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red states rule

03-31-2010, 03:48 AM

Given the liberal talking points and how the liberal media paints anyone who disagrees with Obama - here is how you can determine if you might be a racist

If you are a member of, or attend a Tea Party rally, you might be a racist

If you oppose Obama's policies, you might be a racist

If you think Bill Ayers is a domestic terrorist, you might be a racist.

If you were sickened by Rev Wrights comments, you might be a racist.

If you use Obama's full name, you might be a racist.

If you think that health insurance is not a right, you might be a racist.

If you oppose affirmative action, you might be a racist.

If you listen to Rush, Hannity, or Beck - or watch Fox News, you might be a racist.

Did I leave anything out, or miss anything?

HogTrash

03-31-2010, 06:05 AM

If you don't practice political correctness.

KarlMarx

03-31-2010, 06:17 AM

you are a racist if you're white, a Republican, a man, or a Christian who actually practices his faith

Jeff

03-31-2010, 07:27 AM

Kathianne

03-31-2010, 07:30 AM

This makes me proud to be a racist !!

LOL! Might be is one thing, I don't let the left or right define me, though both try.

Jeff

03-31-2010, 07:41 AM

LOL! Might be is one thing, I don't let the left or right define me, though both try.

They may define me as anything they want, as long as they know I am on the other side I am happy :laugh2:

Kathianne

03-31-2010, 07:59 AM

They may define me as anything they want, as long as they know I am on the other side I am happy :laugh2:

Yep. I figure when those that like to label find I'm 'not with them', I'm doing my job of thinking. LOL! I suppose they might call us oppositional? :laugh2:

HogTrash

03-31-2010, 09:07 AM

LOL! Might be is one thing, I don't let the left or right define me, though both try.You should concern yourself less with those who define you, and more with those who control you.

You may be amazed at the self awareness that results from such a new priority...I am not your enemy.

Little-Acorn

03-31-2010, 10:28 AM

If you believe we pay enough taxes already, you may be a racist.

Little-Acorn

03-31-2010, 10:29 AM

If you believe that government attempts to "spread the wealth around" are bad for the country, you may be a racist.

Kathianne

03-31-2010, 11:04 AM

You should concern yourself less with those who define you, and more with those who control you.

You may be amazed at the self awareness that results from such a new priority...I am not your enemy.

No one, including you will control my thoughts, beliefs, or actions. You're still stuck on stupid, unable to tell that your thoughts are not facts, nor are your beliefs.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 03:28 AM

You're still stuck on stupid, unable to tell that your thoughts are not facts, nor are your beliefs.If this is true then I am not only "stupid" but also foolish, ignorant, a moron and a dumb-ass as well. :eek:

Whew!...It's amazing that I can even feed, bathe or dress myself without government assistance. :dunno:

Please help me...How do I get to be a unique thinker, just like you and everybody else Kathianne ??? :confused:

red states rule

04-01-2010, 04:07 AM

If you are registered as anything other then a Democrat, you might be a racist

If your grandmother isn't a "typical white person" you might be a racist.

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 04:22 AM

If this is true then I am not only "stupid" but also foolish, ignorant, a moron and a dumb-ass as well. :eek:

Whew!...It's amazing that I can even feed, bathe or dress myself without government assistance. :dunno:

Please help me...How do I get to be a unique thinker, just like you and everybody else Kathianne ??? :confused:

Poor HT. You have only two cards? All-knowing male labeler or pity pot?

Funny thing, while both of us deplore what we see as wrong with the country, you Mr. HT react with fear and try to use your 'influence' by bullying. I too fear for our country, as do millions of others, we know we have and should be a better country than we are, which can only come through convictions, courage, principles and being strong. Those principles include not only the Constitution, but also the Declaration of Independence, the works that influenced those that wrote both, and the Bible.

What I'm 'lke' is basic, in some sense I still have faith in the system set up so long ago. The town hall meetings and Tea Parties, held day after day, month after month, by thousands tell me that at root many believe. What scares me to the core is the willful behavior of the leaders. I believe we will see change in the leadership, soon or there will be change. I don't think it will be led though by 'men' scared out of their minds by people that are different than themselves.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 05:30 AM

Poor HT. You have only two cards? All-knowing male labeler or pity pot?Male labeler?...Pity pot?...I suppose you see whatever it is that justifies your perception...Or vise-verse?

Funny thing, while both of us deplore what we see as wrong with the country, you Mr. HT react with fear and try to use your 'influence' by bullying. I too fear for our country, as do millions of others, we know we have and should be a better country than we are, which can only come through convictions, courage, principles and being strong. Those principles include not only the Constitution, but also the Declaration of Independence, the works that influenced those that wrote both, and the Bible."you Mr. HT react with fear"?...Not with fear, but because of fear...Like you said, you and millions of other Americans are also in fear.

"try to use your 'influence' by bullying"?...That sounds more like Bullypuppet's and Nukeman's tactics?...Personally, I don't like "bullies".

I never "bully" and am normally very polite, even when being attacked?..."Moron" and "cupcake" are usually my most vicious smears?

I'm a very big fan of the Constitution, Bill Of Rights and Bible, but too many people are now guided by the standards of PC instead of these sacred documents.

What I'm 'lke' is basic, in some sense I still have faith in the system set up so long ago. The town hall meetings and Tea Parties, held day after day, month after month, by thousands tell me that at root many believe. What scares me to the core is the willful behavior of the leaders. I believe we will see change in the leadership, soon or there will be change. I don't think it will be led though by 'men' scared out of their minds by people that are different than themselves.Like you, I too have always had faith in the American "system" but as the racial demographics shift to minority control, that system will swing far to the left as we are already witnessing.

All evidence points to this as well as what groups are overwhelming proponents of it...I don't see how anyone can dispute this or what they are basing their beliefs on, other than political correctness.

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 05:42 AM

Male labeler?...Pity pot?...I suppose you see whatever it is that justifies your perception...Or vise-verse?

"you Mr. HT react with fear"?...Not with fear, but because of fear...Like you said, you and millions of other Americans are also in fear.

"try to use your 'influence' by bullying"?...That sounds more like Bullypuppet's and Nukeman's tactics?...Personally, I don't like "bullies".

I never "bully" and am normally very polite, even when being attacked?..."Moron" and "cupcake" are usually my most vicious smears?

I'm a very big fan of the Constitution, Bill Of Rights and Bible, but too many people are now guided by the standards of PC instead of these sacred documents.

Like you, I too have always had faith in the American "system" but as the racial demographics shift to minority control, that system will swing far to the left as we are already witnessing.

All evidence points to this as well as what groups are overwhelming proponents of it...I don't see how anyone can dispute this or what they are basing their beliefs on, other than political correctness. That is your interpretation of what YOU think you see, not 'fact.'

I already stated that one can look at the response of 'the people' over the past year-which is NOT based upon PC. All your flim flam is more fear mongering, because you are skeerd of those colored people. I don't know any other explanation for your projecting all that is wrong on non-whites, other than racism.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 06:39 AM

That is your interpretation of what YOU think you see, not 'fact.'

I already stated that one can look at the response of 'the people' over the past year-which is NOT based upon PC. All your flim flam is more fear mongering, because you are skeerd of those colored people. I don't know any other explanation for your projecting all that is wrong on non-whites, other than racism.Instead of me repeatedly posting links showing that minorities[mainly blacks and hispanics] overwhelmingly vote far left, why don't you look it up yourself?

The statistics are very easy to find and just maybe if you research it yourself, you will believe your own eyes...Google 'minority voting statistics', or whatever?

This isn't rocket science Kathianne...I'm pretty sure most people are very aware of how minorities vote, although there may be some dissagreements on why.

They are monopolitical for the most part...When minorities become the majority, we will have a permanent one party left-wing system of government...Socialism.

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 06:59 AM

Instead of me repeatedly posting links showing that minorities[mainly blacks and hispanics] overwhelmingly vote far left, why don't you look it up yourself?

The statistics are very easy to find and just maybe if you research it yourself, you will believe your own eyes...Google 'minority voting statistics', or whatever?

This isn't rocket science Kathianne...I'm pretty sure most people are very aware of how minorities vote, although there may be some dissagreements on why.

They are monopolitical for the most part...When minorities become the majority, we will have a permanent one party left-wing system of government...Socialism.

Because you are conflating politics with idiocy. Months ago I stated a viable reason why blacks voted in such numbers for Obama. Now that may have been racism, but then you need to account for why so many Roman Catholics voted for JFK or Al Smith. Religion is not a race. Rather it's a matter of voting for the wrong reason, but people do so all the time.

Do minorities overwhelmingly vote for Democrats? Yes. Why? Perhaps it's been a failure of Conservatives in selling their point-of-view? Concept.

Then there is the history of the 60's and 70's, marrying the black vote to the Democrats, when in fact the Republicans were the cause of getting those programs passed. Well the GOP didn't want credit for that for some reason.

Monolithic voting? I don't think so. Blacks voted for Republicans, when they could, until the Civil Rights legislation. Hispanics have voted conservative, until the Right decided to own illegal immigration as a problem. While I agree with the later, the Conservatives did little to explain they weren't against immigration, just illegal immigration. Certainly didn't help that both Bush and McCain were for leaving open borders, while their constituents were against it.

HT, you are the one blinded by your own faulty thought processes.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 08:24 AM

Because you are conflating politics with idiocy. Months ago I stated a viable reason why blacks voted in such numbers for Obama. Now that may have been racism, but then you need to account for why so many Roman Catholics voted for JFK or Al Smith. Religion is not a race. Rather it's a matter of voting for the wrong reason, but people do so all the time.I will repeat this one more time, :

"White Americans are the most consistantly, politically diverse and balanced voters in the United States", and always have been...That's a fact, like it or not, deal with it.

Do minorities overwhelmingly vote for Democrats? Yes. Why? [B]Perhaps it's been a failure of Conservatives in selling their point-of-view? Concept. "Perhaps"???...Your theory is absolutely wrong...It is definately not that the Republican Party does not affectively sell them their point of view!

Black voters are 100% aware of what the GOP stands for and what policies conservatism promotes, and that is the reason they don't support nor vote for Republicans.

At the same time they are 100% aware of what the Democrat Party does stand for and have been and still are loyal suppoters of their leftist ideology since the 1960's.

Black voters are overwhemingly the proponents of big government, socialist government programs, government wealth redistribution, and a cradle to grave nanny government.

Black voters for Obama only increased a couple percentage points above their normal democrat voting percentages, jumping from 94% to 96%, I believe.

Then there is the history of the 60's and 70's, marrying the black vote to the Democrats, when in fact the Republicans were the cause of getting those programs passed. Well the GOP didn't want credit for that for some reason.It didn't matter in the least that the Republicans were responsible for anything, including freeing black America from the bonds of slavery.

The Democrat Party's number one selling point was the fact that they were waving the trinketts and beads of "something for nothing" freebie government programs.

Your PC induced, racial loyalty is admirable, but it doesn't hold up to the cold hard facts of common sense and statistics.

Monolithic voting? I don't think so. Blacks voted for Republicans, when they could, until the Civil Rights legislation. Hispanics have voted conservative, until the Right decided to own illegal immigration as a problem. While I agree with the later, the Conservatives did little to explain they weren't against immigration, just illegal immigration. Certainly didn't help that both Bush and McCain were for leaving open borders, while their constituents were against it.Blacks were loyal to The Rpublican Party untill the 1960's when the Democrats starting buying their votes with white taxpayer dollars...Like I said Kat, this aint rocket science!

Everything I see disputes your claim of republican latino voters...From what I have seen they have for the most part been prediminately democrat voters at about 75%.

I would suspect that will be much higher from now on with the democrats pushing amnesty for illegal aliens.

HT, you are the one blinded by your own faulty thought processes.Sorry Kat, but this discribes you much more than me my friend...Stop fighting reality.

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 08:34 AM

I will repeat this one more time, [but won't bother linking again]:

"White Americans are the most consistantly, politically diverse and balanced voters in the United States", and always have been...That's a fact, like it or not, deal with it.

"Perhaps"???...Your theory is absolutely wrong...It is definately not that the Republican Party does not affectively sell them their point of view!

Black voters are 100% aware of what the GOP stands for and what policies conservatism promotes, and that is the reason they don't support nor vote for Republicans.

At the same time they are 100% aware of what the Democrat Party does stand for and have been and still are loyal suppoters of their leftist ideology since the 1960's.

Black voters are overwhemingly the proponents of big government, socialist government programs, government wealth redistribution, and a cradle to grave nanny government.

Black voters for Obama only increased a couple percentage points above their normal democrat voting percentages, jumping from 94% to 96%, I believe.

It didn't matter in the least that the Republicans were responsible for anything, including freeing black America from the bonds of slavery.

The Democrat Party's number one selling point was the fact that they were waving the trinketts and beads of "something for nothing" freebie government programs.

Your PC induced, racial loyalty is admirable, but it doesn't hold up to the cold hard facts of common sense and statistics.

Blacks were loyal to The Rpublican Party untill the 1960's when the Democrats starting buying their votes with white taxpayer dollars...Like I said Kat, this aint rocket science!

Everything I see disputes your claim of republican latino voters...From what I have seen they have for the most part been prediminately democrat voters at about 75%.

I would suspect that will be much higher from now on with the democrats pushing amnesty for illegal aliens.

Sorry Kat, but this discribes you much more than me my friend...Stop fighting reality.

Sorry, if you bother reading what you wrote, you'll find you are not separating fact from opinion. In fact, you fault me for not joining you in doing so.

namvet

04-01-2010, 09:12 AM

careful what you say. Osama may waterboard us all !!!!!! :laugh2:

Little-Acorn

04-01-2010, 10:45 AM

Would you two please take your purse fight to PMs, instead of hijacking a thread?

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 10:47 AM

Uh no. We are on topic. We got us a real example of the subject.

Mr. P

04-01-2010, 10:59 AM

Uh no. We are on topic. We got us a real example of the subject.

For sure.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 11:25 AM

Sorry, if you bother reading what you wrote, you'll find you are not separating fact from opinion. In fact, you fault me for not joining you in doing so.I base my opinions on facts rather than the PC system of reasoning...You should try it!...Here's a challenge.

If you can, dispute each of my "opinions" and "facts" individually, with your own opinions with facts to justify them.

Let's face it, your only argument thus far is to repeat over and over again that I can't seperate my opinions from my facts.

Kathianne

04-01-2010, 11:30 AM

I base my opinions on facts rather than the PC system of reasoning...You should try it!...Here's a challenge.

If you can, dispute each of my "opinions" and "facts" individually, with your own opinions with facts to justify them.

Let's face it, your only argument thus far is to repeat over and over again that I can't seperate my opinions from my facts.

Nope, told you way back when I'm not playing your game. You are the one into making blanket racist statements, then claiming you're not racist. Indeed, you claim that it's a fact that because of x,y,z your racists comments are not racist, but facts.

You're 'facts' are based on what 'everybody' knows, because of x, y, z. I've raised 3 kids, taught probably 1000 others of the ages 11-18, I know how the everyone arguments fail. Especially in my house.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 11:37 AM

Would you two please take your purse fight to PMs, instead of hijacking a thread?I thought this "purse fight" was on subject...

I get accused of racism pretty regularly and my defense is, that the accusations are not based on the validity of my statements, but simply because they are taboo to the rules of political correctness.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 11:53 AM

Nope, told you way back when I'm not playing your game. You are the one into making blanket racist statements, then claiming you're not racist. Indeed, you claim that it's a fact that because of x,y,z your racists comments are not racist, but facts.

You're 'facts' are based on what 'everybody' knows, because of x, y, z. I've raised 3 kids, taught probably 1000 others of the ages 11-18, I know how the everyone arguments fail. Especially in my house.When 95% of an entire race of American's electorate regularly vote for one political party and it's far left ideology, I think it's safe to make "blanket statements" by grouping them politically.

I don't see how that is racist and I do admit that just like all other rules, there are exceptions...In this case it's called the remaining 5%.

Mr. P

04-01-2010, 12:11 PM

I thought this "purse fight" was on subject...

I get accused of racism pretty regularly and my defense is, that the accusations are not based on the validity of my statements, but simply because they are taboo to the rules of political correctness.

Amazing how that "opinion" shines though to discredit any opposing opinion with the pc tag. :slap:

SassyLady

04-01-2010, 12:25 PM

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 12:32 PM

Amazing how that "opinion" shines though to discredit any opposing opinion with the pc tag. :slap:If I discredit someones opinion with a "pc tag", all they need do is back their opinion up with a fact to discredit me.

Then I must either disprove their fact or accept their opinion...I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong.

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 12:44 PM

You're 'facts' are based on what 'everybody' knows, because of x, y, z. I've raised 3 kids, taught probably 1000 others of the ages 11-18, I know how the everyone arguments fail. Especially in my house.LOL!...If my opinions were based on "what 'everybody' knows", I would be saying the exact same thing the rest of the 'PC world' is saying. :laugh2:

HogTrash

04-01-2010, 01:27 PM

That is your interpretation of what YOU think you see, not 'fact.'There is iron-clad indisputable evidence to base every single one of my opinions on.

If I show the "facts" too you, all lumped together in one post, will you believe them?

I already stated that one can look at the response of 'the people' over the past year-which is NOT based upon PC. All your flim flam is more fear mongering, because you are skeerd of those colored people. I don't know any other explanation for your projecting all that is wrong on non-whites, other than racism.I have blamed minorities for very little...Most of there indiscretions have been towards each other up to this point.

My concerns are for what will happen to the United States when they become the majority population and voting block in America.

2047 is the projected target date for this event to occur...After that the racial gap will gradually widen every year in their favor.

The voting gap will occur before then because of the number of white voters that also support a far left democrat idology and the likelyhood of amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegal aliens.

red states rule

04-01-2010, 05:32 PM

Kathianne

04-02-2010, 05:39 AM

Oh my.........based upon the above I am sooooooooo racist that I probably should be arrested. Imagine that ... being arrested for not drinking the coolaid of the progressive movement. :eek:

That would be a faulty assumption. Time and again RSR has posted things that make fun of PC, as have I. This was one of them. The OP was totally satire, not anything else. Others followed in the same vein.

There's a vast gulf between racism and being sick of PC. Mr. HT is one of the very few that have crossed it. I've never seen you on some sort of mission to have non-whites 'dealt with or addressed' in any way. Are you sick of affirmative action? I am. I believe RSR has posted the same, as I know Mr. P has and many others. Do you find problems with the Justice Department failing in reality to deal with ACORN and LaRaza? Me too. I was pissed when the Bush administration didn't and I'm really pissed at this one too. How about that decision to not prosecute the New Black Panthers and election intimidation? My head pops thinking of it. That's not prejudice, well on our parts anyways. It certainly appears to be on Mr. Holder's.

I could go on and on, but Mrs. KP, you can't play that victim card, no one other than yourself, implied in any way that you are racist. You've never gone in that direction.

I really wish we had some black, Hispanic, or other minorities posting here, that felt comfortable and able to address some aggressive internet posters. We don't. If they were guest reading what's been posted, I don't think they'd probably stop for long. I think that's too bad, I'd like more diversity on the board and in discussions.

Kathianne

04-02-2010, 05:41 AM

If I discredit someones opinion with a "pc tag", all they need do is back their opinion up with a fact to discredit me.

Then I must either disprove their fact or accept their opinion...I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong.

That would perhaps fly if I hadn't over and over again previously. Whenever it gets too hot, you try to send me on a search of arguments of the past. I'm not playing, as stated over and over again. You're repeating the same racist statements, then saying you're not racist, does not make it a fact.

Kathianne

04-02-2010, 05:45 AM

There is iron-clad indisputable evidence to base every single one of my opinions on.

If I show the "facts" too you, all lumped together in one post, will you believe them?

I have blamed minorities for very little...Most of there indiscretions have been towards each other up to this point.

My concerns are for what will happen to the United States when they become the majority population and voting block in America.

2047 is the projected target date for this event to occur...After that the racial gap will gradually widen every year in their favor.

The voting gap will occur before then because of the number of white voters that also support a far left democrat idology and the likelyhood of amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegal aliens.

The country is going to go 'white as minority' by the year you state, more or less. That IS a fact. White reproduction rate is at 2.1, minorities are higher. Don't blame the non-whites, blame white reproduction and the failure to address our open border. Tell your kids to go forth and multiply. How many children do you have? I've 3. Hell my ex, also white, has 2 more. He's done more than his share.

Kathianne

04-02-2010, 06:00 AM

Back to the topic at hand....

If you don't want more Justices on the US Supreme Court like Stephen Breyer you, may be a racist.

If you do not believe America is a downright mean country, you might be a racist

While RSR once again points our the real effects of PC on demonizing anyone non-liberal; others fail to see that the real racists are those trying to use non-whites to intimidate the weak minded. To allow them to paint the opposition this way is wrong, I'm in total agreement with the sentiments of this tactic by the left.

I don't make the huge leap from this wrong practice to blaming those being used. Are there minorities that fit stereotypes? Of course, otherwise they wouldn't work. I'm all for standing up against the ploy. I'm not willing to become the people the left is trying to portray.

If I had my way, affirmative action, hate speech laws, any other PC rules would be gone. They are discriminatory. Many times I've written about how males, in particular white males, are discriminated against, most recently regarding education and this unemployment situation. None of these wrongs though justify racism.

Anyone other than HT, think the Holocaust was a good method of dealing with the Jews? Think the Japanese Internment camps were the best actions in the long run? (Caveat here, at the time I'm certain I would have thought so, I admit that. Looking back? No. Hindsight is 20/20.)

Our country, because of size and the results of how population here was formed, is what it is. We are not just Anglo-Saxon descendants like most of Western Europe. Race has always been an issue here, doubt that will ever change. How we address the issues that arise, whether it is like an HT or LaRaza or LaRaza or Al Sharpton; or whether most folks keep their cool and be aware that there ARE blacks that do vote conservative. There are Hispanics, (in larger numbers than many whites in most areas of the country), against bilingualism in schools and open borders, that we win on good ideas not fear and hatred.

HogTrash

04-04-2010, 01:12 PM

The country is going to go 'white as minority' by the year you state, more or less. That IS a fact. White reproduction rate is at 2.1, minorities are higher. Don't blame the non-whites, blame white reproduction and the failure to address our open border. Tell your kids to go forth and multiply. How many children do you have? I've 3. Hell my ex, also white, has 2 more. He's done more than his share.You are fighting the point of the issue with every fibre of your being.

Yes, whites bought into the overpopulation scare of the 1970's, unlike the other races that ignored it.

But the real problem for America has been unrestricted immigration and nonexistant border control.

SassyLady

04-04-2010, 02:11 PM

You are fighting the point of the issue with every fibre of your being.

Yes, whites bought into the overpopulation scare of the 1970's, unlike the other races that ignored it.

But the real problem for America has been unrestricted immigration and nonexistant border control.

HT - here's something for you to chew on. Be sure to follow the link and read the entire article and you may, or may not, have read the book.

Power Politics & Population Control

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Birth Control programs viewed as means for Global domination
Representatives of developing nations who participated in the United Nations world population conference at Cairo were incessantly urged to extend "birth-spacing" services and "family planning" education to all couples of reproductive age. Such activities are fundamental to the orderly development of the Southern hemisphere, conference organizers repeatedly insisted.

But birth control programs and population policies have little relationship to health and development and a great deal to do with global power politics, says a book published by the Washington-based Information Project For Africa. Inc.

The book, Excessive Force: Power. Politics and Population Control." documents the involvement of "secret" branches of the U.S. government in elevating population control to a top priority for the west. And it suggests that, despite agreements from officials of developing nations to comply, population projects are likely to fail in many of the most important countries in the south.

Since the start of the 20th Century, the book explains, birthrates in the industrialized world have fallen to levels that are the lowest anywhere in all history. At the same time. fertility has stayed high in much of the developing world. This. it says. means that "the constituency of the world is likely to change in ways that are difficult to imagine."

In this context, the text asks: "What happens when there are dramatic shifts in the world's ethnic and racial makeup? How will these trends alter the balance of power between North and South? What effect will population change have on the global distribution of wealth, resources, and technology? Who will rule the world our children inherit?"

http://afgen.com/populat27.html

namvet

04-04-2010, 02:42 PM

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Kathianne

04-04-2010, 03:38 PM

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Muslims are first or close to it regarding reproduction rates.

HogTrash

04-04-2010, 04:37 PM

Amazing how that "opinion" shines though to discredit any opposing opinion with the pc tag. :slap:When people's only response to my topics and opinions is accusations of racism with no facts to dispute my own, then my "pc tag" is 100% accurate and justified.

Binky

04-04-2010, 05:58 PM

namvet

04-04-2010, 06:03 PM

Muslims are first or close to it regarding reproduction rates.

its been their master plan all along..............

actsnoblemartin

04-04-2010, 06:15 PM

youre human

were all atleast 1% racist and 1% prejudice.

but to say whites are more based on their race is ridiculous :laugh2:

HogTrash

04-04-2010, 11:24 PM

Ht and Kathianne, since you two seem to be agruing over whomever you think is right or wrong, black or white or whatever, why don't you take your fight to the steel cage and duke it out with each other over there? Isn't that what the cage is for? :eek:Kathianne would be forced to dispute my facts with counter facts, instead of the usual PC strategy of repeatedly calling me a racist with never an attempt to disprove my claims.

It is the typical method of debate for those whose beliefs are based on political correctness and have absolutely no rational arguments for their positions.

I'm terribly sorry Kat...I like you very much, but the truth stings like a bee sometimes.

Kathianne

04-05-2010, 06:45 AM

Ht and Kathianne, since you two seem to be agruing over whomever you think is right or wrong, black or white or whatever, why don't you take your fight to the steel cage and duke it out with each other over there? Isn't that what the cage is for? :eek:

Actually no. Take a look at the title of the board. Steel cage is for bad behavior, neither HT nor myself are name calling, being disrespectful. While Mr. HT has just declared himself the 'winner,' one will notice he did it without rancor or disagreement.

OTOH you will note that this very conversation actually proves the point that neither of us is PC. Obviously HT goes out of his way to say outrageous things, he calls 'facts' about minorities and even the current majority. I've no problem, obviously calling out what I perceive as racism and label my opinion, opinion. ;)

Looking back over this thread and others you will find that it really isn't all that pc to call a racist by that name, while actually giving some substance to one's opinion. The pc leftists do just what RSR's point was at the beginning, labeling any actions they disagree with racist, de facto making all Conservatives and most independents at the present time, just that by their parameters.

Kathianne

04-05-2010, 06:59 AM

its been their master plan all along..............

Oh I agree. Orthodox practitioners of most religions have higher than is currently normal birth rates. The Reformation, coupled with Enlightenment really led to severe drop of rate in Christians and all by Orthodox Jews. It changed not only religious practices, (mostly good thing), but also cultural outlook, (more mixed)-science is source of first address of most problems, including pregnancy prevention. If science fails, most turn to religion. I don't know that most think that's 'bad,' but some do.

I would mostly be a member of the above type of belief system. There are certainly times I wish I was more religious, times I wish I could step back. That's a personal dilemma though, here I'm really speaking more to the issue of putting personal desires way above civic good or rather letting others define civic good for all. Look at all the McMasions at over $1m pricetags, 5 or 6 bdr; perhaps a bath or 1/2 less. How many kids? 1 or 2? The most successful people are having the fewest kids in the industrial world. White, Christian Europeans are below replacement numbers. US is just above.

Binky

04-05-2010, 08:52 AM

Actually no. Take a look at the title of the board. Steel cage is for bad behavior, neither HT nor myself are name calling, being disrespectful. While Mr. HT has just declared himself the 'winner,' one will notice he did it without rancor or disagreement.

OTOH you will note that this very conversation actually proves the point that neither of us is PC. Obviously HT goes out of his way to say outrageous things, he calls 'facts' about minorities and even the current majority. I've no problem, obviously calling out what I perceive as racism and label my opinion, opinion. ;)

Looking back over this thread and others you will find that it really isn't all that pc to call a racist by that name, while actually giving some substance to one's opinion. The pc leftists do just what RSR's point was at the beginning, labeling any actions they disagree with racist, de facto making all Conservatives and most independents at the present time, just that by their parameters.

Everyone has a bit of racism in them whether or not they choose to believe it. But the topic has been sooooo over done that it has long since become boring.... As far as racism goes, it's been around, in this country, since its orgins. No matter how hard one tries it isn't going to go away. Racism is a cancer that keeps coming back.....There are always those that perceive themselves to be better than the next person, just because of ones color. It's ridiculous of course, but that's the way it is......

Unfortunately, racism will be around long after any of us are gone.....

Binky

04-05-2010, 08:59 AM

Kathianne would be forced to dispute my facts with counter facts, instead of the usual PC strategy of repeatedly calling me a racist with never an attempt to disprove my claims.

It is the typical method of debate for those whose beliefs are based on political correctness and have absolutely no rational arguments for their positions.

I'm terribly sorry Kat...I like you very much, but the truth stings like a bee sometimes.

We all know how you feel Hog, so what's the point of dreging up that old wound again? You aren't going to change any minds to your way of thinking. Racism has been an open sore for us since we arrived in the Americas. It will never go away.

chloe

04-05-2010, 09:01 AM

Ht and Kathianne, since you two seem to be agruing over whomever you think is right or wrong, black or white or whatever, why don't you take your fight to the steel cage and duke it out with each other over there? Isn't that what the cage is for? :eek:

Let's just book them a room at the Bellagio in Vegas.....:laugh2:....( I kid I kid...don't lynch me)

Binky

04-05-2010, 09:15 AM

Let's just book them a room at the Bellagio in Vegas.....:laugh2:....( I kid I kid...don't lynch me)

I think they'd enjoy that far too much....:laugh2::laugh2:

chloe

04-05-2010, 09:17 AM

I think they'd enjoy that far too much....:laugh2::laugh2:

:cheers2:.....heh heh....well perhaps its exactly what they need...w00t???

Or we can take them out Binky/Chloe style....and then they'd be sorry....wink:dance:

HogTrash

04-05-2010, 09:36 AM

Everyone has a bit of racism in them whether or not they choose to believe it. But the topic has been sooooo over done that it has long since become boring.... As far as racism goes, it's been around, in this country, since its orgins. No matter how hard one tries it isn't going to go away. Racism is a cancer that keeps coming back.....There are always those that perceive themselves to be better than the next person, just because of ones color. It's ridiculous of course, but that's the way it is......

Unfortunately, racism will be around long after any of us are gone.....I agree Binky..."Racism" is way overated as being a serious problem and in fact, many things are misdiagnosed as racism.

Whether we admit it or not, we all make judgements on "differences" whether they be racial, physical deformaties or whatever.

Some short people are uncomfortable around tall people...Others are uncomfortable around ugly people or the handicapped.

Being wary or suspicious of people who are different is a natural human instinct, as long as it doesn't lead to hatred or violence.

Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to feel guilty about this by political correctness, especially those of us who are white.

HogTrash

04-05-2010, 10:24 AM

Let's just book them a room at the Bellagio in Vegas.....:laugh2:....( I kid I kid...don't lynch me)Can you imagine the beautiful and fiery Irish princess Kathianne and my sensible rational self, united forever in harmonious matrimony and cohabitating in sanctimonious glory.

Does The War Of The Roses come to mind?...How about The Smiths?...Ah yes, The Tamming Of The Shrew...Petruchio and Katherine?...Yep, I definately like that one best.

The days would be filled with friction and it's steaming heat cooled by the passion of the nights, only to awaken every morning and begin again...Excuse me, I need a cold shower.

Kathianne

04-05-2010, 04:41 PM

Good lord! I'm cleaning up after party and trying to get ready for school field trip tomorrow and find all you people going on some weird fantasies together! :laugh2:So HT, what about this foot/shoe fetish? :smoke:

:eek:

Well tomorrow's another day, we'll see what happens, but too much to do.

Binky

04-05-2010, 05:58 PM

Can you imagine the beautiful and fiery Irish princess Kathianne and my sensible rational self, united forever in harmonious matrimony and cohabitating in sanctimonious glory.

Does The War Of The Roses come to mind?...How about The Smiths?...Ah yes, The Tamming Of The Shrew...Petruchio and Katherine?...Yep, I definately like that one best.

The days would be filled with friction and it's steaming heat cooled by the passion of the nights, only to awaken every morning and begin again...Excuse me, I need a cold shower.

:laugh2::laugh2: You have a very vivid imagination Hog...I suspect, tho', that Kath would have a vision totally different than the one you have just shared with us.....:laugh2: