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Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 02:30 PM
New Taliban Video Shows Young Boy Beheading 'American Spy'


Saturday, April 21, 2007


KILI FAQIRAN, Pakistan — The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. Then he hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists it in triumph by the hair.

A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam Nabi, a Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who was killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan.

An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting his family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern Pakistan.

The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border city of Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in jihadist propaganda because of the youth of the executioner.

Captions mention Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban's current top commander in southern Afghanistan, although he does not appear in the video. The soundtrack features songs praising Taliban supreme leader Mullah Omar and "Sheikh Osama" — an apparent reference to Osama bin Laden, who is suspected of hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

"He is an American spy. Those who do this kind of thing will get this kind of fate," says his baby-faced executioner, who is not identified.

A continuous 2 1/2-minute shot then shows the victim lying on his side on a patch of rubble-strewn ground. A man holds Nabi by his beard while the boy, wearing a camouflage military jacket and oversized white sneakers, cuts into the throat. Other men and boys call out "Allahu akbar!" — "God is great!" — as blood spurts from the wound.

The film, overlain with jihadi songs, then shows the boy hacking and slashing at the man's neck until the head is severed.

A Pashto-language voiceover in the video identifies Nabi and his home village of Kili Faqiran in Baluchistan province, which lies about two hours' drive from the Afghan border.

A reporter went to the village, and Nabi's distraught and angry father, Ghulam Sakhi, confirmed his son's identity from a still picture that AP made from the footage. He said neighbors had told him the video is available at the village bazaar, but he had no wish to see it.

Sakhi said his son had been a loyal Taliban member who fought in Afghanistan and sheltered the hard-line Afghan group's leaders in the family's mud-walled compound.

He blames the Taliban and wants to avenge his son's death.

"The Taliban are not mujahedeen. They are not fighting for the cause of Islam," the 70-year-old said. "If I got my hands on them I would kill them and even tear their flesh with my own teeth."

Qari Yousaf Ahmadi, who claims to speak for the Taliban, told AP he had no information about Nabi or the video. None of the group's commanders he contacted could confirm the execution, he said.

The method of Nabi's death was not unusual for Pakistan's lawless tribal regions. Suspected informers are regularly found beheaded and dumped along the side of the road in the lawless, mountainous regions along the Afghan-Pakistani border where Al Qaeda and Taliban militants find sanctuary.

But such Al Qaeda-style killings are rarely featured in the Taliban's increasingly frequent propaganda videos. The use of a child to conduct the beheading stands out even among those filmed by militants in Iraq.

"This is outright barbarism," Iqbal Haider, secretary-general of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, said after viewing the video. "Whosoever has committed this, whether they are Taliban or anybody else or any Afghan or Al Qaeda or anybody, they are enemy No. 1 of the Muslims."

The video accuses Nabi of responsibility for a U.S. airstrike that killed Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Osmani, who was regarded as one of the top three associates of Omar, the Taliban supreme leader. He was hit while traveling by car in Afghanistan's Helmand province Dec. 19.

Osmani was the highest-ranking Taliban leader to die since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan that ousted the hard-line regime in late 2001 for refusing to hand over bin Laden following the Sept. 11 terror attack on the United States.

The U.S. military said at the time that Osmani's death was a serious blow to militant operations, and NATO commanders said this week that a feared spring offensive had yet to materialize.

Sakhi, a retired mosque preacher with a long gray beard, spoke unashamedly of his son's Taliban affiliation and wept twice during an interview in his simple home at the foot of a mountain valley in Baluchistan province.

He said Nabi fought against the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance that helped U.S. forces to victory in Afghanistan.

After returning to Pakistan, Nabi ran a religious school in the Baluchistan capital of Quetta and had regularly sheltered both Osmani and Dadullah at the family compound, the father said.

He said Nabi also bought weapons for Taliban fighters and organized medical treatment for those injured during fighting in Afghanistan.

Some days after Osmani's death, Nabi went to Peshawar and then to Wana, a tribal town considered a militant stronghold, to collect money from Taliban officials to buy guns and food for militants in Afghanistan, Sakhi said.

He said his son called at the end of January to reveal that a tribal council had sentenced him to death on charges of tipping off U.S. forces about Osmani's movements, despite his denials.

His son passed the phone to Dadullah, but the militant leader ignored his pleas for clemency, Sakhi said.

"I talked to him and said you visited us and my son was a close friend so why are you going to hang him? He just said, 'How are you?', and switched off the phone," Sakhi said.

"They are the enemies of Islam," he said of the Taliban. "They are behaving like savages."

Sam Zarifi, Asia research director for Human Rights Watch, said the use of a child to commit such an act constituted a war crime and was a "new low" in the conflict in Afghanistan.

He noted the Taliban had teenage combatants but they were not recruited on a large scale because of the availability of adult fighters. He said he had seen children in the background of some jihadist videos but none in which they were directly involved in violence.

"I don't know why they would do this," Zarifi said. "The Taliban have to some extent tried to play to the public in Afghanistan and have not engaged in the complete sowing of mayhem that we have seen in Iraq. But this kind of act is really egregious. It's off the charts."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267654,00.html

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 02:40 PM
By ABDUL SATTAR

KILI FAQIRAN, Pakistan Apr 21, 2007 (AP)— The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. Then he hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists it in triumph by the hair.

A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam Nabi, a Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who was killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan.

An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting his family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern Pakistan.

The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border city of Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in jihadist propaganda because of the youth of the executioner.

Captions mention Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban's current top commander in southern Afghanistan, although he does not appear in the video. The soundtrack features songs praising Taliban supreme leader Mullah Omar and "Sheikh Osama" an apparent reference to Osama bin Laden, who is suspected of hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

The footage shows Nabi making what is described as a confession, being blindfolded with a checkered scarf.

"He is an American spy. Those who do this kind of thing will get this kind of fate," says his baby-faced executioner, who is not identified.

A continuous 2 1/2-minute shot then shows the victim lying on his side on a patch of rubble-strewn ground. A man holds Nabi by his beard while the boy, wearing a camouflage military jacket and oversized white sneakers, cuts into the throat. Other men and boys call out "Allahu akbar!" "God is great!" as blood spurts from the wound.

The film, overlain with jihadi songs, then shows the boy hacking and slashing at the man's neck until the head is severed.

A Pashto-language voiceover in the video identifies Nabi and his home village of Kili Faqiran in Baluchistan province, which lies about two hours' drive from the Afghan border.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3061367&page=1

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 02:43 PM
This is what you're dealing with in the middle east. Even the CHILDREN are COLD BLOODED KILLERS!!! So how long do you think the war could go on in Iraq? When there's a WHOLE NEW GENERATION of COLD BLOODED KILLERS just WAITING to take the place of others killed before them.

There's only one way out of this war on terrorism, and that's to KILL THEM ALL. We can NOT just continue to play patty cake with these DEVILS. We need to conduct this war like it's a WAR, AND STOP FUCKING AROUND, or do like the damn liberals say, AND GET THE FUCK OTTA THERE!

SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!

manu1959
04-21-2007, 04:00 PM
This is what you're dealing with in the middle east. Even the CHILDREN are COLD BLOODED KILLERS!!! So how long do you think the war could go on in Iraq? When there's a WHOLE NEW GENERATION of COLD BLOODED KILLERS just WAITING to take the place of others killed before them.

There's only one way out of this war on terrorism, and that's to KILL THEM ALL. We can NOT just continue to play patty cake with these DEVILS. We need to conduct this war like it's a WAR, AND STOP FUCKING AROUND, or do like the damn liberals say, AND GET THE FUCK OTTA THERE!

SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!

there are very few that would have the stomache for this....and they knew that before they started this war ..... they have beaten europe and russia .... america will quit as well .... this will embolden them ... then the real war will start ...

Nuc
04-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Geez those Taliban are even more abusive to their children than Alec Baldwin.

Kathianne
04-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Geez those Taliban are even more abusive to their children than Alec Baldwin.

by a bit. My fav is the Palestinians putting the children left behind by suicide bombing mamas on television, during children's programming. The kids explain how at first they wanted their mama, but now realize that she set the example for them to do the same.

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 04:25 PM
there are very few that would have the stomache for this....and they knew that before they started this war ..... they have beaten europe and russia .... america will quit as well .... this will embolden them ... then the real war will start ...

If this new video doesn't spark a world wide outrage, manu, I'm afraid you're right.

I'm ready. I'd shoot a kid that would do something like that just as fast I'd shoot any other human. They've been brain washed to the point of being an animal.

manu1959
04-21-2007, 04:34 PM
If this new video doesn't spark a world wide outrage, manu, I'm afraid you're right.

I'm ready. I'd shoot a kid that would do something like that just as fast I'd shoot any other human. They've been brain washed to the point of being an animal.

it won't .... he was just cutting the head off some paki .... they have been killing each other for thousands of years ....

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 07:34 PM
it won't .... he was just cutting the head off some paki .... they have been killing each other for thousands of years ....

Yes... but it was a little BOY!

Mr. P
04-21-2007, 07:44 PM
IMO, we need to make a few spots in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Pakistan glass.

You go to war to win, not pick yer nose an scratch yer ass!

Nuc
04-21-2007, 07:52 PM
Yes... but it was a little BOY!

This is very very low. Maybe the lowest. But the Tamil Tigers are doing similar things in Sri Lanka, at least in terms of having child soldiers. Between these kinds of things and the trade in pedophilia the sorrow and pain of the future generation is assured. Children need a lot more protection than they're obviously getting and the sick part is it's happening in both the third world and the developed world. Nobody is safe. Rich or poor, male or female, white or dark, the kids are at risk.

Mr. P
04-21-2007, 08:00 PM
Not trying to go off topic, but what I find interesting is that we haven't seen this video on the MSMedia, but we have seen the video of the VT shooter. Which are we at war with?

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 08:01 PM
IMO, we need to make a few spots in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Pakistan glass.

You go to war to win, not pick yer nose an scratch yer ass!

You bet yer ass! Start in those mountains of Paki where OSL is supposed to be. Make it so damn radioactive that not even a fucking cockroach could live there.

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 08:04 PM
Not trying to go off topic, but what I find interesting is that we haven't seen this video on the MSMedia, but we have seen the video of the VT shooter. Which are we at war with?

I've seen it a couple times on Fox already, up to where the kid starts down to start SAWING with knife. You probably won't hear shit about it on the MSM, abc, nbc, cbs, you know, the drive by media. If they show it, it just might justify our fighting these cold blooded killers, and they can't have that. All they know to support is "surrender".

Fox video on story... http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?042107/042107_week_chilling&Weekend_Live&Chilling%20Images&acc&World&-1&News&112&&&new

Abbey Marie
04-21-2007, 08:34 PM
If you arrived in America from another planet, you would think that we believe Imus' remarks are more troubling to us, than this sort of violence.

And further, as seen in another thread here, it appears that Husssein Obama feels the VT shooting and Imus' words are on a par.

gabosaurus
04-21-2007, 09:56 PM
First of all, has this video been independently verified?
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?

Lastly, this garbage is only still happening because we are still occupying Iraq. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Has Cheney seen this video yet? I bet he got a huge chubby out of it.

gabosaurus
04-21-2007, 10:19 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=46e_1177179030&p=1

stephanie
04-21-2007, 10:31 PM
First of all, has this video been independently verified?
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?

Lastly, this garbage is only still happening because we are still occupying Iraq. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Has Cheney seen this video yet? I bet he got a huge chubby out of it.

Is there ANYTHING in the world that happens.....not the fault of President Bush??? good grief...

What did Jimmy Carter do..for Iran to take our civilians hostage back in 1979??

And what did Clinton do to offend the terrorist when they attacked the world trade center??
And what did Clinton do to offend the terrorist to attack the US Cole.???

What did President Bush do to offend the terrorist they flew airplanes in the World Trade Centers???

You are so filled with BDS, you don't see or speak rationally..:poke:

You asked if Cheney watched the video.......DID YOU?? Did you watch the video of Nick Berg or Danial Pearle being murdered the way this man did in this video?? I have the links to those if you would like to watch them??

Oh, and I wonder if Carter and Clinton got a chubby when they had to watch the terrorist attack us........???? How does that sound to you???


please grow up...sheesh

Pale Rider
04-21-2007, 11:53 PM
First of all, has this video been independently verified?
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?

Lastly, this garbage is only still happening because we are still occupying Iraq. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Has Cheney seen this video yet? I bet he got a huge chubby out of it.

Un - - FUCKING - - believable.... *shakes head and looks at floor*....

SO TELL ME, YOU EQUATE A LIVE HUMAN BEING HAVING HIS FUCKING HEAD SAWED OFF, WITH SOMEONE MADE TO WEAR THEIR UNDERWEAR ON THEIR HEAD?????!!!!!!

WHERE IN THE ***HELL*** IS YOUR GOD DAMN MIND AT????!!!!

LuvRPgrl
04-22-2007, 01:45 PM
First of all, has this video been independently verified?
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?

Lastly, this garbage is only still happening because we are still occupying Iraq. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Has Cheney seen this video yet? I bet he got a huge chubby out of it.

WHat a fucking hypocrite you are.
Im sure and I know for a fact that tons of pictures that have been doctored have been used by liberals to attack Bush. In fact, even one media outlet has been proven to have doctored some film. And then you call for verification on something that hurts your anti america agenda.
And just by asking such a retarded totally brain dead idiotic question like "how is this differrent than our torture camps" Proves you are an anti american traitor.
Funny, that the libs claim going into Iraq by Bush was a HUGE mistake because this sectarian fighting has been going on for a long time, and then you go and say its only happening now because we are occupying Iraq,,, which is another lie in itself.

I think you could compete for the most number of lies a person could put into a properly constructed English sentence. It would be no competition for you, you are very very good at it, and obviously have had years of experience deciving your self and others.

LuvRPgrl
04-22-2007, 01:49 PM
IMO, we need to make a few spots in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Pakistan glass.

You go to war to win, not pick yer nose an scratch yer ass!

That seems like a good idea, but since the militant extremist terrorists mostly are created in this section of the world, the idea is to transform the area into a place that no longer breeds such extremists. It doesnt necessarily include changing the entire region into democracies, but at least changing the values of musllims and their dictators enough to get them to start approaching the values of modern times.
That would be a permanent solution and it will take generations, but its underway anyways.
At least Bush has the guts to get it going, knowing full well he would be criticized dramatically for it. Clinton was more worried about his legacy and getting blow jobs under the table by fat girls.

gabosaurus
04-22-2007, 09:40 PM
You people crack me up!
Let's see...
What did Carter do?
You might want to check the U.S. role in placing the Shah of Iran in power. A man more ruthless and bloodthirsty than Saddam was. The Iranians finally got rid of him and went to a hard-line Islamic government in response. One of the retributions of the Khomeni government was to seize the U.S. embassy?
What did Clinton do?
Not a whole lot, actually. Clinton seemed pretty oblivious to the growing Islamic threat until late in his second term of office.
What did Bush do?
Besides pretty much ignoring all the threats? Including an August security memo that claimed that terrorists were considering attacks on the United States through hijacked aircraft. Bush was too busy planning an invasion of Iraq to worry about terrorist threads. He either didn't care, or he was inviting it to happen, in order to solidify his power base.

But no, it's all the liberals' faults.

http://www.mabsland.com/Amber/Stoopid.jpg

avatar4321
04-23-2007, 03:44 AM
First of all, has this video been independently verified?
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?

Lastly, this garbage is only still happening because we are still occupying Iraq. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Has Cheney seen this video yet? I bet he got a huge chubby out of it.

The sheer fact that you arent disgusted by such actions and actually compare it to anything we are doing shows how completely out of touch with reality and heartless you are.

avatar4321
04-23-2007, 03:46 AM
Un - - FUCKING - - believable.... *shakes head and looks at floor*....

SO TELL ME, YOU EQUATE A LIVE HUMAN BEING HAVING HIS FUCKING HEAD SAWED OFF, WITH SOMEONE MADE TO WEAR THEIR UNDERWEAR ON THEIR HEAD?????!!!!!!

WHERE IN THE ***HELL*** IS YOUR GOD DAMN MIND AT????!!!!

You have to understand Pale, she sees the President of the United States as a bigger threat than these monsters.

Nuc
04-23-2007, 03:54 AM
You have to understand Pale, she sees the President of the United States as a bigger threat than these monsters.

Hey, I don't like Bush and I heard that he's good with an axe, but he hasn't used it to chop anybody's head off yet! Bush 1, Taliban 0 :cheers2: :poke: :laugh2:

stephanie
04-23-2007, 04:06 AM
Hey, I don't like Bush and I heard that he's good with an axe, but he hasn't used it to chop anybody's head off yet! Bush 1, Taliban 0 :cheers2: :poke: :laugh2:

:slap:

stephanie
04-23-2007, 04:14 AM
But no, it's all the liberals' faults.

http://www.mabsland.com/Amber/Stoopid.jpg

WELL.........OK..
I agree with you...................FOR ONCE.

:thewave:

theHawk
04-23-2007, 07:39 AM
Secondly, how is this more "disturbing" than any of our torture camp videos?


Well for starters, its an execution, not a photo of some kind of humiliation. But even more than that, the Abu "abuse" (note it can't even be qualified as torture) scandal story was broke by the U.S. Army themselves (not independant media) as they were investigating it. As in it was illegal and against U.S. policy and the people responsible would be held accountable. As opposed to Taliban videos where they glorify not just humiliation, but torture and execution.

If you can't see that difference then you are truely a sick individual blinded by your own hatred of your own country.:puke3:

Gaffer
04-23-2007, 11:21 AM
Now you all see why I call her jihadosaurus. She/he/it is nothing but a plant, here to expound on the glories of jihad. She goes well beyond just Bush hatred, she hates America with every fiber of her being. And she's here to encourage others to do the same.

Pale Rider
04-23-2007, 11:30 AM
Now you all see why I call her jihadosaurus. She/he/it is nothing but a plant, here to expound on the glories of jihad. She goes well beyond just Bush hatred, she hates America with every fiber of her being. And she's here to encourage others to do the same.

She does work overtime at defending the enemies of the U.S., and in turn works overtime at finding whatever fault possilbe with America, even if she has to make it up, and to the point of absurdity.

Triator, and terrorist sympathiser. Liberal.

Jihadosaurus it is.

LuvRPgrl
04-23-2007, 05:13 PM
Well for starters, its an execution, not a photo of some kind of humiliation. But even more than that, the Abu "abuse" (note it can't even be qualified as torture) scandal story was broke by the U.S. Army themselves (not independant media) as they were investigating it. As in it was illegal and against U.S. policy and the people responsible would be held accountable. As opposed to Taliban videos where they glorify not just humiliation, but torture and execution.

If you can't see that difference then you are truely a sick individual blinded by your own hatred of your own country.:puke3:

Its just beyond incredible that something like this has to be explained to someone.

Its not because they are stupid.

Lots of evil people in history werent stupid. Hitler wasnt stupid. But he did wind up with values where he placed the value of a german made machine over that of a Jewish persons life.