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red states rule
06-01-2010, 05:19 AM
Unions have hundreds of billons to elect Obama, and support Dems in the upcoming elections - but they no money to fund their own pensions?

They expect the US tapayers to fund their pensions for them?

What is wrong with this picture?






It has become clear that the president and those in the majority in Congress have sorely misjudged the ire of the American people. Waving that anger away as racism, ignorance or just plain "anti-incumbent" sentiment, they fail to realize that at the core, Americans have grown incredibly angry over the way their money is being spent. One thought the president might have gotten the message, declaring that the era of bailouts was over. And yet, as in so many other instances when the Democrats have said one thing and done just the opposite, the United States' labor unions can expect a reported $165 billion to ensure they are able to meet the demands of their struggling pension funds. It's safe to say that when Mr. Obama says there will be no more bailouts, the American people can expect a bailout.

The best we can say about this is that it is terrible public policy - enshrining years of bad pension management coupled with an entitlement policy founded on idiotic assumptions. At its worst, it is outrageous - a bald-faced payback for the years of Big Labor's fealty to the Democratic Party machine, a machine that operates against the best interests of rank-and-file union members by creating policies that have eviscerated the U.S. manufacturing sector and driven jobs overseas.

What's more, there's reason to suspect that at least some of that money will be spent by the unions to make sure their candidates in office - the ones who support union causes and issues - remain in office.

This speculation is supported by the fact that at least two major unions reportedly are gearing up to spend $100 million to re-elect congressional members currently seated, despite reports that the American public is losing faith in the direction they're going with economic recovery. Both the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) have pledged to spend millions for Democratic incumbency protection. The AFL-CIO also is planning to help Democratic candidates retain their seats but has not divulged the amount it plans to spend.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/31/democratic-party-plans-union-payoff/

red states rule
06-01-2010, 06:50 PM
I stand corrected. This will NOT be a bailout

No it will be called

"Create Jobs and Save Benefits Act of 2010"


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3157


I wonder how much of a tax increase Dems will call for to cover part of the expense?

cat slave
06-03-2010, 01:04 AM
Well, from speaking from a union family....this just stinks! Mismanagement
should never be rewarded.

Workers paid into their pensions for years and years, like Medicare, Where TF
is the money????? Stolen.

red states rule
06-03-2010, 04:33 AM
Well, from speaking from a union family....this just stinks! Mismanagement
should never be rewarded.

Workers paid into their pensions for years and years, like Medicare, Where TF
is the money????? Stolen.

Where is the money? A huge portion went to elect Dems, and line the pockets of union leaders

cat slave
06-05-2010, 03:18 AM
Yeah, I know. It just pisses me off.

Binky
06-05-2010, 09:27 AM
The slogan for dems should be, "We're the bailout party." Trouble is.....that bucket isn't near big enough to keep bailing and bailing and bailing.:eek:

SassyLady
06-05-2010, 11:19 AM
My ex father-in-law worked for Teamsters .... he was murdered for crossing the picket line. My ex husband's cousin worked for Teamsters .... he was murdered.

My ex was in the IBEW for ten years and absolutely hated it. He loved his job but was compelled to join the union. He was a hard worker and had been moving up through the company through his efforts and talents and then he was told that he couldn't do anything without the union. He couldn't even change a lightbulb because it wasn't a duty listed for his position .... so he would have to call the shop steward to send someone in (at a minimum hourly call in) to change a fricking light bulb! How does having a union help a company have better profits?

I think unions are dangerous, are bullies, rob incentives, are corrupt ..... not necessarily the people who are compelled to join .... but those who are in the upper heirarchy.....

In a nutshell........don't like unions, don't trust unions, think they should be abolished.

red states rule
06-10-2010, 05:24 AM
So unions and Dems are whining how union pensions need additional funding - yet the unions have money for elections

$10 MILLION IN ONE PRIMARY ELECTION IN ONE STATE

Why should one cent of taxpayer moeny go to the unions?




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Big labor decided to teach her—and all Democratic members of Congress who were quailing at the prospect of voting for card check—a lesson. The lesson would be that, however much a vote for card check would reduce your chances of winning a general election, opposition to card check would result in your defeat in a Democratic primary.

It’s a huge defeat for the unions. White House political operatives are already complaining, as Ben Smith notes in Politico, that “Organized labor just flushed $10 million of their members’ money down the toilet on a pointless exercise,” [a senior White House] official said. “If even half that total had been well-targeted and applied in key House races across this country, that could have made a real difference in November.” But the unions are not just interested in maintaining Democratic majorities. They’re interested in making sure that all Democratic incumbents will vote when bidden for card check. The message they wanted to send to Blanche Lincoln, and to all other Democrats, was: the minute you announce against card check, your career is over.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Some-thoughts-on-the-June-8-primaries-95935064.html

Gaffer
06-10-2010, 06:44 AM
Their pensions are are easily fixed. Just put the money they were giving the politicians back in the pension fund and all will be okay. It's theives investing in thieves.

red states rule
06-11-2010, 03:47 AM
Their pensions are are easily fixed. Just put the money they were giving the politicians back in the pension fund and all will be okay. It's theives investing in thieves.

Yea, but how will Obama and the Dems get more votes and more cash if the unions did that?

After all, that is the goal of the left since they know they are in for a severe beating at the polls in November

red states rule
06-11-2010, 05:11 AM
Andrea Mitchell is more worried about the unions trying to embarrass Pres Obama

As always in the liberal media, everything revolves around the Chosen One and how it helps/hurts HIM and not how it helps/hurts the nation


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