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Pale Rider
04-17-2007, 11:43 PM
Seung-Hui Cho, 23-Year-Old Shooter, Wrote 'Disturbing' Note and Violent Plays.

By NED POTTER, DAVID SCHOETZ, RICHARD ESPOSITO, PIERRE THOMAS and the staff of ABC News

April 17, 2007 — Seung-Hui Cho, the student who killed 32 people and then himself yesterday, left a long and "disturbing" note in his dorm room at Virginia Tech, say law enforcement sources.

He also wrote at least two violent plays for an English course that worried his professor and several classmates.

Sources described the note, which runs several pages, as beginning in the present tense and then shifting to the past. It contains rhetoric explaining Cho's actions and says, "You caused me to do this," the sources told ABC News.

Sources say Cho, 23, killed two people in a dorm room, returned to his own dorm room where he re-armed and left the note, then went to a classroom building on the other side of campus. There, he killed 30 more people in four classrooms before shooting himself in the head.

Witnesses say he was stone-faced as he opened fire. Law-enforcement sources say he may have had a romantic interest in a young woman who was found dead after the first shootings.


Violent Plays


Lucinda Roy, a co-director of the creative writing program at Virginia Tech, taught Cho in a poetry class in fall of 2005 and later worked with him one-on-one after she became concerned about his behavior and themes in his writings.

Roy spoke outside her home Tuesday afternoon, saying that there was nothing explicit in Cho's writings, but that threats were there under the surface.

Roy told ABC News that Cho seemed "extraordinarily lonely—the loneliest person I have ever met in my life." She said he wore sunglasses indoors, with a cap pulled low over his eyes. He whispered, took 20 seconds to answer questions, and took cellphone pictures of her in class. Roy said she was concerned for her safety when she met with him.

She said she notified authorities about Cho, but said she was told that there would be too many legal hurdles to intervene. She said she asked him to go to counseling, but he never did.

One play attributed to him, called "Richard McBeef," describes a 13-year-old boy who accuses his stepfather of pedophilia, and ends with the boy's death.

In another, called "Mr. Brownstone," three high-school students face an abusive teacher.

"I wanna kill him," says one character.

"I wanna watch him bleed like the way he made us kids bleed," says another.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1

Samantha
04-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Sounds like he was an abused child.

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 12:03 AM
Sounds like he was an abused child.

I get that same impression. Lost, lonely, and abused, probably sexually as a child. All the signs were there and nothing was done.

Samantha
04-18-2007, 12:12 AM
If child abusers/molesters only knew the damage they do to a child's mind. It's the worst crime I can think of, to hurt a child.

A monster was created.

Abbey Marie
04-18-2007, 12:17 AM
Sounds like he was an abused child.

I thought the same thing.

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 12:18 AM
If child abusers/molesters only knew the damage they do to a child's mind. It's the worst crime I can think of, to hurt a child.

A monster was created.

True. If he truely was an abused child, then you could say that the person that molested and possible also beat him as a child is the one ultimatley responsible for all those deaths.

They ought to hunt him/her down and put them to death.

Samantha
04-18-2007, 12:19 AM
I thought the same thing.It's tragic.

Samantha
04-18-2007, 12:20 AM
True. If he truely was an abused child, then you could say that the person that molested and possible also beat him as a child is the one ultimatley responsible for all those deaths.

They ought to hunt him/her down and put them to death.
At least hold him/her accountable for the abuse.

Child abusers/molesters should face life in prison, no parole.

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 12:21 AM
At least hold him/her accountable for the abuse.

Child abusers/molesters should face life in prison, no parole.

I agree, because they're condeming the child to a life of agony, confusion, hate, and soiled mental health.

Sitarro
04-18-2007, 12:44 AM
Seung-Hui Cho, 23-Year-Old Shooter, Wrote 'Disturbing' Note and Violent Plays.

By NED POTTER, DAVID SCHOETZ, RICHARD ESPOSITO, PIERRE THOMAS and the staff of ABC News

Lucinda Roy, a co-director of the creative writing program at Virginia Tech, taught Cho in a poetry class in fall of 2005 and later worked with him one-on-one after she became concerned about his behavior and themes in his writings.

Roy spoke outside her home Tuesday afternoon, saying that there was nothing explicit in Cho's writings, but that threats were there under the surface.

Roy told ABC News that Cho seemed "extraordinarily lonely—the loneliest person I have ever met in my life." She said he wore sunglasses indoors, with a cap pulled low over his eyes. He whispered, took 20 seconds to answer questions, and took cellphone pictures of her in class. Roy said she was concerned for her safety when she met with him.

She said she notified authorities about Cho, but said she was told that there would be too many legal hurdles to intervene. She said she asked him to go to counseling, but he never did.





http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1

Lawyers should be very proud of the work they do, a teacher sees a serious problem and all that is thought about are the lawsuits. A law needs to be drafted to ban them are at least restrict their use. Maybe force them to be kept in a safe and only brought out if really needed. Maybe a lock for their mouths.

Blame lawyers for some of the worst things that are happening to our country........most politicians are lawyers!

loosecannon
04-18-2007, 01:13 AM
Lawyers should be very proud of the work they do, a teacher sees a serious problem and all that is thought about are the lawsuits. A law needs to be drafted to ban them are at least restrict their use. Maybe force them to be kept in a safe and only brought out if really needed. Maybe a lock for their mouths.

Blame lawyers for some of the worst things that are happening to our country........most politicians are lawyers!

As far as we know lawyers didn't fuck this kid in the bung hole.

Child molestation seems likely.

He may have just been nuts.

Lotsa folks are never molested, but still go nuts.

I have not yet heard about a psychological link between child molestation and mass murderers.

avatar4321
04-18-2007, 01:43 AM
True. If he truely was an abused child, then you could say that the person that molested and possible also beat him as a child is the one ultimatley responsible for all those deaths.

They ought to hunt him/her down and put them to death.

I don't buy that argument. I mean don't get me wrong, I think that person should be beat down. But he made his own choices. It's really bugging me lately how people are shift responsibility for this massacre away from him, but regardless of his abuse situation, he was the one who is responsible. No one else.

Roomy
04-18-2007, 01:51 AM
He sounds like a fucking psycho to me.

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 12:01 PM
I have not yet heard about a psychological link between child molestation and mass murderers.

That's not to say there can't be one.

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 12:03 PM
I don't buy that argument. I mean don't get me wrong, I think that person should be beat down. But he made his own choices. It's really bugging me lately how people are shift responsibility for this massacre away from him, but regardless of his abuse situation, he was the one who is responsible. No one else.

Had he had a normal childhood, I might agree with that, but someone screwed this kids head up, and that wasn't his fault. Sure he made choices, but they were no doubt heavily influenced by his past. So the person that screwed up his head is guilty, and so is the kid guilty for what he did. They're both guilty.

typomaniac
04-18-2007, 12:20 PM
He sounds like a fucking psycho to me.Most fucking psychos don't choose to be fucking psychos.

Gunny
04-18-2007, 12:47 PM
Most fucking psychos don't choose to be fucking psychos.

Does that excuse him of his crimes?

Pale Rider
04-18-2007, 01:13 PM
Does that excuse him of his crimes?

Not a chance. Had he not whacked himself, he should have gotten the death sentence. Crazy or not.

Dilloduck
04-18-2007, 01:14 PM
Does that excuse him of his crimes?

Nope---and it won't stop the next one either.

typomaniac
04-18-2007, 01:22 PM
Does that excuse him of his crimes?Obviously not: the Animal Control people remove rabid dogs from the street, too.

If homicidally insane people are beyond medical help, I have no problem with euthanizing them.

Dilloduck
04-18-2007, 01:42 PM
Obviously not: the Animal Control people remove rabid dogs from the street, too.

If homicidally insane people are beyond medical help, I have no problem with euthanizing them.

Sorry--they have so many "rights" you can't touch em.