do americans regret the right to own guns

[hunter10]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun. i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns, wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.

[darin]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun.

There isn't easy access to guns across the nation. Some of the more fascist cities and states make gun ownership nearly impossible. Research the crime statistics in those places.

Gun crime is only part of the problem. See, in places where there aren't guns, KNIFE crime rates are VERY HIGH. When Criminals want to commit a crime, they use what they can. Gun, Knife, Cap-n-trade, etc.


i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns,

Am sorry, but you don't KNOW most ordinary Americans. Your generalization is pretty terrible; would be like saying most 'ordinary' Americans don't buy Pizza Hut pizza.

You'd have to define 'ordinary' first.



wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.

Why is knife-crime 'better' than gun crime? Is Cancer death better than heart-disease? Assaulted or dead is just that. The method doesn't matter. I take a lot of comfort in knowing if somebody came at me with a knife I have a .40 pistol with which to shoot them.

[PostmodernProphet]

but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns

????....I think it's pretty obvious that 99.99% of guns are owned by ordinary Americans......it's the .01% owned by people involved in gun violence that are the problem.......

[Little-Acorn]

If some guy is thinking about crashing into your house, stealing all your stuff, and raping your daughter, he is more likely to think twice (and maybe not do it) if he knows there's a pretty good chance you have a gun.

Same deal if he's thinking about shooting up the local shopping mall, or office building, or school.

Notice that the guys who do this, usually pick places where guns are banned. That's WHY the places where mass shootings occur, are post offices, schools, workplaces etc. - they guy knows no one will be shooting back.

The insane ones (are any of them not insane?) aren't afraid of dying. Many of them do their thing and then turn the gun on themselves. But they all want to kill as many people as possible first, and "go out with a bang", making the greatest, most horrible splash possible. And if someone stops them before they have a chance to shoot more than one or two people, they won't accomplish what they want.

The most important reason for ALL law-abiding people to have the right to own and carry a gun, is not the chance to shoot a bad guy. It's DETERRENCE. When everybody CAN carry, even if most don't, the bad guy knows there will probably be one or two people in the crowd who can stop him... and he doesn't know which one(s). Or where the bullet will come from.

It's enough to make a self-respecting murderer worry. And sometimes even change jobs.

And that's why law-abiding people have the right to own and carry a gun. There's never a cop around when you need one - the murderer plans his crimes to make sure of it. But there's usually a regular citizen or twenty around. THEY are the main line of defense, and the bad guys know it... except where government prevents it.

"Gun control laws are the criminal's OSHA. They provide him a safe working environment."

[HogTrash]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun. i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns,Every gun owner I have ever known in my life has been an "ordinary American" and I have known alot of them in my 59 years and I've been all over America.

The fact is, gun owners are the most decent, moral, family oriented and loyal patriotic Americans I have ever known, while the anti-gun crowd are usually the lowlife dregs of society.

They usually support immoral issues such as gay rights and atheism, promote socialism, critisize capitalism and preach hatred for Christianity and anything American while defending our enemies.

Is it possible you're not an American?...If not, would you like to share with us a little insight on the safe and wonderful place you call home?...Don't be shy...Nobody will shoot you.


wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.When the government no longer trusts the people, the people should no longer trust the government.

Only in nations where the government does not trust the proletarians, for whatever reason, are it's law-abiding citizens disarmed.

There are many historical examples of this such as Nazi Germany, The USSR, Red China, Cuba or basicly any nation where socialism/communism became the political ideology of choice.

Marxists are very aware that they can only maintain power if their subjects are rendered defenseless and unable to retaliate when the reality of their situation is realized.

Any nation of people who place themselves at the mercy of government will become the future victims of Totalitarianism.

"If there is hope . . . it lies in the proles" - George Orwell

"Those who trade freedom for security will have neither" - Benjiman Franklyn

"Never allow those who govern, to be the only ones with guns" - HogTrash

[KitchenKitten99]

I think this picture says it all:

[hjmick]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun. i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns, wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.

Where are you from?

[Binky]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun. i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns, wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.


Are you serious? You mean to say you only want the military and cops to have access to guns? Are you nuts? Under your thinking the citizens would have no means to protect themselves against an armed militia.... That's what our cops and military are...... armed militias..... I am reminded of WW2 Germany when Hilter ruled. No guns allowed. Ever....Easier to control the people.... And in the end.........over 10 million jews were murdered via gas chambers. Do you have any concept of what that means? It means they were helpless....

They had no means to fight back.... When you give up your weapons it's only a matter of a militia coming to haul you off and stand you against a wall in front of a firing squad..........Is that what you want? If it is, there must be other countries that would oblige you.....

A people unable to protect themselves is a doomed people....

[Insein]

Drive-by. I don't think he's coming back. At least not as Hunter.

[HogTrash]

A woman with a gun, fending off multiple unarmed attackers or intruders, has a very good chance of survival, providing she keeps her cool.

A woman with a gun, fending off a male attacker or intruder with no weapon, has the advantage and will usually succesfully defend herself.

A woman with a gun, fending off a male attacker or intruder with a knife, has the advantage and will usually succesfully defend herself.

A woman with a gun, fending off a male attacker or intruder with a gun, will have an equal chance of defending herself and may survive.

A woman without a gun, fending off a man or men, either armed or unarmed, is usually doomed and it is unlikely she will survive the attack.

The same is true of weaker or disabled men who are defending themself, their family or home...God created man, Samuel Colt made them equal.

[avatar4321]

Why would I regret the right to bear arms? It serves an excellent two-fold purpose:

1) Allows us to defend ourselves and our families
2) Protects us from overaggressive politicians who want to tell us what to do by the use of force.

We'd be screwed otherwise.

[KitchenKitten99]

The Mr. & I both got our conceal & carry permits this past spring. The Mr. got his more as a slap in the face to Obummer.
I got mine purely for educational reasons- to learn to operate a firearm and work it safely, and be confident in my ability to use one. Before the class, I had never operated a handgun a day in my life. I now know.

[DragonStryk72]

i have noticed that america has some of the highest levels of gun crime among developed countries and i was wondering is this easy access to guns a result of the law tha allows common american citizens without criminal records to own a gun. i mean i have heard the excuse that they should be less gun control because citizens need to protect themselves, but i have realized that most ordinary americans dont seem to buy guns, wouldnt it be easier and safer if it was only law enforcement and the military that where allowed to carry weapons. take the uk for example it is extremely rare for gun violence to be hered of. most of the time it knife violence, due to the easy accessibility of knives. so will gun crime reduce in the states if people could not just walk into wall mart and buy a gun.

Actually, the opposite tends to be the problem, with higher crime states being in NY and California, where gun control is stricter. If we were to ban guns, much like in the UK, stabbings would shoot up, because it isn't the gun that is the problem, that's just a tool.

Once a person has gotten to the point of committing murder, they are simply looking for the means with which to do it.

[HogTrash]

Actually, the opposite tends to be the problem, with higher crime states being in NY and California, where gun control is stricter. If we were to ban guns, much like in the UK, stabbings would shoot up, because it isn't the gun that is the problem, that's just a tool.

Once a person has gotten to the point of committing murder, they are simply looking for the means with which to do it.Interesting...The OP stated that there are less gun crimes and gun murders in the UK since the ban, but I wonder if crime and murder over all has actually decreased?

[Kathianne]

Chicago has one of the most, if not the most draconian gun restriction laws in the country:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2415428,weekend-shooting-roundup-062110.article


Ten dead among 54 shot aross city over weekend

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June 21, 2010
Sun-Times Media Wire
Ten people were killed and at least 44 others were shot across the city Friday night into early Monday, including a baby girl who suffered a graze wound to the neck when gunfire erupted at a Near West Side barbecue.

The latest victims were found naked, shot to death and lying face down on railroad property near West 91st Street and South Holland Road on the South Side about 8:50 a.m Monday, according to a Calumet Area sergeant. Both were shot at some point Sunday night.

The victims, black males believed to be between 16 and 20, remained unidentified as of late Monday afternoon....

[Little-Acorn]

Drive-by. I don't think he's coming back. At least not as Hunter.

He showed up a while ago, started a few threads but never returned to any of them. And now several days ago he started a dozen more, all in the space of ten minutes at 4 in the morning. He hasn't added anything to them, and hasn't been back since.

[HogTrash]

Chicago has one of the most, if not the most draconian gun restriction laws in the country:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2415428,weekend-shooting-roundup-062110.articleThe reason for this is the large numbers of uncivilized savages who inhabit these inner-city shitholes, but as long as they are killing each other instead of us, we should be thankful.

If they ever do come after us we could be screwed, cuz I don't think PC would allow us to shoot back at this particular group...The penalty might be lethal injection for a Hate Crime.