View Full Version : Should children have a FaceBook account?
Mr. P
03-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Yes/No?
At what age?
With conditions?
With supervision?
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10)
Nukeman
03-02-2010, 08:32 PM
Yes/No?
At what age?Depends on the child
With conditions?most definitely
With supervision?most definitely
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10) I would give it a very low 1-2
3 of my children have facebook accounts (youngest is 12, 14 and 17). It is NO WHERE near the level of myspace or accounts like that. My children also have to let us know ALL of their passwords they have to the accounts.
It really is pretty easy to police their accounts and we will periodically go through and do a "friend purge" for people that we don't know or we know they have had trouble with..
krisy
03-02-2010, 09:10 PM
My son is 15 and has one. Most of his friends do as well. I check it regularly. My nine year old daughter wants to set one up,but I wont let her. I just don't feel she needs it right now. Im not crazy about either of their pics being on the net.
As far as danger level....not really sure. My son knows he is not to share personal info with anyone and I have explained why. He seems to comprehend the danger of doing that now that he is older. a few years ago,he was playing games through his game system with people form other parts of the country. He had a regular kid he played with and occasionally played with the kids dad,which I put a stop too.Mainly because he gave the kid our phone number:eek: He was calling late at night. It was then that I had to stress the importance of not giving ANY info to strangers.
I have a friend, her 7 year old daughter has account , I don't agree with it but, she sits with her while she is on, I spoke to her this morning and Mommy was right there, if ya can do this I don't think there is any reason why a child can't have one, it helps teach them computers
But yes on supervision
And yes with conditions
I don't think there is much of a risk at all as long as the parents are there with them
gabosaurus
03-02-2010, 10:41 PM
My eight year old daughter has a facebook account. But she is not allowed on it unless my husband or I are there to supervise. She does not know the password.
She uses it to communicate with her relatives, who are spread out. They send her notes and pictures and such and she loves it. It makes her feel special.
SassyLady
03-03-2010, 12:10 AM
Yes/No? No
At what age? 18
With conditions?not if they are 18
With supervision?that's why I said 18 - so they can do what they want and we don't have to supervise
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10)10
I have a 10 year old granddaughter that recently got sucked into joining a social networking site that looked great for little girls, but you just never know who the other "little girls" are so we had to cancel it for her. So, I'm not a big fan of social networking for underage kids.
revelarts
03-03-2010, 12:15 AM
Yes/No?NO
At what age? 16-18
With conditions? strict
With supervision? yes
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10) yes
I didn't have my first social networking site until i was 15 when i made my first social networks on Bebo and Gaia, mainly due to the fact that they were not really big back then.
There was no parental supervision or anything like that, and i would say the level of danger is very very low, but the internet is just seen as an evil place, and thus people assume its dangerous.
Yes/No? Yes
At what age? 12
With conditions? Taught internet Safety at first year of secondary school.
With supervision? Minimal.
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10) 2.
Agnapostate
03-03-2010, 01:31 AM
My son is 15 and has one. Most of his friends do as well. I check it regularly. My nine year old daughter wants to set one up,but I wont let her. I just don't feel she needs it right now. Im not crazy about either of their pics being on the net.
Oh, it ultimately isn't of much consequence. :laugh:
Mr. P
03-03-2010, 01:10 PM
It looks like most of you who allow your child an account are supervising. That's a good thing.
What prompted the OP was hearing an FBI agent talk about this subject on the radio last night.
The agent is the spokesman for the Cleveland FBI Cyber Crimes unit.
He said, social networking sites such as FaceBook are much more dangerous for children than people think they are. One of the things he mentioned was 25% of the kids on these sites WILL have contact with a pedophile online.
The agent in charge of the Miami Cyber Crimes unit (a mother) said,
If you allow your child to have such a social connection like FaceBook, you are essentially opening a hole in the wall of your home that the pedophiles can walk right through.
The FBI Cyber Crime agents look for these folks all the time so I trust they know what they're talking about.
Strong Supervision and guidance ARE the key here IMO. But don't be lulled into a false since of security..If your child has an account they CAN log in from anywhere not just at home.
It looks like most of you who allow your child an account are supervising. That's a good thing.
What prompted the OP was hearing an FBI agent talk about this subject on the radio last night.
The agent is the spokesman for the Cleveland FBI Cyber Crimes unit.
He said, social networking sites such as FaceBook are much more dangerous for children than people think they are. One of the things he mentioned was 25% of the kids on these sites WILL have contact with a pedophile online.
The agent in charge of the Miami Cyber Crimes unit (a mother) said,
If you allow your child to have such a social connection like FaceBook, you are essentially opening a hole in the wall of your home that the pedophiles can walk right through.
The FBI Cyber Crime agents look for these folks all the time so I trust they know what they're talking about.
Strong Supervision and guidance ARE the key here IMO. But don't be lulled into a false since of security..If your child has an account they CAN log in from anywhere not just at home.
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
25%?
Thats utter tosh, just how many pedophiles do they think are out there?
I mean, facebook alone has 60 million users, then there's bebo, flicker, Habbo, Gaia, Myspace, Tumblr, deviantART, Friendster, LiveJournal, Ning and twitter, and those are only the well known ones i can name of the top of my head. (all with millions of users)
And they think that one in every four of the kids on these sites know a pedo? I find that impossible to believe.
Mr. P
03-03-2010, 01:45 PM
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
25%?
Thats utter tosh, just how many pedophiles do they think are out there?
I mean, facebook alone has 60 million users, then there's bebo, flicker, Habbo, Gaia, Myspace, Tumblr, deviantART, Friendster, LiveJournal, Ning and twitter, and those are only the well known ones i can name of the top of my head. (all with millions of users)
And they think that one in every four of the kids on these sites know a pedo? I find that impossible to believe.
No, they didn't say they "know" one..they said they would have "contact" with one, big difference, and the point is the kids don't know who "that other" person really is.
krisy
03-03-2010, 01:59 PM
Oh, it ultimately isn't of much consequence. :laugh:
:laugh2: I hear ya!
krisy
03-03-2010, 02:03 PM
My son is home sick today from school. He just came to me and said.."mom,do you know this guy?"
It's some Mexican dude on Facebook asking him to be friends with my son. That is creepy!! I told him heck no,and DONT accept his frienship request casue he's probably a perv stalker.
No, they didn't say they "know" one..they said they would have "contact" with one, big difference, and the point is the kids don't know who "that other" person really is.
Yeah, obviously they would not know they are pedos, however, it says "25% of the kids on these sites WILL have contact with a pedophile online" and there is no way thats true, no way in a month of sundays
I mean take Gaia for example, its a pretty friendly site for young people, now its got 21,258,256 registered users, and i'd say a good portion of them are under 15, but even if that were not the case and only 5% of them were under 15, thats about 1,062,912 under 15's, and so the FBI are saying about 250,000 of them talk to people who are pedos?
Mr. P
03-03-2010, 02:07 PM
My son is home sick today from school. He just came to me and said.."mom,do you know this guy?"
It's some Mexican dude on Facebook asking him to be friends with my son. That is creepy!! I told him heck no,and DONT accept his frienship request casue he's probably a perv stalker.
There ya go.
BTW..I'd get my child's pic off there.
krisy
03-03-2010, 02:25 PM
There ya go.
BTW..I'd get my child's pic off there.
This was a grown man too. I just went and asked my son if the man was friends with any of his facebook friends and he said that the man is friends with my nephew:eek: He is 18,and a senior in high school. I told my son that I will be giving Timmy a call because I have a suspicion he just accepted the guys request to be nice. Also,I told him that there is NO reason for him and my son to be friends considering he doesn't know my son and vice versa.
I'm anxious to talk to my nephew to see if he knows the guy. Even if he does....you don't go around asking people you don't know to be friends.
krisy
03-03-2010, 02:26 PM
Hmmmm. Maybe I should have him take his pics down. Never had a problem before.
Trigg
03-03-2010, 02:27 PM
Yeah, obviously they would not know they are pedos, however, it says "25% of the kids on these sites WILL have contact with a pedophile online" and there is no way thats true, no way in a month of sundays
I mean take Gaia for example, its a pretty friendly site for young people, now its got 21,258,256 registered users, and i'd say a good portion of them are under 15, but even if that were not the case and only 5% of them were under 15, thats about 1,062,912 under 15's, and so the FBI are saying about 250,000 of them talk to people who are pedos?
wait until you have kids and see how cautious you become.
There are a lot of creepy people out there and the internet has made it easier for them to gain access to innocent children.
The internet isn't evil, it's the people who use it.
wait until you have kids and see how cautious you become.
There are a lot of creepy people out there and the internet has made it easier for them to gain access to innocent children.
The internet isn't evil, it's the people who use it.
By the time i have kids the internet will not be the internet, but the one, or some prefer to call it the cloud, and will be the first step towards us becoming a level one civilisation.
Trigg
03-03-2010, 02:36 PM
By the time i have kids the internet will not be the internet, but the one, or some prefer to call it the cloud, and will be the first step towards us becoming a level one civilisation.
is the sky in your world pink and sparkly today?
is the sky in your world pink and sparkly today?
Have you not heard of the cloud? The ideas been about for a few years now, but its only starting to come onto being.
There is a very good TED talk on the 'cloud' or the 'one' i shall find it for you.
Gaffer
03-03-2010, 02:39 PM
Yeah, obviously they would not know they are pedos, however, it says "25% of the kids on these sites WILL have contact with a pedophile online" and there is no way thats true, no way in a month of sundays
I mean take Gaia for example, its a pretty friendly site for young people, now its got 21,258,256 registered users, and i'd say a good portion of them are under 15, but even if that were not the case and only 5% of them were under 15, thats about 1,062,912 under 15's, and so the FBI are saying about 250,000 of them talk to people who are pedos?
One pedo can contact a hundred kids a day. He could be talking to any number of them. So if there are a thousand pedo's out there attempting to make contact with kids the average is about right.They are out there fishing and making the occasional catch. You may have talked to some yourself and never realized it. This is a country of 300 million people, if 1% are pedo's what are the chances of a kid talking to one without knowing it.
While we're talking about this i thought i'd drop a few funny pics, basicly the sites called Chatroulette.com, you go to the site and it links you randomly with someone else on the site, you can talk by text and you see eachothers webcams, but no details are given out of who you are, where you're from ect unless you give them out, and you can obviously leave at any time,
Anyways, here's a few funny ones
Batman&Obamma
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/19849_336430337118_219176617118_466.jpg?t=12676450 44
Jackpot
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/tumblr_kyih7wriND1qaa7t1o1_1280.jpg?t=1267645354
2 That a freind of mine did
'Strike a pose'
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/Picture9-1.png?t=1267645418
'Frenchies found me scary'
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/Picture10-1.png?t=1267645446
And the best of all,
The attack of Anonymous. (the women in this was toppless but i edited it so as to be safe for work ect)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/1267641822043.jpg?t=1267645572
The last one is epic :laugh2:
One pedo can contact a hundred kids a day. He could be talking to any number of them. So if there are a thousand pedo's out there attempting to make contact with kids the average is about right.They are out there fishing and making the occasional catch. You may have talked to some yourself and never realized it. This is a country of 300 million people, if 1% are pedo's what are the chances of a kid talking to one without knowing it.
Yeah but thats ONE website, out of many dozens of equal size, i still think its grossly over exaggerated, and indeedy i'm sure i have given the likes the of Chans.
But enough about the problem, lets get solutions on the table, really its very simple. If someone you don't know whats to start talking to you then the first time you talk it should be Via webcam. With a single stroke pedos from IMs, Social sites and IRCs are wiped out, unless the pedo also looks like a 13 year old girl/boy, which is predy unlikely.
Mr. P
03-03-2010, 03:03 PM
wait until you have kids and see how cautious you become.
There are a lot of creepy people out there and the internet has made it easier for them to gain access to innocent children.
The internet isn't evil, it's the people who use it.
By the time i have kids the internet will not be the internet, but the one, or some prefer to call it the cloud, and will be the first step towards us becoming a level one civilisation.
And the pedophiles will still be there looking for their target.
And the pedophiles will still be there looking for their target.
The one will eliminate that, ofcourse with the One comes a lack of privacy, infact it is totally transparent. Thats the trade of for rewards like the removal of pedophiles from the internet.
Mr. P
03-03-2010, 03:15 PM
The one will eliminate that, ofcourse with the One comes a lack of privacy, infact it is totally transparent. Thats the trade of for rewards like the removal of pedophiles from the internet.
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
"The one" will eliminate intent? Not in your lifetime, son.
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
"The one" will eliminate intent? Not in your lifetime, son.
No, not intent. But Data will be seamlessly linked to data, if you look up child pornography that is part of your data. Heck if you look up any pornography that is part of your data.
Is there any privacy in this? No.
Is it a price worth paying? I would say so.
I can only suggest you watch the Ted Talk i posted in the site, that guy explains it better than i can, but the seamless linking of Data with Data will spell the end for many of the forms of abuse that pedos have been able to use in todays age
krisy
03-03-2010, 04:01 PM
[QUOTE=Noir;412801]Yeah but thats ONE website, out of many dozens of equal size, i still think its grossly over exaggerated, and indeedy i'm sure i have given the likes the of Chans.
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Noir,Its not exaggerated. And anyway If just ONE child is hurt by one these scum,that's too many!!! Set aside whatever your talking about with these other websites....when you become a parent,you WILL look at things very differently! Your kids will mean everything to you!
There have been tons of guys busted locally here by cops acting like teen girls on the internet. Thats just in my part of Ohio.
krisy
03-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Also,I just talked to my nephew and he has no clue who the guy is!!! I'm tempted to send him a friend request and give him a talkin to!!! Of course,I'm a grown woman,so maybe he won't give me a second thought.
Gaffer
03-03-2010, 04:18 PM
Also,I just talked to my nephew and he has no clue who the guy is!!! I'm tempted to send him a friend request and give him a talkin to!!! Of course,I'm a grown woman,so maybe he won't give me a second thought.
My bet is he's queer.
Kathianne
03-03-2010, 04:41 PM
I agree with the 25% figure, as Gaffer said, one pedo can contact literally hundreds, even thousands. That doesn't mean success, but contact.
What I've seen as the most prevalent problem with social networking and young teens is bullying.
Yeah but thats ONE website, out of many dozens of equal size, i still think its grossly over exaggerated, and indeedy i'm sure i have given the likes the of Chans.
Noir,Its not exaggerated. And anyway If just ONE child is hurt by one these scum,that's too many!!! Set aside whatever your talking about with these other websites....when you become a parent,you WILL look at things very differently! Your kids will mean everything to you!
There have been tons of guys busted locally here by cops acting like teen girls on the internet. Thats just in my part of Ohio.
Indeedy, but what i'm trying to say is that in the future, with data to data connectivity, there will be no such possibilities for pedos, now there are several 'drawbacks' to this systems i.e. people will know what you access on the web and so forth, the question will be if we want to give up privacy for transparency. While its not an easy choice, i think most will agree transparency trumps all.
Agnapostate
03-03-2010, 05:14 PM
How do you know the guy's Mexican? Does he have a copy of his Mexican birth certificate as his profile picture?
wait until you have kids and see how cautious you become.
There are a lot of creepy people out there and the internet has made it easier for them to gain access to innocent children.
The internet isn't evil, it's the people who use it.
The mass media has found a popular niche in marketing alarmist propaganda to frightened mother hens who won't let the chicks peek out from under the wing because they constantly see the invisible hawk swooping overhead. In actual statistical terms, the probability of children being abducted based on Internet contact is absurdly low.
krisy
03-03-2010, 05:47 PM
How do you know the guy's Mexican? Does he have a copy of his Mexican birth certificate as his profile picture?
The mass media has found a popular niche in marketing alarmist propaganda to frightened mother hens who won't let the chicks peek out from under the wing because they constantly see the invisible hawk swooping overhead. In actual statistical terms, the probability of children being abducted based on Internet contact is absurdly low.
Uhhhh.maybe I can tell he's Mexican because he looks Mexican and has a name that matches,which I won't post here. Give me some credit...geese.
And Agno,while you seem to be a pretty smart guy,you are out of your league on this. First of all,it is a mothers job to protect her "chicks"...first and foremost. You make it sound as if we are being unnecessarily cautious. Would you take a chance,any chance if it were your child roaming the net?
Just curious if you have any statistics. After this mother hen makes dinner and gets kids settled down,I may try to hunt for some myself:coffee:
Also,I'm curious why do you look at warnings of internet prowlers as a marketing technique? Give us some credit to be smart enough to know what a real threat is. How stupid would it be to let our kids roam the net without supervision?
Agnapostate
03-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Uhhhh.maybe I can tell he's Mexican because he looks Mexican
What does a Mexican look like? Like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Mexican_Girls.jpg
Or like this?
http://cultureofsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/afro_mexicans.jpg
"Mexican," as with "Canadian," "American," etc., is a national demonym, not a racial or ethnic demonym; Mexicans are not a race or ethnic group, and there are white, black, Asian, Arab, and Jewish Mexicans. I realize that you referred to the Mexicans of full and mixed-blooded Amerindian descent, but it's inaccurate to depict them as the homogenous totality of the population because they constitute the majority, as it would be with whites in the U.S.
and has a name that matches
What is a Mexican name? Carlos Slim Helú (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim)? Ricardo Dájer Nahum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_D%C3%A1jer_Nahum)? Salma Hayek? All Mexicans! Consider the point that I made the other day to our resident hillbillies. According to your stereotypical ideas of what "Mexicans" and "Hispanics" are (Indian-looking, though you don't connect them with Indians, and with Spanish names), this Kyle Valdez (http://www.playitsmart.org/kyle_valdez.php) is "Mexican," despite being a Mescalero Apache. His name is Valdez because the Spanish occupation of the U.S. Southwest left such scars. This leads to the moronic trend of the descendants of those here less than 500 years telling sons of this land to "go back where they came from."
And Agno,while you seem to be a pretty smart guy,you are out of your league on this. First of all,it is a mothers job to protect her "chicks"...first and foremost. You make it sound as if we are being unnecessarily cautious. Would you take a chance,any chance if it were your child roaming the net?
Just curious if you have any statistics. After this mother hen makes dinner and gets kids settled down,I may try to hunt for some myself:coffee:
Also,I'm curious why do you look at warnings of internet prowlers as a marketing technique? Give us some credit to be smart enough to know what a real threat is. How stupid would it be to let our kids roam the net without supervision?
There are one to two hundred minors abducted by strangers every year, in a country with tens of millions of them. How many are harmed and killed by far more dangerous elements? (http://www.youthfacts.org/cyber.html)
krisy
03-03-2010, 07:29 PM
What does a Mexican look like? Like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Mexican_Girls.jpg
Or like this?
http://cultureofsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/afro_mexicans.jpg
"Mexican," as with "Canadian," "American," etc., is a national demonym, not a racial or ethnic demonym; Mexicans are not a race or ethnic group, and there are white, black, Asian, Arab, and Jewish Mexicans. I realize that you referred to the Mexicans of full and mixed-blooded Amerindian descent, but it's inaccurate to depict them as the homogenous totality of the population because they constitute the majority, as it would be with whites in the U.S.
What is a Mexican name? Carlos Slim Helú (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim)? Ricardo Dájer Nahum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_D%C3%A1jer_Nahum)? Salma Hayek? All Mexicans! Consider the point that I made the other day to our resident hillbillies. According to your stereotypical ideas of what "Mexicans" and "Hispanics" are (Indian-looking, though you don't connect them with Indians, and with Spanish names), this Kyle Valdez (http://www.playitsmart.org/kyle_valdez.php) is "Mexican," despite being a Mescalero Apache. His name is Valdez because the Spanish occupation of the U.S. Southwest left such scars. This leads to the moronic trend of the descendants of those here less than 500 years telling sons of this land to "go back where they came from."
There are one to two hundred minors abducted by strangers every year, in a country with tens of millions of them. How many are harmed and killed by far more dangerous elements? (http://www.youthfacts.org/cyber.html)
For Petes sake,what do you want me to do.....research the guys name and ancestors? Call him what you like. I will call him 'hispanic".:thumb:
Thanks for posting the statistics,however the writer seems to be very skeptical. No one blames the internet itself,but like Trigg said....the people on it. I never meant to insinuate that the internet was the number 1 leading cause of abuse,just that it happens. and can happen to any kid who is naieve(sp?)Some parents don't "patrol" what their kids are doing.
I would like to however do a little more research....
glockmail
03-03-2010, 07:39 PM
Yes/No?
At what age?
With conditions?
With supervision?
What level of danger is there, in your opinion? (1-10)
By all means, at the age that they want to, yes. I insist that mine make me a "friend" or they can't post.
What happens is that they eventually forget that you're seeing everything that they post, and its a great way to keep tabs on them, as well as their friends.
krisy
03-03-2010, 08:28 PM
By all means, at the age that they want to, yes. I insist that mine make me a "friend" or they can't post.
What happens is that they eventually forget that you're seeing everything that they post, and its a great way to keep tabs on them, as well as their friends.
That is a great idea!!!
Agnapostate
03-03-2010, 08:51 PM
For Petes sake,what do you want me to do.....research the guys name and ancestors? Call him what you like. I will call him 'hispanic".:thumb:
He's probably a mestizo. "Hispanic" is worse.
krisy
03-03-2010, 09:11 PM
He's probably a mestizo. "Hispanic" is worse.
Sorry:dunno:
Its just a general term.
chloe
03-03-2010, 09:13 PM
Sorry:dunno:
Its just a general term.
Don't worry I get it confused too.
Agnapostate
03-03-2010, 09:29 PM
Sorry:dunno:
Its just a general term.
For what? You don't see a difference between Eduardo Galeano and Sammy Sosa, between Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, etc.?
glockmail
03-04-2010, 08:50 AM
That is a great idea!!! I am The Master.
Trinity
03-04-2010, 09:59 AM
By all means, at the age that they want to, yes. I insist that mine make me a "friend" or they can't post.
What happens is that they eventually forget that you're seeing everything that they post, and its a great way to keep tabs on them, as well as their friends.
My 14 year old has a myspace account he has had his for about 3 years, he didn't want a facebook account not yet anyway, however I also have his user name and password for his accounts. I set his accounts up with all the privacy features such as no one over the age of 18 is able to contact him however that is not full proof people can and do lie about their ages. He also is only allowed to add his friends and family member's that he and I know personally.
But he is on my friends list, and yes they do forget they are friends with their parents. I can see what he posts, and there have been a few times I have called him on something that he posted and said you need to change that or remove it.
Now that he is living with his dad I check out his page even more then I did before because I know his father does not keep tabs on those types of things. I also log into his account regularly to see what new friends he may have added and what types of messages he is sending and receiving. So far he still seems to be following the rules I set up with him from day one.:thumb:
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 04:27 PM
So there aren't a gazillion kids kidnapped by Internet predators. The odds of dying from a snake bite are 1 in 36 million. Does that mean I should leave my child alone in the desert overnight?
Or, total household poisonings (adult and child) in the US are only around 10,000 per year. Should I leave the insecticide can open beside an unattended toddler?
Agnapostate
03-04-2010, 04:28 PM
We're speaking of imprisoning them in a snake-proof bubble.
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 04:37 PM
We're speaking of imprisoning them in a snake-proof bubble.
No, we are guarding the den against predators until our cubs are old enough to protect themselves. Until you have children, you can't understand the protectiveness of a parent, let alone a mom.
Agnapostate
03-04-2010, 04:40 PM
No, we are guarding the den against predators until our cubs are old enough to protect themselves. Until you have children, you can't understand the protectiveness of a parent, let alone a mom.
If you're being deliberately ambiguous, I can't comment one way or the other. Everyone can speak of "protection," but unless you speak of what you actually do (i.e. cyber-spying), I can't actually comment on its value.
I don't have children, but I do have a child (singular), though not one old enough to be interested in using Facebook. However, I'm not interested in personal experiences, which are by nature anecdotal and of little use. I'm interested in statistical evidence.
jimnyc
03-04-2010, 04:44 PM
I don't have children, but I do have a child (singular),
Aggy has a child at such an age, how beaneresque! :laugh2:
Agnapostate
03-04-2010, 04:47 PM
Aggy has a child at such an age, how beaneresque! :laugh2:
You know it, beaver! :laugh:
http://i2.estamosdentro.com/eventos/mayo2008/iteso/jueves8//1g.jpg
jimnyc
03-04-2010, 04:54 PM
You know it, beaver! :laugh:
We've seen your picture, you couldn't spit out anything that even resembles the white man. If anything, you have a child via abandonment.
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 05:35 PM
If you're being deliberately ambiguous, I can't comment one way or the other. Everyone can speak of "protection," but unless you speak of what you actually do (i.e. cyber-spying), I can't actually comment on its value.
I don't have children, but I do have a child (singular), though not one old enough to be interested in using Facebook. However, I'm not interested in personal experiences, which are by nature anecdotal and of little use. I'm interested in statistical evidence.
Ah, yes, you have proven my point exactly. Sorry, I don't believe that you have a child. If you had, you would understand the imperative to protect one's young from all dangers, without the need of external evidence (statistical or otherwise).
Btw, I didn't need to see your picture to deduce this, but it doesn't hurt. ;)
jimnyc
03-04-2010, 06:26 PM
Ah, yes, you have proven my point exactly. Sorry, I don't believe that you have a child. If you had, you would understand the imperative to protect one's young from all dangers, without the need of external evidence (statistical or otherwise).
Btw, I didn't need to see your picture to deduce this, but it doesn't hurt. ;)
His response is not relevant as a child is the last person I would seek out for advice on how to raise another child. He's a huge believer in the youth rights movement and thinks there really shouldn't be any age limits to driving, drinking and whether or not children have the proper capacity to consent to sex with adults. I'm all for a rebellious youth and felt like lashing out myself at times when I was that age, but my life would have likely been ruined if the adults listened to me and allowed me to always make my own choices. Anyone who thinks children should have the right to engage in sexual acts with adults is a bit cuckoo in my book.
gabosaurus
03-04-2010, 06:48 PM
No, we are guarding the den against predators until our cubs are old enough to protect themselves. Until you have children, you can't understand the protectiveness of a parent, let alone a mom.
Exactly! Yet more proof that Abbey is the smartest admin on this board.
You can't hide your kids under a blanket all their life (well, you can, but home schooling is another topic). Eventually, they have to come out and meet the real world.
I use the internet as a teaching tool. My daughter has a facebook account to communicate with her relatives and a few family friends. I decide who communicates with her.
Parents need to have that type of control. If you don't oversee and approve what your child reads, sees and hears, you are not doing your job as a parent.
krisy
03-04-2010, 07:27 PM
For what? You don't see a difference between Eduardo Galeano and Sammy Sosa, between Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, etc.?
You've got to be kidding me?!!! I am a working mom with two kids. Do you actually think I have time or CARE about the exact race or origin of these guys? Do you honestly think people are going to go research it on the net so when they talk about Sosa they specifically mention that there is a difference between him and Fidel Castro.
You are taking this thing to a somewhat ridiculous level.
I describe myself as a white woman,thats good enough for most people.
jimnyc
03-04-2010, 09:12 PM
Exactly! Yet more proof that Abbey is the smartest admin on this board.
Weren't you dissing the entire team of staff back on the 23rd of February? Now you want to suck up because Abbey is probably the lone member left here who isn't tired of your stupid shit?
krisy
03-04-2010, 09:47 PM
His response is not relevant as a child is the last person I would seek out for advice on how to raise another child. He's a huge believer in the youth rights movement and thinks there really shouldn't be any age limits to driving, drinking and whether or not children have the proper capacity to consent to sex with adults. I'm all for a rebellious youth and felt like lashing out myself at times when I was that age, but my life would have likely been ruined if the adults listened to me and allowed me to always make my own choices. Anyone who thinks children should have the right to engage in sexual acts with adults is a bit cuckoo in my book.
:eek::eek::eek:
I didn't know all this. There's way too much of an "I know it all" attitude there.
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 10:53 PM
His response is not relevant as a child is the last person I would seek out for advice on how to raise another child. He's a huge believer in the youth rights movement and thinks there really shouldn't be any age limits to driving, drinking and whether or not children have the proper capacity to consent to sex with adults. I'm all for a rebellious youth and felt like lashing out myself at times when I was that age, but my life would have likely been ruined if the adults listened to me and allowed me to always make my own choices. Anyone who thinks children should have the right to engage in sexual acts with adults is a bit cuckoo in my book.
Dear lord. It's much worse than I thought. Ick.
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 10:55 PM
Weren't you dissing the entire team of staff back on the 23rd of February? Now you want to suck up because Abbey is probably the lone member left here who isn't tired of your stupid shit?
Uh, not to cause trouble boss, but Gabby and I have always gotten along very well. :)
jimnyc
03-04-2010, 11:06 PM
Uh, not to cause trouble boss, but Gabby and I have always gotten along very well. :)
Don't doubt that, even stated that you were the only one left that would tolerate her, probably because you do get along with her. But, that doesn't change the fact that she takes jabs at staff, and called out the entire team back on the 23rd, including yourself. You are also a "ConRep" staff member with no sense of humor, at least when it comes to Gabby talking shit about Glock's family.
Abbey Marie
03-04-2010, 11:10 PM
Don't doubt that, even stated that you were the only one left that would tolerate her, probably because you do get along with her. But, that doesn't change the fact that she takes jabs at staff, and called out the entire team back on the 23rd, including yourself. You are also a "ConRep" staff member with no sense of humor, at least when it comes to Gabby talking shit about Glock's family.
I must have missed that. I am a ConRep, though, and proud of it. :salute:
Agnapostate
03-07-2010, 01:15 AM
We've seen your picture, you couldn't spit out anything that even resembles the white man. If anything, you have a child via abandonment.
I couldn't, no, because I'm an Indian. The millions of whites in Mexico, however, probably could.
Ah, yes, you have proven my point exactly. Sorry, I don't believe that you have a child. If you had, you would understand the imperative to protect one's young from all dangers, without the need of external evidence (statistical or otherwise).
Btw, I didn't need to see your picture to deduce this, but it doesn't hurt. ;)
That's fine. My personal experiences have no substantial relevance to the greater point, anyway, so I don't share the indignity at being called a liar that most people probably would. For the record, I do understand your sentiments. I do. Childrearing has always been a war waged between my heart and my mind, between my emotions and my reason, with my mind occasionally convincing me that there's far less to lose being on the "safe side," which I'd imagine is what you feel when it comes to these Internet issues. And it's hard to think about these issues objectively when there's kids involved, and there's always a certain feeling that informs the thought of parents that can't be communicated to non-parents in words.
I don't think, however, that we benefit our children by helicoptering or by entirely ignoring the statistical evidence out there. But I also see the point that that's not going to convince the parent whose son or daughter was the one in a million. Hearing that his or her child was the exception to the general rule doesn't change anything.
His response is not relevant as a child is the last person I would seek out for advice on how to raise another child. He's a huge believer in the youth rights movement and thinks there really shouldn't be any age limits to driving, drinking and whether or not children have the proper capacity to consent to sex with adults. I'm all for a rebellious youth and felt like lashing out myself at times when I was that age, but my life would have likely been ruined if the adults listened to me and allowed me to always make my own choices. Anyone who thinks children should have the right to engage in sexual acts with adults is a bit cuckoo in my book.
If you want to join the debate on the topic that everyone on this forum and every other forum I've joined has lost and I have won, you're certainly free to do so. We both know you're not intelligent or articulate enough to maintain even the slightest pretension of being able to challenge me in a debate, though; you'd be the Ewok trying to duel Darth Vader.
You are taking this thing to a somewhat ridiculous level.
I describe myself as a white woman,thats good enough for most people.
I'm not. I'm just suggesting that you apply the same standards elsewhere. When you see a white with a Spanish name, such a person is white, a black with a Spanish name is black, etc.
jimnyc
03-07-2010, 06:35 AM
If you want to join the debate on the topic that everyone on this forum and every other forum I've joined has lost and I have won, you're certainly free to do so. We both know you're not intelligent or articulate enough to maintain even the slightest pretension of being able to challenge me in a debate, though; you'd be the Ewok trying to duel Darth Vader.
Why would I bother entertaining you in a debate as to whether or not it's proper for a child to be competent enough to decide to have sexual relations with an adult? That would be akin to me debating with you whether or not 2+2=4, and you would come back with all kinds of fancy equations and algorithms trying your hardest to prove the impossible, declare your math superior, and yet still be wrong before the debate ever began. It's not even a difference of opinion, it's clear cut wrong and right, and any dolt believing otherwise is just a child whining about how they think they know everything.
Exactly! Yet more proof that Abbey is the smartest admin on this board.
You can't hide your kids under a blanket all their life (well, you can, but home schooling is another topic). Eventually, they have to come out and meet the real world.
I use the internet as a teaching tool. My daughter has a facebook account to communicate with her relatives and a few family friends. I decide who communicates with her.
Parents need to have that type of control. If you don't oversee and approve what your child reads, sees and hears, you are not doing your job as a parent.
So, we can't hide our kids, but we should teach them to sit quietly and the bad black people won't notice them :poke:
Every time Gabbaho starts to type there is more stupid shit posted on this site
Weren't you dissing the entire team of staff back on the 23rd of February? Now you want to suck up because Abbey is probably the lone member left here who isn't tired of your stupid shit?
:laugh2::laugh2:
The entire staff are more than understanding to idiots (including me) but I think Abbey could get a rattlesnake to behave :laugh2:
Abbey Marie
03-07-2010, 02:47 PM
:laugh2::laugh2:
The entire staff are more than understanding to idiots (including me) but I think Abbey could get a rattlesnake to behave :laugh2:
Aww, thanks, Jeff. I wish! :laugh2:
glockmail
03-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Back to the topic, I recommend to any parent that they use a filtering device on their kids computer to keep the crap out. I've used Windozes types over the years but when my son got smart enough to build his own computers with multiple operating systems I realized that the only way to control things was to use a router level filter. I've been using the iboss now for three years.
jimnyc
03-08-2010, 05:47 AM
Back to the topic, I recommend to any parent that they use a filtering device on their kids computer to keep the crap out. I've used Windozes types over the years but when my son got smart enough to build his own computers with multiple operating systems I realized that the only way to control things was to use a router level filter. I've been using the iboss now for three years.
A free and easy way to filter certain sites is to edit the systems HOSTS file. For example, just add the following line to the file
facebook.com 127.0.0.1
glockmail
03-08-2010, 08:32 AM
A free and easy way to filter certain sites is to edit the systems HOSTS file. For example, just add the following line to the file
facebook.com 127.0.0.1 I guess that's what I pay them $60/ year to do.
Trinity
03-08-2010, 06:03 PM
I guess that's what I pay them $60/ year to do.
:coffee: yep I'd say that's it.
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