why is the government involved in marriage and does it have to be?

[actsnoblemartin]

Why cant The government get out it and let people enter into business contracts?, without government endorsing homosexuality and heterosexuality or any sexuality

[HogTrash]

Maybe because homosexuality is believed by voters to be a sick perversion that should not be given validity by recognizing it as a legitimate lifestyle.

Maybe there are still good and decent people in America who believe that perversion should be kept in the dark allies and dirty gutters where it belongs.

[KarlMarx]

Maybe because homosexuality is believed by voters to be a sick perversion that should not be given validity by recognizing it as a legitimate lifestyle.

Maybe there are still good and decent people in America who believe that perversion should be kept in the dark allies and dirty gutters where it belongs.

I think that most people agree with you. The radical gays have managed to slip into our lexicon the term "homophobia" and, along with it, the idea that disagreeing with the radical gay agenda is a mental illness. After all, a "phobia" is the irrational fear of something, isn't it? Just like "claustrophobia" is the irrational fear of closed spaces (and is classified a mental illness) "homophobia" is the "irrational" fear of homosexuals... and therefore a mental illness.

That is precisely what the Soviets did with many dissidents, they had them institutionalized in order to silence them...

The fact is that most people are not afraid of homosexuals, they are afraid of their politics and what they want to bring to our society. For instance, gay adoption of children, gay marriage, gender selection as a right, repeal of sodomy laws, lowering the age of consent laws, passage of hate speech laws that will allow them to prosecute churches for preaching that the homosexual lifestyle is a sin and jailing political opponents that disagree with the radical gay agenda.

If you think that can't happen, just look to the north of our border.

[chloe]

Why cant The government get out it and let people enter into business contracts?, without government endorsing homosexuality and heterosexuality or any sexuality


Government shouldn't be involved in marriage.

[SassyLady]

Bottom line is that government shouldn't be involved in a lot of things. However, most of us have chosen to live in communities where we no longer come together and commune as a group and express what our values and principles are as a group. We no longer have the "peer pressure" of the community to enforce our value system. We have resorted to establishing laws and government officials with fines and jail time for those who don't adhere to the laws. We have removed ourselves from being the holders of the community values.

Instead, we have created a society where we elect "lawmakers" to establish the values and hire government officials (police, judges, etc.) to enforce those laws.

It is our own fault that the government feels it has the power to create our value system. We abdicated personal responsibility to shun those values we are opposed to and now they've gotten into the very fabric of society .... kinda like grabgrass.

[bullypulpit]

Why cant The government get out it and let people enter into business contracts?, without government endorsing homosexuality and heterosexuality or any sexuality

Government is involved in marriage because of the contractual relationship that a marriage establishes between two parties. The support and rearing of children, powers of attorney, the disposition of property in the event of the dissolution of the marriage or the death of ne of the individuals involved. From that standpoint, the gender or sexual orientation of the individuals involved is irrelevant.

[bullypulpit]

Bottom line is that government shouldn't be involved in a lot of things. However, most of us have chosen to live in communities where we no longer come together and commune as a group and express what our values and principles are as a group. We no longer have the "peer pressure" of the community to enforce our value system. We have resorted to establishing laws and government officials with fines and jail time for those who don't adhere to the laws. We have removed ourselves from being the holders of the community values.

Instead, we have created a society where we elect "lawmakers" to establish the values and hire government officials (police, judges, etc.) to enforce those laws.

It is our own fault that the government feels it has the power to create our value system. We abdicated personal responsibility to shun those values we are opposed to and now they've gotten into the very fabric of society .... kinda like grabgrass.

Values are "established" by governments in totalitarian societies, not democracies. The exception being when the government in a democratic society must step in to correct injustice as in the case of "Brown v. Board of Education" and the Civil Rights Act signed in to law by Lyndon Johnson.

[SassyLady]

Values are "established" by governments in totalitarian societies, not democracies. The exception being when the government in a democratic society must step in to correct injustice as in the case of "Brown v. Board of Education" and the Civil Rights Act signed in to law by Lyndon Johnson.

Vaues are established by communities ..... by a group of people wanting to live harmoniously with each other and working toward a common goal. When an individual or group of individual do not want to live within that community, then they should remove themselves from the community, not force the balance of the community to change their value system.

Example: The Amish .... they have a set of values and one either adheres to them, or the peer pressure of the community drives out those who don't conform.

Unfortunately for most of society, we are too lazy to stand up for our values and we let people who are more vociferous set the standards/values for our communities and eventually we stop and wonder .... how did we get here?

Because we didn't speak up when the first crack started and now repairing the dam is going to be hard work and lots of discomfort for all.

[Binky]

Vaues are established by communities ..... by a group of people wanting to live harmoniously with each other and working toward a common goal. When an individual or group of individual do not want to live within that community, then they should remove themselves from the community, not force the balance of the community to change their value system.

Example: The Amish .... they have a set of values and one either adheres to them, or the peer pressure of the community drives out those who don't conform.

Unfortunately for most of society, we are too lazy to stand up for our values and we let people who are more vociferous set the standards/values for our communities and eventually we stop and wonder .... how did we get here?

Because we didn't speak up when the first crack started and now repairing the dam is going to be hard work and lots of discomfort for all.


OMG! This is so true. If we, as a people, had taken the initative to do something about it in the early stages, we wouldn't have the problem with it now....The very fact the our youngsters are having to learn about "alternative lifestyles," as it were, at such young ages is appalling to say the least. This is something no child should have to learn about since they've only been out of diapers a few years, if that... This is being touted as a normal way of life therefore, programming it into the young minds is a way of gaining any future support for it.....

Unfortunately, it seems no matter which channel or time of day we will find programming with gay topics in them... Which leads me to believe that there are an insurrmountable amount of individuals in the movie and tv industries that have either family or friends that are gay. And with this being so is the reasoning behind all the gay crapola that is spieled. They are touting it as a normal way of life to cushion the blow of it actually being deviant behavior.....

Look at Amazing Race.....It seems that show can't go a season without either a gay or lesbian couple on it. Right now, there's a lesbian couple. And how about Survivor? Every now and then they will have a "token" gay on it......That's what I call, "stirring the pot." On occasion, they stick one in the midst of the other constestants to stir that pot and rock the boat....