View Full Version : Dutch anti-immigration party gains ground in vote
chloe
03-03-2010, 08:32 PM
By TOBY STERLING
Associated Press Writer
AMSTERDAM (AP) - Early returns in Dutch local elections showed an anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party making big gains in a result seen as a possible foreshadowing of national elections in June.
"We're going to take the Netherlands back from the leftist elite, that coddles criminals and supports Islamization," said Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders early Thursday.
Wednesday's voting in 394 cities in theory elects city councils to deal with matters such as parking fees and taxes on dog ownership. But with national elections slated for June 9, Dutch media and politicians are treating the event as a dress rehearsal.
The Freedom Party was leading handily with half the votes counted in the medium-sized city of Almere, around 20 kilometers (12 miles) northeast of Amsterdam.
Voting was conducted with paper and pencil, and full results won't be certified until Friday.
Wilders has drawn comparisons with populists such as Jorg Haider in Austria and Jean-Marie Le Pen in France. He is facing prosecution for allegedly inciting racial hatred with remarks that include describing the Quran a "fascist" book and calling for it to be banned.
His relatively new party is only running in Almere and The Hague, where it is expected to finish second.
An opinion poll commissioned by state broadcaster NOS found that if national elections had been held Wednesday, the result would have been inconclusive.
The country's two largest parties, the conservative Christian Democrats and left-leaning Labor, both lost ground. They have sworn not to join forces again after Labor walked out of their coalition Cabinet last month over Dutch involvement in Afghanistan.
Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende's centrist government collapsed, forcing the recall of 1,600 Dutch soldiers in the province of Uruzgan at the end of their mission in August.
Immigration issues have dominated the Dutch domestic political landscape for a decade. Muslims make up about 6 percent of the population, and Wilders says their presence threatens the Dutch way of life.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=235&sid=9876409
chesswarsnow
03-03-2010, 09:55 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. Well its about time.
2. The Dutch are getting sick and tired of bowing down to islam.
3. If you have a mind that is functioning, then everyone who isn't islam, or a muslim, should be getting sick and tired of it.
4. If your an atheist, then you don't regard any religion, so its no big deal what islam is doing to effect your life directly.
5. But who really cares about atheists???
6. I personally think that they are just mad at their mothers.
7. But anyway, I'm getting off topic, The Dutch are about to lay down some new laws to ban immigration of more muslims to their Country, which is a start.
8. Also they are offering the muslims there already the door if they dont fit in, or break the laws.
9. Link and Sample:http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkcXnYfQSPUksbhuaKnsoXMGFuVAD9E73R4G0
"AMSTERDAM — Dutch voters went to the polls in local elections Wednesday, with political parties opposing Muslim immigration expected to make gains before national elections in June.
The elections in 394 cities in theory cover matters such as parking fees and taxes on dog ownership. But national politicians have put their stances on the NATO mission in Afghanistan and immigrant crime on display in hopes of influencing the local vote."
"Wilders is facing prosecution for allegedly inciting racial hatred with remarks including calling the Quran a "fascist" book and calling for it to be banned."
10. I love how this guy isn't pulling punches, he's right on, ban the crappola!
"For the people that are already here, I say: if you adapt to Dutch laws and Dutch norms and values, you're welcome to stay," Wilders said. "But if you don't, then you go to jail and as far as I'm concerned out of the country."
11. Fit in or get ure ass out!
12. We need to follow suit, and do more, open up you eyes you dumb asses!!!!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
chloe
03-03-2010, 09:57 PM
You might find it interesting same topic
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=26749
chesswarsnow
03-03-2010, 10:02 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. But you gave no opinion, so my thread trumps yours sweetie!:laugh2:
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
chloe
03-03-2010, 10:04 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. But you gave no opinion, so my thread trumps yours sweetie!:laugh2:
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
I didn't know it was a competition I was sharing information you could have posted your opinion to this. I guess you didn't want to.
4. If your an atheist, then you don't regard any religion, so its no big deal what islam is doing to effect your life directly.
Say what?
This may well be the biggest load of bollocks i have read on these forums in a long time.
82Marine89
03-03-2010, 10:28 PM
Say what?
This may well be the biggest load of bollocks i have read on these forums in a long time.
Don't mind CheezeWhiz, he's got a double digit IQ.
Don't mind CheezeWhiz, he's got a double digit IQ.
:laugh2:
I see what you're trying to say, but I have a double digit IQ, so i'll let that one slide...
chesswarsnow
03-03-2010, 10:37 PM
Sorry bout that,
Don't mind CheezeWhiz, he's got a double digit IQ.
1. Oh the PC Police just drove up.
2. Don't you have a thread on homo's to post on?:laugh2:
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
chesswarsnow
03-03-2010, 11:06 PM
Sorry bout that,
I didn't know it was a competition I was sharing information you could have posted your opinion to this. I guess you didn't want to.
1. Its no competition, its just that I don't always go looking around for what other posts are already here.
2. I find a story first then come here and bam! post my thread.
3. Why not post your opinon before you add the link?
4. Makes for better reading, gives me your angle or insight, which allows me to disagree with you or agree, not just ramble on about the link, or whats on the link.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
chloe
03-03-2010, 11:09 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. Its no competition, its just that I don't always go looking around for what other posts are already here.
2. I find a story first then come here and bam! post my thread.
3. Why not post your opinon before you add the link?
4. Makes for better reading, gives me your angle or insight, which allows me to disagree with you or agree, not just ramble on about the link, or whats on the link.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
I post my opinion in many threads when I feel like it, I was sharing a story I found, that's why.:cool:
chesswarsnow
03-03-2010, 11:20 PM
Sorry bout that,
I post my opinion in many threads when I feel like it, I was sharing a story I found, that's why.:cool:
1. Okay suit yourself.
2. I was just kidding you anyways, but when the OP posts opinion, it will always help kick start debate!
3. Some one will come along and merge these two threads anyways, mine will likely be tagged on the end of yours.
4. But that would require it being brought up out of the Terrorism Section, where I post all me stuff!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
chloe
03-03-2010, 11:30 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. Okay suit yourself.
2. I was just kidding you anyways, but when the OP posts opinion, it will always help kick start debate!
3. Some one will come along and merge these two threads anyways, mine will likely be tagged on the end of yours.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Oh well your opinion is good, I just was busy looking at something else on the net and came across this and posted it. I thought you might like it since you were talking about it in your thread. I think its great if the Netherlands get more conservative and want to take the netherlands back by being more anti immigration and anti-islam. Hope that's a good enough answer for now. Have a great night.
HogTrash
03-04-2010, 01:43 AM
The European nations are now where we are heading.
Immigration and minorities are destroying the cultural, religious and political foundations their nations were built upon.
They are now facing a national crisis which the liberals have brought about through political correctness and socialist policies.
These are the direct results of marxist stratagies incorporated to destroy these nations economicly, politicly and socially to bring about their marxist utopian dream.
The people have awakened and are fighting back and It will be interesting to watch and see if they are too late to save their nations because very soon America will be fighting this battle.
In 2010 and 2012 we must hope that 51% of America has wised up to begin our recovery and after that we must eliminate political correctness in order to solve our immigration and minority problems.
White Europe and White America are in a life and death struggle for survival...The left wing main stream media is working overtime in highgeared hyperdrive to keep us ignorant to the seriousness of the situation.
Kathianne
03-04-2010, 06:50 AM
There are hate groups in the Netherlantds, Wilders just isn't one of those folks, rather very concerned about his country and non-assimilation of the folks from the 'East.' Of course their media like ours, tends to disagree:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTM5ZTVkYTlmMDU2ZTdjYTMxYThjYzY5NGM2OTYyNjg=
Wednesday, March 03, 2010
Fringe Benefits [Mark Steyn]
Gee, prosecuting Geert Wilders for "Islamophobia" in a politically rigged show trial seems to be working out just swell for the Dutch establishment. Local election watch from EuroNews:
Attention is also on Geert Wilders’ far-right Freedom Party which is contesting locally for the first time after its strong showing in the European elections.
From Time:
The real victors in the next elections could end up being smaller parties at the fringes of mainstream politics, with polls indicating that the anti-immigrant Freedom Party of Geert Wilders might take second place.
From The Financial Times:
Early results from Dutch local elections on Wednesday night indicated that the far-right anti-immigration party of Geert Wilders was on course to make big gains in a closely watched vote ahead of a general election in June.
...
Monkeybone
03-04-2010, 07:36 AM
Hope it's not too late for them to turn it around. Just think what it would be like... getting all Muslims with the same beliefs in their law making seats.. seeing what happens when they get enough people there... they make it an islamic country... then those that don't like it would just leave and make it oppostion free.
Kathianne
03-04-2010, 08:04 AM
Hope it's not too late for them to turn it around. Just think what it would be like... getting all Muslims with the same beliefs in their law making seats.. seeing what happens when they get enough people there... they make it an islamic country... then those that don't like it would just leave and make it oppostion free.
Like they are in England?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7333420/Islamic-radicals-infiltrate-the-Labour-Party.html
Islamic radicals 'infiltrate' the Labour Party
A Labour minister says his party has been infiltrated by a fundamentalist Muslim group that wants to create an “Islamic social and political order” in Britain.
By Andrew Gilligan
Published: 10:00PM GMT 27 Feb 2010
Jim Fitzpatrick, the Environment Minister
The Islamic Forum of Europe (IFE) — which believes in jihad and sharia law, and wants to turn Britain and Europe into an Islamic state — has placed sympathisers in elected office and claims, correctly, to be able to achieve “mass mobilisation” of voters.
Speaking to The Sunday Telegraph, Jim Fitzpatrick, the Environment Minister, said the IFE had become, in effect, a secret party within Labour and other political parties.
The infiltration of Labour
Inextricably linked to controversial mosque: the secret world of IFE
Radicals with hands on the levers of power: the takeover of Tower Hamlets
“They are acting almost as an entryist organisation, placing people within the political parties, recruiting members to those political parties, trying to get individuals selected and elected so they can exercise political influence and power, whether it’s at local government level or national level,” he said.
“They are completely at odds with Labour’s programme, with our support for secularism.”...
chesswarsnow
03-04-2010, 08:14 AM
Sorry bout that,
1. With my constant proding for the last 15 years, CWN is starting to get some head way!
2. Its taken a long time, but its been worth it.
3. Now if we can just get some traction here in USA?
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Gaffer
03-04-2010, 08:15 AM
Like they are in England?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7333420/Islamic-radicals-infiltrate-the-Labour-Party.html
Infiltration of a political party by a radical group, wow, imagine that's. And what party is it happening too, why the labor (communist) party. I'm sure our London representative will have something to say on this.
chesswarsnow
03-04-2010, 08:32 AM
Sorry bout that,
Infiltration of a political party by a radical group, wow, imagine that's. And what party is it happening too, why the labor (communist) party. I'm sure our London representative will have something to say on this.
1. You mean Noir am I right?!:laugh2:
2. Nah he doesn't care, all religions are the same to him.
3. Well not really, he hates Christians the most, because its what is nearest to him, if islam takes over in his hood, them maybe he will get tired of them, all that praying three times a day on his rug and all.
4. Anyway, he's not political, at least not the English form of politics.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Monkeybone
03-04-2010, 08:35 AM
basically. They can act a certain way until they are the majority and then bickity bam! These guys have patience and people just don't seem to understand that.
and you all are so racist for pointing it out too. even me. curse this PC programming! :thumb:
Monkeybone
03-04-2010, 08:36 AM
Sorry bout that,
1. You mean Noir am I right?!:laugh2:
2. Nah he doesn't care, all religions are the same to him.
3. Well not really, he hates Christians the most, because its what is nearest to him, if islam takes over in his hood, them maybe he will get tired of them, all that praying three times a day on his rug and all.
4. Anyway, he's not political, at least not the English form of politics.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
i wouldn't say Noir hates Chistians.. maybe turned off of them.. but i doubt that if him and I met that he would slug me in the face just for being a Christian. Unless maybe i got preachy...
i wouldn't say Noir hates Chistians.. maybe turned off of them.. but i doubt that if him and I met that he would slug me in the face just for being a Christian. Unless maybe i got preachy...
Indeedy i don't hate christians, i hate religion.
MASSIVE difference, but people don't bother to concern themselves with such petty details, and will happily make assumptions on my behalf.
... but people don't bother to concern themselves with such petty details, and will happily make assumptions on my behalf.
welcome to the internet! Just wait until we get the "cloud"!
Monkeybone
03-04-2010, 09:43 AM
Indeedy i don't hate christians, i hate religion.
MASSIVE difference, but people don't bother to concern themselves with such petty details, and will happily make assumptions on my behalf.
I don't think it is that much assumption, but fact that you are Christian hating Liberal PC Programmed Gay Muslim lovin Pansy boy that is also a socialist.
it's all good Noir. I know Christians that hate religion too. Alot of it is focus and some just focus on the wrong things. But whatcha gonna do...
:cheers2:
welcome to the internet! Just wait until we get the "cloud"!
The cloud will stop many things, but idiocy will not be one of them :laugh2:
I don't think it is that much assumption, but fact that you are Christian hating Liberal PC Programmed Gay Muslim lovin Pansy boy that is also a socialist.
it's all good Noir. I know Christians that hate religion too. Alot of it is focus and some just focus on the wrong things. But whatcha gonna do...
:cheers2:
Muslim loving?
Socialist?
Christian hating?
All news to me sir,
The cloud will stop many things, but idiocy will not be one of them :laugh2:
Too true.
Just as a matter of interest, the US military has been exploring (and in some small ways/areas, beginning to implement) cloud computing. Of course, the military environment presents some unique constraints (security concerns primarily) that hamper implementation of that concept.
Monkeybone
03-04-2010, 10:21 AM
Muslim loving?
Socialist?
Christian hating?
All news to me sir,
hey... it's just what the Internet tells everybody. :laugh2:
HogTrash
03-07-2010, 02:08 PM
There are hate groups in the Netherlantds, Wilders just isn't one of those folks, rather very concerned about his country and non-assimilation of the folks from the 'East.' Of course their media like ours, tends to disagree:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTM5ZTVkYTlmMDU2ZTdjYTMxYThjYzY5NGM2OTYyNjg=I don't believe all of these groups you refer to as "hate groups" are actually hate groups.
This is simply how they are portrayed by the people who control the government and the media.
They're normal people in fear of their future and fed up that government has ignored their problems for far too long.
actsnoblemartin
03-07-2010, 04:23 PM
loving your country, and not wanting un-mitigated immigration of foreigners especially those with radical religious views is racist
yeah right! :poke:
Luna Tick
03-09-2010, 01:35 PM
4. If your an atheist, then you don't regard any religion, so its no big deal what islam is doing to effect your life directly.
Islamic fascists often want Islam to be the state religion and regard atheists as infidels who deserve to be executed. If they did that, it would definitely affect the lives of atheists directly. The 9/11 terrorists certainly affected the lives of atheists since they lost loved ones and were terrorized just like everyone.
5. But who really cares about atheists???
I do. Though I'm not an atheist, I respect them. Most atheists are decent and nonviolent people. They don't deserve to be portrayed as evil as they are by some Christians and Muslims.
6. I personally think that they are just mad at their mothers.
You're not very good at mind reading then.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.