View Full Version : In senior thesis, Elena Kagan wrote of "socialism's greatness"
Little-Acorn
05-10-2010, 05:23 PM
Looks like the paper trail for Supreme Court Nominee Elena Kagan, though bereft of any judicial experience or rulings, is not completely bare.
She wrote her most major paper in College, on socialism's failure to become a major force in the U.S. by 1933... and invoked more than one spasm of regret for the "loss".
Has she outgrown such childish fantasies? Or might she still be harboring designs for making her college dream happen... using the courts as a tool?
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http://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com/2010/05/solicitor-general-elena-kagan-has.html
Saturday, May 08, 2010
Solicitor General Elena Kagan has called for Socialists to unite in order to defeat the "entrenched foe."
White House aides expect President Obama to select Solicitor General Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court. See here. Ms. Kagan, while attending Princeton University as an undergraduate, entitled her senior thesis "To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933." In her thesis, Ms. Kagan wrote, "In our times [this was 30 years ago], a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of Capitalism's glories than of socialism's greatness. Conformity overrides dissent; the desire to conserve has overwhelmed the urge to alter. Such a state of affairs cries out for explanation. Why, in a society by no means perfect, has a radical party never attained the status of a major political force? Why, in particular, did the socialist movement never become an alternative to the nation's established parties?" (p. 127).
And then Ms. Kagan issues her call to action, her call for Socialists to unite in order to defeat "the entrenched foe." She writes, "Through its own internal feuding..the SP [Socialist Party] exhausted itself forever and further reduced labor radicalism in New York to the position of marginality and insignificance from which it has never recovered. The story is a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism's decline, still wish to change America. Radicals have often succumbed to the devastating bane of sectarianism; it is easier, after all, to fight one's fellows than it is to battle an entrenched and powerful foe. Yet if the history of Local New York shows anything, it is that American radicals cannot afford to become their own worst enemies. In unity lies their only hope." (pp. 129-130).
HogTrash
05-10-2010, 06:51 PM
Ms Kagan sounds like Obama's kind of girl. :thumb:
BoogyMan
05-10-2010, 07:03 PM
How odd that a person who could NEVER be considered a socialist would, out of the blue, appoint this woman. [/sarcasm]
sybarite
05-10-2010, 07:35 PM
Par for the course.
red states rule
05-11-2010, 05:27 AM
Looks to me like Obama nominated himself. Kagan is a mirror image of Obama. Judges should not consider law, but side with the little guy
(As long as the little guy is a minority)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.parcoltop11.35513.ImageFile.jpg
bullypulpit
05-11-2010, 05:48 AM
Looks like the paper trail for Supreme Court Nominee Elena Kagan, though bereft of any judicial experience or rulings, is not completely bare.
She wrote her most major paper in College, on socialism's failure to become a major force in the U.S. by 1933... and invoked more than one spasm of regret for the "loss".
Has she outgrown such childish fantasies? Or might she still be harboring designs for making her college dream happen... using the courts as a tool?
-------------------------------------
http://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com/2010/05/solicitor-general-elena-kagan-has.html
Saturday, May 08, 2010
Solicitor General Elena Kagan has called for Socialists to unite in order to defeat the "entrenched foe."
White House aides expect President Obama to select Solicitor General Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court. See here. Ms. Kagan, while attending Princeton University as an undergraduate, entitled her senior thesis "To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933." In her thesis, Ms. Kagan wrote, "In our times [this was 30 years ago], a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of Capitalism's glories than of socialism's greatness. Conformity overrides dissent; the desire to conserve has overwhelmed the urge to alter. Such a state of affairs cries out for explanation. Why, in a society by no means perfect, has a radical party never attained the status of a major political force? Why, in particular, did the socialist movement never become an alternative to the nation's established parties?" (p. 127).
And then Ms. Kagan issues her call to action, her call for Socialists to unite in order to defeat "the entrenched foe." She writes, "Through its own internal feuding..the SP [Socialist Party] exhausted itself forever and further reduced labor radicalism in New York to the position of marginality and insignificance from which it has never recovered. The story is a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism's decline, still wish to change America. Radicals have often succumbed to the devastating bane of sectarianism; it is easier, after all, to fight one's fellows than it is to battle an entrenched and powerful foe. Yet if the history of Local New York shows anything, it is that American radicals cannot afford to become their own worst enemies. In unity lies their only hope." (pp. 129-130).
Wow...it's just one dumbass attack after another with you and your fellow travelers Lil Corny.
<center><a href=http://mediamatters.org/research/201005100001#3>Myth: Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist</a></center>
<blockquote>Kagan did not express personal support for socialism or radicalism in her thesis. Rather, she explored the historical question of why socialism did not become a major political movement in the United States as it had elsewhere in the world...if Republicans actually believed the thesis is evidence that Kagan harbored socialist views, they presumably would have raised the issue during her confirmation for solicitor general in 2009. But at no point during Kagan's February 10, 2009, Senate hearing, the written questions following the hearing, or the March 19, 2009, floor debate on her nomination did any senator -- Republican or Democratic -- address Kagan's undergraduate thesis or concerns that she held socialist beliefs.</blockquote>
red states rule
05-11-2010, 05:49 AM
Wow...it's just one dumbass attack after another with you and your fellow travelers Lil Corny.
<center><a href=http://mediamatters.org/research/201005100001#3>Myth: Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist</a></center>
<blockquote>Kagan did not express personal support for socialism or radicalism in her thesis. Rather, she explored the historical question of why socialism did not become a major political movement in the United States as it had elsewhere in the world...if Republicans actually believed the thesis is evidence that Kagan harbored socialist views, they presumably would have raised the issue during her confirmation for solicitor general in 2009. But at no point during Kagan's February 10, 2009, Senate hearing, the written questions following the hearing, or the March 19, 2009, floor debate on her nomination did any senator -- Republican or Democratic -- address Kagan's undergraduate thesis or concerns that she held socialist beliefs.</blockquote>
Media Matters again BP?
Like Greece, America will soon learn socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend
HogTrash
05-11-2010, 07:47 AM
Is Supreme Court Nominee Elena Kagan, who believed the 'don't ask-don't tell' policy is morally wrong, willing to make exceptions for the right dollar amount?
In a 2003 email to faculty and students, Ms. Kagan called the US Military's policy barring active homosexuals from serving "a profound wrong—a moral injustice of the first order."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/11/kagans-legal-record-portrays-cautious-liberal/
But to continue federal funding, the Dean of Harvard Law School, Elena Kagan, lifted the ban on military recruiting.
The Law School's anti-discrimination policy, adopted in 1979, provides that any employer who recruits at the School and uses the services of OCS must sign a statement indicating that it does not discriminate on various bases, including sexual orientation. As a result of this policy, the military was barred for many years from using the services of OCS. Last year, the Dean of Law School, in consultation with other officers of the University, reluctantly lifted this ban for the military. The Dean took this action because of a new ruling by the Department of Defense stating that unless the Law School took this action, the entire University would lose federal funding under a statute known as the Solomon Amendment. (This amendment denies federal funds to an educational institution that "prohibits or in effect prevents" military recruiting.)
http://www.hlrecord.org/2.4462/kagan-e-mails-school-1.580120I happen to believe she made the right decision but regardless, she obviously sacrificed her principles for a policy she admittedly believes was not only wrong but immoral...This speaks volumes!
This is not the kind of person we need as a sitting Justice in The Supreme Court Of The United States making important constitutional decisions that affect the lives of every single American citizen.
Gaffer
05-11-2010, 08:28 AM
If the dark lord appoints them you can bet they will be dangerous to this country. That's a given.
Abbey Marie
05-11-2010, 09:19 AM
She sounds a lot like Hillary. :(
Dang Straight
05-11-2010, 10:57 AM
It's called Empire Building................. Obama is building an Empire following the standards of Socialism.
The true test will be to see if the American Citizen will stand up to Obama and explain to him what NO means.
bullypulpit
05-11-2010, 02:14 PM
Ya know...it's painfully obvious that y'all haven't the faintest idea just what socialism and communism are, beyond what you get from folks like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage-Weiner, Rush Limbaugh <i>et al</i> spoon-feed you. And they got their shit from the John Birch Society...Except for Glenn Beck, and he just pulls it outta his ass.
Communism is a failed ideology...Hell, even the Chi-Comms don't practice it any more.
And we tried unregulated laissez-faire capitalism under the Bush administration, and it brought the nation to the brink of financial ruin and now, environmental devastation.
Socialism is just a retarded stepchild that doesn't do anyone any good. If you want economic growth in a sane, responsible manner you need regulated free markets.
Little-Acorn
05-11-2010, 02:21 PM
(the usual BP tripe deleted)
:trolls:
Dang Straight
05-11-2010, 04:24 PM
Ya know...it's painfully obvious that y'all haven't the faintest idea just what socialism and communism are, beyond what you get from folks like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage-Weiner, Rush Limbaugh <i>et al</i> spoon-feed you. And they got their shit from the John Birch Society...Except for Glenn Beck, and he just pulls it outta his ass.
Communism is a failed ideology...Hell, even the Chi-Comms don't practice it any more.
And we tried unregulated laissez-faire capitalism under the Bush administration, and it brought the nation to the brink of financial ruin and now, environmental devastation.
Socialism is just a retarded stepchild that doesn't do anyone any good. If you want economic growth in a sane, responsible manner you need regulated free markets.
Better to regulate "Fair Markets" then "Free Markets" as they are a big part of out problems today.
Little-Acorn
05-11-2010, 05:50 PM
Better to regulate "Fair Markets" then "Free Markets" as they are a big part of out problems today.
***PLEASE***
:trolls:
Silver
05-11-2010, 05:50 PM
Wow...it's just one dumbass attack after another with you and your fellow travelers Lil Corny.
<center><a href=http://mediamatters.org/research/201005100001#3>Myth: Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist</a></center>
<blockquote>Kagan did not express personal support for socialism or radicalism in her thesis. Rather, she explored the historical question of why socialism did not become a major political movement in the United States as it had elsewhere in the world...if Republicans actually believed the thesis is evidence that Kagan harbored socialist views, they presumably would have raised the issue during her confirmation for solicitor general in 2009. But at no point during Kagan's February 10, 2009, Senate hearing, the written questions following the hearing, or the March 19, 2009, floor debate on her nomination did any senator -- Republican or Democratic -- address Kagan's undergraduate thesis or concerns that she held socialist beliefs.</blockquote>
Bullshit from an apologist..
Ten or twenty years ago, Democrats would have been highly insulted and offended to be lumped in with and compared to Socialists and Communists...
Socialists and Communists, that Kennedy and LBJ, great Democrats of the 1960's and 70's, and every Democrat in those days would have considered the absolute enemies of the United States and everything we stand for.....
Today....thats who they are, and seem to actually take pride in the roll....is it ignorance or a radical change in philosophy...
red states rule
05-11-2010, 06:42 PM
Ya know...it's painfully obvious that y'all haven't the faintest idea just what socialism and communism are, beyond what you get from folks like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage-Weiner, Rush Limbaugh <i>et al</i> spoon-feed you. And they got their shit from the John Birch Society...Except for Glenn Beck, and he just pulls it outta his ass.
Communism is a failed ideology...Hell, even the Chi-Comms don't practice it any more.
And we tried unregulated laissez-faire capitalism under the Bush administration, and it brought the nation to the brink of financial ruin and now, environmental devastation.
Socialism is just a retarded stepchild that doesn't do anyone any good. If you want economic growth in a sane, responsible manner you need regulated free markets.
BP, it is clear LIBERALISM is the failed ideology. We see what liberalism has done to Europe and what it is doing to America
Nanny state liberalism, where Dems expand welfare handouts and government - all while a shrinking minority pay an ever growing majority of taxes
And you wonder why Obama and the Dems are tanking in the polls - along with the economy
Jagger
05-19-2010, 11:16 AM
Obama is..following the standards of Socialism.
Since we're a socialist nation, we should be following the standards of socialism.
Jagger
05-19-2010, 11:19 AM
Democrats would have been highly insulted and offended to be lumped in with and compared to Socialists
I don't see why. According the meaning some right wing extremists attach to the word "socialism", the U. S. has been a socialist nation for over 150 years.
Jagger
05-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Nanny state liberalism, where Dems expand welfare handouts It was a Nanny State Republican controlled Congress that passed the 2003 bill that expanded the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive social insurance program administered by the United States government - which provides health insurance coverage to people who are aged 65 and over - to subsidize the costs of prescription drugs. It was a Republican President who signed the bill, which neglected to provide a means of funding the expansion, into law.
Gaffer
05-19-2010, 01:50 PM
It was a Nanny State Republican controlled Congress that passed the 2003 bill that expanded the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive social insurance program administered by the United States government - which provides health insurance coverage to people who are aged 65 and over - to subsidize the costs of prescription drugs. It was a Republican President who signed the bill, which neglected to provide a means of funding the expansion, into law.
None of that matters now cause everyone will be under the care of the dark lord. Don't it just send a tingle down your leg?
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