verdict in the teeth of both law and facts."

- U.S. v Moylan 417 F.2d 1002 at 1006 (1969)
"If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by the judge and contrary to the evidence. This power of the jury is not always contrary to the interests of justice."

I'm absolutely staggered by that last one. Is that really possible in America ?!?

I can't imagine that it could ever happen in England. Any jury trying that on over here would no doubt receive a reprimand from the judge, a demand then made to do their jobs properly ... and if the jury were incapable of doing that, a mistrial would be declared.

I'm not sure - because I've never heard of it ever happening !!! - but I'd be willing to bet that the jurors would risk legal action being taken against them, for bringing the court proceedings into disrepute ....

[Thunderknuckles]

I'm absolutely staggered by that last one. Is that really possible in America ?!?

I can't imagine that it could ever happen in England. Any jury trying that on over here would no doubt receive a reprimand from the judge, a demand then made to do their jobs properly ... and if the jury were incapable of doing that, a mistrial would be declared.

I'm not sure - because I've never heard of it ever happening !!! - but I'd be willing to bet that the jurors would risk legal action being taken against them, for bringing the court proceedings into disrepute ....
Yes, it's called Jury Nullification.

I don't see how it could not happen in England. If a jury decides someone is innocent, even in the face of overwhelming evidence against them, does the judge tell them sorry, you're wrong...guilty!

[aboutime]

Yes, it's called Jury Nullification.

I don't see how it could not happen in England. If a jury decides someone is innocent, even in the face of overwhelming evidence against them, does the judge tell them sorry, you're wrong...guilty!


Thunderknuckles. Unfortunately today. More judges are, and have been overruling Juries more often. But generally, not about guilt, or non-guilt, but rather the Terms of incarceration, or punishments.
Either way. I suspect. When judges overrule juries in this kind of case. The judge should then be challenged by a court review board, or Bar examination board.
The system is....by no means..Un-flawed.

[Thunderknuckles]

Thunderknuckles. Unfortunately today. More judges are, and have been overruling Juries more often. But generally, not about guilt, or non-guilt, but rather the Terms of incarceration, or punishments.
Either way. I suspect. When judges overrule juries in this kind of case. The judge should then be challenged by a court review board, or Bar examination board.
The system is....by no means..Un-flawed.
I must clarify that yes, a Judge can overrule a Jury verdict but they cannot overrule a jury acquittal based on nullification.

Back to Drummond, I did find this on Wikipedia:
"Perhaps the best example of modern-day jury equity in England and Wales (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_and_Wales) was the acquittal of Clive Ponting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Ponting), on a charge of revealing secret information, under section 2 of the Official Secrets Act 1911 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Secrets_Act_1911) in 1985. Mr Ponting's defence was that the revelation was in the public interest. The trial judge directed the jury that "the public interest is what the government of the day says it is" – effectively a direction to the jury to convict. Nevertheless, the jury returned a verdict of not guilty."

[revelarts]

I'm absolutely staggered by that last one. Is that really possible in America ?!?

I can't imagine that it could ever happen in England. Any jury trying that on over here would no doubt receive a reprimand from the judge, a demand then made to do their jobs properly ... and if the jury were incapable of doing that, a mistrial would be declared.

I'm not sure - because I've never heard of it ever happening !!! - but I'd be willing to bet that the jurors would risk legal action being taken against them, for bringing the court proceedings into disrepute ....

the principal CAME for England.
There were cases were the English juries defied the court and the King, and made the concept part of common law, the Edward Bushnell Jury case for William Penn in London being one of the main ones.

Edward Bushell was an ordinary man whose dedication to an ideal marks a great turning point in human justice. In 1670, Bushell was jury foreman at the sedition trial of William Penn in London. Penn, who later went on to found the American colony of Pennsylvania, was on trial for being a Quaker and speaking publicly. No evidence was introduced at the trial regarding the content of Penn's speech, but a great deal of emphasis was placed on the fact that the King had taken a personal interest in the trial and wanted Penn condemned. It took Bushell and the jury less than fifteen minutes of deliberation to return a verdict of Not Guilty (actually, the verdict merely said that Penn was guilty of speaking to an assembly - not a crime even then). The presiding judge was apoplectic. He ordered the jury back into deliberations and fined them all forty marks (about two years' wages). When they again returned the same verdict, he threatened to have Bushell's nose cut off for defying the King. He said "Gentlemen, you shall not be dismissed till we have a verdict the court will accept; and you shall be locked up without meat, drink, fire and tobacco. You shall not think thus to abuse the court; we will have a verdict, or by the help of God, you shall starve for it."

The entire jury spent several nights in London's infamous Newgate prison, but uniformly refused to return a verdict of Guilty. When the judge demanded to know when Bushell would change his mind the answer he received was unequivocal. "Never," replied Bushell. Eventually, Penn was set free and the jury imprisoned. Bushell spent several weeks in one of the worst prisons in England. On appeal, England's Chief Justice, Justice Vaughn, affirmed that a jury must be free to speak its conscience and cannot be fined for it's verdict. Bushell's case, 84 Eng. Rep. 1123; 6 State Trials 999 (C.P. 1670).

The courage of Edward Bushell and his fellow jurors established for all time the independence of juries in the Common Law nations. The most cherished part of our legal system was given weight and validity by sixteen common men possessed of an uncommon courage. And at their head was Edward Bushell.

[Drummond]

Ok, folks, I have to concede on this one.

Evidence that this happened way back in 1670, of course (!!!), did not, of itself, convince me I was wrong !! You could always argue that the law, and court procedures, are not static, they'll evolve over time.

But I did my research, and ... OK, I see it does happen ... if rarely ! The Clive Ponting case, I just barely remember. Bruce Grobbellar, likewise.

Have found this link ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jan/22/law.jurytrials

To be proved wrong by the Guardian .. it's humiliating !! Still ....


Even more striking was the acquittal at the Old Bailey in 1990 of Pat Pottle and Michael Randle, on a charge of helping the Soviet spy George Blake escape from Wormwood Scrubs in 1963, enabling him to flee to Russia. This was not just a case of a jury disregarding the judge's clear - and legally correct - instruction that the two men had no defence. The jury knew for a fact that they were guilty - not least because they had published a book entitled The Blake Escape - How We Freed George Blake and Why. As if that wasn't enough, Pottle and Randle, defending themselves, confirmed their responsibility for the crime and made impassioned speeches from the dock. They argued that bringing them to court 26 years after the crime was an abuse of the legal process and showed a political motive behind their prosecution. The jury was clearly impressed and acquitted, knowing that it was delivering a perverse verdict, showing two fingers to a system that would behave in this way.

I still say it's rare. But I was wrong this time. Thanks for correcting me.

[red states rule]

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[Noir]

"I became a vegan the day I watched a video of a calf being born on a factory farm. The baby was dragged away from his mother before he hit the ground. The helpless calf strained its head backwards to find his mother. The mother bolted after her son and exploded into a rage when the rancher slammed the gate on her. She wailed the saddest noise I&rsquo;d ever heard an animal make, and then thrashed and dug into the ground, burying her face in the muddy placenta. I had no idea what was happening respecting brain chemistry, animal instinct, or whatever. I just knew that this was deeply wrong. I just knew that such suffering could never be worth the taste of milk and veal. I empathized with the cow and the calf and, in so doing, my life changed."
James McWilliams

[aboutime]

"I became a vegan the day I watched a video of a calf being born on a factory farm. The baby was dragged away from his mother before he hit the ground. The helpless calf strained its head backwards to find his mother. The mother bolted after her son and exploded into a rage when the rancher slammed the gate on her. She wailed the saddest noise I’d ever heard an animal make, and then thrashed and dug into the ground, burying her face in the muddy placenta. I had no idea what was happening respecting brain chemistry, animal instinct, or whatever. I just knew that this was deeply wrong. I just knew that such suffering could never be worth the taste of milk and veal. I empathized with the cow and the calf and, in so doing, my life changed."
James McWilliams


Noir. You must really be a wretch when someone catches a fish, and the screaming that comes from the Gills, as the fish yells "HOOK!....HOOK.....HOOK!" fills the air as the fisherman plops the formerly WET creature down, twists the hook from his mouth, and becomes the AFTERNOOD DELIGHT???

[gabosaurus]

"If you want something said, ask a man.
If you want something done, ask a woman."

--Margaret Thatcher

[tailfins]

"If you want something said, ask a man.
If you want something done, ask a woman."

--Margaret Thatcher

There's no mention of something done PROPERLY.

[aboutime]

There's no mention of something done PROPERLY.



tailfins. You must forgive gabby for not mentioning that. It's not part of her vocabulary. Much like Honesty, and Truth.

[red states rule]

"A hippie is someone who looks like Tarzan, walks like Jane and smells like Cheetah"

"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."


"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat."


"Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence."


"A taxpayer is someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take a civil-service exam."


Ronald Reagan

[aboutime]

If you are gonna burn OUR FLAG. At least, wrap yourself in it First!5190

[red states rule]

"One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it."

Ronald Reagan

[revelarts]

"One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it."
Ronald Reagan

i think Reagan might want to rethink that one.

[revelarts]

But the new rebel is a Skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it.
Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial oppression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book (about the sex problem) in which he insults it himself.
He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it.
As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time.
A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself.
A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie.
He calls a flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble.
The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts.
In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.

G. K. Chesterton

[aboutime]

i think Reagan might want to rethink that one.


rev. SO, dig him up, and ask him.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are.

The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while.

Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride."

And we … kill those people.

"Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real."

It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love.

The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride.

Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.

--Bill Hicks Utter rot, that Bill Hicks guy is a dumbass and likely a conman. Talking gobbley gook to impress people. Talk a bunch of crap that sounds good and looks like you really-really care and presto -you are a great enlightened hero to liberals and the dumbed down masses. -Tyr

[aboutime]

Utter rot, that Bill Hicks guy is a dumbass and likely a conman. Talking gobbley gook to impress people. Talk a bunch of crap that sounds good and looks like you really-really care and presto -you are a great enlightened hero to liberals and the dumbed down masses. -Tyr


Tyr. The really scary part of this is. There are so many uninformed people who will instantly believe everything Hicks says.

[revelarts]

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And as we renew ourselves here in our own land, we will be seen as having greater strength throughout the world. We will again be the exemplar of freedom and a beacon of hope for those who do not now have freedom.

25


To those neighbors and allies who share our freedom, we will strengthen our historic ties and assure them of our support and firm commitment. We will match loyalty with loyalty. We will strive for mutually beneficial relations. We will not use our friendship to impose on their sovereignty, for our own sovereignty is not for sale.

26


As for the enemies of freedom, those who are potential adversaries, they will be reminded that peace is the highest aspiration of the American people. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it; we will not surrender for it—now or ever.

27


Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act. We will maintain sufficient strength to prevail if need be, knowing that if we do so we have the best chance of never having to use that strength.

28


Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have. It is a weapon that we as Americans do have. Let that be understood by those who practice terrorism and prey upon their neighbors....


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...
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem.

9


From time to time, we have been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. But if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price.
10


We hear much of special interest groups. Our concern must be for a special interest group that has been too long neglected. It knows no sectional boundaries or ethnic and racial divisions, and it crosses political party lines. It is made up of men and women who raise our food, patrol our streets, man our mines and our factories, teach our children, keep our homes, and heal us when we are sick—professionals, industrialists, shopkeepers, clerks, cabbies, and truckdrivers. They are, in short, "We the people," this breed called Americans.
11


Well, this administration's objective will be a healthy, vigorous, growing economy that provides equal opportunity for all Americans, with no barriers born of bigotry or discrimination. Putting America back to work means putting all Americans back to work. Ending inflation means freeing all Americans from the terror of runaway living costs. All must share in the productive work of this "new beginning" and all must share in the bounty of a revived economy. With the idealism and fair play which are the core of our system and our strength, we can have a strong and prosperous America at peace with itself and the world.
12


So, as we begin, let us take inventory. We are a nation that has a government—not the other way around. And this makes us special among the nations of the Earth. Our Government has no power except that granted it by the people. It is time to check and reverse the growth of government which shows signs of having grown beyond the consent of the governed.
13


It is my intention to curb the size and influence of the Federal establishment and to demand recognition of the distinction between the powers granted to the Federal Government and those reserved to the States or to the people. All of us need to be reminded that the Federal Government did not create the States; the States created the Federal Government.
14


Now, so there will be no misunderstanding, it is not my intention to do away with government. It is, rather, to make it work—work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it.
15


If we look to the answer as to why, for so many years, we achieved so much, prospered as no other people on Earth, it was because here, in this land, we unleashed the energy and individual genius of man to a greater extent than has ever been done before. Freedom and the dignity of the individual have been more available and assured here than in any other place on Earth. The price for this freedom at times has been high, but we have never been unwilling to pay that price.
16


It is no coincidence that our present troubles parallel and are proportionate to the intervention and intrusion in our lives that result from unnecessary and excessive growth of government. It is time for us to realize that we are too great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams. We are not, as some would have us believe, doomed to an inevitable decline. I do not believe in a fate that will fall on us no matter what we do. I do believe in a fate that will fall on us if we do nothing. So, with all the creative energy at our command, let us begin an era of national renewal. Let us renew our determination, our courage, and our strength. And let us renew our faith and our hope...


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Ronald Reagan

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

But the new rebel is a Skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it.
Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial oppression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book (about the sex problem) in which he insults it himself.
He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it.
As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time.
A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself.
A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie.
He calls a flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble.
The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts.
In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.

G. K. Chesterton G.K. Chesterton was a certified genius! I've long been a true and great admirer of that man. Both my father and my grandfather had minds like that.. -Tyr

[revelarts]

http://www.juancole.com/images/2012/04/jqa.jpg




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[Robert A Whit]

I am still astounded at how many posters did not bother to learn the actual war strategy of G. W. Bush.

They for some odd reason downplay his desire for a free world vs a world he conquered for the benefit of goods from those lands.

Per them, Bush wanted treasure and freedom, pshaw. What good is that?

They refuse to read books by the men who fought the wars.

This puzzles me. Even if they say they don't believe the war makers, at least be well informed and read their books. Reading their books, even if you think they lie, you can be taken inside to see what really happened. I believe in cross checks. Thus just because Gen Franks the war commander reports a thing, I still want to cross check. I did it by reading an inside General's account that for all I knew was a rebuttal of Franks account. But he verified Franks claims. Franks tells you his view of why Bush went to war.

We supplied powerful air power for the Afghani people. They won fought the war. We could never win a war with just air power nor with not even a thousand of our men. Many of our men did many things for the Afghanis, but we were not the driver against the Taliban nor Al Qaeda.

READ

Don't go by these board blogs.

They are opinions. Fun for sure, but opinions.

Franks did not offer opinions other than if he stated he did. A General speaks out is a book hardly any of you heard of. READ

Bremers book was great. I still see the news claim Bremer disbanded the Army or that Franks had.

How can you disband an army that decided to toss off uniforms and haul ass?

Disband an army you could not identify??????

Bremere did not disband the leaders of the Saddam Govt. The Iraqis that stepped up and had meetings did that. Bremer could never have stopped them short of putting the new leaders in jail.

I suppose we ought to always keep the top leaders of the vanquished. I think that idea is sheer stupid.

Bush verified that Gen Franks told the truth in Bush's own book. Cheney also verified it and so did Rumsfeld.

Few realize the way Franks won both wars. Franks took on the job as top commander with one caveat. That he would manage it his way.

Bush gets blamed for the speech on the ship and the banner.

Who took the trouble to learn that had Bush not given that speech, world help was going to enter Iraq to help those people out? The UN was not about to enter Iraq until the major combat ended. Franks got into contact with Bush and asked Bush to step up and deliver that speech.

Major combat had ended. What happened after was not major, it was a few pitched battles by small units or maybe company sized elements dealing with rogues.

I hear Chemey smeared over the greet with joy comments.

Did we all forget that is just what took place?

READ

Not the news articles. They are left wing. They only report what they want to allow you to read.

Watch other nations news. DW from Berlin in English is great. RT sponsored by Russia is very informative. You can see how much Russia likes Obama for instance. I don't think Obama likes them at all. I don't believe Obama's public lies.

CSPAN will inform you too. Watch those jerks we elected play games in meetings.

Be informed or it will happen to us all again.

[Little-Acorn]

"No matter how hard you run in the rat-race, no matter how fast, even if you win...

"...you're still a rat."

[Robert A Whit]

"No matter how hard you run in the rat-race, no matter how fast, even if you win...

"...you're still a rat."

In context of what I posted, will you please explain what that means and what message you want us to know?

Who is the rat in your story?

[aboutime]

http://youtu.be/OflIVlzdpeo

If only we had someone like this today...that people paid as much attention to????

[revelarts]

The right to defy an unconstitutional statute is basic in our scheme. Even when an ordinance requires a permit to make a speech, to deliver a sermon, to picket, to parade, or to assemble, it need not be honored when it's invalid on its face. –
Potter Stewart (1915-1985), U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Walker v. Birmingham, 1967


The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now. –
South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905)

When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all. –
Justice William O. Douglas

The Constitution is not neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of people. – Justice William O. Douglas

Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency. –
Charles Evans Hughes (1862-1948), Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court, Home Building & Loan Assn v. Blairsdell, 1934


The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it. –
Felix Frankfurter, Graves vs. New York; 1939

[revelarts]

"A morsel of genuine history is a thing so rare as to be always valuable."
-- Thomas Jefferson -


"A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying, in other words, that he is wiser today than he was yesterday."
- Alexander Pope - (1688-1744) English poet


"He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper."
-Edmund Burke - (1729-1797) Irish-born British statesman

[revelarts]

Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency. –
Charles Evans Hughes
(1862-1948), Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court,
Home Building & Loan Assn v. Blairsdell, 1934

[Drummond]

"A morsel of genuine history is a thing so rare as to be always valuable."
-- Thomas Jefferson -


"A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying, in other words, that he is wiser today than he was yesterday."
- Alexander Pope - (1688-1744) English poet


"He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper."
-Edmund Burke - (1729-1797) Irish-born British statesman

Dunno about the current-day context(s) of that first one.

On the second quote ... well, Obama has had to considerably backpedal on his 'let's quit Iraq and leave them to their own devices' approach, now, hasn't he ? So tell me, what candid admissions of grave tactical error has Obama made to America, and the wider world, to date ??

On the third one .. Obama's definitely an antagonist, I'd have thought. He must antagonise decent, patriotic Americans on a daily basis !!!!!

[revelarts]

Dunno about the current-day context(s) of that first one.

There are things historical and current that people are little aware of and not believed.
which if understood would change a lot.



On the second quote ... well, Obama has had to considerably backpedal on his 'let's quit Iraq and leave them to their own devices' approach, now, hasn't he ? So tell me, what candid admissions of grave tactical error has Obama made to America, and the wider world, to date ??
On the third one .. Obama's definitely an antagonist, I'd have thought. He must antagonise decent, patriotic Americans on a daily basis !!!!!

Obama?

[revelarts]

“Some people in each successive generation believe that theirs is the one that has at last seen everything clearly, that their insights point to the truth, the final answer. Yet scientific discovery marches on and today’s truth will become tomorrow’s anecdotes.”
—Gerrit L. Verschuur, Interstellar Matters

[Shadow]

There is always room for improvement,It's the biggest room in the house ~ Louise Heath Leber

Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first,the lessons afterward. ~ Vernon Law

[gabosaurus]

One of the my teachers once told me that life is the only class where failure is essential to achieving success.

[revelarts]

John Maynard Keynes,
who famously responded to the charge of being inconsistent by noting,

“When I get new information, sir, I change my position.
What do you, sir, do with new information?”

[aboutime]

" It is, and has been proven that....it is impossible to hold an Intelligent conversation with anyone who has no Intelligence."

(a quote from aboutime)

[revelarts]

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
Nietzsche

quotequotequote

[revelarts]

For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
~ Robert Jastrow, in God and the Astronomer


The faith that does not come from reason is to be doubted, and the reason that does not lead to faith is to be feared,
~ G. Campbell Morgan, British evangelist, preacher and Bible scholar.

It is not only reasonable to question when it comes to matters of faith, but also responsible. If we are not open to questioning certain beliefs, held by ourselves or by others, whether secular or sacred, then we will be tossed about on the waves of popular opinion, or become potential victims of those wolves in sheep’s clothing who prey on the ignorance of others.
- G.S. West

It is impossible to reason without arriving at a Supreme Being. Religion is as necessary to reason, as reason is to religion.
~ George Washington


Faith certainly tells us what the senses do not, but not the contrary of what they see; it is above, not against them.
~ Blaise Pascal

Regularly, the Prophets appealed to evidence to justify belief in the biblical God or in the divine authority of their inspired message: Fulfilled prophecy, the biblical fact of miracles, the inadequacy of finite pagan deities to be the cause of such a large, well-ordered universe compared to the God of the Bible, and so forth. They did not say, “God said it, that settles it, and you should believe it!” They gave a rational defense for their claims.
- J.P. Moreland

[revelarts]

Reason is our soul’s left hand, Faith her right.
~John Donne

Faith is reason grown courageous.
~Sherwood Eddy

If there was no faith there would be no living in this world. We couldn’t even eat hash with safety.
~Josh Billings

In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don’t.
~Blaise Pascal

[LongTermGuy]

"If you like your Ebola, you can keep your Ebola."
-Barack Obama-

[revelarts]

"If you like your Ebola, you can keep your Ebola."
-Barack Obama-
:thumb:
Also
"If you Like your NSA spy, you can Keep your NSA spy."
Barack Obama

[aboutime]

"If you were dumb enough to vote for a liar twice, as you did for me. Then you will believe anything." Barack Obama, King, and Messiah of Ignorant Voters.

[PixieStix]

I'm here to get me some Obama bucks. That's what I'm doin, I'm here to git me some obama money ~some black dude that probably didn't even vote~

Q- Why should I help you? Why should my tax dollars go to help you?
A- Only because my ancestors came here and helped build this place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I79wUEqBdQc

Crazy..........crazy

~SHAKES MY HEAD AND WALKS AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER IN DISGUST~ Pixie

[revelarts]

“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
- Josef Stalin

[aboutime]

“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
- Josef Stalin



Most of us have already changed the author's name of that quote to...Obama. Probably because many of us know he gets permission for everything from the Muslim Bro-hood!

[revelarts]

“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance.”

James Madison

...........
Anti-Federalist Papers #58

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WILL THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BE GENUINELY REPRESENTATIVE?

....I conceive the position to be undeniable, that the federal government will be principally in the hands of the natural aristocracy...
...
Another observation is, that 'congress will have no temptations to do wrong'.
The men that make it must be very uninformed, or suppose they are talking to children.

In the first place, the members will be governed by all those motives which govern the conduct of men, and have before them all the allurements of offices and temptations to establish unequal burdens, before described.

In the second place, they and their friends, will find it for their interests to keep up large armies, navies, salaries, etc., and in laying adequate taxes.

In the third place, we have no good grounds to presume, from reason or experience, that it will be agreeable to their characters or views, that the body of the people should continue to have power effectually to interfere in the affairs of government.

But it is confidently added, that 'congress will not have it in their power to oppress or enslave the people; that the people will not bear it.'
It is not supposed that congress will act the tyrant immediately, and in the face of daylight. It is not supposed congress will adopt important measures without plausible pretenses, especially those which may tend to alarm or produce opposition. We are to consider the natural progress of things-that men unfriendly to republican equality will go systematically to work, gradually to exclude the body of the people from any share in the government, first of the substance, and then of the forms. The men who will have these views will not be without their agents and supporters.
...Probably they will be wise enough never to alarm, but gradually prepare the minds of the people for one specious change after another, till the final object shall be obtained.
Say the advocates (of the constitution), 'these are only possibilities'.
They are probabilities a wise people ought to guard against; ......


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Anti-Federalist Papers
The Address and Reasons of Dissent of the Minority of the Convention of Pennsylvania to their Constituents

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...Thus it appears that the liberties, happiness, interests, and great concerns of the whole United States, may be dependent upon the integrity, virtue, wisdom, and knowledge of 25 or 26 men_How unadequate and unsafe a representation! Inadequate because the sense and views of 3 or 4 millions of people diffused over so extensive a territory comprising such various climates products, habits, interests, and opinions, cannot be collected in so small a body; ....
and from the nature of the thing, men of the most elevated rank in life will alone be chosen. The other orders in the society, such as farmers, traders, and mechanics, who all ought to have a competent number of their best informed men in the legislature, will be totally unrepresented.

The representation is unsafe, because in the exercise of such great powers and trusts, it is so exposed to corruption and undue influence, by the gift of the numerous places of honor and emoluments at the disposal of the executive; by the arts and address of the great and designing; and by direct bribery.


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[revelarts]

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/f5427bf43785f181ce38ebf576cb1889c0b86527_m.jpg

[revelarts]

Right is right, even if everyone is against it,
and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.
William Penn

Love is the hardest lesson in Christianity;
but, for that reason, it should be most our care to learn it.
William Penn

[revelarts]

There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
— Mark Twain

“Within any important issue, there are always aspects no one wishes to discuss.”
― George Orwell

[revelarts]

“[To err is human, to forgive is divine] . . . but this does not make it desirable to make as many errors as possible.”
Roger Williams
Puritan teacher, founder of Rhode Island

“Enforced uniformity confounds civil and religious liberty and denies the principles of Christianity and civility. No man shall be required to worship or maintain a worship against his will.”
Roger Williams
Puritan teacher, founder of Rhode Island

[revelarts]

There's no future in time travel.
unknown

Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it.

Mark Twain

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, theory and practice are different.
unknown

[Drummond]

I don't believe in time travel.

Whether or not we ever devise a means to travel through time isn't actually the point ... for all I know, maybe Mankind will manage it someday. My point is that, even if we did, it'd be useless.

My five word proof as to the total impracticality of time travel, is this ... 'Everything Moves, All The Time'.

... and so it does. There's literally no such thing as 'stillness' in our Universe.

The Earth travels around 66,000 miles in the course of a single hour ... I think this describes its passage along its orbit. Add to that the Earth's rotational speed. Add to that the fact that the Sun we orbit, itself moves around the Galaxy. Add to that the constant movements of galaxies relative to each other, in what's thought to be a constantly expanding Universe.

Now consider: if any journey through time was made to witness any event ... it's not merely necessary to reach the right point in time, but the right LOCATION for it, as well. To travel one hour back in time, you also have to be a minimum of 66,000 miles distant to reach the location of that event.

The greater the time-jump, the greater the distance involved ...

If any form of 'anchoring' was to be contemplated .. how would it work ? Not via gravity, because gravity needs the normal flow of time to function. So ... there'd be the perpetual need to get to where you want to be...

Maybe I've miscalculated. But - I reckon that to go back to Dallas, 22nd November 1963, you'd have to reach it ... approximately 29 BILLION miles away, because that's where the Earth was, back then ....

.... best of luck .. !!! .....

[aboutime]

"Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators." Will Rogers.

And I would add...."LIARS as well." The same as U.S. Senators. Right Harry Reid?

And, I found one for Gabby, who has bragged about being so much more intelligent than the rest of us here:

"There is nothing as stupid as an educated man(woman) if you get him/her off the thing he was educated in." Will Rogers

[LongTermGuy]

*There is little hope for the black community....Liberalism has basically imprisoned their minds to the point of no return....It would be Interesting to hear how Allen West or Ben Carson would have addressed the Nation Last night...The Nation desperately needs more leaders like them....`

:salute:

[LongTermGuy]

`.......Who bum-rushed a cop with a frown
Six bullets later...he met his creator....
And his homies burned the town down.....`




`......There was once a cop from Missouri
Who went up before the grand jury
They had a big fight.... but didn't indict...
And the town burned down in a fury.`



`.......There once was a Ferguson thug,
who really just needed a hug.
But Jesse and Al and Obama their pal...
swept his history under the rug`

[revelarts]

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[revelarts]

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[revelarts]

U.S. Military Lawyers and Judges from as far back as 2003 warned against "enhanced interrogation" :

Maj. Gen. Jack Rives, the deputy judge advocate general of the Air Force 2003, He wrote in a February 2003 memo that several of the proposed techniques.
“on their face, amount to violations of domestic and criminal law and the UCMJ (e.g., assault) …”

Maj. Gen. Thomas Romig, Army judge advocate general, wrote in a March 2003 memo to the Department of the Air Force general counsel.
“I question whether this theory would ultimately prevail in either U.S. courts or in any international forum,”

Romig, now retired from the military, said in an recent interview,
“Torture is an international crime. It has no statute of limitations. I would not, if I were those people, travel to a foreign country,”

[revelarts]

"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little."
Edmund Burke

[revelarts]

I am for truth, no matter who tells it.
-Malcolm X

"He who dares not offend cannot be honest."
-Thomas Paine.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
-George Orwell

[tailfins]

Laughter is an instant vacation. ~Milton Berle

Outstanding quote

[revelarts]

I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
Isaac Newton

[revelarts]

Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.
Isaac Newton

[LongTermGuy]

``You can't remove terrorism from Islam without editing the Koran``

[revelarts]

Don’t ever wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get dirty, but the pig will enjoy it.
-Cale Yarborough

[LongTermGuy]

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[Jeff]

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Zappa is the man, use to go see him on Halloween night ( if I remember right ) every year ( well a few years :laugh: ) for some reason those days are very hazy ;):alcoholic::wine::boobies:;)

Hell our Motto was SEX DRUGS AND ROCK AND ROLL, back in the day

[LongTermGuy]

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[gabosaurus]

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[LongTermGuy]

`..............Just as when the stock market is closed, prices are undefined, if police aren't immediately present, law doesn’t exist.
Citizens with means to protect life and property allow law to exist during the time gap of no official law enforcement presence..........`

[revelarts]

Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock.

Wynn Cotlin (?)

[Bilgerat]

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[LongTermGuy]

​`Some lessons can't be taught...they must be lived to be understood....`

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

``You can't remove terrorism from Islam without editing the Koran``

All that dare try to edit it will be murdered! For that is a commandment in the stinking book. And over a billion maggots would gladly do that deed!

No sir, these people simply must be drastically reduced in numbers and beaten into being at least halfway civilized!
They set the standard and that standard is--"we either kill them or they kill us".. Pretty simple and brutal but its not one of our making!
They rely on our stupidity in not embracing that harsh reality and guess what?
We will not embrace it until its too late. I'll tell you why--the reason is they've allied with the traitorous dem party, infiltrated our government AND bought out enough of the mainstream media as to promote their propaganda and agenda.
They have set it so that to truly fight them we'd have to have a civil war first!

Game is rigged folks.. Best just prepare to protect yourself and your own family as this nation will fall from treason from within!
We've had six solid years of outright in the open treason at the highest levels and nobody has even batted an eye about it, so do not
expect a future justice nor a last minute charge to save the day.

You see they go into each nation and turn its government against the native citizens--examples France and Britain/Australia. Muslim have became a special protected class- even daring to criticize one has become against the law in Britain /Australia and can bring the authorities into action!!! Yet you can criticize a Christian all day long and who cares?? See the standard these ffing maggots set?
They have no honor, no sense of justice, no compassion , no mercy , no integrity--yet are heralded as a great religion!
They are a damn cult by every definition of the ffing word!

I spit on anybody that claims they are good people. They all worship the same ffing hate book folks! They are all taught to wear two faces, one loyal 100% to forced conversion of the entire world, the other face worn to deceive the stupid infidels!
That tactic is practiced in this nation far more than anywhere else on earth--they have the Federal government doing that for them..

Wake the hell up!!!!---Tyr

[sundaydriver]

Say and do something positive that will help the situation; it doesn't take any brains to complain. Robert Cook

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

To be made aware is to be forewarned,
to be forewarned is to be armed.



Consider this....-Tyr



More words related to "made aware"


reminded adj.

warned
advised
cautioned
forewarned
made aware
notified
prodded
prompted



warn verb. give notice of possible occurrence
acquaint
address
admonish
advise
advocate
alert
apprise
caution
clue
clue in
counsel
cry wolf
deprecate
direct
dissuade
enjoin
exhort
fill in
forbid
forearm
forewarn
give fair warning
give the high sign
give warning
guide
hint
inform
instruct
lay it out
make aware
notify
order
post
predict
prepare
prescribe
prompt
put on guard
recommend
remind
remonstrate
reprove
signal
suggest
summon
tell
threaten
tip
tip off
urge
wise up


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[LongTermGuy]

"Mental wounds not healing, who and what's to blame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train"--Gary Cooper.............

[LongTermGuy]

"If you want to make an omelette, you have to break some eggs"--Thor

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[LongTermGuy]

"......Vladimir Putin - Former KGB operative. Believed to have personally conducted several assassinations.

Benjamin Netanyahu - Former Israeli paratrooper and commando with combat experience.

Abdullah II ibn al-Hussein - King of Jordan. Served as a troop commander in the British Army. A trained parachutist.
Attended the Armored Officer's Advanced Course at Fort Knox, and in 1986, he became commander of a tank company. Served with the Royal Jordanian Air Force in its Anti-Tank Wing, where he was trained to fly Cobra attack helicopters. In 1993, he assumed command of Jordan's special forces......"

`Barack Obama - Unknown`

[LongTermGuy]

~ "O'bummer and his puppet masters are not stupid nor mental cases. That is a serious and dangerous misconception......

`He pretends publically to be a moron and court jester as a cover. His goal is to drain the American taxpayer, U.S. Corporations, and the United States of wealth & assets and give them to the third world who are now increasingly occupying the United States.

`He is committed to establishing O'bummer Federal Law and Agency regulations. The U.S. Senate and U.S. House are still asleep at the wheel." ~

[LongTermGuy]

"Pillows on the bed............One pillow for your head, one between your knees to ease pressure on the hips. Got it, I understand those two.

What are the other 14 pillows for?".........

[LongTermGuy]

`...."Roc.......Are You Sure You Are O-Bee K-Bee?".........................`

[revelarts]

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[aboutime]

A friend of mine in the Navy back in the eighties, enjoyed this quote when anyone wanted to argue with him.

"Chuck you Farley. Go back off in your own Jack yard!":laugh:

Just the first THREE words work as well.:laugh:

[revelarts]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."
George Orwell

[LongTermGuy]

``Peaceful muslims live in cartoons only``

[revelarts]

I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.
Lily Tomlin

The best mind-altering drug is the truth.
Lily Tomlin

[LongTermGuy]

"President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people...."

Clint Eastwood...


"Respect your efforts, respect yourself. Self-respect leads to self-discipline. When you have both firmly under your belt, that's real power."

Clint Eastwood...


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[revelarts]

"We have to condemn publicly the very idea that some people have the right to repress others. In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers ... we are ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations."
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[revelarts]

Not everything has a name. Some things lead us into a realm beyond words.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn