Question for Noir

[Abbey Marie]

When we point out your Christian-phobia, you always counter that you are against all religions, but there is no point in discussing the others here because this is a mainly Christian board.

My question then, is: Can you show us where you have gone to a mainly Muslim board and told them how wrong it is for them to believe in Allah or to follow Mohammed?

Surely you have done so, since you are not just against Christianity.

[Noir]

When we point out your Christian-phobia, you always counter that you are against all religions, but there is no point in discussing the others here because this is a mainly Christian board.

My question then, is: Can you show us where you have gone to a mainly Muslim board and told them how wrong it is for them to believe in Allah or to follow Mohammed?

Surely you have done so, since you are not just against Christianity.

I am not a member of any Muslim boards, i have had discussions with people about the Muslim religion, via private chats, infact i think i posted one of them here about a young lady who was under the oppression of women in her society because of the Islamic religion.

If you want i will send out some PMs and ask if i can publicly post the PMs i have had with some Muslims, and if they agree i will take screen shots of the messages and put them up here.

But you'll find that its basically the same stuff i say about christianity but with Allah rather than God ect ect.

[glockmail]

They'll hunt you down and kill you.

[Abbey Marie]

PM's are generally with people you are already comfortable with. I would like to see you on a Muslim board, and have a continuing diatribe on how Allah doesn't exist, and how their religion is the root of all the problems in the world.

(Though I would suggest you do so anonymously and without your picture, to be safe. You may find they don't accept your attack on their beliefs as placidly as we do).

[BoogyMan]

I am not a member of any Muslim boards, i have had discussions with people about the Muslim religion, via private chats, infact i think i posted one of them here about a young lady who was under the oppression of women in her society because of the Islamic religion.

If you want i will send out some PMs and ask if i can publicly post the PMs i have had with some Muslims, and if they agree i will take screen shots of the messages and put them up here.

But you'll find that its basically the same stuff i say about christianity but with Allah rather than God ect ect.

Noir, I enjoy reading the stupid garbage you post. It shows me the depths to which hypocrisy can run with your ardent faith in humanism and atheism. Whether you will admit it or not, it IS faith and you relish the arguments you start when you bait and get a hit on your line.

[glockmail]

They'll stuff your body into the trunk of a Renault in Paris and burn it along with the car in their annual summer riots.

[HogTrash]

I am not a member of any Muslim boards, i have had discussions with people about the Muslim religion, via private chats, infact i think i posted one of them here about a young lady who was under the oppression of women in her society because of the Islamic religion.

If you want i will send out some PMs and ask if i can publicly post the PMs i have had with some Muslims, and if they agree i will take screen shots of the messages and put them up here.

But you'll find that its basically the same stuff i say about christianity but with Allah rather than God ect ect.Well then I will ask you again what you refused to answer in another thread:

Since you directly blame all of Christianity for the actions of individuals who identify themselves as Christians, do you also blame Islam for the actions of jihad terrorist?

This is a very easy question that does not require alot of smoke and mirrors - mumbo-jumbo, to get a simple answer...It's time to come clean, Noir.

[Noir]

PM's are generally with people you are already comfortable with. I would like to see you on a Muslim board, and have a continuing diatribe on how Allah doesn't exist, and how their religion is the root of all the problems in the world.

(Though I would suggest you do so anonymously and without your picture, to be safe. You may find they don't accept your attack on their beliefs as placidly as we do).

I have sent out a few PMs, some of them to people i was talking to who where in need of help, others who were much more confrontational, as happens allot when religion is discussed.

I takes an awful lot of effort to debate this stuff and keep in going when vastly outnumbered, i could not spare the time to join another forum, Muslim or otherwise.

[Noir]

Well then I will ask you again what you refused to answer in another thread:

Since you directly blame all of Christianity for the actions of individuals who identify themselves as Christians, do you also blame Islam for the actions of jihad terrorist?

This is a very easy question that does not require alot of smoke and mirrors - mumbo-jumbo, to get a simple answer...It's time to come clean, Noir.

If someone does something on behalf of a religion then i blame the religion.

If a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders a man because that guy slept with his wife, it is not the fault of Christianity.
However, if a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders an abortion doctor, be justifies it to himself by 'doing gods work' it is the fault of the religion and those that taught him to think like that.

[Noir]

Btw Abbey i couldn't help but notice this is the second or third thread you've made just for me ;)

[glockmail]

Then they'll eviscerate what's left of your roasted body.

[OldMercsRule]

PM's are generally with people you are already comfortable with. I would like to see you on a Muslim board, and have a continuing diatribe on how Allah doesn't exist, and how their religion is the root of all the problems in the world.

(Though I would suggest you do so anonymously and without your picture, to be safe. You may find they don't accept your attack on their beliefs as placidly as we do).

That would be very dangerous for Noir: Abbey.

There is no freedom of speech in Islam.

Liberals in Europe or North America are free to bash Christianity and do so all the time.

Look at response to cartoon images of Muhammad in Jyllands-Posten or Salman Rushdie for examples of Islamic tolerance. JR

[HogTrash]

If someone does something on behalf of a religion then i blame the religion.

If a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders a man because that guy slept with his wife, it is not the fault of Christianity.
However, if a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders an abortion doctor, be justifies it to himself by 'doing gods work' it is the fault of the religion and those that taught him to think like that.Do you really believe Jesus taught his followers to murder those who disobeyed God?

[Abbey Marie]

Btw Abbey i couldn't help but notice this is the second or third thread you've made just for me ;)

I guess I'm just an old-fashioned evangelical after all. :)

[Abbey Marie]

That would be very dangerous for Noir: Abbey.

There is no freedom of speech in Islam.

Liberals in Europe or North America are free to bash Christianity and do so all the time.

Look at response to cartoon images of Muhammad in Jyllands-Posten or Salman Rushdie for examples of Islamic tolerance. JR

I know JR. That is why I advised him to do so anonymously.
But really, he isn't going to do it anyway. Noir will continually deny it, but you will see he really only has a problem with Christians.

[HogTrash]

I know JR. That is why I advised him to do so anonymously.
But really, he isn't going to do it anyway. Noir will continually deny it, but you will see he really only has a problem with Christians.In Noirs liberal world, religion is not the enemy, only Christianty.

[HogTrash]

If someone does something on behalf of a religion then i blame the religion.

If a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders a man because that guy slept with his wife, it is not the fault of Christianity.
However, if a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/anything murders an abortion doctor, be justifies it to himself by 'doing gods work' it is the fault of the religion and those that taught him to think like that.So you hold the Muslim Faith equally responsible for it's religious injustices as you do the Christian Faith? :confused:

[Noir]

So you hold the Muslim Faith equally responsible for it's religious injustices as you do the Christian Faith? :confused:

Ofcourse i do, as i do with any faith, their goal is power.

Other than those like taoism, however, as far as i can see they teach you to waste your life as much as possible, which i find it be a vile message.

[Noir]

@Abbey, i forgot that the site i'm on only saves the last 500 PMs sent and received, so my pool is rather limited, but i did find these 2 sets from a guy (i don't know if he was legit or a troll) from a few weeks ago, sadly he didn't really want to discuss anything, he was more in the business of throwing insults (which was no doubt justified because they were in the name of his god)
It all came about after i posted the following image.

http://restrainedfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/atheism_motivational_poster_29.jpg

The first exchange
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/Screenshot2010-03-19at123311.png?t=1269002603

Then i went away for a few days, when i returned he had not replied to the last PM, so i started the exchange again.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/Screenshot2010-03-19at123349.png?t=1269002670

He did not reply after that, sorry if the text is too small, i can copy&paste it if you like but i wanted to take them as screenshots, thats about as much as i can offer in the way of having a debate with a Muslim about there religion.

[HogTrash]

Ofcourse i do, as i do with any faith, their goal is power.

Other than those like taoism, however, as far as i can see they teach you to waste your life as much as possible, which i find it be a vile message.[1] Would you agree that Christian attrocities pale in comparison to Muslim attrocities?

[2] Which religion, Christianity or Muslim, do you believe is responsible for more charity in the world?

[Noir]

[1] Would you agree that Christian attrocities pale in comparison to Muslim attrocities?

[2] Which religion, Christianity or Muslim, do you believe is responsible for more charity in the world?

1 - I have no idea to be honest. and what you really need to do is not look at this as 'which religion is the least evil' or anything like that, but take religion as a whole, and see what it has enabled within societies and how it has tried to restrict scientific advances.

2- Again i have no idea, nor do i care, and if you do then you have a problem.

[HogTrash]

1 - I have no idea to be honest.You should catch up on international current events...There's alot going on in the world that might shock you.


and what you really need to do is not look at this as 'which religion is the least evil' or anything like that, but take religion as a whole, and see what it has enabled within societies and how it has tried to restrict scientific advances.The greatest threat to "scientific advances" is liberalism which takes funding from scientific research and the space program and diverts it to socialist programs to buy votes with taxpayer money.


2- Again i have no idea, nor do i care, and if you do then you have a problem.Those whose suffering has been aleviated and lives have been saved by Christian compassion might dissagree with you.